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**Refused**

Wow, Total Cards just emailed me asking for another £60 for Cursed City due to a "pricing error." Absolutely disgusting behaviour, and I'm sorry I linked to them now.

**warl0rdb0b**

Just to update people regarding Total Cards orders, they've just emailed me saying that they had it priced incorrectly, and now want an additional £61 to dispatch it. I'd suggest any who ordered there to get it refunded unless you're happy to pay over the odds....

**Domican**

Wow, just got the email. I wont be paying anymore than that, they werent exactly selling it much cheaper than other companies.

Whats the best response here folks

**MobileSuitRandom**

TheGoodGerman wrote:
There is a German online store with a few (currently 12) copies of the German-language version in stock, and they even sell at a decent 15% discount: https://www.hobbygames.de/warhammer/sonstige/3685/warhammer-quest-die-verfluchte-stadt-deutsch-games-workshop

Thanks for this, got my order confirmed, at least ... 8 copies left at the moment.

**warl0rdb0b**

Domican wrote:
Wow, just got the email. I wont be paying anymore than that, they weren't exactly selling it much cheaper than other companies.

Whats the best response here folks

Refund, they got back to me pretty quickly, 24-48 hours is what you get back. Don't be afraid to be honest with their blatant swindling, I sure wasn't....

**Domican**

Im fething giving it to them plainly here, nothing to lose at this point. Will be leaving reviews everywhere I can too!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Refused wrote:
Wow, Total Cards just emailed me asking for another £60 for Cursed City due to a "pricing error." Absolutely disgusting behaviour, and I'm sorry I linked to them now.

Jeebus!

Scamela Voorhees!

Genuinely honestly? Rat on them to GW. Likely nowt will be done, but GW might decide to strip their supply in future. They certainly do it with companies *cough troll trader cough* who buy wholesale, then split.

**Cyel**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK7ES7_Lxqg

**warl0rdb0b**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Refused wrote:
Wow, Total Cards just emailed me asking for another £60 for Cursed City due to a "pricing error." Absolutely disgusting behaviour, and I'm sorry I linked to them now.

Jeebus!

Scamela Voorhees!

Genuinely honestly? Rat on them to GW. Likely nowt will be done, but GW might decide to strip their supply in future. They certainly do it with companies *cough troll trader cough* who buy wholesale, then split.

Yeah this is genuine, same email for me. I've left them a scathing email, got my refund, nothing will change but I will never be ordering from them again thats for sure.

**Crimson**

Refused wrote:
Wow, Total Cards just emailed me asking for another £60 for Cursed City due to a "pricing error." Absolutely disgusting behaviour, and I'm sorry I linked to them now.

In many countries the vendor is legally obliged to sell the product at the advertised price, even if there had been an error in the advertisement. Increasing the price after receiving the order and the original payment seems highly legally dubious to me... Might be worth checking the relevant laws of the appropriate country.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

There’s also something niggling away at me that they’re not actually allowed to do that.

It’s not exactly my realm of expertise, but if they’ve advertised Price X, accepted payment equal to Price X, then the contract is made.

Now, that’s not necessarily true in shops. If I pick up a bottle of Diet Coke because £1.50 on special, but scans at £2.05, they have wiggle room because price updates take time.

I really don’t think they could charge the £1.50, accept the £1.50, then demand I pay 55p more.

I’ll do some research as soon as I’m clocked off at work!

**Pacific**

SamusDrake wrote:
A review by Drive Thru Games...

Does anyone know who actually designed the game?

I'm not sure it was intended but this has now made me want to buy Blackstone Fortress !

**BertBert**

Yeah, you can probably insist on the price you paid originally.

**Refused**

If they'd bumped it up to £125 to match the GW retail price, then I probably would've caved and moved on. Instead I'm never going to use them again, and ensure I recommend no one else does either. Hope the quick cash grab is worth it for them.

**warl0rdb0b**

Technically, in the UK, we still use the 'treat to trade' obligation regarding pricing, its a very dubious grey area under the Sale of Goods act.

Edit- They are genuinely trying to play this as human error, even after selling all of their stock and sending out the shipping invoices. The gall of them is unbelievable.

**Domican**

I'm certainly glad that I didn't cancel my pre order with OnTableTop this morning, I was waiting until I could see Total Cards had shipped my order. Scammers,no different than scalpers.

Still no response from my harsh email to them

**Ian Sturrock**

Total Weasels.

I note there's no way to unsub from the Total Cards newsletter either... I had to mark it as spam.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

OK doke. Some non-committal stuff from the Citizen’s Advice Bureau.

Your legal rights depend on something fairly tricky in the law: whether or not you have a ‘contract’.

Depending on the company’s terms and conditions, you’ll have legal rights (and a contract) either:

once you’ve paid for the item
once they’ve sent it to you
You’ll need to find the company’s terms and conditions to find out where you stand. Contact the Citizens Advice consumer helpline if you need help. It may be too tricky to work out yourself.

If you have a contract, the company can’t usually cancel your order, even if they realise they’ve sold you something at the wrong price. They’ll only be able to cancel it if it was a genuine and honest mistake on their part that you should’ve noticed.

If you don’t have a contract and someone realises they’ve told you the wrong price, they can cancel your order.

**lord_blackfang**

They're an MTG shop, for them it's completely normal to charge over RRP for product when demand is larger than supply.

Rare to see one demand extra payment for outstanding orders when they jack up the price tho. It's a major red flag on a marget as volatile as MTG.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

And Totalcard’s T&C’s

https://www.totalcards.net/terms-and-conditions

I think the relevant section is here.

Neither we nor any third parties provide any warranty or guarantee as to the accuracy, timeliness, performance, completeness or suitability of the information and materials found or offered on this website for any particular purpose. You acknowledge that such information and materials may contain inaccuracies or errors and we expressly exclude liability for any such inaccuracies or errors to the fullest extent permitted by law. This also extends our right to refuse the right to refuse service after purchase on any order that falls under any of the above mentioned conditions.

Seems they have covered such shenanigans. The dickheads.

**lord_blackfang**

T&C have no bearing on anything. You can't sign away your consumer rights. *gasp* Or can you now that you're no longer in the EU?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

That’s based on EU distance selling laws.

It’s really going to boil down to at what point the contract is agreed.

Common Sense would suggest “when they’ve offered a price, I’ve accepted the price, and they’ve accepted the payment”. But Common Sense doesn’t necessarily apply to Law.

Another look at their T&Cs, and maybe they can’t...

For any orders placed that contain any pre-order items, we will hold this order and set the order status to "processing" until everything is ready to ship. When everything is ready to dispatch you will then receive an email informing you that your order is on it's way, thus changing your order status to "complete".
When placing an order with us, we will always secure the funds at the checkout.
Orders containing single cards are subject to our Single Cards Return Policy. We use a warranty seal on orders containing single cards. If these seal is broken we cannot accept returns for single cards.

Emphasis mine. Seems that would settle the contract. They say “you want this, you pay me X”. You agree, and pay X. Crucially, they accept X. So maybe they can’t turn round at that point and say “Oh I’m sorry, did we say X, we meant Y. Pay is the difference”

We’re gonna need a qualified person up in here!

**Gallahad**

SamusDrake wrote:
A review by Drive Thru Games...

That review from a big fan of AOS is pretty damning.

Looks like everybody who tried to get a copy and couldn't dodged a bullet.

That level of tedium from a $200 game is pretty embarrassing for GW imo.

**Billicus**

That is absolutely disgusting behaviour. Advertising goods at one price and then adding a hidden cost on later is something that should be reported to Trading Standards.

**Original Timmy**

lord_blackfang wrote:T&C have no bearing on anything. You can't sign away your consumer rights. *gasp* Or can you now that you're no longer in the EU?

Billicus wrote:That is absolutely disgusting behaviour. Advertising goods at one price and then adding a hidden cost on later is something that should be reported to Trading Standards.

This ^^^^^

Its bang out of order, greedy

**Daedalus81**

Gallahad wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A review by Drive Thru Games...

That review from a big fan of AOS is pretty damning.

Looks like everybody who tried to get a copy and couldn't dodged a bullet.

That level of tedium from a $200 game is pretty embarrassing for GW imo.

Ash's review seems opposite of this guy on similar points. Who is right? Did this guy miss something or is Ash just overly enthusiastic?

**Domican**

Gallahad wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A review by Drive Thru Games...

That review from a big fan of AOS is pretty damning.

Looks like everybody who tried to get a copy and couldn't dodged a bullet.

That level of tedium from a $200 game is pretty embarrassing for GW imo.

You reckon? Sounds like he's awful hungup on BSF and didn't play all that much of Cursed City. Going from what Ash has shown us I think I'm on to a winner.

**H.B.M.C.**

I've watched all of Ash's videos so far (except the one that just went up) and so far it seems like lots of fun.

A bit on the easy side when it comes to combat and killing enemies (but the enemies hit like a truck, so that kinda makes up for it), and certainly the 3 missions to level up makes it more grindy than it needs to be, but otherwise I like the look of it.

**Commodus Leitdorf**

I mean from what I've seen so far it does seem too easy. But that can be said of all the recent WHQ games. None of them were particularly challenging (BSF a bit at the beginning, but once you level you can steamroll through it)

How much of that is just because its one person controlling all the heros? Its easy to game when it's one person controlling everyone as opposed to 4 different people moving their model around independently.

**lord_blackfang**

I think the man makes some poor extrapolations from reading the rules once and maybe playing one mission.

For example saying it's tedious to wait for enemies assumes you'll camp one corner and wait 5 turns for them to walk to you, and this completely disregards the nightfall mechanic, never mind that two mission types have scrolling dungeons where you have to outrun an instant death effect.