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 NAVARRO wrote:

Hopefully they have different heads options for this model.

The other head ought to look like

Great you made my day. Thank you Sir.

I'm pretty sure there is a 'Dante like' head on the old Blood angels upgrade sprue, the non-Primaris one. So that could be an option if it is in scale.

Pretty great looking model to me, I'd do something better with the base myself. It's okay but could make it looks a lot better.

For any of you doubting that primaris Dante and/or his box is real?

GW has him posted on the community page. Compete with drilled out gun barrel.

 NAVARRO wrote:
You can tease the previous sculpt has being small, old and dated, but the head there is better executed.

Dante's armour always referenced classical antiquity visual cues. As such, the new design actually looks like the faceplate it should have always been, rather than the proto-Stromcast Man in the Iron Mask design.

Green is objectively best, red probably most akin to the original but really any would do (I like top left for Ancients).

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

The old model sucked, get over it LMAO

Old things were bad.
New things are good.
Buy Buy Buy!

In reality old things good new things better.

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

If you seriously thing the old model is better you really are seeing things through rose tinted glasses. I bet you talk about the "good old days" how everything was better, bla bla even though now is the true golden times where gw actually care about balance, fir whatever reasons.

It's the true "golden times" for miniature game options other than GW.

I thought the old model sucked and this one sucks too.

But people like different things.

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

It would have been nice if there was a sensation of growth with the Rubricon characters. Make us really feel like this is Dante further along his story, not just after he bought a new set of pants.

Have him sitting on a big dead bloodthirster chunk or something, glaring out like he's just fed up with everyone at this point. "I've killed this guy 30 times now, he just keeps coming back screaming about ending our lineage and all that."

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

Gotta admire the dedication to grind this particular axe.

Step 1: Models from the earliest days of 40k get updated.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: It's all tournament players fault!

 xttz wrote:

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

Gotta admire the dedication to grind this particular axe.

Step 1: Models from the earliest days of 40k get updated.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: It's all tournament players fault!

Dante is what, about 30 years old at this point? And still in an outdated casting medium that they're actively trying to remove from their lineup? What should they realistically have done, re-cast his decades old master in plastic?

Ragweek wrote:

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

If you seriously thing the old model is better you really are seeing things through rose tinted glasses. I bet you talk about the "good old days" how everything was better, bla bla even though now is the true golden times where gw actually care about balance, fir whatever reasons.

Gw doesn't care about balance but they realized changing imbalance to another imbalance at faster pace gets tryhards buy new armies all the time.

Interesting that the article mentions "he wields his melta-spewing Perdition Pistol", the last time he had a Perdition Pistol instead of an Inferno/Infernus Pistol was in the White Dwarf codex. It had full 12 inches of meltagun range then, an indication of new rules for this incarnation?

Santtu wrote:
Interesting that the article mentions "he wields his melta-spewing Perdition Pistol", the last time he had a Perdition Pistol instead of an Inferno/Infernus Pistol was in the White Dwarf codex. It had full 12 inches of meltagun range then, an indication of new rules for this incarnation?

Oh, the days when he had THE inferno pistol, only one of its kind. Good times.

I think the thing I really don't like about him is the helmet. It looks like a Primaris helmet with a cheap Halloween face mask over the top.

Just found out that the Vashtorr book describes a character of "The Dreamer" (so the person from the initial prophecy), who he calls "The Exile King", does that make any sense with the Lion? I've not read all the Horus Heresy novels so I don't know if that could be referring to something specific about him, if it is him as the rumours say.

IIRC it says he no longer fights alone too. I think the Lion is going to turn up with a force of fallen to save the DA from the trap Vashtorr has set for them.

Luther will return with The Lion, and due to scale creep Luther will be wearing The Lion like a Dreadknight.

New Dante looks pretty good. But something has gone wrong with the loincloth. It looks like he's struggling with a wet towel. A loincloth is also a really bad idea on someone who is going to descend at high speed - it will invariably end up in his face.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 oni wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All of these "X crossed the Rubicon!" models lack not a spark of life, but a reason to care.

It's just lazy redos. They're leaving the how or why of us caring on the table with the corpses.

Welcome to Tournament-Hammer where the models are meaningless game pieces and all that matters is 'what can it do to win games'. Pandering to the tourny-gakkers has mutated W40K into analog Skylanders.

Gotta admire the dedication to grind this particular axe.

Step 1: Models from the earliest days of 40k get updated.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: It's all tournament players fault!

Dante is what, about 30 years old at this point? And still in an outdated casting medium that they're actively trying to remove from their lineup? What should they realistically have done, re-cast his decades old master in plastic?

Gamers want what they always want...for new stuff to be exactly the same as the old stuff...but BETTER. It's true for miniatures or rulebooks.

Tyel wrote:
I thought the old model sucked and this one sucks too.

But people like different things.

This is the best answer

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Luther will return with The Lion, and due to scale creep Luther will be wearing The Lion like a Dreadknight.

You have broadcast the message.

It is now echoing in the Warp.

Someone who can 3d design and print is now getting an unexplained urge to create....

H.B.M.C. wrote:I think the thing I really don't like about him is the helmet. It looks like a Primaris helmet with a cheap Halloween face mask over the top.

Yeah. It's a little bit... well...



Like Big Bob peeled the mask off Dante's old armour and taped it onto the front of his new embiggened helmet.

Or like he has golden flabby jowl rolls around his neck. Nasty.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Little known fact?

His first name is Al.

That's a topic you can sink your teeth in.

Wayniac wrote:It's missing the same thing most sculpts have ever since they moved to 3d instead of hand sculpting: a soul. Everything feels hollow and artificial

Whuh...?

Wayniac wrote:Maybe it works like magic items in D&D, and resize to fit the wearer

Cawl at play with his newly uncovered archaeotech:

Dawnbringer wrote:I'm pretty sure there is a 'Dante like' head on the old Blood angels upgrade sprue, the non-Primaris one. So that could be an option if it is in scale.

Ah, well, I think I have some spare stormcast heads about here too. Can I interest anyone? Only £5 a pop.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Poor GW, so close of keeping it a secret and yet so far.

I think the mini has some nice ideas and details and the pose is quite dynamic, yet, again, I cannot really say I like it because the main feature, the helmet, just is not working well at all. It's like a mask stuck in the front of the normal primaris helmet, its not integrated or credible, its like a carnival mask.

Funny enough with it literally being called death MASK that I'm actually just fine with. It is literally artefact called "Death Mask of Sanguinius".