Just got my survey. Any body else notice the THI suits went down $5 in price?

About the surveys. As I'm filling it out I'm wondering if they're asking how many X, Y, Z I want to order on top of what I've already pledged. Is that how I should read it? Or is this the survey where I distribute my pledge money thoughout the extras?


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Yeah, down to $10.

Gah, if I had known THI suits were $10 a piece, I would have saved up some money for them

gunslingerpro wrote:Just got my survey. Any body else notice the THI suits went down $5 in price?

I'm sure we ALL noticed it. Probably a typo....

Oh nice on the THI, can upgrade to the we've got movement and still get three of them for what I had already figured I'd pay out.

It may be a Copy+Paste Error considering it's the only thing that's $15.

Yeah cmon have just posted that they goofed up and there suposed to be $15 tho the aphid suit and the knosis one are being reduced to $20 each. ..
Remember this one is just to give them a idea on how many of each product they need to start on.
And the later ckpm will be the one where you sort any extra payments etc.

Okay. Everything ordered and set up correctly. Man, this is going to be great to have all these shiny new figures.

Wow that survey is bad. Besides the suit prices, they forgot to add the price for the crabs (which we know) and they never say if we are supposed to enter the cost, or the quantity of the items.

I don't think this survey is binding and official.
It seems to be an initial survey to see the general numbers of things they will need to produce for the upcoming November releases.

The Late-July/Early-August survey that'll be sent out will be the binding and final one.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

CoolMiniOrNot wrote:
Oof made a goof on the THI suit, it should be $15. But the Gnosis and Aphids are reduced to $20.

Absolutionis wrote:I don't think this survey is binding and official.
It seems to be an initial survey to see the general numbers of things they will need to produce for the upcoming November releases.

The Late-July/Early-August survey that'll be sent out will be the binding and final one.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

No, I think you're right.

Which is good because:

zedmeister wrote:

CoolMiniOrNot wrote:
Oof made a goof on the THI suit, it should be $15. But the Gnosis and Aphids are reduced to $20.

when I saw the $10 price for the THI suits, I ordered extra!

hmmm.....haven't gotten mine yet

Mine only had the option to "upgrade to biohazard" I assume because I accidentally didn't select it originally and didn't realize it until today. Sadface. I sent them a message - maybe they'll still let me throw money at them for some of the upgrades.

I didn't see the THI price was a typo soon enough, so I ordered a bit more stuff. Damn >_<

Sacrificed a couple of THI suits to get some more characters!

Am I right in thinking that you need to buy at least one suit in order to receive the head so that Tank Girl can ride in a THI?

Now all I need to do is drum my fingers and wait for November to roll around!

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Oh nice on the THI, can upgrade to the we've got movement and still get three of them for what I had already figured I'd pay out.

Alpharius wrote:when I saw the $10 price for the THI suits, I ordered extra!

Erasoketa wrote:I didn't see the THI price was a typo soon enough, so I ordered a bit more stuff. Damn >_<

What if it wasn't a typo at all but a dastardly scheme to pull a few extra dollars out of backers.

We were meant to just put in 1's? Right?

So as a newbie, I am assuming that this is the preemptive survey of what you figured you wanted with your initial pledge money, and the later CMON manager site they will launch is what you can use to buy additional product (paying the difference with PayPal)?

Hmm...today is the first time Ive actually looked at this...interesting. Might eventually pick up a copy of the game, always nice for some board game variety...

...but some of the individual minis really interest me for use with other things...like the big armored suits (TNI IIRC) and some of the character figs, especially the not-Riddick. SO the question is...will this stuff be available separate, or do you have to buy big expansion sets? (like the Doom board game)

Im sure its been answered, but I dont have the time to read 70+ pages of "im in" and "oh wow".

H.B.M.C. wrote:We were meant to just put in 1's? Right?

Reckon so, that's what I did

H.B.M.C. wrote:We were meant to just put in 1's? Right?

I think so. I did. Either we got it right or we'll be disappointed when miniature day comes...

So the original artwork for the Calamity crew had 4 characters. Now its only 2- Mal and Zoe. No River and no Jayne, evidently. Wow I feel ripped off.

Note, I understand there was likely some small print or something saying 2 models, but I didn't realize it, and was suckered by the artwork. Doesn't change that I feel very unhappy.

I'm still seeing the 4 characters.... I'm pretty sure they're all still in...

Gymnogyps wrote:So the original artwork for the Calamity crew had 4 characters. Now its only 2- Mal and Zoe. No River and no Jayne, evidently. Wow I feel ripped off.

Note, I understand there was likely some small print or something saying 2 models, but I didn't realize it, and was suckered by the artwork. Doesn't change that I feel very unhappy.

Uh, what?

Where are you getting information that you only get the original two? Have you some evidence to support the proposition that they are not following the terms of the $470k stretch goal?

Gymnogyps wrote:So the original artwork for the Calamity crew had 4 characters. Now its only 2- Mal and Zoe. No River and no Jayne, evidently. Wow I feel ripped off.

Note, I understand there was likely some small print or something saying 2 models, but I didn't realize it, and was suckered by the artwork. Doesn't change that I feel very unhappy.

They always were 2 characters. We got another 2 when we hit the stretch they were in. So 2+2=4

It is on the front page. But, they have the first two near the top, then the stretch goal, including the other two characters, waaayyyy down the page. Here I was thinking it would be summarized all in one place now that the fundraising is over...

Bacms wrote:

Gymnogyps wrote:So the original artwork for the Calamity crew had 4 characters. Now its only 2- Mal and Zoe. No River and no Jayne, evidently. Wow I feel ripped off.

Note, I understand there was likely some small print or something saying 2 models, but I didn't realize it, and was suckered by the artwork. Doesn't change that I feel very unhappy.

They always were 2 characters. We got another 2 when we hit the stretch they were in. So 2+2=4

Specifically detailed here.

Complete the crew of the Calamity! If we hit this stretch, Phoenix and Delta join the Cap in his (mis)-adventures on Alabaster Station! They'll ship the same time as the Captain and XO and are free with every set of the Mercenary Crew!

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Gymnogyps wrote:It is on the front page. But, they have the first two near the top, then the stretch goal, including the other two characters, waaayyyy down the page. Here I was thinking it would be summarized all in one place now that the fundraising is over...

To repeate myself, what are you talking about?


The optional load-outs look pretty up-to-date to me....

Buzzsaw, seriously, lay off the caffeine, buddy. Take a look at the main page.


"The crew of the Calamity never thought they'd get caught up in the going's on of a remote science station. Still, the take from handling the "special" cargo they hauled from that creepy moon made everything worth it. That and a bit of RnR on a cushy science facility with all the mod cons unavailable on a deep space freighter was a good morale booster for the crew.

Still, the crew has dealt with misfortune before, and they intend to get out of this bit of worry like they always do... intact, alive, and broke."

The Captain and his lovely XO will glady report for duty for paltry $20! Like the rest of the promo figures, please limit yourself to 3 each per Biohazard set you're pledging for. Ships in March 2013, unpainted and unassembled.

Gymnogyps wrote:Buzzsaw, seriously, lay off the caffeine, buddy. Take a look at the main page. ...

Not to belabor the point, but you realize to get to that part, you had to actually scroll past the updated image, right? It's literally the 3rd content image on the page.

In other words, your complaint that

It is on the front page. But, they have the first two near the top, then the stretch goal, including the other two characters, waaayyyy down the page. Here I was thinking it would be summarized all in one place now that the fundraising is over...

You wanted it summarized all in one place. Which it is. Which you had to scroll past (since it's at the top of the page) to get to the part that apparently misled you.

Also, you opened this with;

So the original artwork for the Calamity crew had 4 characters. Now its only 2- Mal and Zoe. No River and no Jayne, evidently. Wow I feel ripped off.

Note, I understand there was likely some small print or something saying 2 models, but I didn't realize it, and was suckered by the artwork. Doesn't change that I feel very unhappy.

Perhaps it's not caffeine, per se, that is affecting your judgement, but you might be in need of some...

Wow that has got to be the funniest thing I've seen on Dakka for a while. Bad day today for you, buddy?

Gymnogyps wrote:Wow that has got to be the funniest thing I've seen on Dakka for a while. Bad day today for you, buddy?

Uh huh...

You make a post talking about how "ripped off" and "unhappy" you are, which requires people to spoon-feed you the summary you managed to miss. This for you is... a good day?

Impressive. Just get out of the lab, Doctor?

Settle down guys!

G's confusion has been cleared up - I say it is a good day for all if us!

We need less fighting.

It's $20 for all 4 members of the Calamity Crew; shipping in 2013. Simple as that.

Alpharius wrote:when I saw the $10 price for the THI suits, I ordered extra!

Survey still lists suits at 10$, so I upped my order to 3. Wasn't aware of any possible typo until I read this thread. Still got no official info on that, we will see.

Mad4Minis wrote:

...but some of the individual minis really interest me for use with other things...like the big armored suits (TNI IIRC) and some of the character figs, especially the not-Riddick. SO the question is...will this stuff be available separate, or do you have to buy big expansion sets? (like the Doom board game)

The characters are all exclusive to this kickstarter. If you really wanted some I would recommend finding a pledger near you who can just tag on the models for you. The THI suits however will still be available afterwards. They are currently sold in metal and resin but this is the plastic set for sale.

Hope this clears everything up!

Well if the price doesn't change on the Suits (i.e. stays $10) then I'm in for 10 of them. They'll make amazing Ogryns for my IG. I also picked up another biohazard set, some extra calamity crew for gifts for my geek friends, and 2 more gnosis suits since they are so awesome looking. Here's hoping they have a sealed helmet option!

I'm getting 1 THI suit along with my Ridley and the Opticamo, but I am seriously thinking about getting another when the CMON manager goes live, but I dunno.

Originally I wanted them as power armored support for my vanguard, but I had forgotten that we all now get two of the tanks, as well as a Gnosis suit for a leader to be equipped with.


I'm still trying to find out whether Studio McVey will release the cards for minis that you can get as metal figs on their site. I could have a THI suit on the table at game-launch if I knew I could field one of the metal sculpts with a downloaded card.

Kroothawk wrote:

Alpharius wrote:when I saw the $10 price for the THI suits, I ordered extra!

Survey still lists suits at 10$, so I upped my order to 3. Wasn't aware of any possible typo until I read this thread. Still got no official info on that, we will see.

Over on the Studio McVey forums they showed an "oops" quote from CMON, they should be $15

However I think the survey is only used to populate the CKPM, so there will be a chance to "take back" your extra THI order...

AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm still trying to find out whether Studio McVey will release the cards for minis that you can get as metal figs on their site. I could have a THI suit on the table at game-launch if I knew I could field one of the metal sculpts with a downloaded card.

Mike has confirmed that all currently available minis will have stats for use ingame, including the current line of Vanguard soldiers (confirmed somewhere either in this thread or on the Kickstarter comments). As for when the stats are available, not sure.

Thats it, they are running this as per their Zombiecide KS. I received the final oprion manager email for that yesterday to finalise quantities and firm up on details and that's over a month since the KS closed.

So they have plenty of time to correct errors and we have plenty of time revise pledges/orders.

I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

Wasn't offered to the UK?

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

Not sure what you mean? I will have 2 sets come November

And I'm afraid that I think the rule was no promo figures unless you ordered a game...

Yeah, there's a $25 shipping charge bolted on but it's full available here and the RotW.

Im pretty sure Studio McVey will be selling it when the KS bit clears and hey have stock.

Am I right in saying its only the game that CmoN are producing, the Sedition wars line will continue to be from SM.

Yeap I've got a set coming. And the game is being sold from the mcvey site aswell as cmon.

Studio mcvey are going to be doing any further releases. But its possible that any large expansions will be produced alongside cmon.

The THI suit ist $15, but the prices for the other two suits are correct, they went down slightly.

That information is as official as it can be.

I for one would like to get a couple of extra squads of Vanguard, and Strain.

I put in for an extra Suit, and if its a litle extra, so be it.

The stuff is almost here.....

notprop wrote:Thats it, they are running this as per their Zombiecide KS. I received the final oprion manager email for that yesterday to finalise quantities and firm up on details and that's over a month since the KS closed.

So they have plenty of time to correct errors and we have plenty of time revise pledges/orders.

All the more time to convince myself that I need more suits. Must resist!

So, just to be certain, this survey out now is just to allocate pledge money? There will be another to add to the pledge?

General Seric wrote:So, just to be certain, this survey out now is just to allocate pledge money? There will be another to add to the pledge?

The survey that is out now is intended to judge demand (so they get and idea of what they have to actually make) the CMKPM thingy will let you manage your pledges add items (and pay for them using Paypal) and allocate your pledged dollars.

(I've determined this by reading the McVey forums ).

CURNOW wrote:Yeap I've got a set coming. And the game is being sold from the mcvey site aswell as cmon.

Studio mcvey are going to be doing any further releases. But its possible that any large expansions will be produced alongside cmon.

Did you mean to say Studio McVey aren't going to be doing any further releases?

No. Lol
Slipped a "any" in by mistake. (can't help it was eating my pasty )
Mike and Ali have a long list of future releases that are in the works. According to hints on the blog.

General Seric wrote:So, just to be certain, this survey out now is just to allocate pledge money? There will be another to add to the pledge?

Yes, that should be the case, IF they follow the "Zombicide" model they used before - and I imagine they will!

Hm. Looks like a small change to the limits on the character models. In the survey it says "limit 3 per box set" wheras it used to a flat limit of 3 per customer.

edit - speeling

Here's the latest update which aims to clear things up:

This is a general announcement.

There was a mistake in the survey with the THI suits erroneously listed at $10 rather than $15 (which is the correct pricing).

The survey will be used to populate our database, and you will receive an email confirmation with a link to the CoolMiniOrNot Kickstarter Pledge Manager (CKPM) later this month to confirm everything you've selected, as well as pay for any additional extras.

Please don't worry if you make a mistake on your survey, in the end it only matters if you are uncontactable by email. You will have ample opportunity to tweak to your heart's content later.

In summary, please don't send a message if it's about:
THI pricing (it's $15).
Survey errors or shipping info corrections - you can fix it later
Adding / paying for additional items / upgrading to Biohazard / Getting additional sets - you can add them later

Thank you for your attention.

scipio.au wrote:edit - speeling

Nice one

Commander Cain wrote:

Mad4Minis wrote:

...but some of the individual minis really interest me for use with other things...like the big armored suits (TNI IIRC) and some of the character figs, especially the not-Riddick. SO the question is...will this stuff be available separate, or do you have to buy big expansion sets? (like the Doom board game)

The characters are all exclusive to this kickstarter. If you really wanted some I would recommend finding a pledger near you who can just tag on the models for you. The THI suits however will still be available afterwards. They are currently sold in metal and resin but this is the plastic set for sale.

Hope this clears everything up!

Yes, perfect answer. Kinda a bummer on the characters, but I was most interested in the suits, so Im good to go.

Not seen these here yet. Box art and contents mock ups. And sample page from the rulebook.

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

I noticed FRPGames already has a pre-order page for the boxed set. I'm sure others will follow:

http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=86621

From the back of the Vanguard Trooper card, I think it says:

TRAIT
PROPHET ARMOR - Before applying damage reduce the staging of attacks against this model by 1
REFLEX TRIGGER - When an enemy model in the trooper's ??? moves, make a ranged attack against it

ABILITY
??? - Spend 1 tactic, this trooper can use its reflex ability twice during its next reflex ???

Looks nice, thanks for the pics!

coyotius wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

I noticed FRPGames already has a pre-order page for the boxed set. I'm sure others will follow:

http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=86621

Well as cmon have already stated that they wont supply the game to anyone who discounts it i dont think it will be that price

scipio.au wrote:Hm. Looks like a small change to the limits on the character models. In the survey it says "limit 3 per box set" wheras it used to a flat limit of 3 per customer.

edit - speeling

Always been 3 per box.

Slinky wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

Not sure what you mean? I will have 2 sets come November

And I'm afraid that I think the rule was no promo figures unless you ordered a game...

That certainly wasn't the rule when I subscribed. I would not have contributed otherwise.

Just wanted to let people know about some discussions that happened earlier on the McVey boards about the Bonecrabs;

Lugburz wrote:

The Drones and Bonecrabs may be available for sale later, but no decision has been taken at this time. It's quite likely though. The rest of the promo figs are one run only for this Kickstarter, and any remainder will only be available at conventions.

Although CMON left the possibility open ended, several people who contacted CMON during the KS campaign were told that the Bonecrabs would not be available later, only the drones. As it stands, I think the availability of these figures remains "to be determined", and I added the 'possibility' that the crabs were KS exclusives to my PSA if only to let people know they may/may-not be see again outside the pledge drive.

Emphasis in original.

So, if you are thinking that you may like to pick up the 'crabs at some point, it may behoove you to think about getting them now rather then later. Especially if the choice is between the 'crabs and something that you know is going to be made available later.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Slinky wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

Not sure what you mean? I will have 2 sets come November

And I'm afraid that I think the rule was no promo figures unless you ordered a game...

That certainly wasn't the rule when I subscribed. I would not have contributed otherwise.

The le resin kara is avalible to anyone. But the other special models are quarantine level or above only

CURNOW wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Slinky wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I hope they use some of the spare money to make the game more widely available.

I subscribed $25 for the Kara model only, because the game as a whole wasn't offered to the UK.

Not sure what you mean? I will have 2 sets come November

And I'm afraid that I think the rule was no promo figures unless you ordered a game...

That certainly wasn't the rule when I subscribed. I would not have contributed otherwise.

The le resin kara is avalible to anyone. But the other special models are quarantine level or above only

Not that this affects me, but are we going by the 3 per box set footnote on the image? Or was it stated somewhere else?

It was stated buy cmon and mike during the KS and since on a few differnt forums.

Kilkrazy wrote:That certainly wasn't the rule when I subscribed. I would not have contributed otherwise.

I think Slinky was getting confused between the $25 pledge level for the resin Kara (which I assume you're referring to), and being able to acquire the other LE character models, which are restricted by how many copies of the game you purchase.

Out of interest, KK, why didn't you think the game was available in the UK?

Dysartes wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:That certainly wasn't the rule when I subscribed. I would not have contributed otherwise.

I think Slinky was getting confused between the $25 pledge level for the resin Kara (which I assume you're referring to), and being able to acquire the other LE character models, which are restricted by how many copies of the game you purchase.

Out of interest, KK, why didn't you think the game was available in the UK?

Ah, you're right - I was thinking of the Kara in Gnosis suit for some reason

Project Update #57: Zombicide is on the water.

We just got some units airflown in, and what can we say, it's a beautiful game.

Everything else is on the water and should reach us in early August. Can't wait!

Ahh looks good. Gives us an idea what the sediton wars packs will be like.

While nice, I think Kroot had a few windows open at the same time and posted in the wrong thread?

Nope, since it is the "sister-game" so to speak we can see what is coming our way in November in a similar way.

What sort of colour schemes are people thinking of? At the moment I'm contemplating two different schemes for the Prophet armor: Apple white or N7/Colossus black and red.

AlexHolker wrote:What sort of colour schemes are people thinking of? At the moment I'm contemplating two different schemes for the Prophet armor: Apple white or N7/Colossus black and red.

At the moment I'm thinking Space Wolf grey, not 100% sure though...

Hmmm 100 or so models here to add to the 100 or so models im gettin with Zombiecide; Silly Alex, these models will never be painted!

I will, if I ever get the time (I wont) i'll be following the Mike Mcvey scheme as shown on the guide I seem to remember we will be getting. That should be the quickest method for me or a Mass Effect like scheme.

N7 black/red or black/blue would look very cool and fits with the armour nicely. I was planning on doing white, but may well switch to black/red instead so it doesn't get mixed up with my Aleph

Bonus points to the first person to GS themselves the Normandy crew

Some more sexyness

Alpharius wrote:While nice, I think Kroot had a few windows open at the same time and posted in the wrong thread?

Was on the run and posted it wrong.

The info on the strategic points, both here and in the video, are definitely tempting me to pick up the terrain pack. And those grav effect rules are sure to inspire people wanting to add house rules for biotics.

Allot of the extra models wern't really of interest to me on this one (nice though they were) but that terrain pack if only half as good as it appears will be a boon to almost any Sci-fi game nevermind the rules.

I got one booked, do I want more.....?

You know you do!

November & then March cannot come soon enough....

Has anyone who contacted them after the Kickstarter ended gotten a form yet? I got a confirmation I was on the list but nothing since?

For regular kickstarter pledgers when does the window to add things end?

think the emails that went out last week were just for the pledgers so they can get a rough idea what people want , the pledge manager site thats going live in the next couple of weeks will be the thing you will need as thats the one where you chose what you need/make any extra/new payments etc.

RiTides wrote:Has anyone who contacted them after the Kickstarter ended gotten a form yet? I got a confirmation I was on the list but nothing since?

I'm pretty sure it's another fortnight yet. There was the two week window to sign up, but the CKPM isn't going up until the end of the month.

Got it, thanks!

Ali McVey has kindly posted test shots (NOT YET FINISHED) of some of the plastic figures for Sedition wars, and they look excellent (mould lines will be reduced from what you see here)










Feast your eyes, then join the Studio McVey Forum

Yum

Slinky wrote:Yum

My sentiments exactly! Looks like lovely sculpting detail, roll on November already.. !

I really do hope that the custom bases are made available later on in large quantities at decent prices!

+1 for the bases!

Plastics look great, need to see some of the troopers as well!

Commander Cain wrote:

Plastics look great, need to see some of the troopers as well!

We got to see the mould for one of the Samaratans yesterday on the McVey forum (interesting), and Ali has promised us more teaser shots later so here's hoping

Cool!

Pledge manager site still isn't live, right...?

RiTides wrote:Cool!

Pledge manager site still isn't live, right...?

Nope. You'll get an e-mail from them when it is.

The longer they wait to put it up, the more likely I am to get two biohazard sets instead of the one. Must resist!

Very good! The second guy looks much bigger than the first, I thought they would be more similar.

They're different levels. One is a level 2 strain and the first is a level 1. Makes sense it's a little bigger

Some more posted on Studio McVey forum:

Beaten to it today,

Looking good as well, and Ali says she'll try and paint one up in comparison to the resin version when they arrive 'in house'

I think the curve on the back works really well giving the sculpt some movement from what could have been a fairly static pose

Looks sweet!

detail looks a wee bit soft. still, might just be the photo, and I guess some compromises have to be made for that price

I sincerely hope they stay like this. I was originally worried that the models would have slotta-bases, which would completely ruin the look of the base to have a blank line through the awesome detail. It would be great if they just had a plug under one foot that would go into a hole in the base.

Also, the last image looks great. It's a bit "soft", but still is a very nice version of realistic-looking female body armor, without the usual emphasis on "the boobs".

AegisGrimm wrote:
without the usual emphasis on "the boobs".

It's becuase the gun is covering the chest

Kidding aside, I am quite impressed.

Hulksmash wrote:They're different levels. One is a level 2 strain and the first is a level 1. Makes sense it's a little bigger

They're both Level 2s, but one's from the Scythe Witch line and the other's from the Brimstone line.

I've been playing Dead Space since I picked it up from Steam's recent sale, and I think it does a better job with the Strain concept than Sedition Wars does. These ones remind me too much of the worst of Chaos, where "Chaos" means "It's got holes in it!"

Will there be a way to buy more vanguard? Wondering about swapping my strain for vanguard since I'm really just after the models.

Vain wrote:What the hell? 80 bucks for "50 highly detailed 28mm miniatures" and "50 Scenic miniature bases"?

That is insanely cheap.

....too cheap! I am wanting to see what kind of miniature sprues we are talking about coz those demo minis in the video look freaking awesome, but wouldnt be surprised if they are the metal or resin masters/prototypes of the plastic minis.

still making 50 percent profit

RiTides wrote:Will there be a way to buy more vanguard? Wondering about swapping my strain for vanguard since I'm really just after the models.

There's supposed to be at some point, but we don't know when or for how much. In the meantime you can always do what I'm doing and buy the Opticamo pack to get eleven grunts and four special characters for $30.

AegisGrimm wrote:[...], but still is a very nice version of realistic-looking female body armor, without the usual emphasis on "the boobs".

Sedition Wars: For the discerning gentleman who prefers a lady's bum.

spaceXjam wrote:

Vain wrote:What the hell? 80 bucks for "50 highly detailed 28mm miniatures" and "50 Scenic miniature bases"?

That is insanely cheap.

....too cheap! I am wanting to see what kind of miniature sprues we are talking about coz those demo minis in the video look freaking awesome, but wouldnt be surprised if they are the metal or resin masters/prototypes of the plastic minis.

still making 50 percent profit

50% marginally perhaps.
I think the Mcveys&co would like to earn back dev time from that. You mind?

Commander Cain wrote:The longer they wait to put it up, the more likely I am to get two biohazard sets instead of the one. Must resist!

I sadly have already fallen foul of this idea. Will be adjusting my order up as soon as its up.


The female figure looks quite cool, I am eager to see the final scale, although I mainly got this game for the boardgame, the idea of using some of the Vanguard as a counts as Stormtrooper Squad has it merits.

Well, this way we can drill holes the way we like and position them as we want. That´s even better than having only one valid position for them on the base.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
The female figure looks quite cool, I am eager to see the final scale, although I mainly got this game for the boardgame, the idea of using some of the Vanguard as a counts as Stormtrooper Squad has it merits.

I agree completely, think that the models in this game should have a lot of uses beyond the obvious ones! I'm planning on using them as a security/0-12 force for Infinity for instance, and the strain models for some of the sci-fi zombie scenarios that are floating around.

I'm not too sure how well these models will fit alongside the basic GW Imperial Guard range - even though they are 28mm they are not heroically scaled, so the proportions might look a bit off. They are also a bit more 'hard sci-fi' look, and a little different in concept to the 40k universe - although that would be instantly dispelled if you had an entire army of the things

Interesting, if they are indeed slightly smaller, it occurs to me that a Whiteshields squad, where they are all supposed to be 15-17, not fully grown might be an idea. Using a Special training armour, that equates to Flak.

Will have to wait till I can put them side by side with Imperial Guard.

They would also look good as models to represent the breakaway humans being supplied by the Tau. The armor suits look more like tau body armor if it were made for humans.

AegisGrimm wrote:They would also look good as models to represent the breakaway humans being supplied by the Tau. The armor suits look more like tau body armor if it were made for humans.

Nice idea! I was planning on using them as ST or possibly elysians/tech-y guard, but the smooth shapes definitely fit Tau human auxiliary well.

Here's a scale picture next to a Cadian as I have 1 of the resins and people seem to be interested in a comparison

Thanks Dave! That is some pretty useful scale for us 40k players!

I don't suppose you have an Infinity model lying around for comparisons as well do you? I guess they would be a little tall as Infinity tends to be smaller than 40k and Mantic stuff.

Nope sorry just the Cadian

No probs! I was only planning on picking up some drones anyway.

Personally I am pleasantly surprised by the quality of the plastic models.

Thanks for that, it's really useful!

I agree, they are looking like wonderful quality plastics.

For the scaling issue, here is a common pic comparing Cadians with Infinity minis (from left to right: metal cadian, plastic cadian, ariadna kazak, haqqislam ghulam) which should help to extrapolate some sense of scale.



I think it should be OK in both cases. Probably a little closer to the Infinity mini; as the models in the pic don't have arms, and one of the distinguishing features of those Cadians is they have hands that would make Michael Phelps feel inadequate.

I like their scale of the vanguard trooper versus the heroic-scaled Cadian! They look much closer to a true 28mm-scaled figure that's wearing armor.

Has anyone heard anything about their Pledge Manager? They're really taking their time, and I'd like to get paying for this SW stuff over and done with.

Nope, I haven't gotten an email... makes me a little anxious/frustrated, too...

Today is pretty much day 30. I wouldn't say they're taking their time. Give the a few more days before getting annoyed. They've barely moved past the estimated time for the CKPM to go live.

Phaedrus by Yannick Hennebo greys are up wow!

Looking really good so far (especially the profile of her leg through the dress)

(and nice to see one of the exclusives so soon, she's not due to ship till March after all)

It's really good to see a company keeping us all interested AFTER they've got our cash

Wow indeed! Shame she is the only figure I didn't have on my wish list!

Likewise. Looks really nice but she's one of the few characters I didn't go for. Detail looks good.

Wow, what an awesome mini.

Hmmm very nice model. Was that with the main $100 choice or an extra. I've completely lost track of what's what between the many kickstarters that all landed at once!

In before bewbs are not big enough for a female wargaming miniature crowd turn up.

She was a $10 extra along with the strain version (which I am interested to see!).

Note that the past e-mail sent out isn't 100% binding.
You can still rework the allotment of your pledge to get this mini.

So I managed to miss the entire Kickstarter, damn work keeping me from the hobby!

I don't suppose there's any way to get these cool models now? :(

email coolmini, you never know!

kaneka wrote:So I managed to miss the entire Kickstarter, damn work keeping me from the hobby!

I don't suppose there's any way to get these cool models now? :(

You could ask someone you trust to add your copy to their pledge. You could ask CMoN to make an exception and add you to the late pledge list. Or - if you go to conventions - you will still be able to pick them up there.

kaneka wrote:So I managed to miss the entire Kickstarter, damn work keeping me from the hobby!

I don't suppose there's any way to get these cool models now? :(

Late pledges closed on the 14th of July the only way of getting in now is to find someone that has already pledged and is willing to add some stuff to their CKPM (due shortly) for you. As Alex said conventions are another option but numbers may be very limited and you may not get one there.

The sculpt for not!Ripley has been done as well:

link

Wow! She looks exactly like the concepts! Lets hope all that detail can hold when it is made in plastic (the characters will be plastic right?).

At the rate they are sculpting the figures it seems silly to have to wait till March to get them now!

Commander Cain wrote:Wow! She looks exactly like the concepts! Lets hope all that detail can hold when it is made in plastic (the characters will be plastic right?).

The add-on characters are supposedly going to be resin.

AlexHolker wrote:The sculpt for not!Ripley has been done as well:

link

Looks really good. I think this is the character I'm most looking forward to painting. both the figures match the artwork really well.

I hope that the Ramirez sculpt is a bit more dynamic.

Platuan4th wrote:

Commander Cain wrote:Wow! She looks exactly like the concepts! Lets hope all that detail can hold when it is made in plastic (the characters will be plastic right?).

The add-on characters are supposedly going to be resin.

The extra characters will be made of the same plastiresin as the regular miniatures (shown earlier) - it holds details better than regular plastic and it must be superglued it will not take regular plastic glue.

Yannick is also responsible for sculpting Ridley it looks like he may be doing most of the female characters but he has also done some of the original Strain, I assume Kev White and JAG will also do some of the extra scuplts.

I like this, but maybe not as much as the Hexen sculpt. Maybe the nose is a little too flat ?

I think the HUGE gun fits well with the overly combat skilled survivor though

I'm glad I picked Ridley for my extra figure. If the normal version is this nice the Strain'ed version should be awesome. I wanted Ridley badly because both versions will make great characters for their respective factions.

The only problem I have is the gigantic gun- though it's just a gripe. Overall it's not bad, but check out the grip- it seems HUGE!

AegisGrimm wrote:The only problem I have is the gigantic gun- though it's just a gripe. Overall it's not bad, but check out the grip- it seems HUGE!

It does seem a bit large, but it's also a huge centerpiece from the iconic scene/still.

A new update on the Kickstarter page by CMON

"In order to address the numerous queries as efficiently as possible, here's a short announcement:

The CKPM isn't out yet, it's currently being beta tested now for SW:BfA and should be ready soon. It'll be open for a good amount of time too (at least 4 weeks) so don't worry about timing stuff.

Fear not! When it's out, you will see an update from Kickstarter (i.e. here) that the CKPM is released!"

so the pledge manager looks like being a likkle bitty late, but they'll give us 4 weeks to decide on extras when it does go live

(NOTE: I don't think you'll be able to change things on this after you've submitted, so think what you want before completing it, I know I changed by mind within a day or so of the survey )

Yep once the CKPM is confirmed that's it no further changes or addtions so if your not sure don't confirm it until you have to.

You can change things as much as you like before confirming it will be prepopulated with your survey details but you do not have to stick to your survey choices you can change it around again and add extra if you want and pay by Paypal the only thing you need to ensure is that you spend all of your initial pledge money as there are no refunds if you don't.

AlexHolker wrote:The sculpt for not!Ripley has been done as well:

It mostly looks good, but the faces are flat and lack any detail.

scipio.au wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:The sculpt for not!Ripley has been done as well:

It mostly looks good, but the faces are flat and lack any detail.

Agree, I think the face of not-Six is quite better. At least what I can guess from the pics LOL

To be fair, I don't think the contrast on either of the pics looks particularly good. They definitely look to have got the proportions and poses spot on, and it could be that the Battlestar Galactica girl has a bit of a flatter face anyway, and so the limited depth of the photo doesn't affect it that much.

Nitpickers Gonna Nitpick!

Though in all honesty, I think Pacific's got the right of it...

I'm just plain excited! It's getting closer!!!!

Same here. So much stuff to look forward to painting once GW prices me out of their stuff (which they mostly have already).

So.....anything new on the game? I am actively awaiting the Kickstarter manager to finish out my order.

Planning some nice non-grimdark future Sci-fi conflicts this fall. I think the game will make an easy basis for small skirmish games (simply replace the grid with inches on an open tabletop of scenery.)

AegisGrimm wrote:So.....anything new on the game? I am actively awaiting the Kickstarter manager to finish out my order.

No, nothing. I imagine that we'll have to wait another week until they're done with Gen Con before we see any progress.

Hulksmash wrote:01/08/2012 11:56:35 AM:
Today is pretty much day 30. I wouldn't say they're taking their time. Give the a few more days before getting annoyed. They've barely moved past the estimated time for the CKPM to go live.

What about now?

Sure, get cranky

I personally don't expect it till after Gen-Con. If it doesn't show up sometime next week I'll start to get a little annoyed.

I posted this on the Studio McVey forums earlier it's from my CKPM they have added Sedition Wars as a project as of today but it's not yet available on the orders page so something may happen soon.

If it's really bugging anyone just contact them for a refund. I made a post bitching on Kickstarter and they immediately offered to refund me if I'm unhappy with the wait. I didn't take it, but to anyone who is, there is an option.

It's Gen-Con guys. You can give 'em 'til next week.

If it's really bugging anyone just contact them for a refund. I made a post bitching on Kickstarter and they immediately offered to refund me if I'm unhappy with the wait. I didn't take it, but to anyone who is, there is an option.

I'm really not worried, as I'm not going to add anything to the order. I'll just be locking it in for sure.

They are pretty busy with Zombicide stuff, aren't they?

I'll give them a wide margin, I trust they are going to do a great job.

Aye I didn't buy either this or Zombicide because I needed them 'tomorrow' it'll get here when it gets here is my feelings on the matter.

Oh, I'm just talking about maintaining good communication with the 4,000 people who just essentially gave you a million dollars who you told you'd get back to 2 weeks ago. Especially while asking for more (RK).

Silly me.

Would be nice to hear something soon - November is looking less far away all the time

Oh yeah, the communication, the updates, the sense of satisfaction after purchase has been absolutely zero. They have done nothing to encourage a sense of customer satisfaction or even bothered to try and give people some communication.

This will definitely be my last Kickstarter but doubly so, the last time I buy anything from Cool Mini or Not.

Some people really have some strange kind of sense of entitelment.

They seid that it would take some time to cough up the tool and that it would probably take a month. Count in GenCon and they are still within a reasonable time-frame.

Also, you knew from the beginning that before November you would get nothing.

So quit acting like sissis and just wait like everyone else does and did with Zombicide.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:It's Gen-Con guys. You can give 'em 'til next week.

I think so too. If we are a week or two into September and we still haven't heard anything then it might be time to start sending emails, but I don't think it's necessary to jump to any bad conclusions yet.

Well my last update from the Kickstarter itself said at least 4weeks before the thingy comes up, and that was dated August 2nd. So they have been communicating.

Its obviously taking them more time than they initially said, but to say they have not been communicating is a bit of a stretch. Or do folks have email updates from Kickstarter switched off?

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Well my last update from the Kickstarter itself said at least 4weeks before the thingy comes up, and that was dated August 2nd.

You are incorrect. It says that once it goes up, it will stay up for at least 4 weeks.

The updates also never give a date to when their pledge manager go lives, it just goes live on Day 30+

They are probably just extremely busy with Gencon that they decided to hold off on opening it up till they get back.

Ah yeah I did misread, however it is still basically saying we'll update you asap. If they haven't got an exact date, what more can they do?

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 scipio.au wrote:
What's Rule #1 again?

Use the little triangle to report issues, rather than trying to get their attention in a thread?

Also, what's with the avatars in quotes all of a sudden?

Pacific wrote:

Awwww, he called you a sissy? Diddums... (only joking only joking!!)

Duncan is a bad bad pussy
cat.

Stay on topic, AND polite, of course.

Thanks!

Don't mine the delay. As long as it gets done. I would rather have them get everything correct for a smooth process rather than F'up and cause problems for many people.

I'm in no hurry as I have plenty to keep me busy.

Fixing the CKPM
Zombicide release
SedWars manufacturing
GenCon
Relic Kinghts kickstarter

not to mention the rest of their business they have to operate.

Perhaps if they want to make another kickstarter they won't make is so close to ones that have just finished.

 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
Some people really have some strange kind of sense of entitelment.

They seid that it would take some time to cough up the tool and that it would probably take a month. Count in GenCon and they are still within a reasonable time-frame.

Also, you knew from the beginning that before November you would get nothing.

So quit acting like sissis and just wait like everyone else does and did with Zombicide.

Its interesting to note that a few of these individuals are serial offenders that have been added to the ever increasing "ignore" list after comments in other threads. Pity this function still allows quoted text....

Myself and a few others threw down a "lot" of coin into this (with probably more added with the Manager) and the general consensus is to be patient.. Would rather a top quality prduct at the end, especially mini sculpt wise, than something thats been rushed to appease the vocal minority. Maybe the project has been a victim of its own success thus far but is anyone really doubting at this point in time that they won't deliver come November?

Edit. Just to add to Honda's list they have a few other projects in the works.

Wrath of Kings
Confrontation Phoenix

You can of course always follow on the Studio McVey Forum where Mike and Ali keep everyone up to date... As noted, CMoN has quite a lot on their hands with shipping Zombicide (early), Relic Knights, GenCon and who knows what (like regular business). And as all you do with the CKPM is adding more money to what you already pledged or ordering some additional stuff, I don't see what the big deal is. This does not make the production process go faster or slower, the only thing is that CMoN and Studio McVey might be missing out on some extra money as people waste it for Reaper, or Red Box, or Relic Knights

I can wait for as long as it takes, more time to finish painting the stuff I already have!

Zwan1One wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

link

Looks really good. I think this is the character I'm most looking forward to painting. both the figures match the artwork really well.

Agree completely, but the first thing I'm going to do is get my hands on one of Hasslefree's notPulse-Rifles and go the weapon swap...

While "sissy" isn't the harshest of insults, it's still rather impolite, and as such, clearly designed to get a rise out of the readers. I've followed your advice, Dysartes. Thank you.


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 Eliazar wrote:
You can of course always follow on the Studio McVey Forum where Mike and Ali keep everyone up to date... As noted, CMoN has quite a lot on their hands with shipping Zombicide (early), Relic Knights, GenCon and who knows what (like regular business). And as all you do with the CKPM is adding more money to what you already pledged or ordering some additional stuff, I don't see what the big deal is. This does not make the production process go faster or slower, the only thing is that CMoN and Studio McVey might be missing out on some extra money as people waste it for Reaper, or Red Box, or Relic Knights

In fairness, It'd take CMON all of 30 seconds to post something to keep people mollified. I'd also suggest that since they're the ones running the thing, surely they have the responsibility to keep us informed, rather than expecting people to go around multiple forums in the hope of being informed. As for Gencon, sure I can understand it's a busy time. But then, Pax is in a week or two as well - should that give them another 18 days grace without even any questions to be asked? After all, it's not like the convention dates were suddenly revealed a few days ago - they've been planned for a long time.

Obviously their priority is getting "new" money, since they've already got the bulk of what they'll get from SW. So those who have paid are lower on the priority scale than promotion for new product on shelves (Zombicide) and new money via KS (Relic Wars). But, you know. 30 seconds worth of posting, Maybe 2mins at most? It's not hard. I'm still getting updates from Mantic and even Stonehaven every so often, even though I don't expect any product anytime soon and both KS are completely over.

Speaking for myself at least, I'm not actually impatient to get my stuff ASAP and have never indicated that I was (Is anyone here actually making that complaint? I haven't noticed it, so I suspect either misunderstandings or straw men - or a little from column A and a little from column B. The ship dates are on the KS page, after all. I do just want to get the last of the funds paid so all that I have left to do is forget about it and wait for boxes to arrive. (Like the Mantic one.) I value honest and open communication - respect towards customers. Unfortunately, many businesses take their customers for granted all too easily. I'm one of those people who will indeed be "wasting" their money on Reaper, having already "wasted" it on Red Box.

Actually I get updates via Kickstarter every 2 or 3 weeks, maybe your filter is too agressive?

Haha, I didn't want to imply that you were impatient getting the stuff. I guess I just don't care if I get a message telling me the CKPM will take some more time as they have to figure out stuff or whatever.

In any case, thanks to Reaper and Red Box, I will also have to adjust my little wish list of additional thinks to get downwards...

I cannot wait for November and March, two Christmases.

The CKPM is live I have access to my Sedition Wars order. If you have an account from Zombicide you can log in through that otherwise you'll need to wait for the official email with the link to your account

Is this it ?
https://ckpm.coolminiornot.com/login

Go go Google ! =P
Hit me if that's not the one haha

That's it you'll need your log in details from the CKPM email they are issuing now (Update #65)

I just got mailed my details and I have completed the process

Now I just have to wait.

 Erasoketa wrote:
I just got mailed my details and I have completed the process

Now I just have to wait.

Ditto

I got the update in the mail, but still waiting for the link. Not really sure if I'm going to get anything extra as I am already in for $150. I already "bought" the industrial powersuit, because I wanted one for my gaming, but then right before the end we got the one both the Gnosis and Aphid frames, making that need kinda redundant.

Only problem is that I don't know of anything I would want to switch the suit for on the CKPM, because nothing else is 15 bucks.

Just a warning: my email said it had to be completed in the next 7 days. I don't know whether that's just because I didn't pay via Amazon to start with, but it's worth checking if you were going to take advantage of the promised four week window.

All done

Roll on November/March

Does anyone have any idea how long we have to finalize our orders and add more stuff if we want?, I can't find any info in the emails or on the CKPM itself.

They said they would give us 30 days (if you participated via KS),

BUT it looks like only 7 days if you bought in entiely by Paypal/CMON for whatever reason

but I'd say do it as soon as you can

 Rolt wrote:
Does anyone have any idea how long we have to finalize our orders and add more stuff if we want?, I can't find any info in the emails or on the CKPM itself.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Just a warning: my email said it had to be completed in the next 7 days. I don't know whether that's just because I didn't pay via Amazon to start with, but it's worth checking if you were going to take advantage of the promised four week window.

My mail didn't say anything about it thought.

Edit: ninja'd

Aye, sorted mine, upgraded to two boxes for only $45 after I removed the extras I would gain via having the box twice.

Can't see a date myself, either - and I was 100% via Kickstarter/Amazon too...

Creator CoolMiniOrNot about 2 hours ago
We'll be doing final calls towards the end of September - the moment we have confirmation from the factory shipments are ready to go out everyone needs to be locked in; if you delay then your stuff won't go out in the first wave.

Had my CKPM email just now. Made my final choices and all is done. With this and now Relic Knights, I'm all Kickstarted out for the year. Its a lot of financial committment up front for something you're not recieving for a while.

Now just got to hope the resale value of the limited Edition stuff is worth it on Ebay, right before Christmas!

I was kinda miffed at them for the delay, but it is understandable.

It is what it is.

It will probibly be my last KS with CMON, though.

They overate at the trough, and have a few issues that set me the wrong way.


Nothing personal.

Well I'm locked in. A little annoyed at the change in prices on all the suits but meh, I'm locked in at least. No more money going out.

I had to get locked in because of lack of funds... stupid car.

Can't wait for November!

Me eithe Sparky, we should get a game in

Yeah,
Huzzah! Excited to one step closer to getting a game from CMON.

Panic....

Well I’m locked in. Decided against getting anything else. I wanted another set of Bonecrabs, but a friend of mine said he doesn’t want his, so that works out in the end. So an extra set of Drones and 3 suits.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Well I'm locked in. A little annoyed at the change in prices on all the suits but meh, I'm locked in at least. No more money going out.

How many additional suits were you getting? The special ones I mean - Barka and Kara? If you weren't getting any more the change to $25 each shouldn't affect you.

I think I'm probably gonna lock in what I had initially "ordered". I thought about getting the Calamity crew to use with the other minis in the set to have the possibility for Vanguard versus Rebels, with Kara and her Gnosis suit for the Van and the Industrial suit for heavy support for the Rebels.

Now I'm seriously tempted instead to pledge over on the Dreamforge Kickstarter to get a squad of their cool Stormtroopers, and just use them with spare Vanguard cards, a SedWars character or two, and the Industrial suit. It would give a look of a human faction that's just as sophisticated as the Vanguard, rather then ragtag. The only bummer is that they have the look, but would only have rifles.

Hmm...maybe some Pig Iron or Wargames Factory Greatcoat troops(they have the weapon options, but I hate some parts of them, like the heads)?

I wonder how it would look if I painted some of the Vanguard troopers as more of a ragtag look- god knows the biohazard set comes with plenty of them.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Me eithe Sparky, we should get a game in

if only I had a car right now that I could drive!

Hopefully got all the reaper stuff when SW gets shipped and kill 2 birds with one stone!

How long was the CKPM open for Zombiecide? I want some THI suits, but aren't in the position for them until the middle of next month...

I'm locked in. Now I'll just sit back and wait...

@HBMC

Well the THI suits were listed as $10 and then they were changed back to $15 and then they said $20 for the two big suits and I put in for 2 more Kara's and then the price changed on another item so I dropped them both.

@HBMC: Darn crabs! Who wants them anyways.

Can't wait for this, for some reason Nathan Fillon is the highlight for me, DARN YOU CASTLE!!

you have until Sept. 30th to get your pledges in.

I honestly don't know how this happened.

I started off with 100 bucks.

Then I went to 140, still cool.

then 200, Still fine with it.

Then Somewhere around the Firefly crew reveal I just said the hell with it and was tired of changing pledges.

Went to 400.

Then in the final days of the pledge a little birdy told me about the last 2 stretch goals.

then I went to 600.


I had a good week last week as far as tips go and fixing people's lawn mowers.

So now I am at 800, though I am waiting to submit my pledge as my buddy now wants in.


I hope to see this game/universe develop greatly within the next few years.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Well the THI suits were listed as $10 and then they were changed back to $15 and then they said $20 for the two big suits and I put in for 2 more Kara's and then the price changed on another item so I dropped them both.

Oh ok. You added more Kara suits initially. That makes sense now. I originally put down for 3 THI suits. Then they went from $15 to $10 and I thought great, that’ll pay for a second set of headcrabs. Then they went back to $15, and I decided to leave it.

I think 5 suits (total) is enough for me!

@Piston Honda: I tip my hat to you sir! That is a solid pledge

 Makaleth wrote:
@Piston Honda: I tip my hat to you sir! That is a solid pledge

First person to compliment me and not insult me on my pledge.

Yeah locked in too.
Only realy interested in more vanguard troopers so wasnt much extras that interested me in the end. Just got a case for free so canceled that too. And cancelled the thi suits and am going to get some mantic inforcers instead. .so cmon delaying this youve lost $100 ish from me and im sure others are in a similar boat.

How many of you are getting the Lights Out Campaign Pack or the Opti/GitD sets?

Anybody have any ideas (other than in the dark and/or opti-camo) how the LO Campaign will differ from the standard campaign?

E.g. could it be normal vanguard trying to fight Strain in the dark? Followed by Stealth Vanguard fighting normal strain? (can't see the point of neither being able to see each other...that would just end up as a big punch up in the middle)

Putting aside rarity...is the pack good value do you think?

I'm tempted by the campaign pack but money is tight at the moment so not sure. The Opticamo guys would make interesting Tau Pathfinders or Stealth suits in a Gueseva force, I think...but I'm really not so sure about the GitD models. OTOH...I do like the look of the GitD Scythe Witch and Brimstone.

The LO pack is not as good a value as quarentine zone box set on a price per mini basis

(somewhere over 30 figs for $50 still less the $2 each, instead of 100 figs for $100)

BUT it has clear Samaritans (& Characters), and glowy strain, you have to decide if the novelty is worth it

(it was for me, but I did add it as the last thing I added, if i had less spare cash it would have been the first thing to go)

The LO campaign will feature optional rules for 'cloaking' the vanguard force, and for 'regenerating' strain, the models are ideal for showing these effects, but you could run it just using tokens on the base of a normal figure instead

 CURNOW wrote:
Yeah locked in too.
Only realy interested in more vanguard troopers so wasnt much extras that interested me in the end. Just got a case for free so canceled that too. And cancelled the thi suits and am going to get some mantic inforcers instead. .so cmon delaying this youve lost $100 ish from me and im sure others are in a similar boat.

Ah they lost $100 from you but the delay just gave me time to convince me to get another biohazard so it evens itself out!

Having looked at the mantic enforcers however I might just get some of them as well, seem to match pretty well with the vanguard although I might wait to see if they do a warpath kickstarter first for the freebies!

 Commander Cain wrote:

 CURNOW wrote:
Yeah locked in too.
Only realy interested in more vanguard troopers so wasnt much extras that interested me in the end. Just got a case for free so canceled that too. And cancelled the thi suits and am going to get some mantic inforcers instead. .so cmon delaying this youve lost $100 ish from me and im sure others are in a similar boat.

Ah they lost $100 from you but the delay just gave me time to convince me to get another biohazard so it evens itself out!

Having looked at the mantic enforcers however I might just get some of them as well, seem to match pretty well with the vanguard although I might wait to see if they do a warpath kickstarter first for the freebies!

yeah both designed by Roberto Cirillo so fit together really well ,think im gona make them look a bit more droid like {like the robo cops from the new total recal} and use them as assualt troops

Well that would certainly explain the similarities! I was also planning on making them cyborgs though partly due to their impossibly skinny legs!

Jada "Iron" Lily sculpt is done - she is free with all Biohazard and up pledges

Damn - that came out great, and much nicer than I had expected/hoped!

Thanks for sharing it!

That looks nice indeed.

It's great how they kept the teddy on the spanner from the artwork thought that would get dropped. Ali is back online for the first time in about a month as they moved home so there should be more updates soon

@AegisGrimm- I'm in that same boat. Going in on Dreamforge for my sci-fi infantry, but darn these THI suits are soooo tempting!! (For terminator equivalents) I did get an email from them when I said I missed the deadline, so I think I have access to the pledge manager page... if the suits were $10 instead of $15 I'd be all over it.

(or even a pack of say 5 for $50-$60, so you could only get them cheaper if you're ordering a number of them)

So.. anyone know.. are these traditional sculpts, like with green/gray/brown-stuff? Or 3D models that gets 3D printed? Are they gonna be styrene injected plastic? or resinwannabeplastic?

I assumed it was going to be real plastic, but if they're doing traditional sculpts then does that mean it'll be more like resin figs?

They are traditional putty/clay sculpts and will be cast plastiresin, restic whatever you want to call it! - not Styrene. Plastic glue will not work on these only superglue.

Im not too sure these are plastic/resin tbh i seem to remember mike saying the kick starter special figures would be normal resin as i would of thorght the cost of having them tooled for resin/plastic would be prohibitive.

Nice figure i like that its kinda neutral so it can be used in almost any system.




Too lazy to read properly edit. ...ignor my top line. ^^^^^ dave knows better than me

Niiiiccceeee! Looking forward to getting a continual stream of studio mcvey goodies. Are they still on target for delivery in nov or has it been pushed back?

That's a great Ariadnean engineer

Phase 1 delivery is still slated for November

Here's Ali's post from the Studio McVey forum

Hi,

I'm sure some of you think we must have abandoned everyone and retired to some paradise island or something. IF ONLY

The week after Mike returned from Gencon we started packing our house, the studio, the kid....(everything but the kitchen sink because that wasn't ours) and moved up to the Lake District to be with Mike's mum. It's been a long few weeks and now we are here, it's going to be another few weeks until we get internet and other modern technology like tv. The views make up for it though. Those that pledged to come for a days painting through kickstarter are in for a treat.

Anyway, I'm grabbing internet time when I can at the moment and I thought it was about time I updated you all on a few things.

Firstly, the production is looking good and to schedule.

The new store is due to open very soon. I am just finishing up painting the new LE miniature in the next day or so and you're in for a real treat.

Lastly, if you check over on the BforA forum in production news, I will be posting pictures of Jada Lily in the next few minutes. Hope you like her.

 Erasoketa wrote:
That's a great Ariadnean engineer

My thoughts exactly !

Did I miss something or did we not actually get an official kickstarter survey?

The CKPM emails went out on the 21st of August and stay open until the 30th of September. If your a backer and didn't get the email contact CMON at kickstarter@coolminiornot.com

https://ckpm.coolminiornot.com/login - CKPM homepage if you already have an account log in there

Well I htink they're done a super job with the Iron Lilly.

I agree it's cool the teddy bear made it through from the concept art.

Cant wait till she arrives for paint!

The model from concept to actual model gives me a lot of hope for all the special models. I'm super excited for them now that I'm more confident of the end product (not like I wasn't that confident given it's being overseen by the McVey's)

Looking v good!

Does indeed look very good! A lovely little bit of sculpting.

Yes a fantastic looking sculpt, very true to the artwork and bursting with detail. Nice to see we have not been forgotten!

That is a great sculpt, kind of regretting not adding that one in. I just went for the basic set when all was said and done.

I was expecting normal styrene plastic models though. I kind of worry a little though when it comes to resintasitc models, thanks to GW's finecast debacle, and considering they have to mass produce 4000+ sets. But I'm betting the McVey's will have much better quality control.

 Necros wrote:
That is a great sculpt, kind of regretting not adding that one in. I just went for the basic set when all was said and done.

By basic you mean the $80 or the $100 one? Because it is included in the Biohazard ($100) level.

Only two issues with the figure. First, work boots with high heels look silly. Second, McVey really should look at Adam Poots' work over at Kindgom Death to see how he could improve on sculpting female faces. Outside of that, this really is a great figure. Very much looking forward to getting my two Biohazards and assorted extras.

Yes the face is a bit of a letdown, a good paintjob should fix 'er up though!

Good figure, I am happy how close to the concept art this one is, hopefully the others are as good.

 Breotan wrote:
Second, McVey really should look at Adam Poots' work over at Kindgom Death to see how he could improve on sculpting female faces.

I doubt that it was sculpted by Mike McVey...


The face is a little butch, although it will reshape slightly in casting and clever painting can make up for a lot. It's a superb rendition of the concept art, though. Definitely a fan.

Great translation of the artwork. Is this actually going to be be sent in the first shipment?

 Necros wrote:
That is a great sculpt, kind of regretting not adding that one in. I just went for the basic set when all was said and done.

I was expecting normal styrene plastic models though. I kind of worry a little though when it comes to resintasitc models, thanks to GW's finecast debacle, and considering they have to mass produce 4000+ sets. But I'm betting the McVey's will have much better quality control.

If it's anything like Mantic's sprueless plastic, it's _amazing_. I just put together the Gore Riders that I just got from my Orc army Kickstarter - it's durable, has super high detail, it's so easy to work with. I hope more companies use it, it's better than metal and the level of detail around all sides makes it better than sprued plastic in some aspects.

Agree with the above - I just got my Mantic stuff which included some "restic" Wraiths - lovely material, no casting imperfections.

Why oh why can't Citadel do something similar instead of the dreadful Finecast?

They can, all three FC that I have are great casts. I just think they rushed the implementation and the Internet has jumped on it and blown it out of proportion.

Either way GW did themselves no favours in not having a more public announcement on the products flaws and what they were doing/done to rectify it.

I have no worries with CMon or more specifically Studio McVey.

Sadly its not out of proportion. I've only bought a few finecast figures, but I contacted GW to sort out replacements for a Mordor troll and a box of Sword Brethren. Guess what? Faults in both of the replacement items.

My only FC figure was bought recently - A terminator librarian. £15 and had plenty of air bubbles and the staff was horrendously bent - Thankfully I wanted to use a spare metal arm with a sword anyway...

I for one am steering clear of any further FC purchases.

Anyway, let's get back on topic...

Todays update is the Bonecrabs

Oh those sweet little babies

scuttle off an eat somebodys face

then home in time for bed

 DaveC wrote:
Todays update is the Bonecrabs

Nasty - in a good way

Excellent! Can't wait.

Too bad I couldn't get in on this, didn't really have the money when Sedition Wars was going. Might still pick up the game later but I'm not getting 300 models like everyone else, lol...

Really disgusting!

I can see games of Sedition Wars being awesome, especially for the more imaginative it will become so tense trying to protect your guys from this kind of stuff!

They are doing a great job, al four thumbs up!

@Finecast

Got me two Dark Elf Repeater Bolt Thrower and one Unit of Dark Eldar Mandrakes. Throwers looked like cork-screwers and Mandrakes started to crack after a few days in the drawer. That was one year after the introduction of Finecast. Tried several exchanges but alwys the same result. Now I wouldn't touch Finecast even with a 60 feet pole....

Regarding Lily - is it just the viewing angle or is her right arm bent very strangely?

Love the Bonecrabs!

I've heard that the material SedWars figures will be in is like the "restic" that both Mantic and Privateer Press uses, and I have not heard anything bad about either of those companies minis that are in that medium, other than weirdos that are mad because they have to use superglue instead of plastic glue.

 Slinky wrote:
Agree with the above - I just got my Mantic stuff which included some "restic" Wraiths - lovely material, no casting imperfections.

Why oh why can't Citadel do something similar instead of the dreadful Finecast?

Yeah, and it's way cheaper than metal or finecast. What, like ten restic Wraiths is what, $25 retail? approve!

Sorry for the offtopic. Yes, I hope Sedition Wars is using restic or trollcast or whatever resinyplasticy goodness.

Love the bonecrabs! This time they look even better than the concept as the head part has been shrunk a bit, very detailed for such a small model.

Yeah, those bonecrabs are awesome. This collection just keeps getting better.

 DaveC wrote:
Jada "Iron" Lily sculpt is done - she is free with all Biohazard and up pledges

Had to check twice, but McVey offers a very similar but not identical limited miniature for his other kickstarter, the Bombshell Babes

Cannot wait for this to turn up, one of the games I'm really glad I jumped in on.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Had to check twice, but McVey offers a very similar but not identical limited miniature for his other kickstarter, the Bombshell Babes

The Bombshell Babes are by Bombshell Miniatures, not McVey.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Jada "Iron" Lily sculpt is done - she is free with all Biohazard and up pledges

Had to check twice, but McVey offers a very similar but not identical limited miniature for his other kickstarter, the Bombshell Babes

Gotta read a bit closer there Kroot. That is decidedly NOT McVey. It is Patrick Keith's new company/venture.

~Eric

And aside from the big wrench and the combat pants, not really that similar. Similar themes, but very different takes on it.

 Necros wrote:
That is a great sculpt, kind of regretting not adding that one in. I just went for the basic set when all was said and done.

I was expecting normal styrene plastic models though. I kind of worry a little though when it comes to resintasitc models, thanks to GW's finecast debacle, and considering they have to mass produce 4000+ sets. But I'm betting the McVey's will have much better quality control.

Privateer's PVC plastics don't suffer from any of the Finecast resin problems other than warping due to heat.

I only noticed due to Kroot's post by does the Bombshell have a lightsaber on her belt?

 Vain wrote:
I only noticed due to Kroot's post by does the Bombshell have a lightsaber on her belt?

She has her own thread...

 Sidstyler wrote:
Too bad I couldn't get in on this, didn't really have the money when Sedition Wars was going. Might still pick up the game later but I'm not getting 300 models like everyone else, lol...

I ordered an extra box and a friend dropped out, pm me if you are interested, if not ill just put it on ebay.

 insaniak wrote:
And aside from the big wrench and the combat pants, not really that similar. Similar themes, but very different takes on it.

Aside from the big wrench, the combat pants, the boots with the belts, the goggles, the bare midriff, the gloves, the tool belt, the rolled up sleeves, the vest to enhance her decolleté, ... yes totally different.

But I admit, that I read too fast over the "found on the McVey forum" part.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
And aside from the big wrench and the combat pants, not really that similar. Similar themes, but very different takes on it.

Aside from the big wrench, the combat pants, the boots with the belts, the goggles, the bare midriff, the gloves, the tool belt, the rolled up sleeves, the vest to enhance her decolleté, ... yes totally different.

But I admit, that I read too fast over the "found on the McVey forum" part.

You forgot the weight distribution on her legs (in fact, leaning on the same leg)

OMG it's Denny and Haley all over again.

But seriously, can somebody sculpt some decent leather-clad ninja elf chicks, please?

Small update from Ali yesterday:

"Just heard that actual production is nearly finished and pack out is about to begin. "

Awesome sauce!!!

This news will help me resist the bombshell babes KS... darn the cuteness!!

 DaveC wrote:
Small update from Ali yesterday:

"Just heard that actual production is nearly finished and pack out is about to begin. "

Good to hear, I can't wait until November (that's still when it is coming, right?)

I think that should really go out as a KS update, I feel like they (CMON) have been a little slack in that department...

yeah,
no comment...

Panic...

 Slinky wrote:
I think that should really go out as a KS update, I feel like they (CMON) have been a little slack in that department...

It's almost like they've had another KS to worry about this past month...

Meh, as along as they are on the way soon I'm a happy camper

So many of them to paint when they get here but the cool part is I'll have a solid counts-as sisters army

There looks to be a lot of males in that counts as Sisters army!

Well I use the sisters codex. Doesn't mean the fluff has them being women

Super elite hive world regiments. Down to their amazing armor The hard part is going to be the Seraphim

I would take it from Ali's post that they are on target for November shipping. Packaging up the actual game boxes and extras and then shipping them by boat from China to the US and UK will probably take another 6 to 8 weeks.

I'll try to keep things as up to date here when I hear of new updates as for CMON communications well not much I can do about that.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Slinky wrote:
I think that should really go out as a KS update, I feel like they (CMON) have been a little slack in that department...

It's almost like they've had another KS to worry about this past month...

While that's true, McVey could be updating things on their end as well. In either case, it's not really a good excuse that one has left your first group of customers in the dark... so you can attract yet more customers!

Well Studio McVey are posting info on their forum as it comes up

CMON is the only one able to do a KS update as 'creators'

(But since we got an update when Zombies made it onto the ocean, I'd think well get the same here)

Heh, the McVey forums are an... interesting read. Seems the sculpt for Jada Lilly has not been received... warmly.

There has been strong opposition,

strong support,

and 'we liked both', can we move on'

but then the concept art was ahead in the favorite SW character poll.

I wonder if the head sculpted for use in the THI will generate as much 'debate' when it shows up!

Strange. The proportions of the actual model look better to me than the concept art. The head on the concept art is to small and the legs were overly long. Oh well. I like the scupt. Glad I'm getting 3 of them

I thought the face was a little chubby, specifically the cheeks but nothing worth complaining about! The more time they spend fiddling around with faces, the less time they have to sculpt the rest of the models. Not saying they should rush the process, I just like seeing updates!

Personally, I didn't think the actual model was bad, it just suffers from comparison to the truly excellent Yannick Hennebo sculpts. The biggest problem I have with it is that it's like having a 28mm scale mini and a 32mm in the same game... it just looks off.

Heh, I'll say one thing for Kickstarter, it really helps one get an individual appreciation of artists! Gives me idle fantasies of organizing my own line someday... heh, emphasis on the idle!

You also need to concider that Jada is a member of the Firebrand Rebellion

the workers, conscripts and genetic experiments that underpin the corporations structure.

She may well be modified from what we would consider 'pure' human so might not be meant to look the same as the two 'homage' minis
(now I don't nessesarity belive this, but from a Sedition Wars background point of view it's completly reasonable)

(& I'm getting 3 too now, Yay