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kodos wrote: yeah, we should totally not hold high standards for premium priced miniatures coming from the company saying they make the best fantasy minis in the world but accept beginner (or AI) level design mistakes as "unavoidable" because everything is possible in a fantasy world
not that good world building would mean to stay consistent within its own "reality" anyway
Come on, you're trying really hard to be offended here. Is it silly they painted a conponent of a bionic arm as a heat shield somewhere it wouldn't work logically? Yes. Does that mean anyone needs to start going all anti-cropo activisim over the accuracy of their sci-fi minis? Not at all.
I am not offended at all, just find it funny that some people feel the need to come around on defending obvious mistakes from GW for not real reason at all
and GW makes such silly mistakes for a long time now, like modelling the folding stock of machine pistols as part of the nozzle from heavy machine guns, simply because the designer don't know that the MP he used as template has the stock folding forward, or the pilot light or any other stupid design element they saw on a stock image of something and felt it was needed on their own design
same problem here, the designer has no clue what that part of the flamer is but wanted it to be there so modeled it on the wrist
and in a world were people complain about Alien models not being anatomically correct (as if this would be possible) if made by any other company but GW, not pointing out such obvious mistakes is silly
Nobody is defending the design choice, they're saying that it's both not worth being annoyed over and not being annoyed at it/being able to hand wave it away doesn't make you a "consoomer".
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Maybe the fist folds aside and the fire comes out of the wrist?
The ignition could be in the wrist with pressure leading the fire through the conduit of the hand/claw, so you would see just some minor flames through the grid on the wrist. Would look more impressive though than more logical design choices. Well, it's possible while not exactly practical.
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kodos wrote: yeah, we should totally not hold high standards for premium priced miniatures coming from the company saying they make the best fantasy minis in the world but accept beginner (or AI) level design mistakes as "unavoidable" because everything is possible in a fantasy world
not that good world building would mean to stay consistent within its own "reality" anyway
Come on, you're trying really hard to be offended here. Is it silly they painted a conponent of a bionic arm as a heat shield somewhere it wouldn't work logically? Yes. Does that mean anyone needs to start going all anti-cropo activisim over the accuracy of their sci-fi minis? Not at all.
I am not offended at all, just find it funny that some people feel the need to come around on defending obvious mistakes from GW for not real reason at all
and GW makes such silly mistakes for a long time now, like modelling the folding stock of machine pistols as part of the nozzle from heavy machine guns, simply because the designer don't know that the MP he used as template has the stock folding forward, or the pilot light or any other stupid design element they saw on a stock image of something and felt it was needed on their own design
same problem here, the designer has no clue what that part of the flamer is but wanted it to be there so modeled it on the wrist
and in a world were people complain about Alien models not being anatomically correct (as if this would be possible) if made by any other company but GW, not pointing out such obvious mistakes is silly
Nobody is defending the design choice, they're saying that it's both not worth being annoyed over and not being annoyed at it/being able to hand wave it away doesn't make you a "consoomer".
It's not a military sim.
Look, just because you need the really big box of Daz to keep your surcoat clean, doesn't mean people can't read what you post and judge it accordingly.
Yes, you've been defending silly design from GW in this thread, which comes as a surprise to absolutely no-one.
Is it the worst example we've seen from GW? No, almost certainly not, but it shouldn't render GW immune to forum criticism.
Still, for me, an underwhelming conclusion to Grotmas as a whole.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Perhaps Huron has a mercenary mek boy that just bolted parts on that looked like a flamer to make it work.
Would also account to for the orkish jaw-job.
kodos wrote: yeah, we should totally not hold high standards for premium priced miniatures coming from the company saying they make the best fantasy minis in the world but accept beginner (or AI) level design mistakes as "unavoidable" because everything is possible in a fantasy world
not that good world building would mean to stay consistent within its own "reality" anyway
Come on, you're trying really hard to be offended here. Is it silly they painted a conponent of a bionic arm as a heat shield somewhere it wouldn't work logically? Yes. Does that mean anyone needs to start going all anti-cropo activisim over the accuracy of their sci-fi minis? Not at all.
I am not offended at all, just find it funny that some people feel the need to come around on defending obvious mistakes from GW for not real reason at all
and GW makes such silly mistakes for a long time now, like modelling the folding stock of machine pistols as part of the nozzle from heavy machine guns, simply because the designer don't know that the MP he used as template has the stock folding forward, or the pilot light or any other stupid design element they saw on a stock image of something and felt it was needed on their own design
same problem here, the designer has no clue what that part of the flamer is but wanted it to be there so modeled it on the wrist
and in a world were people complain about Alien models not being anatomically correct (as if this would be possible) if made by any other company but GW, not pointing out such obvious mistakes is silly
Nobody is defending the design choice, they're saying that it's both not worth being annoyed over and not being annoyed at it/being able to hand wave it away doesn't make you a "consoomer".
It's not a military sim.
Look, just because you need the really big box of Daz to keep your surcoat clean, doesn't mean people can't read what you post and judge it accordingly.
Yes, you've been defending silly design from GW in this thread, which comes as a surprise to absolutely no-one.
Is it the worst example we've seen from GW? No, almost certainly not, but it shouldn't render GW immune to forum criticism.
Still, for me, an underwhelming conclusion to Grotmas as a whole.
Fine but I don't consider slinging insults at other posters calling them "consoomers" an appropriate response to not being offended by a piece of metal in an odd spot.
That is really, really underwhelming. Genuinely would have thought it was a kitbash of a generic chaos marine kit without reading the updated thread title.
Fayric wrote: Perhaps Huron has a mercenary mek boy that just bolted parts on that looked like a flamer to make it work.
Would also account to for the orkish jaw-job.
I doubt there's an STC for power claw/flamer combo, so yeah I expect this to be a cobbled together hackjob of various metal parts.
I'm pretty neutral on Huron as a character, but this is way better than the metal sculpt. And being plastic means it'll be way easier to convert as well.
Huron's biggest hurdle was being another Chaos lord whose iconic feature is a big gauntlet; Abaddon already did the best pose for that, so he's already behind. They should've had him toasting a fool, or at least a few flames. That was they wouldn't need the cheesgrater to clue everyone in on the fact he's got a literal hand flamer.
Can't wait to scrape that big fist off him and slap a bunch of bats all over. Either that or make a force themed around the time the first claw teamed up with him.
Roll Three Dice wrote: That is really, really underwhelming. Genuinely would have thought it was a kitbash of a generic chaos marine kit without reading the updated thread title.
This was my view yesterday.
Not sure why GW is struggling with certain characters.
I guess the issue in the old days was that characters often were very generic with some slightly unique wargear but still. Doesn't feel very inspired. Felt the same with Malys and could pick a few others.
kodos wrote: yeah, we should totally not hold high standards for premium priced miniatures coming from the company saying they make the best fantasy minis in the world but accept beginner (or AI) level design mistakes as "unavoidable" because everything is possible in a fantasy world
not that good world building would mean to stay consistent within its own "reality" anyway
Come on, you're trying really hard to be offended here. Is it silly they painted a conponent of a bionic arm as a heat shield somewhere it wouldn't work logically? Yes. Does that mean anyone needs to start going all anti-cropo activisim over the accuracy of their sci-fi minis? Not at all.
I am not offended at all, just find it funny that some people feel the need to come around on defending obvious mistakes from GW for not real reason at all
and GW makes such silly mistakes for a long time now, like modelling the folding stock of machine pistols as part of the nozzle from heavy machine guns, simply because the designer don't know that the MP he used as template has the stock folding forward, or the pilot light or any other stupid design element they saw on a stock image of something and felt it was needed on their own design
same problem here, the designer has no clue what that part of the flamer is but wanted it to be there so modeled it on the wrist
and in a world were people complain about Alien models not being anatomically correct (as if this would be possible) if made by any other company but GW, not pointing out such obvious mistakes is silly
Nobody is defending the design choice, they're saying that it's both not worth being annoyed over and not being annoyed at it/being able to hand wave it away doesn't make you a "consoomer".
It's not a military sim.
Look, just because you need the really big box of Daz to keep your surcoat clean, doesn't mean people can't read what you post and judge it accordingly.
Yes, you've been defending silly design from GW in this thread, which comes as a surprise to absolutely no-one.
Is it the worst example we've seen from GW? No, almost certainly not, but it shouldn't render GW immune to forum criticism.
Still, for me, an underwhelming conclusion to Grotmas as a whole.
Fine but I don't consider slinging insults at other posters calling them "consoomers" an appropriate response to not being offended by a piece of metal in an odd spot.
Can’t believe no one’s is upset by how weird his dog looks! Consooomers, white knights and GW apologists the lot of them.
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Dudeface wrote: Fine but I don't consider slinging insults at other posters calling them "consoomers" an appropriate response to not being offended by a piece of metal in an odd spot.
To be fair, antagonizing people who complain about GW product is your entire personality on dakka, even when you agree with them.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Dudeface wrote: Fine but I don't consider slinging insults at other posters calling them "consoomers" an appropriate response to not being offended by a piece of metal in an odd spot.
To be fair, antagonizing people who complain about GW product is your entire personality on dakka, even when you agree with them.
We're all a product of our environment I guess?
I find it funny because anywhere else I've been told off for being too negative about releases or GW, here I'm apparently shill central.
Maybe the place needs more moderation, maybe I need to take a different viewpoint in the world, maybe others shouldn't be so quick to dunk on people who are happy, who knows.
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Or maybe we should just concentrate on the minis and games and not the dakkaites XD
I like the model but not on my must have list, to be fair apart from Deathguard and Abbadon I can skip most of the chaos range. A bit boring to my tastes.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Maybe the fist folds aside and the fire comes out of the wrist?
The ignition could be in the wrist with pressure leading the fire through the conduit of the hand/claw, so you would see just some minor flames through the grid on the wrist. Would look more impressive though than more logical design choices. Well, it's possible while not exactly practical.
This could be plausible enough considering there's at least two pieces of Huron artwork where he's "holding" the flame in his palm, including one where the entire palm side is appearing to be fully engulfed in flame. So the grill could be for doing that while the tube is for actually projecting it as a weapon.
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cuda1179 wrote: Gw Facebook page: they more or less strait up said 2026 will have a new loyalist Primarch.
A new one? Thank the Emperor. All the old ones were kinda messed up.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
Still, for me, an underwhelming conclusion to Grotmas as a whole.
I'd put money on the bet that Nightbringer was planned to be the big Christmas Day reveal until it got leaked.
Yeah this seems very plausible. It would also explain why Huron's entourage wasn't revealed yet; they're still some time away from release and GW want to keep back something new to build hype closer to the time.
Guessing that Nightbringer will follow closely with the Necron 500 worlds releases first.
cuda1179 wrote: Gw Facebook page: they more or less strait up said 2026 will have a new loyalist Primarch.
The Facebook Interns don't know much more than we do about this, that's the same kind of answer they give to this sort of question every time. Don't put any stock in it.
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Lord Perversor wrote: Worth to remember there was even a rumour of a new Guilliman model...
Wich could be quite ironically a new Primarch model in 2026
There is also the potential for 18(19) primarch models in plastic for Horus Heresy...
Don't forget the greatest Primarch of them all: Rubinek!
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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