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 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

This is good for new players. As we now, new players are mentally deficient and if they had options they might make a mistake.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

This is good for new players. As we now, new players are mentally deficient and if they had options they might make a mistake.

God forbid, they might even buy a third party bit to represent an option!

Follow up question. How many Chaos Lords has GW released in the past 20 years that haven't been armed with a plasma pistol and accursed weapon?

Not counting of course the legion-specific ones that are going to be range-rotated out of availability and into Legends soon.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

Damn ! Didn't even think about that ! Sorry for you and all the Night Lords players.

Damn the more I think about it, it's a really really dumb decision. Does it make Harkon the last Chaos Marine HQ who knows how to fly ?

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

Damn ! Didn't even think about that ! Sorry for you and all the Night Lords players.

Damn the more I think about it, it's a really really dumb decision. Does it make Harkon the last Chaos Marine HQ who knows how to fly ?

The jump packs worn by raptors and warp talons are infused with daemonic machine spirits that are bonded to the souls of their wearers. These spirits power and maintain the jump packs and as a result Chaos Lords cannot use them. Harkon has the last functioning jump pack that hasn't been corrupted thusly. Or something like that.

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

Damn ! Didn't even think about that ! Sorry for you and all the Night Lords players.

Damn the more I think about it, it's a really really dumb decision. Does it make Harkon the last Chaos Marine HQ who knows how to fly ?

Not sure, but this doesn't make sense in context with the other rumours. Remember, one of the rumored Night Lords relics, from the same rumour source, is supposed to be a relic jump pack. Something is getting lost in translation here.

If you have a relic jumppack and supposedly no jumppack option that makes no sense at all.

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

Damn ! Didn't even think about that ! Sorry for you and all the Night Lords players.

Damn the more I think about it, it's a really really dumb decision. Does it make Harkon the last Chaos Marine HQ who knows how to fly ?

The jump packs worn by raptors and warp talons are infused with daemonic machine spirits that are bonded to the souls of their wearers. These spirits power and maintain the jump packs and as a result Chaos Lords cannot use them. Harkon has the last functioning jump pack that hasn't been corrupted thusly. Or something like that.

GW literally still sells a Resin Chaos Lord with Jump Pack.

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you have a relic jumppack and supposedly no jumppack option that makes no sense at all.

Exactly. Something has gotten lost in translation in the game of "Telephone" between Clockworkchris and their source.

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
At this point I just hope we can have fun with it !

Your username couldn't be more perfect.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
GW literally still sells a Resin Chaos Lord with Jump Pack.

Yeah but for how much longer?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 clockworkchris9 wrote:
The is no longer a way to give characters a jump pack, only the daemon prince can still be equipped with wings.

WHAT?

A Legion trait, Raptors and Warp Talons can't have Icons, and now, Chaos Lords and Sorcerers can't have jump packs? What is this? The Night Lords edition?

Damn ! Didn't even think about that ! Sorry for you and all the Night Lords players.

Damn the more I think about it, it's a really really dumb decision. Does it make Harkon the last Chaos Marine HQ who knows how to fly ?

The jump packs worn by raptors and warp talons are infused with daemonic machine spirits that are bonded to the souls of their wearers. These spirits power and maintain the jump packs and as a result Chaos Lords cannot use them. Harkon has the last functioning jump pack that hasn't been corrupted thusly. Or something like that.

GW literally still sells a Resin Chaos Lord with Jump Pack.

There's nothing requiring them to continue though. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the resin chaos lord models ended up range-rotated in the near future. If they're planning on doing it in conjunction with this codex release then you might see their rules removed from the codex and sent to Legends at the same time.

Necron destroyer lord and autarch on bike both didn’t mysteriously vanish

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

This is good for new players. As we now, new players are mentally deficient and if they had options they might make a mistake.

God forbid, they might even buy a third party bit to represent an option!

3rd party bits are a WAAC option/too hard/increase complexity/etc.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Necron destroyer lord and autarch on bike both didn’t mysteriously vanish

Because if they're known for anything, GW is soooo known for being consistent in the way they handle things.

Literally all of my powered armor CSM lords have jump packs, this is mind numbing slowed. This company is a fething joke, I legit wouldn't be surprised if the next edition says you arent allowed to use anything but "official" paint schemes now too.

I got into this hobby because I loved conversions and creating my own guys, at this point I might as well stop playing entirely and just convert models for fun.

feth Games Workshop and feth anyone who supports this stupid ass company

CSM: Dude, where's my jump pack? edition codex.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

This is good for new players. As we now, new players are mentally deficient and if they had options they might make a mistake.

I'm waiting for Kan to come into this thread and defend the decision like he did with the Autarchs LOL

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

This is good for new players. As we now, new players are mentally deficient and if they had options they might make a mistake.

I'm waiting for Kan to come into this thread and defend the decision like he did with the Autarchs LOL

Patience. We're still in the "these are just rumors, we have to wait and see" stage of the Apologist Cycle. We have to start getting warcom articles and leaked scans before we get to the "this is actually a good thing and here's why" stage.

So the Night Lords relic is for the DP with wings only.

So just to clarify the Night Lords, you know the legion who is known for using jumppacks and not using demons as much as other legions cannot equip lords with jump packs and have a relic made for demon princes only......

I hate this company so much

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Is there a plastic power armored Chaos Lord currently available that isn't armed with a thunder hammer and plasma pistol?

Nope, unless you count the Termie one.

Uh-oh spaghettios.

You didn't really think they'd let us keep the that Smash Lord did you. We are the NPC faction after all. I'm not surprised about the jump pack loss. They never gave any of the other characters access to them, and the did legends all our bike characters. It's probably save to assume were gonna loose anything without direct model representation.

 warboss wrote:
CSM: Dude, where's my jump pack? edition codex.

8th and 9th are just "Dude, where's my options?"

2x210 wrote:
Literally all of my powered armor CSM lords have jump packs, this is mind numbing slowed. This company is a fething joke, I legit wouldn't be surprised if the next edition says you arent allowed to use anything but "official" paint schemes now too.

I got into this hobby because I loved conversions and creating my own guys, at this point I might as well stop playing entirely and just convert models for fun.

feth Games Workshop and feth anyone who supports this stupid ass company

I mean you could just use them as lords on foot? I get it sucks, but if you enjoy playing, keep playing.

Dudeface wrote:

2x210 wrote:
Literally all of my powered armor CSM lords have jump packs, this is mind numbing slowed. This company is a fething joke, I legit wouldn't be surprised if the next edition says you arent allowed to use anything but "official" paint schemes now too.

I got into this hobby because I loved conversions and creating my own guys, at this point I might as well stop playing entirely and just convert models for fun.

feth Games Workshop and feth anyone who supports this stupid ass company

I mean you could just use them as lords on foot? I get it sucks, but if you enjoy playing, keep playing.

This sort of thing has a tendency to curtail enjoyment.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
CSM: Dude, where's my jump pack? edition codex.

8th and 9th are just "Dude, where's my options?"

It's been 'Dude, where are my options?' since 4th ed tbh.

2x210 wrote:
So the Night Lords relic is for the DP with wings only.

So just to clarify the Night Lords, you know the legion who is known for using jumppacks and not using demons as much as other legions cannot equip lords with jump packs and have a relic made for demon princes only......

I hate this company so much

Well, they've been ignoring the fluff for Night Lords for the past 14 years, while still putting it in the fluff section of every codex, so not surprising.

But.....the "source" is now saying that their version of the playtest rules is the earliest version. So all of this has to be taken with extra now. There's no telling how much of this all could have changed since then.

Do people Just generally not understand the grain of salt reference? Salt is the indicator of value in the reference. If you take it with plenty of salt, it would mean to take what’s said with more weight, not less. That’s why you take something spurious with” a grain of salt.” It’s fatiguing reading this simple truism get butchered on these boards again and again.

Dudeface wrote:

2x210 wrote:
Literally all of my powered armor CSM lords have jump packs, this is mind numbing slowed. This company is a fething joke, I legit wouldn't be surprised if the next edition says you arent allowed to use anything but "official" paint schemes now too.

I got into this hobby because I loved conversions and creating my own guys, at this point I might as well stop playing entirely and just convert models for fun.

feth Games Workshop and feth anyone who supports this stupid ass company

I mean you could just use them as lords on foot? I get it sucks, but if you enjoy playing, keep playing.

Thats thing the more I read these leaks the less I want to play. Its like GW actively hates my playstyle and army in general. I'll probably just go back to playing my Blood Angels or Templars since so far none of those guys have been made obsolete by stupid rules.

I legitimately think GW hates certian armies, I know we haven't seen the full leaks yet and this could all be nonsense but compare this to the Tau codex. Its not even in the same league. Hell their big screw you guns can pretty effectively delete my now footslogging lords in one shot and my options to get into close combat are extremely limited. My Night Lords might as well be shelved until next codex and my undivided army will need to be completely reworked to play. Especially since I heavily used both jump pack lords and special weapon chosen squads.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

2x210 wrote:
So the Night Lords relic is for the DP with wings only.

So just to clarify the Night Lords, you know the legion who is known for using jumppacks and not using demons as much as other legions cannot equip lords with jump packs and have a relic made for demon princes only......

I hate this company so much

Well, they've been ignoring the fluff for Night Lords for the past 14 years, while still putting it in the fluff section of every codex, so not surprising.

But.....the "source" is now saying that their version of the playtest rules is the earliest version. So all of this has to be taken with extra now. There's no telling how much of this all could have changed since then.

Bold to assume GW listens to their playtesters that don't exist.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

2x210 wrote:
So the Night Lords relic is for the DP with wings only.

So just to clarify the Night Lords, you know the legion who is known for using jumppacks and not using demons as much as other legions cannot equip lords with jump packs and have a relic made for demon princes only......

I hate this company so much

Well, they've been ignoring the fluff for Night Lords for the past 14 years, while still putting it in the fluff section of every codex, so not surprising.

But.....the "source" is now saying that their version of the playtest rules is the earliest version. So all of this has to be taken with extra now. There's no telling how much of this all could have changed since then.

Bold to assume GW listens to their playtesters that don't exist.

Well, they apparently listened to the ones that said that "Dd6 isn't good" for DE, and "they seem too weak" for Custodes.

There will probably be "Chaos Lord with Jump Pack" as its own datasheet instead of the option for a Chaos Lord to buy one.