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So I signed up yesterday, but I can’t see how to get the £10 voucher (and it’s not automatically showing up in my “My Warhammer” account)?

I think it's a bit crazy to think the subscription would unlock all codex's, considering the code format they are following and the small cost of this subscription. But I see the confusion.

From the looks of their battle reports so far:

I think the pump out websites (like Miniwargaming & Guerrilla Minatare Gaming, etc) that do a Battle report every day will do great. Maybe not as good production, but they are not about that. Like when I get home from work, I want to watch a fun report when go to sleep every night...awesome, put on MWG or GMG. The banter and synergy on these reports is way higher anyway.

The more refined reports (as in post pre-duction) or once a week posters, will still do good as well, Like Tabletop tactics, SS82, Tabletop titans, Mountain Miniatures etc cause on the weekend when painting, I want to watch something as well. The banter and synergy on these reports is high as well.

I think these Warhammer TV Battle reports will fill the later, like when I have watched all I like and painting and need something in the background.

I can't find the lore channel that is supposedly there to compare it or even if compares to Luetin09. Except a lore PDF on Ghazghkull???? No video or anything

I don’t see WHTV doing any harm to other Battle Report video creators.

Rather they might whet the whistle of the viewer to go and seek more such content..

So how much stuff is in the archive at the moment?

Are we talking like 10 old issues of White Dwarf or 100?

 Jadenim wrote:
So I signed up yesterday, but I can’t see how to get the £10 voucher (and it’s not automatically showing up in my “My Warhammer” account)?

They will email it to you on October 1st so long as you are still subscribed at that time.

deano2099 wrote:
So how much stuff is in the archive at the moment?

Are we talking like 10 old issues of White Dwarf or 100?

Idk seems to be 10 issues can see, and after that is a lot of Warhammer visions. So I would say 10.

Has all the Gathering Storm and Sanctus reach there as well.

Ye to poster before, I also cant make anything full screen......

 Jadenim wrote:
So I signed up yesterday, but I can’t see how to get the £10 voucher (and it’s not automatically showing up in my “My Warhammer” account)?

It'll be sent to you at the start of October (assuming you renewed your subscription in September).

 Jadenim wrote:
So I signed up yesterday, but I can’t see how to get the £10 voucher (and it’s not automatically showing up in my “My Warhammer” account)?

October. Needs to be subscriber for 1st october. Then it's given. So don't let it lapse in between(in practice you need to be subscriber for 2 months)


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I don’t see WHTV doing any harm to other Battle Report video creators.

Rather they might whet the whistle of the viewer to go and seek more such content..

Because evil gw is expected to close down those.

GW can't close down BatReps, IP rights just don't even begin to spread that far.

I think he was being facetious.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
GW can't close down BatReps, IP rights just don't even begin to spread that far.

IP rights have nothing to do with DMCA Strikes and Youtube removing Video

True, but GW hasn't demonstrated themselves subverting the law to achieve their means anyway.
Them removing what animations they did was very above board.
I don't think we need that level of tinfoil hattery.

I’ve started a thread for future content wishlisting.

If you’d like to chip in, you can find it here.

deano2099 wrote:
So how much stuff is in the archive at the moment?

Are we talking like 10 old issues of White Dwarf or 100?

30 Issues of Visions, White Dwarf for 2020 (10 issues), 3 Gathering Storm books, 2 Sanctus Reach books, and ~6 books for AoS/Underworlds.

I was looking forwards to having access to some vintage codexes, but for now the catalogue is not great.

hypnoticeris wrote:
I was looking forwards to having access to some vintage codexes, but for now the catalogue is not great.

I'm guessing the modern stuff is easy to do because it has been designed to be released digitally, so they can basically just stick it on the system. Older stuff is likely to need conversion and updating, or even manual scanning I guess, so maybe not worth the effort from GWs point of view, though I would like to see it appear!

Tavis75 wrote:

hypnoticeris wrote:
I was looking forwards to having access to some vintage codexes, but for now the catalogue is not great.

I'm guessing the modern stuff is easy to do because it has been designed to be released digitally, so they can basically just stick it on the system. Older stuff is likely to need conversion and updating, or even manual scanning I guess, so maybe not worth the effort from GWs point of view, though I would like to see it appear!

Old-school issues of White Dwarf would be awesome. Would be nice to look back at the time when it still felt like wargaming with your buddies on the local table and not the heavily corporate stuff we see these days.

It seems like the 'Vault' is them just chucking up those PDFs they have lying around so they can list another benefit.
Older issues are probably saved in either another format they don't care to convert, or have been lost/deleted or never saved in the first place.

 kodos wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
GW can't close down BatReps, IP rights just don't even begin to spread that far.

IP rights have nothing to do with DMCA Strikes and Youtube removing Video

Yes they do, and it's ludicrous hyperbole to suggest otherwise.

You can go and DMCA any YT video right now, and it's on the video owner to fight it. They probably will win, but there is nothing stopping people from abusing the system.

GW could 100% dmca anything with Warhammer in it's name, and there's a good chance a number of them would either back down out of fear of legal action, or YT would not agree with them and keep up the claim. How many people would go to court over it if YT deleted their channel over the claims?

 The Phazer wrote:

 kodos wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
GW can't close down BatReps, IP rights just don't even begin to spread that far.

IP rights have nothing to do with DMCA Strikes and Youtube removing Video

Yes they do, and it's ludicrous hyperbole to suggest otherwise.

I guess you had never anything to do with those

a DMCA strike works the other way around, you are taken down and must proof that your content is not infringing anybodies copyright and/or edit your videos to remove the parts that are mentioned as breaking it
those asking for the take down, don't need to proof anything or even need to be those holding the IP

simple example, a guy making LEGO reviews refered to a non LEGO product as "Lego bricks" instead of "interlocking plastic bricks", his videos were taken down by YT after DMCA from LEGO

So GW can very easily take on every battle report (if they wanted to) who is not very clear on terms/wording and/or using non GW stuff together with GW models without being very clear which is which

 kodos wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

 kodos wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
GW can't close down BatReps, IP rights just don't even begin to spread that far.

IP rights have nothing to do with DMCA Strikes and Youtube removing Video

Yes they do, and it's ludicrous hyperbole to suggest otherwise.

I guess you had never anything to do with those

a DMCA strike works the other way around, you are taken down and must proof that your content is not infringing anybodies copyright and/or edit your videos to remove the parts that are mentioned as breaking it
those asking for the take down, don't need to proof anything or even need to be those holding the IP

simple example, a guy making LEGO reviews refered to a non LEGO product as "Lego bricks" instead of "interlocking plastic bricks", his videos were taken down by YT after DMCA from LEGO

So GW can very easily take on every battle report (if they wanted to) who is not very clear on terms/wording and/or using non GW stuff together with GW models without being very clear which is which

The Lego case isn’t even about Lego being in a continuous fight to protect its Trade Mark. The patent on Lego has expired, so anyone can make Lego compatible bricks, but can’t call them Lego because that’s a registered trademark. The danger for Lego though, is that “Lego” becomes the common term for little plastic bricks and their trademark becomes undefendable as a result. GW isn’t in that situation.

A battle report is little more than somebody filming themselves using a product they bought for its intended use. The idea that IP rights prevents them from doing that is nonsense. If GW wanted to hurt YouTube content, the first thing they could legitimately do is stop sending content creators free copies of their games and books. Yet, every major content creator seems to have been sent a free copy of Kill Team in the last couple of weeks.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
The Lego case isn’t even about Lego being in a continuous fight to protect its Trade Mark. The patent on Lego has expired, so anyone can make Lego compatible bricks, but can’t call them Lego because that’s a registered trademark. The danger for Lego though, is that “Lego” becomes the common term for little plastic bricks and their trademark becomes undefendable as a result. GW isn’t in that situation.

...why is that not the case with Kleenex, or Post-it, then? Because those are still trademarks, enforced and enforceable, and also the common term for, respectively, paper tissues and adhesive notes.

Or, hell, Google. As far as I know, all these are still trademarks:

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-taser-xerox-brand-names-generic-words-2018-5#bubble-wrap-1

I mean, I understand Lego (or GW, or whatever) would need to litigate if some other company were to use Lego in the name, but a random YT out of the internet? There's no case there to litigate. Like, at all.

Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

 Gert wrote:
Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

Fan animations were the gateway for another kind of content on YouTube, and we know what happened there.

 phandaal wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

Fan animations were the gateway for another kind of content on YouTube, and we know what happened there.

Yeah, I guess it's more looking for patterns... IIRC, the takedown notices for animations were for the ones that were monetized, yes? How many of those batrep channels are also monetized?

 Gert wrote:
Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

I think they would only ever try and take one down if the YT person was really causing some damage to them by using excessively foul terminology.....Though Majorkill seems to have survived their wrath so far. GW has tried to appeal to the younger crowd and I think would protect that piece of their image a little harder.

 Albertorius wrote:

 phandaal wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

Fan animations were the gateway for another kind of content on YouTube, and we know what happened there.

Yeah, I guess it's more looking for patterns... IIRC, the takedown notices for animations were for the ones that were monetized, yes? How many of those batrep channels are also monetized?

Not sure which have commercials - using YouTube premium or whatever it's called so they don't show up for me.

All the channels have ways to give them money though.

Given that GW's fan animation shutdown seems to have been intended to funnel people into Warhammer+ animations, it's not unreasonable that GW would look at the same method to attempt to move people into their other types of Warhammer+ content.

As for whether they're within their rights to do so - the unfortunate truth is that YouTube has a "shoot first, question later" approach to channel takedowns.

Imagine still using Chrome.

tneva82 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And screenshots won't come easily it looks like. App has anti screenshot feature

But…..one can take a pic of one’s screen on one’s phone.

Voila! But please note Louise didn’t paint the head like that. It’s a mock up she created to explain the colour theory thing of faces.

Sure i could take photo of screen with 2nd phone. But at least for my phone they block it. Just black square as result.

Take a photo with your phone FROM you computer...

 Albertorius wrote:

 phandaal wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Anyone suggesting that GW will attempt to take down YT BatRep channels isn't using their brain.
These channels are the first port of call for a lot of YT content for wargaming and GW has done a collaboration of sorts with MWG in the past. YT BatReps aren't going anywhere.

Fan animations were the gateway for another kind of content on YouTube, and we know what happened there.

Yeah, I guess it's more looking for patterns... IIRC, the takedown notices for animations were for the ones that were monetized, yes? How many of those batrep channels are also monetized?

First of all, all of them. The good ones have Patreons and Twitch streams and subscriptions too. Second, you're looking for patterns in corporate policy making, which is silly. GW going after fan animations is just as likely to be a result of a VP who watched a hit piece about Anime's Loli problem the day before a big meeting and assumed all animation would have innapropriate content about underage girls, as it to be about anything more substantial or objective.

People aren't consistent and corporations are even less so.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried upgrading the warhammer app to the warhammer+ app? I just get a spinning wheel. I could just getting it the normal way, but I'd hate to be paying for two separate apps.