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Those decals look great Fatty will be pleased

Fatty is pleased

those decals look ace Git

Looking good man! Loving your stuff!

Thanks all! Might get this little bugger done tonight or tomorrow night. Keep your fingers crossed!

Quality work my friend. Somehow unsubbed,most peculiar. However, here we are again. Ate you planning on powder weathering, paint chipping, sponging or a combination (or something else? Something new and uniquely gitish? Yup, you got your own adjective now).

Happens to me on occasion too... (losing a subbed thread).

Believe it or not graven... it's not the first time in my life I've been the source of unique words (invented by others).

In answer to your question... yes. Chipping, powders, the works. I just wanted to get the main paint job done before I go attacking it with sponges and various other implements of destruction.

I'm gona have to catch up with this blog soon - I got halfway but now south park is on - great stuff gits and thanks for showing the mug!

Thanks for making it! I enjoy tea and coffee out of it quite frequently.

Nice Grot tank Git, I was waiting to see the end product and comment, but I couldn't wait.
Right way to WAAAAAGH!

@Slev: Thank you sir, glad I could bring you out of your shell!

Getting close. Only the powder (mud & dust) to do now. OH, wait... forgot... I was going to speckle some rust spots across it too.

Looks great, Gitsplitta. All the battle damage really brings it to life. I love the "Tank Boss" bit.

Dat's juss in kase dey fr'get who'd-a big boss o' dem grotz really iz!! Weedy little gitz!

Goddam I love me some grotz... Don't forget to paint the finger nails!

Tank #2 "da tank kommanda", is done! Very zoomable pic.



And a group shot of what can now be considered "da panza korpse" (as in the dead body).



Only 4 more to go!

Looking awesome as always!

A couple of picky notes to do as with you will:

1) It always seems odd to me, given the slap dash nature of Orks, that they can paint their dags and checks so cleanly - and yet - I do prefer them that way. Case in point - you have obviously used decals for the checks on the sides, and these are awesome. You have obviously painted the checks on the turret - more Orky perhaps, but looks less good - especially when you have such an awesome example elsewhere on the tank... For some reason, the painted dags and flames don't seem to detract nearly as much though - perhaps due to the single colour, the natural curves, or the lack of pristine examples...

2) The green writing is an odd colour choice, and I find english words on Orks odd - or at least very difficult to include appropriately. Appropriate glyphs may have suited it better. Funnily enough - I have no issue with your AV14 number plate...

3) "Water" stains appear too thick and well defined.

4) Interesting choices of colour for the rokkits, though I think my real issue with them is that they are too plain and/or too clean compared with the rest of the model.

5) Some of the brown paint mud splatter/chipping seems a bit thick.

6) I may have highlighted the Grot more...

On the up side:

7) All decals appear to have been expertly applied and weathered.

8) Except for the checks, freehand is great if not quite perfect.

9) Mud/powder use looks great - though you might want to add a couple of different varieties for some variation in colour.

10) Metalwork, especially the brass, is awesome.

11) Some of the weathering on the larger nuts and bolts is spot on.

I would be proud to own such a piece.

Apologies for the long list - I bet you weren't expecting that much from your PM - but I'm deep in the middle of assessing the 42 Infinity painting competition entries - so I'm on a roll for extracting as much as possible as I can. I only hope its helpful

I think its cool Git. Great job on the dirt and grime. It's almost to much but it still works. I can see where Arakasi is coming from on most of his points as well. Wheres the third tank at?

Thanks Arakasi... so many good comments to respond to...

Arakasi wrote:1) It always seems odd to me, given the slap dash nature of Orks, that they can paint their dags and checks so cleanly - and yet - I do prefer them that way. Case in point - you have obviously used decals for the checks on the sides, and these are awesome. You have obviously painted the checks on the turret - more Orky perhaps, but looks less good - especially when you have such an awesome example elsewhere on the tank... For some reason, the painted dags and flames don't seem to detract nearly as much though - perhaps due to the single colour, the natural curves, or the lack of pristine examples...

The funny part is that the checks under the turrett aren't free hand, they're molded into the figure. I just painted them as-is. So the problem isn't my free-hand (the dags) vs. the decals... it's the decals vs. the sculpt. Your point is well taken though, and I totally get it. I just can't bring myself to hand paint the checks... even though I think they'd look much more authentic that way. I suppose I could have the yellow encroach on the edges of the strip, but then it'd look weird and the outside edges of the strip would be rough while the inside is nice and clean.

2) The green writing is an odd colour choice, and I find english words on Orks odd - or at least very difficult to include appropriately. Appropriate glyphs may have suited it better. Funnily enough - I have no issue with your AV14 number plate...

I just thought it would be nice to introduce a spot of color off-palette for interest... and grots are green after all. The glyph on the back of the turret is actually the "boss" glyph... but the deal with humor is people have to understand it. I could make the best jokes with orky glyphs and what... one person in 500 would take the time to look them up and get it?? I'd rather use a bit of English to get the point across. All of the glyphs I did use mean something in the context of the tank though.

3) "Water" stains appear too thick and well defined.

My first attempt. I should have used Sepia rather than Delvan Mud.

4) Interesting choices of colour for the rokkits, though I think my real issue with them is that they are too plain and/or too clean compared with the rest of the model.

They're based on the colors for the rockets my regular orks carry, so I'm just being consistent with the army rather than specifically choosing them for this model. The reason they're cleaner (and I did put some thought into this), is that they're munitions... they're only on the tank long enough to be fired off... not long enough to accrue a bunch of mud, rust and chips. Now... they could well be manufactured crappily... but it just didn't seem realistic to me to have them all crapped up when they're essentially fired off in an "as new" condition.

5) Some of the brown paint mud splatter/chipping seems a bit thick.

Quite possibly. The reddish speckles are actually supposed to be rust.

6) I may have highlighted the Grot more...

I looked at him carefully & his lower lip, eye socket and finger nails were the last things I did on the piece. He's highlighted all the way up to scorp green. I suppose I could add some more yellow and really bring up some extreme highlights along some edges.

On the up side:

7) All decals appear to have been expertly applied and weathered.

I used a trick I learned from an expert local modeler to help make the edges of the decals disappear. Cover the decal with gloss coat (slightly diluted), then overspray with dull coat. The gloss is thicker and fills in the "step" between the decal edge and the model. Worked pretty well.

8) Except for the checks, freehand is great if not quite perfect.

"Perfect" is not what I was shooting for... see our previous discussion on the checks above.

9) Mud/powder use looks great - though you might want to add a couple of different varieties for some variation in colour.

Actually, I'm scratching my head about this... if you see the previous tank... the two powders I used there were the exact same two I used with the new one, only the difference between the wet and dry mud is much more pronounced. I'm not sure what happened between the two.

10) Metalwork, especially the brass, is awesome.

11) Some of the weathering on the larger nuts and bolts is spot on.

I would be proud to own such a piece.

Apologies for the long list - I bet you weren't expecting that much from your PM - but I'm deep in the middle of assessing the 42 Infinity painting competition entries - so I'm on a roll for extracting as much as possible as I can. I only hope its helpful

Couldn't have asked for better my friend, thank you!

Holy crap Gits...you really went to town with the weathering! Some of the water stains look a bit thick, surreal...as if the edges could be a bit softer.

I think Forge World solves this by applying deluted oil paints and then hitting it with distilled thinner with an air brush (oh, look...another reason to use your beloved airbrush ) to tone it down and blend it into the base paint job.

But still, the chipping and rust is very good. How did you apply the small chip marks...with a sponge? or by flicking your brush?

Boy, I really do like this grot tank painted in Mantis Warrior "Tranquility" scheme...

Never thought of that brian!

Awesome work Gits.

wyomingfox wrote:Holy crap Gits...you really went to town with the weathering! Some of the water stains look a bit thick, surreal...as if the edges could be a bit softer.

I think Forge World solves this by applying deluted oil paints and then hitting it with distilled thinner with an air brush (oh, look...another reason to use your beloved airbrush ) to tone it down and blend it into the base paint job.

But still, the chipping and rust is very good. How did you apply the small chip marks...with a sponge? or by flicking your brush?

Brush... took me hours as the chipping actually has two tones (light and dark). Typically with chips you use a "primer color" and an edging which is usually a very light version of the base color. However, no way in Hades that grots are going to prime before they paint, so I went with a bright metal (chainmail) and a very dark one (Vallejo air "black metallic").

I think some of what you guys are responding to are some heavy brown areas that were the result of the very first sepia wash and not actually my "weathering" attempts. I can go in with some yellow and fix those areas up to reduce the drastic appearence of the brown shadow/water effect. (the back of the turret under the "fist" glyph for example).

Great job Gits, very convincing weathering. Love the mud, maye go over in some places wit hthe lighter stuff, not too much though.

Have you thought of wethering your brass with terquiosy wash? awesome paint job had a good mix on one of his vids. I used it and was pleased with the result.

Also onlt other thing I would do is soot effets on the exhaust, and maybe behind where the missiles fire from.

When I get round to painting my tank I hope I can get this sort of look.

Looking forward to the next four

tipios wrote:Great job Gits, very convincing weathering. Love the mud, maye go over in some places wit hthe lighter stuff, not too much though.

Have you thought of wethering your brass with terquiosy wash? awesome paint job had a good mix on one of his vids. I used it and was pleased with the result.

Also onlt other thing I would do is soot effets on the exhaust, and maybe behind where the missiles fire from.

When I get round to painting my tank I hope I can get this sort of look.

Looking forward to the next four

Excellent comments tipios.

If I can figure out how I got the lighter brown color, I'll do it. I thought about weathering the bronze but for some reason the obvious answer didn't occur to me. I'll do that too. And lastly, I usually put soot on my exhausts... I just forgot.

Man you're good... 3 for 3!

Looking good man! Btw are they FW?

Yep.

Molded checks? Well I never...

Sepia mixed with Badab is quite nice (FW trick that)

Ah - but you haven't pictured your tanks with the rest of your army yet have you? *hint* *hint*. My point still stands - would decals, glyphs or other Orky/Grot scrawlz be out of the question on those Rokkits, just to make it less "plain" (My Ork rokkits are recycled from Dark Angel armour left rusting at the back of the Mek Shop - so there! )

Great, not quite perfect, freehand was including free hand glyphs and dags, not just the checks

But I think everything is in order

Arakasi wrote:Molded checks? Well I never...

Sepia mixed with Badab is quite nice (FW trick that)

I'll have to try that next time.

Ah - but you haven't pictured your tanks with the rest of your army yet have you? *hint* *hint*. My point still stands - would decals, glyphs or other Orky/Grot scrawlz be out of the question on those Rokkits, just to make it less "plain" (My Ork rokkits are recycled from Dark Angel armour left rusting at the back of the Mek Shop - so there! )

Actually, that's a good idea... consider it "on the list of things to do".

Great, not quite perfect, freehand was including free hand glyphs and dags, not just the checks

Oh yes, I understood you perfectly. (even if I can't paint perfectly)

Gitsplitta wrote:Brush... took me hours as the chipping actually has two tones (light and dark).

You mean all those tiny little specks (no bigger than pin heads) that suround the edges of the panels was done by indivudually painting them with a brush...vs applying the effect by either a sponge or flicking your brush?

I think some of what you guys are responding to are some heavy brown areas that were the result of the very first sepia wash and not actually my "weathering" attempts. I can go in with some yellow and fix those areas up to reduce the drastic appearence of the brown shadow/water effect. (the back of the turret under the "fist" glyph for example).

I was talking about the blackish or dark brown verticle streaks that you applied near bolt heads, gashes, ect. They were executed well, it is just FW has a better visual delivery that utilizes oils followed by distillants applied through an airbrush to soften the effect. Next time you come over (your turn next gits) I will show you the FW book. It's a neat trick and I think you could pick it up easily since you have you are already use to airbrushes.

Ah, got it. Hmmm, I wonder if a dilute yellow wash would accomplish anything? Probably just turn them green. :/

Maybe I'll experiment in a non-critical area.