If you could invent 1 necessary unit for your army what would it be? (nothing OP---- 40k or Fantasy)

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**Generalian**

Since I play Salamanders.... for me I would love to see a special librarian character added nothing overpowered but with specific chapter based spells. (Update later)

Like...

Salamander Librarian Pyriel
220 Points
Independent Character, They Shall Know No Fear, Eternal Warrior

WS BS S T W I A LD SV
4_4_4_ 4_6_4_3_10_3+ (Invulnerable)

-Master Pyromancer-
Every turn that Pyriel does not use one of the following psychic powers he loses 1 wound (no saves) he may only use 1 psychic power a turn

Breath of Fire
psychic attack flamer with AP 3 (Must have units in range)

The Melting Touch
psychic shooting- Multi-Melta (still allows assault) (Must have units in range)

Dancing Inferno
All units (Friend or Foe) within 24" take 6 strength 3 ap 5 hits (Must have units in range)

Wall of Fire
Place a string 12" in length in anyway with the 1 end of the string at least within 6 inches of Pyriel, any enemy model that touches or passes the string the turn after it is cast takes d6 strength d6 hits d6 ap (if string is placed on units the units must move the minimum distance away to avoid the string or they take d6 strength d6 hits d6 ap hits.

Volcanic Eruption
Choose a piece of terrain within 3 inches of Pyriel, a volcano erupts directly under that piece of piece and every model inside it, takes 1 strength 8 ap - hit

Mind Explosion
Target a single model within 6 inches, that model takes 1 wound (no saves of any kind are allowed) (only usable once per game)

Cleansing Fire
Choose 1 enemy unit within 6 inches- Choose 1 special rule for that unit, that special rule for the rest of the game now does not exist

(While his spells are powerful, they require you to get up and personal before he is either shot down or kills himself)

**Platuan4th**

Only 1? Oh well.

Land Raider Redeemer for DA.

**Generalian**

Platuan4th wrote:Only 1? Oh well.

Land Raider Redeemer for DA.

Believe me I could invent an entire codex for salamanders. But for now, just special Character would be nice.

**Platuan4th**

Generalian wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:Only 1? Oh well.

Land Raider Redeemer for DA.

Believe me I could invent an entire codex for salamanders. But for now, just special Character would be nice.

I just want the new toys...

**IG_urban**

a Commander Shadowsun/Crysis battlesuit type mech squad for cadians IG. armed with autocannons and hot point las CANNONS.

**Cheese Elemental**

Cultists for CSM.

**Generalian**

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cultists for CSM.

oh hell yeah, they would be kinda like guardsmen, but could do something like sacrifice themselves to let a single model gain back a lost wound

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IG_urban wrote:a Commander Shadowsun/Crysis battlesuit type mech squad for cadians IG. armed with autocannons and hot point las CANNONS.

sorry dude- but tau and the marines from avatar and the folks from the city of zion already got that

**Ygds**

Definitely a special Slaanesh Keeper of Secrects or more non-apocalypse daemon engines or artillery.

**hyperviper6**

Tau battlesuit that is capable of moving 24" in a turn but can only fire if it moved 12" or less. If it moves over 18" it gets a cover save.

**H3ct0r**

Tau Crisis Suits that can move 12 like jump pack units or 6 move 6 assault like jet pack and has access to Heavy Flamers, Multi Melta and comes with bonding knife standard (just in case)

**Generalian**

H3ct0r wrote:Tau Crisis Suits that can move 12 like jump pack units or 6 move 6 assault like jet pack and has access to Heavy Flamers, Multi Melta and comes with bonding knife standard (just in case)

i agree with bonding knife being standard only

**Quientin**

A special character that allows me to forgo moving or shooting units on my turn and then lets them shoot on my opponents move phase.... Ill name him Captain Q - Master of the Overwatch. have him in SM and CSM armies

maybe a lifta droppa on 4 wheels for 150 points with an all round av of 12 (have not checked out 5th ed orks... might exist, not looking forward to re-purposing my orks)

maybe create an updated version of the mole mortar for 5th (that BS in Imperial Armour does not count) and give IG players something to really laugh about.

Make a Midget Carnifex, just like the regular Fex but smaller so People will quit griping about cover and Los rules over my 2nd ed figs

that's one for each army i got

**Tim the Biovore**

I'd like a Hive Tyrant psycher with a special rule like;

Steel Will: All Hormagaunt units within the army stay for an extra turn once they die.

It just kind of shows the power of the Hive Mind, keeping something fighting even when dead.

**The Fox Lord**

For the 'nids The Dominatrix, ruleswise I'd just make it a cross between a Tervigon & a Tyrannofex that poops Warriors insead of Gaunts.

For Da Orkz, Das Uber Grot. He's a gretchen with the WS_6 BS_3 S_5 T_5 W_3 I_6 A_4 LD_10 He's armed with a Khorn Berserker Chain Ax and wears CSM Power Armor in addtion all Gretchen in the army my buy 'eavy Armor for +5pts. each and all gretchen may use the WAAGH!, Mob Rule! & Furrious Charge Rules (I base this character off a grot from my friends old Ork army who back in 2nd edition Killed 3 Khorn Bersekers in Close Combat all by himself)

It's not a unit, but I'd add Heavy Flamer & Sniper Rifle to the Special/Heavy Weapons choices for Marine Tac Squads

**Clthomps**

Dark Eldar Raven for 40k

Fast attack:

RAVEN
11 / 11 / 10 Pt 120

Fast, simmer

Must purchase 1 weapon from the following list:
Dark Lance 10pt, Disintegrator 10pt, or Twin-linked Splinter Cannon Free

Must purchase 2 of the following weapons:
Blaster 5pt, Shredder 5pt, Splinter cannon Free

Special rules:
The Raven must move flat-out every turn if possible.

Due to its incredible speed, Crew stunned results are reduced to crew shaken.

The raven may fire all weapons at a single target even while traveling flat-out, provided that the target was in the front armor facing of the raven at the beginning of the turn.

**BAWTRM**

(half)Pikes for my Empire army. The fluff has only talked about them for decades already.....

**the_ferrett**

A heavy skorcha for the boyz. Something medium vehicle like with higher strength value (or more shots, or armor)

**helgrenze**

Abhuman support squad.

Counts as troops.
Ws/bs/s/t/w/i/a/ld/sv
4 /3 /3 /4/1/3/1/9/4+

1sgt and 4 troopers armed with bolters.
Special rules: Counter attack, Relentless, Stubborn

up to 4 troopers may be armed with Heavy bolters at 15pts per.
Unit cost @70-80 pts.

**Syraphym**

I'll take 3 of those Ravens, por favor!

Also, any upgrade that gives Raiders either a permanent cover save or "night fighting".

**Thunderfrog**

For my Eldar, a special Pathfinder character.

Saren Un'Pathe

Independant Character; Masters of Stealth; Fleet of Foot, Pathfinder Upgrades. (2+ improved cover saves. +1 Cover save at all times.)

WS/BS/S/ T / W/ I / A / LD/ SV
4 / 5 / 3/ 4 / 1 / 5/ 1 / 8 /4+

Wargear: Longdeath Rifle, Ranger Perimiter Shield, Shuriken Pistol.

Longdeath Rifle - Sniper - Pinning - Str * - Heavy 2
The Longdeath Rifle receives the Rending special rule on a roll of 4+.
*The Longdeath Rifle wounds on a roll of 3+.
*The Longdeath Rifle inflicts instant death on a To Wound roll of 6.

Ranger Perimiter Shield: This is a mobile force shield that can deploy in the field and protects Saren Un'Pathe with a +4 Invulnerable save. This field can expand to encompass a squad of Rangers or Pathfinders to whom Saren is attatched. Any unit assaulting a unit with a Ranger Perimeter Shield is considered assaulting through difficult terrain. The Ranger Perimiter Shield has a 4+ chance to ignore grenades on the assault move.

Explanation - This character is a must have for people who like to play pathfinders in a marine heavy enviroment. Otherwise, inevitably, on turn 2 or 3 comes a drop pod with a squad of flamer weilding D-Bags to super scorch your defenseless and immobile Pathfinders into oblivion with a single flamer template. This gives a Ranger squad a save against the first round of flamer fire, keeping them alive just long enough to either run, or return fire into whatever is trying to BBQ them.

Other than a special character to help out ye old pathfinders.. Improve the Phoenix Lords and allow a phoenix lord to field his aspect as a troop choice!

**MeanGreenStompa**

For the orks, a transport in transport slots that's like the 'Big Trakk' from forgeworld, decent armour and delivers a large payload of orks but doesn't use up heavy support slots and is considerably cheaper than the battlewagon.

**Bloodhorror**

a Better Soul Grinder for the Daemons
Or a Big Noise marine tank for CSM

ORRRRR a Special Character Keeper of Secrects.

**Samus_aran115**

Daemon Prince with daemon weapon and terminator armor.

**Mr-_-Flidd**

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cultists for CSM.

This, thank you please very much!!

**juraigamer**

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cultists for CSM.

Nothing else takes precedence over this. This thread is over.

In other news: Chaos recruitment is up... WAY up!

**Pipboy101**

Plague Zombies for a CSM. For every infantry or cav model killed on both sides are replaced with a zombie.

**Mattlov**

I would just like more OPTIONS for my Grey Knights:

Land Speeders with psycannons.

Additional heavy weapons.

Grey Knight "Scouts": Give 'em bolters and no NFW, just make them cheaper (by a lot) than a standard Grey Knight.

More Dreadnought options like Ironclads, or Grey Knight Grand Master IN a dreadnought.

I just want a little more variety.

**JohnHwangDD**

Clthomps wrote:Dark Eldar Raven for 40k

Batman wants his Bat-plane back!

**Orkeosaurus**

Bring the old Tankbustas back for the Orks.

**Lanrak**

Hi all.
Probably already mentioned, Orks need 'Tankks, and Waagh trukks', to replace looted vehicles.

To give Orks some half decent medium armour.(Vehicles looted and suitably kustomised by the Meks to make them safe for orks to use.)

Tankk. AV 13/12/11, Tank 6", turret mounted Boom- gun or Kill- kannon.With the option of hull-sponson mounted big shootas.

Waagh truck. AV 12/11/10 6" open topped.Big shoota. (Orky APC )

Just lists the basic size of the vehicles permitted, to allow players to Konvert other races vehices in a suitably Orky way.

I miss The old Orky vehicles ,Gobsmashers Spleenrippas,Braincrushers, Gutrippas,Lungburstas, Bone crunchers,Skull Hammers and Giblet Grinders.

TTFN
Lanrak.