Those Minotaurs. Tempting. But I haven't even played through all of Black Plague, let alone gotten ZCide 2.0. I even skipped the awesome looking Egypt game (Ankh?) because moar plastic pile and shipping, can't justify this. But...Minotaurs. The BP one is the best Abomination by far and those would be a great addition.
The BP one is bigger than those, though, or is that new survivor much bigger than the older one they used for comparisons?
The All-In Gameplay Pledge is up for $240 now. A lot of people were dreaming very high on what that last add-on would be, but of course CMON did their typical "lolwtf am i doing" move and put out a weak, themeless abomination box, so there's a lot of negative Nellies in the comments.
The theme is Godzilla vs King Kong to tie into the new movie. Doesn’t really fit with the Wild West theme but that’s not uncommon for CMON Kickstarter’s.
> How long before we see a Marvel: Zombicide based on the Marvel Zombies storyline?
Sounds good. CMON, of course, has been working with Marvel, and it depends on the boardgame IP. I've noticed that more hobby games are simultaneously using very similar IP, especially popular ones like DC.
Personally, I'd like a Piratecide. The Z standalone could even be a Rum and Bones crossover, expansion, or standalone (mercenaries or human crew vs. undead crew) or vice-versa.
Some backer requests weren't fulfilled in the Undead KS, and the funding looks good, so mebbe a S2 in a few years.
I'm excited to see the Lannisters get some of the spotlight as they have suffered a bit under the last edition.
If you are unfamiliar with the game, you might not be able to tell it, but this army plays very thematically with lots of counterplay, and frustrating your opponents plans.
Tywin is an absolute beast on the tactics board as he should be.
I'm almost certain MM just checked current ebay prices and set them a few dollars less figuring that those 3 items would just be scalped for a higher price so why shouldn't they make the money then? The 5th player extra set use to sell for around $300 before a bunch more came out during time machine. Not excusing it at all but I'm sure that's the rational.
Though it's odd that Fenrir is so expensive when they have over 20 of it all the others are less then 10.
Yeah, but what did you expect ? With CMON's artificial "limited/exclusive" releases, it's only the natural consequence.
This is their model now. And it works, people blindly throw their money at their face in fear of missing the last KS "exclusive deal". It has no end on purpose.
Yep. As a KS addict if I really want a CMON game, I'll back it. Otherwise, I'll wait for a sale (an actual sale, not what MM is doing) and get a base game at 1/2 the price of the pledge plus shipping.
I won't get everything I want, but I won't be paying for it, either.
Sarouan wrote: Yeah, but what did you expect ? With CMON's artificial "limited/exclusive" releases, it's only the natural consequence.
This is their model now. And it works, people blindly throw their money at their face in fear of missing the last KS "exclusive deal". It has no end on purpose.
This is really only applicable to the US.
If I were to order it from MM instead, I’m paying more due to the shipping and exchange rate.
And I’m not guaranteed to get everything I want. Only what’s ‘left’ is available and usually at a much higher price.
For those in the US it makes perfect sense to wait for retail or MM to grab the leftovers.
But for those of us outside the US where shipping gets really expensive, it doesn’t.
I still back the projects I like and want through KS because it’s less of a headache and expense to track it all down later.
If that costs me a few bucks more in the long run it’s worth the extra cost to not have to hunt down product.
Very rarely do many of the Canadian shops get the full run of product from the KS, and it’s always more expensive.
I’ll continue to back what I like and what I want for convenience sake.
They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
Theophony wrote: They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
Theophony wrote: They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
X-Men Babies KS basically ...
X-Babies were actually a thing back in the late 80s / early 90s. Cloned versions of the x-men.
Spoiler:
The Avengers versions also appeared (Mitey 'Vengers) and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Brotherhood of Bulies).
They're not exactly chibi / babies, when I look at the Jean Grey renders. She has boobs and her head isn't that big as it should be for true chibi style. It's more like CMON's interpretation of heroic chibis.
Eh, at least it's different from what we saw before as Marvel miniatures. 'cause, let's be honest, doing them "as in the comics" is already common enough.
This is a reverse-engineered guess, but I've noticed, especially since KS started, IP licensors, particularly Marvel and DC, have licensed more different games than in the old days, when your favorite IP was stuck with a craptastic game system (who else remembers the WotC XMen card game?). Frex, iirc, with Star Wars, FFG had the rights for miniature games, while Hasbro had them for boardgames (and, yes, you could read between the FFG lines that the two companies came to an agreement when it came to Imperial Assault...). With Marvel, WizKids (HeroClix), Atomic Games (?) (Marvel Crisis Protocol) and CMON/Whoever (Marvel United) either wanted a sculpting style that distinguished them from the other Marvel games, or their differences were part of the license.
Theophony wrote: They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
X-Men Babies KS basically ...
X-Babies were actually a thing back in the late 80s / early 90s. Cloned versions of the x-men.
Spoiler:
The Avengers versions also appeared (Mitey 'Vengers) and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Brotherhood of Bulies).
I am a comic nerd ...of course I know about the X-Men Babies
Theophony wrote: They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
X-Men Babies KS basically ...
X-Babies were actually a thing back in the late 80s / early 90s. Cloned versions of the x-men.
Spoiler:
The Avengers versions also appeared (Mitey 'Vengers) and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Brotherhood of Bulies).
I am a comic nerd ...of course I know about the X-Men Babies
Same, I actually have the issues somewhere, but have never had desire for models of it.
Theophony wrote: They are already cartoons, WHY do they need the big Chibi heads? Big pass from me. I know there are plenty of Chibi fans out there and to each their own, but stop getting your chocolate in MY peanut butter
X-Men Babies KS basically ...
X-Babies were actually a thing back in the late 80s / early 90s. Cloned versions of the x-men.
Spoiler:
The Avengers versions also appeared (Mitey 'Vengers) and the Brotherhood of Mutants (Brotherhood of Bulies).
I am a comic nerd ...of course I know about the X-Men Babies
Same, I actually have the issues somewhere, but have never had desire for models of it.
Well, I always wanted to paint my favorite Marvel characters but somehow everything that was on the market did not grab my attention enough. Those MU models did it despite the Chibi style ... so they did something right.
i'd imagine they have to put the Marvel game in whenever their partner who's actually got the licence wants since they're the ones who are taking it to retail
(last time round even those used to CMON delivering stuff after retailers got theirs were shocked by how fast the base game was in the shops, as it looked to have been well into manufacturing before the KS even happened, it wouldn't surprise me if it's the same this time)
We're happy to announce that due to some changes in English product retail distribution, we will be making much of the original Marvel United Kickstarter material available (including promos) as add-ons in our upcoming Marvel United: X-Men campaign!
The bottom line is that the non-Kickstarter Exclusive expansions, with the exception of Enter the Spider-verse, will NOT be hitting retail, making those boxes exclusive by default. We wanted to make sure that previous backers who held out for retail for certain expansions still had the chance to purchase them, and also for people discovering the core box at retail to have the chance to add more variety to their game. While we are still working out the details on how it will be offered, we do want to share some important points with you.
First, the original Marvel United Core Box will NOT be part of the offering. Second, you can expect a price raise on most products as compared to the original Kickstarter due to lower print runs as well as the rising cost of component materials. Third, like the original campaign, we will offer the option to ship in two waves; anything ordered that's from the first campaign will ship to backers during the 2ND WAVE. We'll see you at the launch!
Some points of note
- Sales of $25 million down $5 million on 2019
- Loss of $4.9 million - had they maintained the 2019 level they would have broke even.
- Reserves $17.6 million
- Europe makes up 33.5% of their sales new VAT rules for 2021 might affect that in future
By sales channels
Kickstarter $16,542,380 65.8%
Online store and game conventions $110,114 0.4%
Wholesales $8,485,656 33.8%
Our revenue decreased by approximately 17.5% to approximately US$25.1 million for the year ended 31 December 2020 from
approximately US$30.5 million for the year ended 31 December 2019, primarily due to the decrease in revenue from board games. Revenue from board games decreased by approximately 20.7% to approximately US$21.9 million for the year ended 31 December 2020 from approximately US$27.6 million for the year ended 31 December 2019.
In terms of sales channels, revenue via Kickstarter decreased to approximately US$16.5 million for the year ended 31 December 2020 from approximately US$16.8 million for the year ended 31 December 2019, which was mainly due to the decrease in recognition of sales from 3 Kickstarter games in 2020 compared to 4 Kickstarter games in 2019.
North America and Europe remained as our major markets, with North American and European sales making up approximately 87.4% and 87.5% of our total revenue combined for the years ended 31 December 2020 and 2019 respectively.
So that leaves the argument I've seen tossed around dakkadakka that because a few companies had up years during the pandemic, all companies everywhere must be making more money and that consumers must have more money to throw at all of them despite massive upticks in unemployment and underemployment, a smoking ruin.
Or I suppose they can still rationalize their bad argument in that CMON didn't do as well because they didn't include the right model that person wanted in their latest KS campaign. XD
The only CMON game I purchase for is ASOIAF, covid really curtailed the releases for the game in 2020. Combine that with Asmodee's awful distribution and I can see how they lost a lot of money in the year. The first releases for the game (War Mammoths and Mother Of Dragons) only came out in the UK in the past week.
That is in the UK, the America/Australian release seems to be up in the air. Last week the CMON video featuring the War Mammoths was pulled in short order and a lot of retailers Stateside have been told the release may be put back to August, apologies.
It appears the official distribution list in the US have moved the releases to May. Not great but not as bad as August.
Received my Mother of Dragons last week but Mammoths are back at the sorting office as missed today’s post. Looks like my Stormcrow Dervishes order won’t be fulfilled dispute preordering over 15 months ago).
Aeneades wrote: It appears the official distribution list in the US have moved the releases to May. Not great but not as bad as August.
Received my Mother of Dragons last week but Mammoths are back at the sorting office as missed today’s post. Looks like my Stormcrow Dervishes order won’t be fulfilled dispute preordering over 15 months ago).
Thanks for the update Aeneades, May is not too long a wait if they hit that release date. I feel your pre order pain, over a year since I pre ordered the Hrakkars. I was an idiot and pre ordered Mother of Dragons three times due to forgetfulness, great sculpts though.
Aeneades wrote: It appears the official distribution list in the US have moved the releases to May. Not great but not as bad as August.
Received my Mother of Dragons last week but Mammoths are back at the sorting office as missed today’s post. Looks like my Stormcrow Dervishes order won’t be fulfilled dispute preordering over 15 months ago).
Got my Mother of Dragons and Targ heroes yesterday - love the artwork and the models are cool
Sacredroach wrote: I have had the Mother of Dragons on pre-order since November...good to hear it is finally shipping.
The sick problem with Asmodee distribution is that I have had those, and several other units still on preorder, since last October. It is surreal that some stores can get product a year early, meaning it is done and sitting in warehouses, while others wait.
ASoIaF will always break my heart, as an incredible game, stuck in the hands of complete imbeciles.
Sacredroach wrote: I have had the Mother of Dragons on pre-order since November...good to hear it is finally shipping.
The sick problem with Asmodee distribution is that I have had those, and several other units still on preorder, since last October. It is surreal that some stores can get product a year early, meaning it is done and sitting in warehouses, while others wait.
ASoIaF will always break my heart, as an incredible game, stuck in the hands of complete imbeciles.
Oh man do I feel this.
I've had some things on pre-order for nearly a year.
Sarouan wrote: Like I said, they only survive thanks to Kickstarters.
No wonder they keep making those frantically one after the other.
Speaking of, I wonder if Mierce is dead, they were completly reliant on Kickstarters to stay afloat even before the pandemic, and were taking around 6 years to deliver things. If they were I don't know if I would be capable of being upset.
Sarouan wrote: Like I said, they only survive thanks to Kickstarters.
No wonder they keep making those frantically one after the other.
Speaking of, I wonder if Mierce is dead, they were completly reliant on Kickstarters to stay afloat even before the pandemic, and were taking around 6 years to deliver things. If they were I don't know if I would be capable of being upset.
They're not. Mierce is still working it's way though KS stuff but they haven't done one, outside of a merch Kickstarter, in quite some time (maybe 2 years). They've transitioned on doing special deals around resculpts of old figures and new ones a few times a year but all that delivers with in a few weeks of the estimated timeframe.
Apocalypse and the Horsemen trailer for Marvel United: X-Men (KS April 14th)
The Horseman of the Apocalypse expansion is exclusive to the Kickstarter campaign and is available as part of The Apocalypse Pledge for $100. That includes the core box set and all of the stretch goals revealed throughout the campaign
Everytime someone complains about GW's FOMO practices, I will have a thought about CMON's kickstarters.
"But look at how much value ! The amount of free exclusive characters you get ! You won't get that much a bargain at retail, if at all !"
I'm telling you, CMON has a "back" button for every of their Kickstarters that they keep pressing and it triggers thousand of faithful CMON fanboyz who never fail to rush as soon as the project is online.
Why bother ? It's like trying to fight microtransactions in mobile games. Like trying to push back the sea waves with your bare hands. Completely and utterly useless. The spirale never ends.
Bossk_Hogg wrote: Them leading with Feral of all characters on their stretch goals leads me to think they're going to go pretty deep in the roster. Come on Glob Herman!
Of course they are. The initial steps weren't even what they intended to achieve at the end of the campaign. The true goal is certainly 2 or 3 millions or something.
They just unveiled Legion, tells you how far they can find the next KS exclusive character out of their hat. And they're certainly keeping some of the most expected mutants for later as well.
For UK ASOIAF players, the Greyjoy starter should be hitting stores next week. The two additional Greyjoy units and hero box are not on the release list unfortunately so hopefully they are coming the following week.
Aeneades wrote: For UK ASOIAF players, the Greyjoy starter should be hitting stores next week. The two additional Greyjoy units and hero box are not on the release list unfortunately so hopefully they are coming the following week.
Welp, time to move to the UK.
That is great news. I'm excited for them to show up here in the US (supposedly next month).
Jeez, it's like full on 90's X-Force up in this kickstarter, with a dash of late 80s Art Adams X-books! While I dig the nostalgia factor I think some of these characters' modern costumes are a bit cooler.
With Longshot and Arcade showing up, I'm hopeful for Shatterstar and Mojo making appearances.
Maybe since Callisto and mohawk Storm are in, we'll see the Marauders?
I'm betting Cable is going to be locked into an expansion. Hopefully with a Strife to fight. Maybe a Sentinel or two? Perhaps even Nimrod?
Or maybe we'll see something out of left field like an Age of Apocalypse expansion!
That is amusingly not the worst image of him. The X-Tinction Age da had three artists, including Rob Liefeld, who each had different ideas about Hodge’s appearance.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Jim Lee’s take was closer to an AT-43 Therion machine.
I wonder how much of that is necessary to play team v team? How much could you adapt the current Avengers line to be TvT before getting any of these kickstarter items?
It'd be a weird choice and a bit of a deep dive but, sure, why not?
(However unlikely it may be, if you want it, we want you to get it!)
Yeah, he has better artwork certainly. Other than Apocalypse, I can't think of a more iconic X-Factor specific villain. Hodge actually founded the team and convinced the original X-Men to pose as mutant hunters, increasing anti-mutant sentiments (Great psychic work there Jean!). He amputated Warren's wings, killed his fiance, killed Warlock to absorb his essence and become a techno-organic monstrosity, brainwashed Rahne, Havoc, Rictor and other mutants on Genosha with lasting repercussions. Hodge was pretty legit for a random human with no powers.
Really pleased and surprised with the X-Force expansion being a free stretch goal rather than a paid add on! It's like the reverse of the usual "fake stretch goal"!
Only classic era "must have's" for me left: Deadpool, Kitty Pryde, and Nightcrawler!
Dang, they're going to end up getting me with that X-Force box.
They're pushing some hardcore nostalgia on me with that one.
I can remember seeing X-Force #1 on a school bus coming back from a field trip.
It was pretty impressive to an edgy teen at the time, especially to one who was much less discerning about comic art at that time.
I can only imagine what else they've got in store. Gotta go Age of Apocalypse I think.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I can only imagine what else they've got in store. Gotta go Age of Apocalypse I think.
Nope, instead of more nostalgia they chose a Phoenix Five expansion box i.e. more duplicate models of already existing characters. Its a new campaign game mode and those characters now present villains, but I wanted more other obscure x-characters rather than more "dupes". This expansion definitely polarizing the comment section of the KS ...
Really disappointed with the quality control for the cards in my Zombicide 2nd edition pledge. Have attached an example below which shows how off centre the decks have been cut, in this instance the left hand deck is the easy spawn cards and the right hand deck are the hard spawn cards so it’s obvious how hard the encounter will be before you pull a card. All the card decks I have checked so far have been cut this poorly.
That's dreadful. Hopefully CMON are able to replace the defective cards, and work with their printer to ensure better quality work for future projects.
Also Apocalyspe is being upgraded to Anti-Hero in the AoA set, so that's awesome!
I'm really loving all the stuff coming down from this Kickstarter, yeh it's expensive, but there's a LOT here that no other game is really offering for tabletop experience. Only game coming close is MCP.
I have a theory that next year's KS is going to be FF/Inhumans to finish out a lot of the earth based heroes for United.
Alpharius wrote: Nimrod showing up will see me finally fail that Willpower save on this one.
And there's got to be a ruleset where we can use all of these miniatures and the Marvel United ones in a 'proper' skirmish game too, right?
Terrain might be the only issue there, with the odd scale, but that's not too big of...an obstacle?
You had to know it was coming:
Spoiler:
Ha! Yeah - they got me!
Those Sentinels too - nice!
Just waiting for the inevitable (?) "All In Gameplay" pledge...
rybackstun wrote:That DoFP set is amazing.
Also Apocalyspe is being upgraded to Anti-Hero in the AoA set, so that's awesome!
I'm really loving all the stuff coming down from this Kickstarter, yeh it's expensive, but there's a LOT here that no other game is really offering for tabletop experience. Only game coming close is MCP.
I have a theory that next year's KS is going to be FF/Inhumans to finish out a lot of the earth based heroes for United.
Well I was wrong, the next Kickstarter will not be F4 centric, but I'm ok with that because I GET DOOM SOONER!
WOOOOO!
Also very happy for the Uncanny Pledge because that allows people to just dump all the base expansions into one big bundle and not worry about managing which expacs you need to have selected.
KS finished out with 5.9m and they gave us the Marrow Stretch Goal for breaking their previous KS record.
This was a real good KS. SO many characters and with new Anti-Hero options we can see more cool things in the future in addition to all the cool stuff we got for this KS.
I just wish I knew how Mother of Dragons worked in 1.7. I don't have any infantry for my Targs so I need to buy a unit to run Danny and I have no idea what to get.
Alpharius wrote: I'm excited that the FF and DOOM made it in here but...
...I'm bummed that they are the centerpiece of the 'next season' for this game.
I feel like so many awesome characters connected with the FF might not see the light of day now.
And a Galactus model would've been nice too!
Though he'll probably still show up, if there's another MARVEL UNITED KS.
But if there is, thoughts on who it might center around?
They could still do it, it'd just end up being something like Future Foundation with sculpts inspired by those costumes, Spider-Man over Human Torch, and likely adding in a lot of Inhuman and Cosmic support to the game.
I wonder if they've ever thought for going for another IP for this game (still comic based). Would be dope to see things like IDW, Image, Boom!, and DC.
LunarSol wrote: I just wish I knew how Mother of Dragons worked in 1.7. I don't have any infantry for my Targs so I need to buy a unit to run Danny and I have no idea what to get.
Stormcrows would be a fluffy choice, but we've seen Bolton Blackguard spoiled and they seem like a good bunker unit thanks to their good armor and morale.
The 1.7 rules situation is certainly getting tiresome. They need to release all the units asap so people can actually play with fully updated factions.
LunarSol wrote: I just wish I knew how Mother of Dragons worked in 1.7. I don't have any infantry for my Targs so I need to buy a unit to run Danny and I have no idea what to get.
Just echoing the above that Stormcrows are very fluffy to run with Dany.
Fireball wrote: I am not getting any new ASOIAF products in Germany ... not one attachment box ... no Rose Knights ... no nothing
Rose Knights and R'hllor Faithful just got restocked on the Asmodee store and they're appearing back in the US again. I don't imagine Europe is further behind.
But yes, the stock issues are going to kill this game more than anything else.
Due to a paper shortage in China, the song of ice and fire revamp physical card packs have been delayed so they are moving ahead with a digital release so that people can start using them straight away.
The 1.6 units will remain in the non-test version of the app until the card packs are released to give players the option of what version of the game they wish to play.
Nice, might be the excuse I need to finally get my Daario painted up.
Just happy to see the new cards and rules finally being rolled out, there is a very dedicated community for the game that has been waiting a fair while.
Lots of great changes to tactics cards from what I can tell. Even some changes since they were spoiled during the visions in the flames series of articles.
For example, the FreeFolk deck looks much more useable, and it looks like Lannisters got toned down just a bit.
I'm very hopeful that this edition will take the game from great to god-tier.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: So a kickstarter to advertise a product already in production and on it's way to retail perhaps?
My cynical bet is that it's another Kickstarter that will launch soon so that they can capitalize on the Army of the Dead movie hype right now and gather lots of backers as pre-order jackpot.
I hope only a third of the rules on each page of the rulebook are printed in focus on each page to give you cinematic feel of the film and its six inch depth of field.
Yeah, I like her as an actress even though she basically only ever plays herself whether she's in a zombie movie or future dystopian apocalype scifi like modern Star Trek. She's kind of like Sofia Vergara in that regard.
Always like a good elephant. I wonder if the Golden Company will be a decent enough core to start a neutral army, like the Boltons. That might get me into the game.
Gallahad wrote: Those are listed for 2022, so it makes me wonder what the rest of 2021 holds!
The lack of Thorn Watch and the leaked Riders of Highgarden do make me wonder if there's stuff for the end of 2021/early 2022 we haven't seen. No Neutral Heroes 3 is also surprising when we're getting a lot of Golden Company stuff. Obviously there's the infamous Night's Watch Heroes 2 and presumably Free Folk Heroes 2 that needs to slot in somewhere too. I remember Michael being very insistent NWH2 never actually went up pre-order, it was just retailers doing so because the sculpts had been previewed.
Gallahad wrote: Those are listed for 2022, so it makes me wonder what the rest of 2021 holds!
The lack of Thorn Watch and the leaked Riders of Highgarden do make me wonder if there's stuff for the end of 2021/early 2022 we haven't seen. No Neutral Heroes 3 is also surprising when we're getting a lot of Golden Company stuff. Obviously there's the infamous Night's Watch Heroes 2 and presumably Free Folk Heroes 2 that needs to slot in somewhere too. I remember Michael being very insistent NWH2 never actually went up pre-order, it was just retailers doing so because the sculpts had been previewed.
Ooh, I didn't know the Thorn Guard got leaked. Are the riders of Highgarden a Renly Baratheon unit too?
It makes sense those would come out as Renly only has Rose Knights as his faction specific unit.
Gallahad wrote: Those are listed for 2022, so it makes me wonder what the rest of 2021 holds!
The lack of Thorn Watch and the leaked Riders of Highgarden do make me wonder if there's stuff for the end of 2021/early 2022 we haven't seen. No Neutral Heroes 3 is also surprising when we're getting a lot of Golden Company stuff. Obviously there's the infamous Night's Watch Heroes 2 and presumably Free Folk Heroes 2 that needs to slot in somewhere too. I remember Michael being very insistent NWH2 never actually went up pre-order, it was just retailers doing so because the sculpts had been previewed.
Ooh, I didn't know the Thorn Guard got leaked. Are the riders of Highgarden a Renly Baratheon unit too?
It makes sense those would come out as Renly only has Rose Knights as his faction specific unit.
Apparently a bunch of playtesting cards were leaked. Confirmed the Thorn Gu- uhh, Watch as being crossbowmen and the Riders who are indeed a Renly unit. With Pikemen it rounds out both brothers getting three additional loyal units.
Sacredroach wrote: My buddy is patiently waiting for Dorne to make an appearance...
Him and a lot of people it seems. If I had to guess, I'd put Martells landing mid to late 2022 based on Covid/Asmodee's usual incompetence delaying Greyjoys from the end of 2020 to the middle of 2021.
EDIT: Next KS confirmed as Masters of the Universe
There is a reveal stream for the next KS today at 2PM EST (7PM BST)
This popped up on Youtube - so I'm guessing the 2 are related and they reference Revelations so they probably want to run it at the same time for publicity - remember CMON have the rights for North America and Archon for Europe so expect region restrictions.
I am not sure if I am right on this, but If I understand from reading the design notes, it's going to be an adventure-type game, something like Monolith's Conan game. Select a scenario, each with location and victory requirements. Then choose the heroes you want to use then use their powers and abilities in an RPG light style game.
While the Polish version is sounding like a He-man branded version of a pandemic where your heroes travel to the location on the map and try to fight the evil in that location.
Genoside07 wrote: I am not sure if I am right on this, but If I understand from reading the design notes, it's going to be an adventure-type game, something like Monolith's Conan game. Select a scenario, each with location and victory requirements. Then choose the heroes you want to use then use their powers and abilities in an RPG light style game. While the Polish version is sounding like a He-man branded version of a pandemic where your heroes travel to the location on the map and try to fight the evil in that location.
You choose your faction (good or evil), choose your scenario then play against an overlord. There's a solo/co-op version too. But Monolith's Conan/Batman might be a close comparison. We'll have to see how the rules actually look.
We previously spoke on this subject (Article 4, to be precise) but just to recap: A unique aspect of the game is that the roles of the Controller and Player Characters can be interchanged. What this means is that the forces of the Heroic Warriors (He-Man, Man-At-Arms, etc) and the Evil Warriors (Skeletor, Evil-Lyn, etc) aren’t limited to one side. When setting up the game, the Players and Controller can elect which group they will individually control- If the players want to band together as the Heroic Warriors and put a stop to Skeletor’s dastardly schemes, they absolutely can… But if they want to take on the nefarious role of the villains, rampaging across Eternia instead, then that’s also an option. In the later scenario the Controller would then end up playing as the combined forces of the Heroic Warriors (and their Eternian allies).
We’re afraid we have some bad news for backers in Norway. Recent changes in Norway legislation have created severe difficulties for us to deliver pledges to the countries in our recent campaigns. Due to the value of the goods shipped we’re unable to register to the VOEC scheme, and for this reason our packages are suffering harsh impediments to cross the border, being held in customs for large periods of time and still eventually being returned.
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My copy of Ankh arrived last week BTW. Haven't had a chance to get a look inside yet (I know, I know, what's wrong with me) but it's a good indication that CMON are still healthy and functional, despite a few worries about accounts.
I wish we could get some updates on the ASoIaF updated card packs.
I am still livid that they sold me $200+ worth of fancy foil cards knowing they were outright rebooting every card in the game, and yet now if I want to play I am using ugly home-made print outs glued to Magic cards...
First impressions of the core game box for Ankh (haven't looked at the stretch goal box yet, which is just as big).
I think overall the components are similar quality to Rising Sun and Blood Rage. I do feel like the human-sized minis in Blood Rage were significantly better than those in either of the sequels, but that's probably OK. Mostly we buy these for the gameplay and the big monsters. Big monsters and gods are nice -- no bent weapons, which is a bonus. Some mold line cleanup will be required but nothing egregious. The giant scorpions with pharoah-style sarcophagi inside them are wonderfully creepy. You could definitely use a lot of this in an Egyptian-themed undead army or indeed just an Egyptian-themed army. That said, OTHER than the giant scorpions, not a lot of this is making me go "wow" out loud right now; whereas for me, most of the Blood Rage minis were "wow", and quite a lot of the Rising Sun big minis.
I've not played yet but a quick look at the rules suggests this has a lot of promise, and will play quite differently to its spiritual forebears. If Blood Rage was a Viking-themed re-imagining of Chaos In The Old World (and I certainly bought it as such, and was not disappointed), and Rising Sun was a Japanese-themed successor to Blood Rage that added in mechanics for formally making and breaking alliances (ditto), then this is, what, well. It's an Eric Lang game. It's probably simpler than Rising Sun. It's about gods battling not for territory (as in the previous two, at least to some extent) but for followers; for the hearts and minds of the people of Egypt. The mythological aspects are very strong, as is the understanding of how Egyptian cults seem to have functioned, and changed over the centuries. I think this will be at least as strongly themed as either of the others, and a little more strategic if anything: there doesn't appear to be any randomness other than in determining 1st player.
This also stands out for coming with 10 different scenarios, which look like they will play out quite differently.
Looking forward to giving it a shot!
EDIT: Opened the "Tomb of Wonders" KS stretch goals box too. There's some nice big critters in here, especially if you love crocodiles, and WHO DOES NOT LOVE CROCODILES. There's plastic playing pieces to replace some of the counters in the base game. There's not a whole lot of rules content -- a couple of gods who play differently to the core 5, some new guardians, etc., but I doubt there's going to be any major game-changers. Nice to have a bit of extra choice for when the core box gets stale, if it does, I guess? But it looks very like you can buy the retail box and still get huge value, especially if your main aim is to play some sweet Eric Lang games.
Silenced Men and Karstarks look great. I think the latter especially really highlight how far the sculpts have come since Stark Sworn Swords.
Thorn Watch look... okay? I'd need to see them painted, but the oddly modern-vibe to the art aren't doing them any favours.
Clegane Brigands look very ragtag, which whilst suitable clashes with the usual Lannister uniformity. Again I'd need to see them painted to have a strong opinion.
Totally agree that the ASOIAF models really have improved over time and I already like them from the start. The slight scale issues (e.g. compare some NW unit models with Baratheon Heroes) are the only complaint I have, but the details are always awesome.
From the previews I like the Karstark Spearmen the most, from a heroes perspective of course Coldhands on the Elk is awesome.
lord marcus wrote: I'm definitely interested in the silenced men, the baratheons, and all of that preorder stuff listed previously (golden company, etc)
Granted, I use AsoIAF minis for AoS with conversion and re-basing, so your mileage will vary to mine.
Now if I could just find a stockist in the US that keeps decent stock at decent prices.
Miniature Market will probably be the best bet. As they are constantly buying all the trash that CMoN is willing to part with, I think they are getting first dibs on any good items as well. Plus they have a community of ASOIAF that play at their Manchester store.
lord marcus wrote: I'm definitely interested in the silenced men, the baratheons, and all of that preorder stuff listed previously (golden company, etc)
Granted, I use AsoIAF minis for AoS with conversion and re-basing, so your mileage will vary to mine.
Now if I could just find a stockist in the US that keeps decent stock at decent prices.
Miniature Market will probably be the best bet. As they are constantly buying all the trash that CMoN is willing to part with, I think they are getting first dibs on any good items as well. Plus they have a community of ASOIAF that play at their Manchester store.
I buy a lot of stuff from MM, but I don't do them for Ice and Fire, they don't even give you a full 20% off. Game Nerdz and Boardlandia are who I use. Really, it's good to price check MM no matter what the product, their discounts are rarely the best.
I love the new Karstark spearmen, I wish the game featured more commoner units. The Baratheon starter set has 48 troops who are all more heavily armored than most any knight in The War of the Roses, I think it's a little overboard.
lord marcus wrote: I'm definitely interested in the silenced men, the baratheons, and all of that preorder stuff listed previously (golden company, etc)
Granted, I use AsoIAF minis for AoS with conversion and re-basing, so your mileage will vary to mine.
Now if I could just find a stockist in the US that keeps decent stock at decent prices.
Miniature Market will probably be the best bet. As they are constantly buying all the trash that CMoN is willing to part with, I think they are getting first dibs on any good items as well. Plus they have a community of ASOIAF that play at their Manchester store.
I buy a lot of stuff from MM, but I don't do them for Ice and Fire, they don't even give you a full 20% off. Game Nerdz and Boardlandia are who I use. Really, it's good to price check MM no matter what the product, their discounts are rarely the best.
I love the new Karstark spearmen, I wish the game featured more commoner units. The Baratheon starter set has 48 troops who are all more heavily armored than most any knight in The War of the Roses, I think it's a little overboard.
MM is just around the corner from my house, so I lose out on ordering stuff from them because I have to pay the local taxes to boot. The nice thing is they are usually in stock and since they carry so many ranges I can get most everything I need/want. Plus they have sales whenever the MAPP pricing is lifted (or on Amnesty days) and you can get some good deals then. Also their store always has dinged and dented boxes from shipping which are usually 40-60% off because the cardboard box is damaged, but those are in store only specials.
ASoIaF is a weird one for me. The sculpts are pretty good, but let down by the PVC. At the same time, there's so faceless nobodies to the game that I'm not sure I'd actually WANT them to be detailed, as I can pretty quickly paint anything to a reasonable standard without a lot of fuss.
LunarSol wrote: ASoIaF is a weird one for me. The sculpts are pretty good, but let down by the PVC. At the same time, there's so faceless nobodies to the game that I'm not sure I'd actually WANT them to be detailed, as I can pretty quickly paint anything to a reasonable standard without a lot of fuss.
Have you seen any of the newer releases in hand? They have improved a lot over the initial Kickstarter batch of Stark and Lannister stuff.
LunarSol wrote: ASoIaF is a weird one for me. The sculpts are pretty good, but let down by the PVC. At the same time, there's so faceless nobodies to the game that I'm not sure I'd actually WANT them to be detailed, as I can pretty quickly paint anything to a reasonable standard without a lot of fuss.
Have you seen any of the newer releases in hand? They have improved a lot over the initial Kickstarter batch of Stark and Lannister stuff.
Absolutely. Just got Mother of Dragons not too long ago along with some of the other new NW and Targ releases. They're perfectly serviceable, but none of them stand out as anything I care to display. They're just typical PVC, though I do appreciate that the weapons aren't at all bendy and really help give the big blocks of troops are sharp look.
LunarSol wrote: ASoIaF is a weird one for me. The sculpts are pretty good, but let down by the PVC. At the same time, there's so faceless nobodies to the game that I'm not sure I'd actually WANT them to be detailed, as I can pretty quickly paint anything to a reasonable standard without a lot of fuss.
Have you seen any of the newer releases in hand? They have improved a lot over the initial Kickstarter batch of Stark and Lannister stuff.
Absolutely. Just got Mother of Dragons not too long ago along with some of the other new NW and Targ releases. They're perfectly serviceable, but none of them stand out as anything I care to display. They're just typical PVC, though I do appreciate that the weapons aren't at all bendy and really help give the big blocks of troops are sharp look.
I think they are a notch above typical PVC, but tastes vary! For my level of painting they are a godsend. Individually they aren't resin/boutique plastic level, but they compare favorably to mass market plastics like Frostgrave and Oathmark.
I definitely agree they aren't as good as GW plastics, but I'd say they are 70% as good at a third the price, so they work for me.
Not trying to convince you of anything, just offering an alternative perspective for those that haven't seen them. The ABS weapons and slightly larger scale really do set them above typical KS big name PVC minis imo, but I agree they aren't display pieces.
They are definitely better than most PVC. CMON is probably the best in that particular business. It's just still PVC though which I rarely find impressive, but certainly functional for games with a large number of models. Like I said, I wouldn't want to be painting a super detailed horde of NW Brothers (though the Sword Bros are very nice, fwiw) but I do find myself disappointed that the quality of iconic characters isn't a little higher.
Zombicide Ghostbusters set images doing the rounds on BGG and Reddit. These might be show exclusives hopefully they get the TMNT treatment release wise.
I missed any leak that mentioned new starter sets, and haven't seen it talked about on forums when it would be relevant.
Interesting to think about, could they try to get away from that over-sized, under-selling starter box by not making it anymore? And if they did would Lannisters or Starks sell very well individually either? I suppose if you made new 3 new units for each, and then used that as a way to get their releases into stores, it might work well, the many individual unit boxes all coming out for 7 different factions are kind of clogging up shelves.
frankelee wrote: I missed any leak that mentioned new starter sets, and haven't seen it talked about on forums when it would be relevant.
Interesting to think about, could they try to get away from that over-sized, under-selling starter box by not making it anymore? And if they did would Lannisters or Starks sell very well individually either? I suppose if you made new 3 new units for each, and then used that as a way to get their releases into stores, it might work well, the many individual unit boxes all coming out for 7 different factions are kind of clogging up shelves.
Is it underselling? I see it go on sale on Black Fridays and such, but stock seems to shift a good bit when looking at numbers on various sites and the contents are the most common thing I see on 'my first painted ASOIAF models' posts.
Assuming it's not new units, I'd guess the dedicated starter sets would have updated sculpts - compare Karstark Spearmen to Sworn Swords and how far the models have come - whilst the existing SvL box remains at it's current price point, but is stuck with the current ones.
lord marcus wrote: I'm definitely interested in the silenced men, the baratheons, and all of that preorder stuff listed previously (golden company, etc)
Granted, I use AsoIAF minis for AoS with conversion and re-basing, so your mileage will vary to mine.
Now if I could just find a stockist in the US that keeps decent stock at decent prices.
Miniature Market will probably be the best bet. As they are constantly buying all the trash that CMoN is willing to part with, I think they are getting first dibs on any good items as well. Plus they have a community of ASOIAF that play at their Manchester store.
I buy a lot of stuff from MM, but I don't do them for Ice and Fire, they don't even give you a full 20% off. Game Nerdz and Boardlandia are who I use. Really, it's good to price check MM no matter what the product, their discounts are rarely the best.
I love the new Karstark spearmen, I wish the game featured more commoner units. The Baratheon starter set has 48 troops who are all more heavily armored than most any knight in The War of the Roses, I think it's a little overboard.
MM has been horrible with preorders of all kind. ASOIAF my last order was about 4 months behind the release or so (barathon heros 1 and 2) and my Mother of dragons and attachments were rediculously long. Same goes for their Star Wars Legion, Marvel Crisis Protocol and Fallout Wasteland Warfare. I had to stop ordering from them because I have like 6 orders pending items still and that was after 6 months they canceled one item. Their business and customer online support sucks recently. I have asked them to redo orders just to get something shipped as they had parts of 12 orders of mine just pending some for almost a year after release just waiting for an item. They need to fix their orders or let you modify them or something. It is like they sit in limbo until you contact them and cancel some stuff just to get some stuff shipped.
Gamenerdz is no better. I can honestly say it is getting really hard to find an online place who can even do any type of preorder.
That reminds me that I have a MM order that’s been waiting almost two years. While it contains some CMON stuff, I’m pretty sure the problem is a Shadows of Brimstone item. Seems like everyone is having trouble getting product to stores.
Oh, and my Ankh pledged arrived. It’s glorious! The gods and monsters came out really well, and the humans are about the same quality as the Rising Sun minis, which makes me happy. Well, except for this guy:
Gonna guess that CoVid's disrupted production of our non-essential plastic army men, and shipping has made cheap overseas labor not-so-cheap anymore. CMON continues to delay the PM for their Zombicide: Undead or Alive KS.
Congrats on the limited edition invisible figure, though.... :/
ced1106 wrote: Gonna guess that CoVid's disrupted production of our non-essential plastic army men, and shipping has made cheap overseas labor not-so-cheap anymore. CMON continues to delay the PM for their Zombicide: Undead or Alive KS.
Congrats on the limited edition invisible figure, though.... :/
Asmodee was notorious for this even before Covid. I feel like we'd be having exactly the same discussion about distributing whether or not a certain virus hit or not.
frankelee wrote: I missed any leak that mentioned new starter sets, and haven't seen it talked about on forums when it would be relevant.
Interesting to think about, could they try to get away from that over-sized, under-selling starter box by not making it anymore? And if they did would Lannisters or Starks sell very well individually either? I suppose if you made new 3 new units for each, and then used that as a way to get their releases into stores, it might work well, the many individual unit boxes all coming out for 7 different factions are kind of clogging up shelves.
Is it underselling? I see it go on sale on Black Fridays and such, but stock seems to shift a good bit when looking at numbers on various sites and the contents are the most common thing I see on 'my first painted ASOIAF models' posts.
Assuming it's not new units, I'd guess the dedicated starter sets would have updated sculpts - compare Karstark Spearmen to Sworn Swords and how far the models have come - whilst the existing SvL box remains at it's current price point, but is stuck with the current ones.
Seeing it constantly be on deep discount is my main metric. Stuff that people claim is very popular and selling like hotcakes never seems to be on deep discount, and stuff I don't see people raving about sometimes is. If it don't work like that, well, I don't know. It was the Kickstarter product too, the biggest fans start off their gaming experience already owning it before they go into stores to get more.
While improved sculpts would be nice, I'm not sure I about the economic viability. They'd be asking people to buy the same thing over again, when likely they have enough as it is. Sort of like when they announced Legion would be changing to sprues one of the designers made it sound like they would be going back and redoing previous released units on sprues now and all the Legion Youtubers I had repeated this like it was going to happen, and I just thought there was no way. These products sell the most when they come out, after that sales fall to a trickle. Why spend all that money redoing tooling when you can make something new I don't have 4 units of already?
frankelee wrote: I missed any leak that mentioned new starter sets, and haven't seen it talked about on forums when it would be relevant.
Interesting to think about, could they try to get away from that over-sized, under-selling starter box by not making it anymore? And if they did would Lannisters or Starks sell very well individually either? I suppose if you made new 3 new units for each, and then used that as a way to get their releases into stores, it might work well, the many individual unit boxes all coming out for 7 different factions are kind of clogging up shelves.
Is it underselling? I see it go on sale on Black Fridays and such, but stock seems to shift a good bit when looking at numbers on various sites and the contents are the most common thing I see on 'my first painted ASOIAF models' posts.
Assuming it's not new units, I'd guess the dedicated starter sets would have updated sculpts - compare Karstark Spearmen to Sworn Swords and how far the models have come - whilst the existing SvL box remains at it's current price point, but is stuck with the current ones.
Seeing it constantly be on deep discount is my main metric. Stuff that people claim is very popular and selling like hotcakes never seems to be on deep discount, and stuff I don't see people raving about sometimes is. If it don't work like that, well, I don't know. It was the Kickstarter product too, the biggest fans start off their gaming experience already owning it before they go into stores to get more.
During the height of it's popularity I got Gloomhaven for under $90 on MM. Sometimes it's about having a loss leader to pull people into your sale. Something needs to be pretty desirable for that to work.
Popular unit boxes have sold through multiple waves.
The starter shows up cheap occasionally because they gave away a bunch of boxes at some convention to get things kicked off. I rarely see the starter for less than $100 USD shipped these days.
You can occasionally get them for less on eBay, but not at retail.
This really is a game more people should try. The range is pretty large, and you rarely have to go more than 6 months without something being released for your army.
I've seen the starter go for around £75 on Black Fridays, but never any lower than £90 normally. Most sites are still floating the £100-£120 range.
The unit boxes that you get in faction starters (Sworn Swords, Guardsmen, Wardens, Screamers, etc) tend to have discounts during sales events, but anything you have to buy outside of it I pretty much never see on a discount sale. The initial first wave of a new release always seems to sell out very reliably, which is both a blessing and a curse when Asmodee's horrific distribution means things like Rose Knights are only just coming back in stock almost exactly a year later.
Yeah, it looked like a huge castle on the original toy box art, but really was a two story townhouse for action figures. But you know, power of imagination and all that.
That's a good call on Heroscape, I wonder if this game will take from that at all, just given how beloved it was by its fans.
Received my replacement Zombicide Zombies & companions Upgrade Kit today.
Unfortunately the new set of cards have also been cut significantly off centre. The issue isn't quite as bad as last time and at least no cards haven't torn due to poor cutting. At least these are usable if I sleeve my cards in opaque sleeves.
Here is a preview of the He-Man game revealed today at On the Table Gaming, which is a small channel that does a lot of CMON videos. Goes over the basic idea of the game, which is that it's a hex map skirmish game where each side beats each other up.
came here to post the youtube video but instead will post an image. Totally looks like you could use heroscape terrain for this. And sadly I sold mine to a buddy only a few months ago.
What Monkeysloth said. Also you're probably going to get way more minis with CMON, though I liked Archon Studios sculpts a little more. And having to probably pay $100 to use a shipping service to get the game not licensed to your part of the world seems like a big con for whichever one that is.
I didn't even realize Quackalope did a video today too. We can put up the link for that. In case anyone actually wants to watch several hours of He-Man content.
DaveC wrote: CMON 20th anniversary gift box $100 limited to 300 - no chance at that price but may be some collectors might be interested
Featuring a CMON branded face mask, a 1000 piece puzzle and drink coasters featuring Adrian Smith's art from Rising Sun, stickers and playing cards featuring art from Cthulhu: Death May Die, and seven unique pins!
Wow. Ya. $100 for a bunch of pins and the other stuff is probably fair but you'd really have to love those games for it to be worth it.
> Also you're probably going to get way more minis with CMON, though I liked Archon Studios sculpts a little more.
Yep. I have both CMON and Archon miniatures, and, while both are fine for boardgamers, Archon's plastic quality is better. CMON's miniatures will be pre-assembled, and probably monopose. Essentially, CMON knows its primary audience will still be boardgamers, who don't want to assemble stuff, nor are assumed to paint it. (Not that too many interested in the He-Man boardgames will have the luxury of choosing between the two versions...).
Army of the Dead will be a retail release no KS no date yet game design is done but production has to happen.
Ghostbusters is the first of a few crossover packs it will go on limited preorder very “soon” no date given. Slimmer is a companion goes to whoever has food.
Thundercats are for Zombicide (2nd edition). They mentioned that while Ghostbusters has 1st edition support they are going to phase that out as 2nd edition is the focus now not sure when though.
Also in other news CMON have dropped their own pledge manger and will be using Backerkit in future
Has anybody got any info on UK release dates for the Greyjoy miniatures?
I grabbed a starter box a few weeks ago and I managed to get a game in yesterday, but I'd really like some more bows and a unit of ironmakers to play a 40 point game. I've seen several pics on reddit of painted ironmakers (one as old as 3 months ago) but they're still only showing as available for pre-order or as unavailable in the UK stores.
The Black Adder wrote: Has anybody got any info on UK release dates for the Greyjoy miniatures?
I grabbed a starter box a few weeks ago and I managed to get a game in yesterday, but I'd really like some more bows and a unit of ironmakers to play a 40 point game. I've seen several pics on reddit of painted ironmakers (one as old as 3 months ago) but they're still only showing as available for pre-order or as unavailable in the UK stores.
The ASoiF releases really seem to have dried up in the UK, nothing new for about 8 weeks now, just a few restocks. Hopefully they will pick up again soon as we are currently falling quite far behind.
DaveC wrote: Thundercats are for Zombicide (2nd edition). They mentioned that while Ghostbusters has 1st edition support they are going to phase that out as 2nd edition is the focus now not sure when though.
Also in other news CMON have dropped their own pledge manger and will be using Backerkit in future
Hmmm, a gaming company that has actually realized when it comes to IT, hiring a secondary company who knows what they're doing and will do it for a reasonable price is preferable to thinking you can build it yourself and save a couple nickels, until of course there's a problem and you have to pay a secondary IT company to fix it anyway?
The ASoiF releases really seem to have dried up in the UK, nothing new for about 8 weeks now, just a few restocks. Hopefully they will pick up again soon as we are currently falling quite far behind.
Thanks. I didn't realise it was that bad. I guess it's not just the greyjoys waiting on releases then. Hopefully things get better but I was reading that they've had troubles providing updates due to a paper shortage too, so I guess any improvements won't necessarily be quick.
Last day of the Miniature Market sale. Free Folk spotted at 1/3 off. If any of you remember the CMON / Micro Arts studio sculpted bases, they're at a deep discount. :
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> You know that farm that CMoN said they took Dark Age to? Well...
There was a shed in the back and several shots were fired???
Well, that's two out of two dead CMON lines I mentioned, someone said otherwise, and I was right.
Anyway, regarding any PM, wait and read the comments for any common issues that crop up. CMON's using a different PM, and a common issue is that it's not obvious what to do if you want to change your pledge, and that you cannot add to or otherwise your pledge in the PM once it's closed. To change your pledge, it's not obvious, but click on your pledge level on the first page of the PM to change it. I suppose you could contact CMON support to reopen a pledge, though.
And, fwiw, I saw a few Dark Age models and Wrath of Kings models on sale at the last Miniature Market sale. WoK prices seem to be going up in the sales, and I'm not seeing the starters there at the same price I paid for, or at all.
And, not related, but FFG's Armada no longer has new models made for the game line, although FFG says it will support them with "reprinting previous releases, and also supporting organized play."
DaveC wrote: Thundercats are for Zombicide (2nd edition). They mentioned that while Ghostbusters has 1st edition support they are going to phase that out as 2nd edition is the focus now not sure when though.
I suppose it was foolish to assume that this trend would continue forever, but at least the Ghostbusters stuff will get 1st Ed rules.
> Looks like CMoN is getting into the money laundering game by starting a NFT platform.
Oboy. More digital content I don't want to go along with that electronic Zombicide game that I'm not buying, either.
Yeah, I get it that CMON's looking for revenue that's outside of China's supply chain and shipping problems, but there's a good reason I'm dropping $150 on a zombie boardgame and waiting a year for it, when I could be dropping $15 on a zombie videogame and download it right now. (And if that game is Zomboid, I'm getting a penny back.)
Unfortunately, I'm gonna admit that I can't think of anything better. At best, a CYOA Zombicide game that can play solo and doesn't require much setup, but still requires physical components available at local stores to keep CMON sales. (I call this "painting at a dedicated paint desk" but this could be still be an app or something...). EDIT: CMON could scan their OOP miniatures and create Dark Age .stl's...
I legit have no idea what "non-fungible tokens" or "digital collectables" means in the context of my boardgaming/wargaming hobby, and why I should be...excited? ...should I be excited? ...that CMON is trying to bring blockchain into said hobby.
Psychopomp wrote: I legit have no idea what "non-fungible tokens" or "digital collectables" means in the context of my boardgaming/wargaming hobby, and why I should be...excited? ...should I be excited? ...that CMON is trying to bring blockchain into said hobby.
The snarky response is that you pay a ton of money to get a receipt showing that you own the original image (NFT) in question. Naturally, you can't physically hold the image, and copies of it are everywhere. But guess what! You have a piece of paper showing that you legally own the original image.
Non-snarky response: pretty much the same as the snarky response. You get the legal ownership of the original image in question, and all the rights accorded with that ownership, including in most cases, any income involved with the ongoing display/use of the image.
Unless it is a Banksy piece, I cannot image any form of status that owning the original image would bring...T-Shirt and poster production maybe?
It's not limited to images. People want to attach it to any bit of data they want to introduce artificial scarcity to. They want to make sure they can have Kickstarter exclusive digital content and NFT's are currently the "so hot we'll burn down the rainforest to compile them" way of generating security that makes people feel like they got something unique or limited edition or whatever.
> Thank you. Now I can sure that I have a complete lack of interest!
I keep thinking of that Cosmic Encounter boardgame power, The Fungus, when I read non-fungible tokens. Anyway, for those who have an incomplete lack of interest here's how Steam (the videogame guys) do it. Apparently, if you work hard enough, you can make tens of cents selling them on the marketplace (although, given the price of Steam videogames on sale, that can still mean a "free" game . Of course, if CMON ties in physical content to the virtual trading cards like they did with the CMON comics...
With only half their market available to purchase He-Man, I wonder how well the project will do. It seems like 10-15k backers are the best they'll be able to do.
Also it's always hard to tell if you're dealing with a 150 miniatures for your 100 bucks 'mega-blow-out-buy-it-now' CMON campaign, or a Trudvangesque, we got 80 minis and we'll write the rulebook later, campaign. But that will definitely be a big factor in how well it does.
Look like it will outsell Archon's which ended at about what CMoN's current backer and earning amount is right now.
I'm sure neither were happy about the regional restrictions. The games are different enough they easily could have both done world wide and even done a cross over pack. I think fans would have eaten that up.
Behold the All-In Gameplay and All-In For Real Pledges!
The core pledge is $110 and comes with 79 miniatures and 18 terrain pieces, and rising. They just released an 8 mini He-Man stretch goal that really padded those mini numbers, and if they follow it up with 8 mini Skeletors it'll pad it even further. So, not incredible value from a plastic perspective, but you do get all* your favorite He-Man action figures as plastic minis to bash each other.
*They're still missing some big ones but probably they'll be in the stretch goals.
frankelee wrote: The He-Man campaign has reached it's final 48 hours. For all the hype it felt like this one got, it's proven to be a rather minor affair.
Most larger CMON KS draw in low to mid 20,000 backers this ones approaching 6,500 the licensing has obviously blocked a good portion of their regular backers.
In the end I couldn’t back either MoTU projects Archon didn’t even get a full European license probably just as well as somewhere between the 2 is the game I’d be interested in but I wouldn’t go in for both.
Didn't see it mentioned here, so just for awareness
From the CMON Facebook page on September 29
If there's something spooky in your neighborhood - let's say some zombies... Are you gonna call 911? No!
Introducing the Limited Edition Ghostbusters packs for Zombicide Modern! Quantities are limited, and preorder bundles with special prices start on Tuesday October 5th at 3 pm EST. Stay tuned for more information!
Curious reference to a special price for preorders. Personally I would have assumed there was only the one opportunity for purchase/preorder, making the "special price" the only price. Was there excess stock leftover for the TMNT promos, or did they only make what was ordered in the BackerKit?
And it's not something we didn't already know, but damn, that content split is irksome. I'd imagine the overwhelming majority of customers like myself always intended to get the full collection anyway, but splitting the team in two like that just seems a ridiculous thing to do for the people who only want the Ghostbusters themselves
Yep only way to get them same as TMNT which was only through Backerkit as well. It’s a limited run no retail release.
No prices yet but I’d expect $25 per pack like TMNT and $15 to $20 for Stay Puft. They mentioned a bundle so small discount for buying the set. Plus international shipping for TMNT was $25. Add VAT or sales tax if applicable could be looking at $100 to $110 for the set.
Hmm... attempting to send the survey via the link says "We don't know who the feth you are!", but at the same time I was able to log into backetkit using the same E-mail.
Confusing. I need ghosts and the busters thereof. I hope their screwy E-mail system doesn't slime me.
The IDW webstore did end up with the left over TMNT stock about 6 months later last time (better shipping for Europe but no guarentee they will do that again this time around).
H.B.M.C. wrote: Hmm... attempting to send the survey via the link says "We don't know who the feth you are!", but at the same time I was able to log into backetkit using the same E-mail.
Confusing. I need ghosts and the busters thereof. I hope their screwy E-mail system doesn't slime me.
It won’t be live for another 9 hours so you shouldn’t be able to access the survey yet.
Some previewers received a non-zombie version. Looks like it’s just a hand and right hand swap, so hopefully those parts are interchangeable and you don’t need to buy two entire models.
- Adapted version of the Zombicide rules - most standard rules some adapted for the setting. Guillotine Games consulted for updates.
- Play as the Marvel Zombies - complete objectives, eat civilians, fight living heroes.
- Hordes - Agents of Shield - AoS Troopers (Walkers), AoS Specialist (Runner) and AoS Guards Heavy Armour (Fatty/Brutes)
- Abomination stand ins - Uninfected super heroes - more frequent spawns - unique powers, variable toughness, not as difficult to deal with as regular Zc Abominations. Some can interact with Shield agents.
- Doc Strange - mobile spawn point for agents
- Sculpts by Big Child Creative, Studio McVey and various freelancers
- full scenic bases for the heroes
- Standard Zombicide miniature scale but 30mm bases
- Minis shown Zombie Captain America, Zombie Wasp, Spiderman, Doctor Strange, J Jonah Jameson, Sharon Carter, Zombie Hulk. Black Panther, Zombie Ironman, Zombie Deadpool, Scarlet Witch, Thor, Ms Marvel, Zombie Silver Surfer, Silver Surfer.
- Not set in any specific Marvel Zombies setting - can draw from all versions of Marvel Zombies
- Bystanders - Pepper Potts, Mary Jane, Aunt May, J Jonah Jameson. Sharon Crater etc. - interact with scenario may need to eat them, objectives, random spawn, can be escorted by AoS, gives unique upgrade when eaten, can fight back
- Mechanic changes - items - every hero has designated attacks, unique powers on level up, all built in and printed on card - so they don't pick up weapons, draw infected traits generic abilities - give boosts - quick lunge, extra movement etc. - limited use
- Hunger mechanic - driven by hunger - hunger meter - starts at 0 goes up each round that you don't eat - character gets stronger but if it gets to high (Ravenous) you lose control and must eat all actions dedicated to that and lose other abilities until you eat. Eating not an optimal play but needs to be done to keep character under control - can eat anyone
- Scarlet Witch can make you reroll successes, Ms Marvel multiple zone attack range
- Attacks - uses concentrated fire rules from Invader, Toughness from 1 to 5 - Thor 5 toughness, AoS 1, Brute 2. Stack bonuses to take down high toughness
- Tiles - classic New York setting, Avengers Tower, Wakanda Embassy, Sanctum Sanctorum, Oscorp, Daily Bugle
- Galactus - Living and Zombie version swap Head and Hand - is a functional game component, Galactus features in scenarios. Silver Surfer - eat him to get the power cosmic to fight Galactus - 2 versions of Silver Surfer - Living and Zombie.
- Galactus is KS exclusive optional own expansion - available from day 1
- KS early next year
- Can play as the Heroes as well
Makes sense to combine the two things that have reaped the most KS money, Zombicide and Marvel stuff. Not convinced it sounds like it really works tbh, but it will absolutely rake in the cash regardless.
BigOscar wrote: Makes sense to combine the two things that have reaped the most KS money, Zombicide and Marvel stuff. Not convinced it sounds like it really works tbh, but it will absolutely rake in the cash regardless.
Or sounds like someone at CMoN watched the last episode of the first season of "What If?" on Disney Plus.
Theophony wrote: Definitely far more tempting than the Chibi Marvel Heroes. I might have to get in on this one. I think my last KS with CMoN was Black Plague.....
Yep I am the same - be interested to see how many people we get and who. def ones I want and just as many I don't - no interest in anything Spiderman related or Galaticus - so might have some nice resales or give aways!
Might be interested depending on the fig scale and variety. Marvel Zombies was the era I was last into comics (albeit only by then getting trades eventually and not monthly floppies).
While I probably should not back this, I most likely will because I am a fan of Marvel, and I love the idea of playing zombies trying to eat the super heroes. And the rest of the town.
Yeah. Scale creep across the industry in general makes it not IMMEDIATELY obvious, but they're generally taller or roughly the same size as Primaris.
Don't fret though, they upscaled Heroclix so now they're right in line with MCP. Though they did that only a few sets ago, so you don't have a complete range to choose from yet.
(As an aside, I become a lay expert in model scale since there were always so many questions about it during Kickstarter campaigns, and Zombicide is a 32mm scale, way bigger than 25mm. I was just measuring some Deadeye Walkers I had out to paint, and standing straight up they'd be at least 36mm tall, 33mm to the eye.)
Starks are the army I like the least... based purely on how the units look. If they are resculpting the base stark units then I might pick them up.
As it is, I have both Tully units and the she-bears as I DO like them, The Tully Cavaliers are probably the best looking cavalry unit released so far. I also like the Karstark Spearmen... so I am debating.
I collect the Lannisters, the Baratheons, and all neutrals. I had the freefolk starter, but gave it to a friend to try and get someone to play with. It worked and he recently picked up the Main starter (Stark vs Lann) and the Greyjoy starter. But I have still never played a single game.
Edit. I was kind of jealous as he got the Stark vs Lannister starter for $40 on Black Friday.
I really hope that teased neutral infantry in plate armor is just like the hedge knights, neutral heavy infantry that are not a unique mercenary group would be so cool.
Midnightdeathblade wrote: I really hope that teased neutral infantry in plate armor is just like the hedge knights, neutral heavy infantry that are not a unique mercenary group would be so cool.
Yeah, that would be cool.
A retailer I know looked at the upcoming product codes, and says that he thinks they are actually the Golden Company, but I didn't quite follow his logic. We will see!
Either way, what we've seen of them is very promising.
There are pics of the new Lannister and Stark sculpts on Reddit. The lannisters look great, but the starks are really nice. I made have ti add the new stark starter after all.
I was already planning on getting the Lannister starter, but I dont actually need anything in it as I already have 3 guardsmen and 3 halberdiers...,
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