bbb wrote:Not a fan of those goblins, but the dragon is great. Any idea how much the big models will cost when officially released?

around $30 dollars is what they said

Ya I couldnt pass it up....so there goes 100 bucks.

Won't be surprised if a lot of goblin armies are considering a switch right now to the Pathfinder goblins... I always found the GW ones to be a bit...bleh. These, while not my cup of tea - are a bit less schtick and look like something you might be worried about. 9 for $9 as add on options if you want a bunch of them.

The dragon, well - there is really only one or two Reaper dragons which I am not a big fan of. So far we have 4 giants, an ettin, a gnoll, a big ogre, two demons, a giant skeleton and a trio of elder gods. That is 13 miniatures which are not dragons. On the dragon column, we have 4 which have been reached and 2 in the shoot which should be out. That is two to one not dragon to dragon. The way they break it down - yes, you do seem to be getting a dragon every time you turn around...but perception is a bugger (11 options - 5 of which were dragons).

Should be plenty of stuff for everyone, including a lot of not-dragons. Now, if you don't mind a little picture spam (because lets be honest...the pictures make this whole thing even more impressive) - this is what $100 will get you:



And once you get those - you can choose to add-on any of these:



And if you want more - well, here you go:



Of course, if you think Bones stink to high heaven, at lest consider these:



A $1 pledge will get your foot in the door and you can pick up some inexpensive paints or figure cases. No reason to miss out on the fun just because you don't need the miniatures (and there is another Paint sarcophagus lid coming up next on the map).

So far, it's still cheaper for me to just wait and buy the ones I want. If I knew someone in SoCal going for vampire, I would throw in a lot on the options (even with a service charge), but since those options are not available without wasting $100 as a pledge, Reaper can do without my money.

I'm kinda in the same spot. I'd love to get the ice giant queen (which, for some reason, is called the frost giant princess on their store) and a few of the better sculpted hero models, but I have no use for most of that stuff.

Bob,
That's a fair enough assessment, especially if there aren't that many figs you really want. The kickstarter isn't for everyone, but consider also that at Vampire level you're getting the figs for less than half of retail.

That might make it worthwhile to buy the Vampire level, even if only to trade or sell off the extras.

I want everything and I still am not pledging beyond a little bit.

The reason is that my local store stocks Reaper and I like going there when the new releases for the month arrive and I get the miniatures I want, with ample time to paint them before the next once I want arrive.

I already have 300+ unpainted miniatures that I'm slowly working through and I just don't need another dump of 100+ onto that pile.

There would be no point to the kickstarter if there weren't people buying them as a product after they are released.

That's not true. Reaper is making a huge stack of money out of the deal.

Eilif wrote:Bob,
That's a fair enough assessment, especially if there aren't that many figs you really want. The kickstarter isn't for everyone, but consider also that at Vampire level you're getting the figs for less than half of retail.

That might make it worthwhile to buy the Vampire level, even if only to trade or sell off the extras.

That trade and sell of extras is a big point to doing this! I think of it as an investment. I have great models bought at about half retail price. I can trade/sell what I don't want.

Plus if I need money, I could sell them all and have money again.

pretre wrote:That's not true. Reaper is making a huge stack of money out of the deal.

I'm sure they won't lose money on it, but Reaper has always been about working well with local retailers and getting their products on the shelves of retailers. They may bring in a one time lump sum for the kickstarter, but the kickstarter is happening to develop products for future sales, not just the one time sale to KS backers.

Bones sales making up a third of their miniatures sold with the release of the first 12 skus is what caused the kickstarter. And that happened through regular sales channels. The Kickstarter is being done to develop the line for ongoing business.

Kickstarter backers are getting a great deal and getting a huge amount of miniatures for their pledge. I think the post Kickstarter sales when they actually are available to retailers will be where this really makes money for Reaper though.

I think Reaper is really thinking about the future with the development of this line. Not just a one time splash sale through Kickstarter.

Either way you spend, it's good for reaper. However plugging into the kickstarter means two additional things;
1) That more bones will get made right away rather than the slower standard release schedule.
2)You help your fellow pledgers get more free stuff!

Still, the kickstarter is not for everyone and I have massive respect for those who regularly from their FLGS.

As far as where the money goes and why you have to look at it in business terms.
Kickstarter is about Reaper raising capital for a new line. FLGS and online sales are about making profit from that investment. They are both equally important to business, but you can't have the profit without the investment....

Great post Eilif.

How were they marking this stuff for customs again? The highest individual pledge item? Or was that someone else?

This is going to cost me a ton.

It's in the faq on the kickstarter, should be highest individual pledge level.

Someone has put together a pic of all the paint sets, 72 dollars for 48 paints. +1 dollar for the minimum pledge. It's a steal of a deal.

scipio.au wrote:How were they marking this stuff for customs again? The highest individual pledge item? Or was that someone else?

This is going to cost me a ton.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min#HowWillMyInteShipBeDecl

:( Too bad you can't ship from Europe.

Belgium must be the worst country when it comes to import tax. Damn thieving government :(

Have to say that I love those goblins

Got this set to remind. I kinda wanna go in on it cause it's such a great deal but then I don't play a ton of fantasy stuff anymore so I don't know if $100 couldn't be better spent elsewhere.....

I have truly been on the fence about getting these. I have no need for most of the figs, but I really REALLY like that Clockwork Dragon, and the inexpensive mini case. Now I did also just get an airbrush, so I am thinking maybe I should buy these as training figs, and then sell them on ebay as painted sets.

Very stoked to see these guys in the mix.

Even moreso since if the same pattern continues, they will be availalble as a 5 dollar upgrade when their goal level is reached. I'm thinking very strongly about getting them rather than the IMEF troopers. There are many more nova poses in basic trooper type positions and they would look good better in multiple in a unit than the more unique sculpts of the IMEF troops.

Or maybe I'll just get both!

Also, including the sergeant in the first Chronoscope upgrade, there would be 6 NOVA troopers in the Bones line.

Damn them and their $10 options!

Okay, this is officially starting to "go nuts".

GenCon effect is in full swing already, with about $80k pledged in just one half of today. I think we're about to start seeing $150k+ per day coming in from this point onwards.

We'll definitely be looking at an open $1m treasure chest by the end of this weekend.

I wonder if GenCon is really affecting the kickstarter as Reaper isn't attending GenCon this year.

Maybe we'll see even more interest in the kickstarter when they GenCon'ers get back home and check their inboxes!

My theory about the recent raise in pledges is the "Chronoscope" effect. Check out the graph here:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min/#chart-daily
The day Chronoscope figs were revealed, the pledged amount jumped from $21k to $51k per day and every day since has been higher than any day pre-chronoscope-reveal.

Painted Nova Troopers that were posted over on the Reaper Forums:

Eilif wrote:I wonder if GenCon is really affecting the kickstarter as Reaper isn't attending GenCon this year.

Maybe we'll see even more interest in the kickstarter when they GenCon'ers get back home and check their inboxes!

My theory about the recent raise in pledges is the "Chronoscope" effect. Check out the graph here:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min/#chart-daily
The day Chronoscope figs were revealed, the pledged amount jumped from $21k to $51k per day and every day since has been higher than any day pre-chronoscope-reveal.

The first kick is Chronoscope. The second kick is Pathfinder (they even blogged about it). The third kick will be...

Seriously though, early next week is when the GenCon bump should happen. At this point though, I don't know whether it will be significantly measurable. However, for most of the con activity - people are doing stuff that is in front of them. There are different people at GenCon who are supporting the Reaper Kickstarter (both civilians and vendors like Paizo and Outrider Hobbies). When people go home and talk to friends and fellow gamers about it - there should be another 50 or so miniatures in the stack and still 5 or 6 days left to go. That will help things out more as well.

Then of course you have the fence sitters. If you read through the various postings regarding this, about every 10th comment is someone saying - meh, it is good...but I think I'll wait till the last day. WTF - how much stuff do you really need before you get in on it? So far, the people who have been working it have helped to bring in almost 4,000 backers and over $700,000 in pledges. Almost twice as much money and fast approaching 3 times as many backers as Mantic had when it finished. It is twice the size of Sedition Wars and 3 times the size of Zombicide when they both had the same number of days left.

Seriously, if you are planning on joining up - go all in, and do it now. Watch the stretch goals fall like dominoes and think about the goodies you will be getting in March. Unlike a lot of campaigns, you don't have to worry about Reaper not having something to come next. As great as this has been so far - it has only really scratched the surface of what they have to off. After that - get into the comments or their forums and tell em what you think. They listen, and will do what they can to make things happen.

BTW czakk - those troopers look good painted up like that.

Sean_OBrien wrote:

The first kick is Chronoscope. The second kick is Pathfinder (they even blogged about it). The third kick will be...

... There are different people at GenCon who are supporting the Reaper Kickstarter (both civilians and vendors like Paizo and Outrider Hobbies.

Good Point! I'm not into RPG's and hadn't even thought about Pathfinder, but I recall they have quite a presence at my FLGS. They may be as-or-more responsible for the jump than Chronoscope.

Either way, it's going to be an exciting week!

Sean_OBrien wrote:
Then of course you have the fence sitters. If you read through the various postings regarding this, about every 10th comment is someone saying - meh, it is good...but I think I'll wait till the last day. WTF - how much stuff do you really need before you get in on it? So far, the people who have been working it have helped to bring in almost 4,000 backers and over $700,000 in pledges. Almost twice as much money and fast approaching 3 times as many backers as Mantic had when it finished. It is twice the size of Sedition Wars and 3 times the size of Zombicide when they both had the same number of days left.

Seriously, if you are planning on joining up - go all in, and do it now. Watch the stretch goals fall like dominoes and think about the goodies you will be getting in March. Unlike a lot of campaigns, you don't have to worry about Reaper not having something to come next. As great as this has been so far - it has only really scratched the surface of what they have to off. After that - get into the comments or their forums and tell em what you think. They listen, and will do what they can to make things happen.

I hate posts like this. As I keep saying, when you pay for other people's stuff you can berate them for not going "all in" when it suits you.

That was fast! Onto stretch goal #4 today!

how many minis are we up to for vampire?? I have lost count lol..

151, with 15 more on the next two stretches, if my count is right

Sean_OBrien wrote:

This is the first goal I am not excited about.. But then again I am pretty excited just about all the goals..

Wow, this is on pace to pound Sedition Wars into the ground....

Hulksmash wrote:Wow, this is on pace to pound Sedition Wars into the ground....

I believe your right.. I am having to wait till the friday before, due to pay cycles..

I will definitely be getting a pack of these for myself!

4 Stretchgoals
726 new backers
$143,446 new pledges
All in one day.

7 days left to go.

Brings the total number of miniatures which have already been added to the Vampire level to 155. Less than 65 cents per miniature and there are still another 16 which have already been revealed that will likely be added to that number relatively quickly.

Some scale photos of the larger minis:

czakk wrote:Some scale photos of the larger minis:

I plan on getting the bone giant, and reposing him some.. thanks for the pics..

For $10, I will probably get at least 2 of the bone giants, its my favorite sculpt so far (out of all of the "for pay" stretch goals). I'm in a vampire, but it looks like my costs will be 3x that at least, lol, once I add in all the extras I want.

And here I am sitting on a ton of newly assembled and as of yet unpainted nurglings, plaguebearers, and a ton of CSM stuff.
I will need a new room to store my unpainted models in...I've been so busy assembling I haven't gotten to painting in a while.

I would like to get more.. But just dont have the capital.. I am happy with what they do with vampire level..

The Vampire level offer is just ridiculously good value for money now. I don't play alot of fantasy or D&D but these miniatures are just to good to pass up for the price just for something different and cool to paint.

So, more pledges now than zombicide.

Wow, I may end up getting the Vampire Level. But I also want the case of old con sophies!

Those of who who want to pledge, listen here: pledge now.

More people pledging means more stuff, and more stuff means more people pledging... If you alredy made your mind and will take it, go there and make your pledge...

That way, you increase the pledge ammount and uncover new stuff.

Later, if you want to add new things, you only need to update your pledge value, serious, its non sense to wait for the last day

PS: most credit cards throw payments made after day 20 of the the mont, for the 10th day of the post-next month. That means, we will only have to pay for this kickstarter at october 10. Cmon guys, lets uncover more free stuff for everyone ^^

Someone has a little war band painted up that includes some of the figs, a giant and the Ogre warchief from the Mind Your Manor's stretch goal, and Tre's (closed) red box games kickstarter:

OK, now that looks great. Very thematic. Except for the whole shirtless-barbarians-meet-snow thing. Saving that pic as inspiration, regardless. Looks like it'd be perfect for something like that game that Alessio and Rick wrote recently.. ah yes - Fanticide.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
4 Stretchgoals
726 new backers
$143,446 new pledges
All in one day.

7 days left to go.

Brings the total number of miniatures which have already been added to the Vampire level to 155. Less than 65 cents per miniature and there are still another 16 which have already been revealed that will likely be added to that number relatively quickly.

Are you paying attention, Relic Knights/CMON?!?

This deal is already at the "Cannot Resist Even Though I Really Don't Need These Miniatures" level - how much more will they add!?!?!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
4 Stretchgoals
726 new backers
$143,446 new pledges
All in one day.

7 days left to go.

Brings the total number of miniatures which have already been added to the Vampire level to 155. Less than 65 cents per miniature and there are still another 16 which have already been revealed that will likely be added to that number relatively quickly.

Are you paying attention, Relic Knights/CMON?!?

This deal is already at the "Cannot Resist Even Though I Really Don't Need These Miniatures" level - how much more will they add!?!?!

Yes - but I didn't want to mention that in 4 days, they got one stretch goal, and it added fancy versions of the cards they already had. Might cause some people to give up in despair...

And this is almost assuredly going to be Kickstarter's first Million Dollar game!

Wow!

The value is unbelievable!

I am actually thinking 2 - but that is only if the potential well doesn't run dry first. There are still a lot of people who are waiting till next Friday to get into the mix - and there are others who are a little uncertain about the value compared to import issues, but this is quickly reaching that critical point where almost anyone who looks at it says "What the hell, for that deal I am in"

About half the comments on the KS comment stream are from people who haven't painted a miniature ever or haven't painted them since they were kids. Lots of new blood coming in that wasn't available to campaigns like KoW. There are also a crap load of great options which really are a good deal (Dragons for $10 which will retail for $25-30). This should drive the pledge per backer average upwards past the $200 mark when everyone gets around to making their list and checking it twice. So, if you compare the increases in backers over the last 7 days of a campaign (ends up being about double) and look at the number of backers currently (4592)...quick math, $1,836,800. Figure the extra $200,000 should come with just the excitement it should bring in the last couple days (what with yesterday bringing in nearly $150K).

Granted it could sputter and stall out, but today is already the second best day of the campaign again (not likely to be yesterday's numbers - but a lot of those are related to a massive boost from Paizo and Reaper partnering on the Pathfinder miniatures and the announcement made through their mailing lists, blogs, tweets and at GenCon).

 scipio.au wrote:
OK, now that looks great. Very thematic. Except for the whole shirtless-barbarians-meet-snow thing. Saving that pic as inspiration, regardless. Looks like it'd be perfect for something like that game that Alessio and Rick wrote recently.. ah yes - Fanticide.

The painter has a WIP on his blog:

http://killshotproductions.blogspot.ca/search?updated-max=2012-07-16T19:27:00-07:00&max-results=7

Thanks for the link. I've bookmarked it for later. (March, perhaps?)


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 Sean_OBrien wrote:

About half the comments on the KS comment stream are from people who haven't painted a miniature ever or haven't painted them since they were kids. Lots of new blood coming in that wasn't available to campaigns like KoW.

I've got a mate on another forum who has tentatively been getting back into mini painting after not having done any in 15 or so years. He's been hovering around things like the Mantic KoW KS, but went in on the Reaper one with one of the $1k level pledges. I worked out my projected spends with the link Reaper sent out today, and my "needs" comes to $437 so far and my wants to $879 ...so far. I'm only down for $125 right now, until I get paid this week and take care of RL priorities to see what I've got left.

Yep, I think the paint options really help in that regard...plus the huge variety and low prices.

For people who aren't too sure of themselves, they can paint a miniature...and if it doesn't come out like they want, just toss it aside and grab another. Works out fairly well for them. Plus the $1.50 paints are a good buy all around.

BTW - it is looking more and more like there will be another reveal yet today. Only $20K left on this particular stretch goal and apparently the last hour was an $8K hour (which, if you want to be disheartened was more than RK made all of today...and yesterday combined).

Having the iconics as a visible stretch goal was such a smart thing to do. After the Pathfinder goblins, I think this stretch goal will do a lot to get the word of mouth going among Pathfinder RPG fans.

 frozenwastes wrote:
Having the iconics as a visible stretch goal was such a smart thing to do. After the Pathfinder goblins, I think this stretch goal will do a lot to get the word of mouth going among Pathfinder RPG fans.

...and other players besides. Whereas many reaper sculpts tend to have a somewhat specific, 'retro' appeal, these appeal to a very broad audience.

Odd - I would have expected the million dollar goal to be a little more grand.

Though I do love me some pirates.

Schmapdi wrote:
Odd - I would have expected the million dollar goal to be a little more grand.

Though I do love me some pirates.

I am stoked about the pirates.. the sculpts are good I can wait to see whats in that bone pile and treasure chest..

I think the 1.2 million dollar goal is the big grand one - I recall one of the reaper folks saying something to the effect that that is the one they would most like to see.

Schmapdi wrote:
Odd - I would have expected the million dollar goal to be a little more grand.

Though I do love me some pirates.

I think it has more to do with their map than with actual numbers. The first map had a mausoleum which ended at $525K. The second map ends with a pile of gold and a treasure chest (two goals away...so probably $1.14 million). Then we move down into the caves of map three.

Still, this one is pretty good. Cthulhu fans have some Deep ones and...well, you have the pirates.


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czakk wrote:
I think the 1.2 million dollar goal is the big grand one - I recall one of the reaper folks saying something to the effect that that is the one they would most like to see.

I hope it isn't $1.2 million - that would put the next two goals at $100K each (or some combination there of). Unless it is something like all the remaining dragons...or a bunch of Warlord starter sets - that would be excruciating.

I'm glad I joined this Kickstarter, mostly for the dirt cheap cases (I'm getting either 3 or 4!), but as the stretch goals stack up, I'm getting less and less enthusiastic. I'm not sure I need a zombie-fighting pimp or a sexy pirate...

What about Pirate fighting pimps and sexy zombies?

Seriously though, Reaper is looking to grow the whole catalog. As with any full line company (not too many of them left) there will be a lot of stuff that appeals to some people and some stuff that appeals to a lot of people.

Luckily, at these prices, you can afford to have a few (even a few dozen) figures which are not quite what you are after. However, part of getting there from here does require releasing some thing which are appealing to different groups. Gets everyone on board as opposed to something like the Dwarven Adventurers campaign which had a good chunk of people very happy with their selection. Here you have a much larger chunk of people who are very happy with some of it - and are meh about other parts.

Even if you take out the meh - you are probably still down around $1 per figure or better.

JoshInJapan wrote:
I'm glad I joined this Kickstarter, mostly for the dirt cheap cases (I'm getting either 3 or 4!), but as the stretch goals stack up, I'm getting less and less enthusiastic. I'm not sure I need a zombie-fighting pimp or a sexy pirate...

Um, dude. They're just piling on more stuff for free. If you're not a fan of the extra, free models, just give them away. You get warm fuzzies and also get rid of Shaft, some kid at your local FLGS gets some free minis. Everyone wins!


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...or see if someone else wants to swap them for Orcs, or IMEF marines, or whatever you're into.

 scipio.au wrote:
Um, dude. They're just piling on more stuff for free. If you're not a fan of the extra, free models, just give them away. You get warm fuzzies and also get rid of Shaft, some kid at your local FLGS gets some free minis. Everyone wins!


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...or see if someone else wants to swap them for Orcs, or IMEF marines, or whatever you're into.

Oh, I'm not really complaining. There are piles and piles of awesome stuff in the Vampire deal, and I'm actually having a hard time deciding between all the awesome extras. Who knows, maybe I'll even find a use for the zombie fighters. I'm just hoping the $1mil goal is suitably awesome, I guess.

Wow. Man, if I still played RPGs, I would go Vampire with all the extras without a second thought. Sadly I have no use for most of these.

The clockwork dragon does have potential as a custom C'tan, though.

JoshInJapan wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:
Um, dude. They're just piling on more stuff for free. If you're not a fan of the extra, free models, just give them away. You get warm fuzzies and also get rid of Shaft, some kid at your local FLGS gets some free minis. Everyone wins!


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...or see if someone else wants to swap them for Orcs, or IMEF marines, or whatever you're into.

Oh, I'm not really complaining. There are piles and piles of awesome stuff in the Vampire deal, and I'm actually having a hard time deciding between all the awesome extras. Who knows, maybe I'll even find a use for the zombie fighters. I'm just hoping the $1mil goal is suitably awesome, I guess.

No worries. Actually, I'd imagine the zombies to be one of the easier things you could trade out to another person. There's both the current popularity of zombies, and also the fact that if you're using them, you tend to have a use for a lot of them.

Super close to next goal.. 930k here we come..

Now THAT is what I thought we'd see for the $1 million goal !!!!!!! AWESOME !!!!!!!

The sheer number of models in this is getting mental now. I have no need for most of these but it's sooooo tempting

And the iconics are funded and in.

And about 45 minutes from knocking off Sedition Wars...with 6 days to go.

Reduced my RK to 110 down from 270 and threw the difference into this. I'll use em for warhammer counts as stuff. Anyone know what gamebooks i should get to use these models? I've heard some already have game systems and this kickstarter has convinced me to support that aspect of reaper as well?

A vampire pledge has hit 0.55 cents a model now right?

So...any chance they'll add in the Savage Worlds or CAV models?

RogueRegault wrote:
So...any chance they'll add in the Savage Worlds or CAV models?

No idea, they won't comment (and had even hinted that Pathfinder would not appear, but they did)

6 days to find out


Oh and it just passed the Sedition Wars total


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A CHANGE to one of the high end pledges, you can now get a mini from this KS painted (any of them so far concidering the Lich dragon at $25 is the most expensive ooptional so foar)

Creator Reaper Miniatures less than a minute ago

$600 (3 of 6 left)
This Crown Jewel (see below) now includes that ability to get any one single Bones miniature painted from this Kickstarter although it will delay completion until after the March of 2013. Painted Liche Dragon? Why yes thank you!

"Crown Jewel - Vampire Level + Custom Reaper Studio paint job - Bring to life any current Reaper Miniature you desire as long as

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Reduced my RK to 110 down from 270 and threw the difference into this. I'll use em for warhammer counts as stuff. Anyone know what gamebooks i should get to use these models? I've heard some already have game systems and this kickstarter has convinced me to support that aspect of reaper as well?

Reaper has a fantasy skirmish game called Warlord. It has two rulebooks out though you do not require both to play. Armies are well balanced. It is a lot of fun to play. Simple easy to learn mechanics but don't think that means the game lacks depth. most rolls are a d10 + ability score and then compared to a target number. different model abilities and faction abilities keep armies feeling unique. And for the last little bit of awesome, Reaper provides a free online army creator at http://www.reapergames.com/warlord.php?display=ArmyCreator

For $20 for the first rulebook you can't go wrong giving the game a try.

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Reduced my RK to 110 down from 270 and threw the difference into this. I'll use em for warhammer counts as stuff. Anyone know what gamebooks i should get to use these models? I've heard some already have game systems and this kickstarter has convinced me to support that aspect of reaper as well?

Note that Reaper is 25mm and, while also heroic, often not quite so much as GW's 28mm heroic. Also flat, integrated bases. The regular guys will need to be "up-sized" through creative basing, etc.. ,to work with GW.

Monsters probably less.

finally joined the masses and jumped on the $100 dollar offer

 Zweischneid wrote:

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
Reduced my RK to 110 down from 270 and threw the difference into this. I'll use em for warhammer counts as stuff. Anyone know what gamebooks i should get to use these models? I've heard some already have game systems and this kickstarter has convinced me to support that aspect of reaper as well?

Note that Reaper is 25mm and, while also heroic, often not quite so much as GW's 28mm heroic. Also flat, integrated bases. The regular guys will need to be "up-sized" through creative basing, etc.. ,to work with GW.

Monsters probably less.

Not so much actually.

They are heroic 28s - at least anything from the past 10 years or so. The older stuff (Dungeon Dwellers and Early DHL) were 25 mm. Height wise - they match up just fine. A lot of their miniatures are more realistically proportioned though, less heroic I guess you could say...I prefer to say they lack clown shoes and base ball mitts. The vast majority of the stuff in this are newer items, with the exception of a few classic monsters.

Regarding the gamebooks - Warlord is their game, it is a skirmish type game though as opposed to massed combat. Pretty good overall. We may end up seeing it make an appearance yet in this drive too though (no reason to think as much - however at this point no reason not to think as much). They also are used by a lot of people who play games like Song of Blades in 28 mm and other independent wargames (Wargames Vault should give you a few ideas).

Going to break one million in 3 or 4 hours if the pace keeps up.

I wonder whether or not it'll go parabolic in the last few days.

Like the Mantic Kings of War one:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war#chart-daily

Or the Sedition Wars one:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/coolminiornot/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster#chart-daily

 frozenwastes wrote:
I wonder whether or not it'll go parabolic in the last few days.

Like the Mantic Kings of War one:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war#chart-daily

Or the Sedition Wars one:
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/coolminiornot/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster#chart-daily

All indications are yes, if you look at the various threads in various forums, there are a lot of people who are waiting till Friday to get in. As the rewards become even more insane, you will have a lot of people who have so far chosen not to get in get in. Also, there is a certain aspect of some people wanting to be part of something big - that causes a lot of people to break in the final hours when they see it build up. And of course, there are even some who are figuring that they will be able to make bank on eBay (which they likely should be able to make a profit...as long as not too many people decide to follow suit).

The only thing I am not too sure about though is that if you actually look at the chart for bones now:

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-an-evolution-of-gaming-min/#chart-exp-trend

It is already climbing insanely fast. Will it level off a bit than jump back up, will it continue at this rate, will it climb even faster at the end of the week?

Oh yah, and the $1,000,000 goal should be hit in about 3 hours.

I'm a little confused as to how the extra add-ons work. If I back at Vampire level and I want to get a bunch of the extra add-ons, how do I go about doing that?

 Noisy_Marine wrote:
I'm a little confused as to how the extra add-ons work. If I back at Vampire level and I want to get a bunch of the extra add-ons, how do I go about doing that?

Just add up the prices and you'll have your total, which you then change your total pledge to under "manage your pledge" in the right hand bar, near the pledge total etc.
Reaper will then send out a survey after the project ends in whichyou indicate exactly what you pledged for.
Has to do with the limitations of kickstarter.

Ok. Is it possible to pledge for Vampire and Liche level?

Yes. Any unlimited(=not crown jewel) pledge levels can be added to a single pledge. You simply add the $110 for liche to your vampire-level pledge - then fill out the undoubtedly extensive survey at the end.

Watch out with shipping: on undertaker, and any upgrade of a single type you get 5 or more of (so five different add-ons is fine, five times, say, deathsleet is not) you pay extra shipping.
If not, you only pay the highest shipping rate once ( so that's $25 for either liche or vampire); if you already pay that then you do not, for example, have to add $5 for shipping for a case; unless you get more than 4.

Pledge level has now reached

One Million Dollars

Trasvi wrote:
Pledge level has now reached

One Million Dollars

That is epic.. LMAO

There's actually a few Warlord figs in the set already, although they've been given the broccoli bases instead of slotta base tabs.

The stuff cuts so easily, I've had no problems removing the cast on bases with my sprue cutters and then cleaning up with a hobby knife.

If anyone in the midlands UK would be interested in splitting postage etc, send me a PM - only regular dakka posters, good trade rep preferred.

Same deal for SoCal. Looking to split a Vampire pledge? PM me, please.

Same, if anyone in Minnesota is already pledging on this I wouldn't mind piggy backing a few of the add-ons for some painting goodness. PM me if there is someone out there willing to go this route.

It is getting harder and harder to resist backing this kickstarter at the $100 level (and I will have to spend at least $107 because I will have to get the deep ones if I back it). I have recently started playing D&D so I would have a use for most of the miniatures I don't just want for painting, but there are just too many miniatures to paint at this point!

Out of curiosity, anyone know how many miniatures come with the $100 level at this point?

 General Seric wrote:
It is getting harder and harder to resist backing this kickstarter at the $100 level (and I will have to spend at least $107 because I will have to get the deep ones if I back it). I have recently started playing D&D so I would have a use for most of the miniatures I don't just want for painting, but there are just too many miniatures to paint at this point!

Out of curiosity, anyone know how many miniatures come with the $100 level at this point?

I believe at this point its well over 100 minis?


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Yeah its a boat load of minis

Vampire Level = Zombie Level + Ghast Level + Wraith Level + Mummy Level. Currently 182 minis: 181 Bones Plastic, and 1 Metal Sophie.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Same, if anyone in Minnesota is already pledging on this I wouldn't mind piggy backing a few of the add-ons for some painting goodness. PM me if there is someone out there willing to go this route.

Same here, only in the Massachusetts area - or really, anyone in the USA that wouldn't mind me adding in to get some of the giants and maybe the clockwork dragon.

PM me if you can help out - thanks!

Genius Alph, that's pretty much what I was looking for too A thanks to Sparkywtf who already replied for me. Woot, a couple pretty models for me to paint for fun!

Anyone know if these match up in scale to Descent mini's by FFG, or/and Zombicide?

They are heroic / 28mm for the most part.

The kickstarter has hit boingboing, should be popping up other places now that it hit a million dollars: http://boingboing.net/2012/08/20/rpg-miniatures-kickstarter-hit.html

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Anyone know if these match up in scale to Descent mini's by FFG, or/and Zombicide?

They are the same size as Descent figures but noticibly different in style and proportions. The monsters should be ok though.

Cheers, will have to think this one over, might be a great way to get spares, new heroes, and monsters to fudge in via the Descent conversion kit, even though I have none of the 1st edition boxes.

I was thinking about using them for Descent as well. What is the conversion kit? Will it allow me to make stat cards for new heroes or monsters? How is 2nd edition different from 1st?

Note sure as I didn't own first edition. The conversion kit is a box you can buy that has cards and the bits and bobs you need to use all your 1st edition stuff in 2nd edition.

I'd need to check as I am assuming that would mean new versions of the hero cards, all the equipment and the monster rules cards as I believe there was a change to the rules systems between editions, not sure the 1st ed stuff is applicable.

If I am right and it does, I can fudge the models used to represent absent heroes, and use counts as for monsters, or even pick up other reaper equivalents as time passes.

I plan on making a mercenaries fandex for 40k and fantasy with these. Gonna take forever, but it seems like a fun project.

Mmmmmm...ummy

 General Seric wrote:
Out of curiosity, anyone know how many miniatures come with the $100 level at this point?

187 at this time.
...You could have tried counting them in the picture on the main KS page yourself, you know

 lucasbuffalo wrote:
. Anyone know what gamebooks i should get to use these models? I've heard some already have game systems and this kickstarter has convinced me to support that aspect of reaper as well?

Reapers Warlord does cover alot of these models, but not all. You're best bet is with a "Generic" game system that allows you to stat any miniature for the game regardless of who makes it. With the current selection of figs being so varied, you're also best off going with a Warband size skirmish game that doesn't require ranks and ranks of figures.

My favorite game like this is Song of Blades and Heroes. You can see our club's current campaign for this game by going to the link in my sig. I've raved about the game often, but you can see my most recent explanation and gushings here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/469514.page

Long story shot, it's dirt cheap, easy to learn, and really fast playing with a unique "gambling" activation mechanic that makes every choice count.

Also, consider the upcoming rulset "Fanticide". It's got a bit more crunch than SOng of Blades, but is reportedly also a very nice generic warband skirmish system.

Someone over on the reaper forums did a little diorama of the bones guy digging up the dracolich:

It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

Running out of rewards I bet

 kenshin620 wrote:

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

Running out of rewards I bet

or it's starting to cost too much. I think they are trying to keep to a timeline, and the more rewards they add, the more it costs them to make sure all of that extra stuff is ready to ship by the promised deadline. I know they're also working on transfering production to texas, so with sufficient rewards, they're jus dangling enough stuff to get those couple extra dollars to get a texas factory set up sooner. It's clear kickstarter has exceeded their wildest expectations, I'm suspicious it's also exceeded their ability to handle the orders and order sizes.

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

Reaper answered this one here:

http://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?/topic/45090-kickstarter-discussion-thread/page__st__2400__p__627180#entry627180


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 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

Running out of rewards I bet

Given a back catalog of somewhere around 4,000 SKUs - I don't think that will be happening anytime soon.


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 poda_t wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

Running out of rewards I bet

or it's starting to cost too much. I think they are trying to keep to a timeline, and the more rewards they add, the more it costs them to make sure all of that extra stuff is ready to ship by the promised deadline. I know they're also working on transfering production to texas, so with sufficient rewards, they're jus dangling enough stuff to get those couple extra dollars to get a texas factory set up sooner. It's clear kickstarter has exceeded their wildest expectations, I'm suspicious it's also exceeded their ability to handle the orders and order sizes.

See the thread above - they did need to adjust the pledge goals upwards to deal with the increased cost of fulfillment (that is a lot of packing, shipping and general moving stuff about). They also have shifted some goals around - quite likely to stick to a schedule of some form (they have a partner, Piazo, now who they are probably going to coordinate an email blitz with in the next few days). They also were getting more than a few comments of people being overwhelmed by the various options - both the choices and the option costs.

I am not too worried about their ability to handle the orders though. Every time I have ever seen them do things, it is generally run well. I do think this is much bigger than they had expected it to get as well though. While they probably still do have a bunch of goals which are planned and ready to go, I have a feeling that some of them might have been pushed back so they can have a greater impact when they do come in.

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

I believe the double-goal section we just went through was to get "out" many of the things they want to make/include, as well as to make the KS into essentially unskippable value.

 scipio.au wrote:

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

I believe the double-goal section we just went through was to get "out" many of the things they want to make/include, as well as to make the KS into essentially unskippable value.

Yep, though I am pretty sure we will see it again. Sort of a calm before the storm.

Saturday should be interesting. Reaper has said they want to try and time it so that the last goal they reveal gets funded at the last minute. Not sure if they had something in mind for that day in particular, but from past KS campaigns, trying to figure out where the last will end up that precisely is nearly impossible. The last one I watched close out (RBG) had a mad dash in the last hour or so to make almost 10% of their pledges, and he ended up sort of pulling the wolves out of thin air.

 scipio.au wrote:

 bbb wrote:
It seems like they're slowing down the stretch goals. There's now 100K between them, but they aren't offering both free minis as well as additional purchase minis.

Anyone know why they're increasing the stretch goal levels and decreasing the goal rewards?

I believe the double-goal section we just went through was to get "out" many of the things they want to make/include, as well as to make the KS into essentially unskippable value.

This. They were probably low-balling their production costs with the double-stretch goals and are now recouping that.

The advantage of front-ending like that is that it allowed their kickstarter to hit it's stride at a much earlier date than usual. Smart move.

Seems to have worked well for them. Today was the best day so far in amount pledged. ~142k in a day.

Will this push us over 200 minis for 100 dollars?

 scarletsquig wrote:


This. They were probably low-balling their production costs with the double-stretch goals and are now recouping that.

The advantage of front-ending like that is that it allowed their kickstarter to hit it's stride at a much earlier date than usual. Smart move.

I don't know about this. There explanation does make sense. When there were only a few hundred backers, You only have to pay for the molds and a few hundred copies. Now, every goal that is reached is more backers, for which they have to give not only the new goal, but also copies of all the other miniatures.

It's possible they were low balling, but it could just be what they said.

I think it will be right at 200 for $100 not counting Sophie and Mr. Bones. That might have been what they were working towards.

The remainder of the goals might end up being options - big stuff.


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Oh yah...and that wasn't just one $100K goal today...it was 2, with 5 days left to go.

The $100 pledge keeps getting better and better. I'd be curious how many retailers are doing the $300 level for inventory.

I don't think they were lowballing. I think they were simply putting each stretch goal at a realistic amount given the number of backers at the vampire level needed to reach it and how many figures they'd have to make of those. Now when a new vampire supporter pledges, they have way, way more miniatures to make for that same $100, So they need more money between stretch goals to cover everything the more people join up.

I'm sure this was all mathematically figured out beforehand. From what I understand, the owners of Reaper are two brothers who are both accountants. I'm pretty sure they know their craft.

Now that this campaign is winding down (in terms of time, if not money), I'm thinking about what I want to get for my pledge money. I'm actually having a hard time deciding-- not because there are too many things I want but because there are too few things I can use in an exisiting WHFB/KoW army. Here's hoping the next add on minis are spectacular and take away my need to choose!

I'd love to see some kind of "Vampire" equivalent for all the add-on extras. Maybe at a slight discount, but just to make life easier. Even if they offered it as an option on the last day or in the last 12 hours or something.
Because...

JoshInJapan wrote:
Now that this campaign is winding down (in terms of time, if not money), I'm thinking about what I want to get for my pledge money. I'm actually having a hard time deciding-- not because there are too many things I want but because there are too few things I can use in an exisiting WHFB/KoW army. Here's hoping the next add on minis are spectacular and take away my need to choose!

The sheer variety of miniatures in the Vampire set is not really appropriate for someone collecting for a mass battles game. The target market for the figures are people using them for RPGs, skirmish games or to paint for enjoyment, relaxation and display. Might I suggest looking into skirmish gaming? There are lots of good free rules sets out there and some amazing small press rules for very good prices. Let me know if you (or anyone else reading this) wants any specific recommendations beyond the few below.

Free ones:

FUBAR - it's a complete game that fits on one page.
http://thegamesshed.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/fubar-medieval/
Further fantasy expansion for FUBAR based on LotR (what fantasy isn't?). It should give you an idea of the ways you can extend FUBAR to do what you want.
http://thegamesshed.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/fubar-the-war-of-the-ring-2nd-edition.pdf

Coreheim - a fan compiled and edited updated version of the Mordheim rules in a single document:
http://www.coreheim.com/

Hordes of the Things - NOT a skirmish game, but one with a very low model count. I bet the kickstarter could easily be used to make atleast a couple forces for this game. This is a classic game from 1991 that used to be a commercial product, but is now free.
http://www.wrg.me.uk/WRG.net/History/HOTT2.pdf

No Quarter - One of the classic free alternatives to WFB. What people may not know is that the game functions just fine if you take tiny 4 model units for gruntz and your heroes. It works great as a skirmish game.
http://wargamesunlimited.net/noquarter/index.html

Sword Play by Two Hour Wargames - a skirmish set of rules with a reaction system where you check to see how your figures react to certain events. Ideal for solo play.
http://www.twohourwargames.com/swordplay.html

Alright, now some small press and PDF options:

Song of Blades & Heroes - a great simple design with a good price tag and an innovative activation/turn structure. There's been a few expansions. If you search DakkaDakka, you'll find more info.
http://www.ganeshagames.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_6&products_id=7

Warrior Heroes: Armies and Adventures - a hybrid RPG and miniature skirmish game. Uses a variation of the reaction system in Sword Play.
http://www.twohourwargames.com/wahearandad.html

I just realized I didn't cover anything for the Chronoscope Sci-fi releases. There are even more options for those than for Fantasy.

We are going to be using the Chronoscope stuff for Dark Heresy (FFG) and even Necromunda.

Should be great!

I know I'm getting them for painting and display, so all the large options like dragons are incredible.

JoshInJapan wrote:
Now that this campaign is winding down (in terms of time, if not money), I'm thinking about what I want to get for my pledge money. I'm actually having a hard time deciding-- not because there are too many things I want but because there are too few things I can use in an exisiting WHFB/KoW army. Here's hoping the next add on minis are spectacular and take away my need to choose!

Not sure what the prices are like in Japan for GW products - but if they enjoy bending you guys over as much as they do the Australians...if you were a Tomb King's player (or were getting ready to start) - this would fit the bill nicely.

The Australian prices for various mummy heroes are $20+

You get 4 mummies as part of the base Vampire package - 3 of which would work well enough as characters (the 4th being more of a movie mummy).

The Australian price for swarms is $33 for 2.

You get a set of 12 vermin in the base package - 6 swarms and 6 bigguns.

The Australian price for a Tomb King Giant is $96

The Reaper Bone giant is a $10 option. You can even pick up the khopesh from the Boneyard to keep with the GW weapons.

You also get most the pieces needed to make a Casket of Souls and a bunch of skeletons you could hack up for bits (a good bit cheaper than hacking up GW plastics). That is just off the top of my head of things which I know would fit. I haven't played WHFB for a very long time though, but I would imagine you will see similiar stuff in the VC armies, possibly Chaos and Ogres too.

Martin Jones 18 minutes ago

I can personally confirm that I am willing and able to paint up the dracoliche for the 600.00 level.

There is a reward where for 600 dollars you can get any of the minis painted by a pro painter!

[edit] Hmm they've almost sold out, only 1 left.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:


Not sure what the prices are like in Japan for GW products - but if they enjoy bending you guys over as much as they do the Australians...if you were a Tomb King's player (or were getting ready to start) - this would fit the bill nicely.

The Australian prices for various mummy heroes are $20+

You get 4 mummies as part of the base Vampire package - 3 of which would work well enough as characters (the 4th being more of a movie mummy).

The Australian price for swarms is $33 for 2.

You get a set of 12 vermin in the base package - 6 swarms and 6 bigguns.

The Australian price for a Tomb King Giant is $96

The Reaper Bone giant is a $10 option. You can even pick up the khopesh from the Boneyard to keep with the GW weapons.

You also get most the pieces needed to make a Casket of Souls and a bunch of skeletons you could hack up for bits (a good bit cheaper than hacking up GW plastics). That is just off the top of my head of things which I know would fit. I haven't played WHFB for a very long time though, but I would imagine you will see similiar stuff in the VC armies, possibly Chaos and Ogres too.

Japan prices, while not quite as bad as in Australia, are high enough that it's cheaper for me to order from The Warstore and have things shipped internationally.

The basic Vampire package is awesome, and is the sole reason I backed the Delves Kickstarter last month. I'm just hoping for an awesome new monster so I don't have to agonize over what extras to get for my pledge.

They will do nice for skermish games, Dungeon Delves, Fantacide, and other such rules sets.


I for one welcome our new miniature overlords.

Next goal revealed, more iconics, should trigger another paizo.com bump.



Then we go back to big monsters, and see what is in the evil portal thingy!

Soooo mad that I don't have an extra $100 laying around.

The quantity and quality of minis at this price is astounding.

I may have to start setting aside $300 a year specifically for kickstarters.

 Aerethan wrote:
Soooo mad that I don't have an extra $100 laying around.

The quantity and quality of minis at this price is astounding.

I may have to start setting aside $300 a year specifically for kickstarters.

I know right.. This is crazy..

There is a new faq video up. The big news from that is you will be able to swap the motorcycle sophie in the vampire level into 25 bucks worth of addons.

That's crazy crazy good.

New Bones update

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLzrWFJTLvg&feature=player_embedded

(not sure if I can get video to work on here)

but basically there will be a pledge manager, using paypal after the KS

PLEASE add your pledge now if you can to nlock cool stuff for all (using the pledge manager will NOT count towards the total)

and for those that don't like Sophie (the succubus on the bike) you WILL be able to swap her for $25 of Bones stuff, which is cool if you don't want her

That means for 100 bucks you can get all of the bones minis and get a huge dracolich. Or a case. Or two other dragons. Etc etc etc.

That is crazy good and shows they have really been listening to the backers. I know it was one of my biggest concerns as I had absolutely no need / want for the Kickstarter Sophie. I will be turning this into another case for sure! Reaper really came through on this one.

Thats pretty awesome, seems like Reaper just made the $100 pledge way better for really no reason at all...

czakk wrote:
There is a new faq video up. The big news from that is you will be able to swap the motorcycle sophie in the vampire level into 25 bucks worth of addons.

That's crazy crazy good.

YES! That settles it--I'm getting some dragons!

They must be balking at the idea of casting so many metal models...

BobtheInquisitor wrote:

czakk wrote:
There is a new faq video up. The big news from that is you will be able to swap the motorcycle sophie in the vampire level into 25 bucks worth of addons.

That's crazy crazy good.

YES! That settles it--I'm getting some dragons!

They must be balking at the idea of casting so many metal models...

Probably a little of the realization of the margins. Even at the discounted price, the plastics are probably worth more sold to them then the metal Sophie would be. I think they do something on the order of 7,000 miniatures every day, so a few thousand more isn't too bad in the grand scheme of things (not a huge company - but still, they could bust those out over a weekend shift).

Wow! You can swap Sophie for a $25? That's just crazy good. I didn't really need some big-tittied bike chick for my mini collection. The PC's would have been really suspicious if I shoe horned her into a game.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:



YES! That settles it--I'm getting some dragons!

They must be balking at the idea of casting so many metal models...

Casting probably not an issue, they have bad ass casters, they can do 75k minis a day (source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXxMY1JH8w @ 7:50).


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 pretre wrote:
Wow! You can swap Sophie for a $25? That's just crazy good. I didn't really need some big-tittied bike chick for my mini collection. The PC's would have been really suspicious if I shoe horned her into a game.

Polymorph her into a 25 dollar dracolich then Or 20 more orcs.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and for those that don't like Sophie (the succubus on the bike) you WILL be able to swap her for $25 of Bones stuff, which is cool if you don't want her

This is awesome. Now to decide what I want instead...

Wow, that pretty much sells it for me, $25, so i can now get the deep ones and a dragon for the $100 pledge.

The fact that Sophie has become swappable is tempting me to do 2 levels of this.

Tempting... but not yet.
I WILL be looking forward to the new beasties that are coming up though. PLEASE more huge monsters

holy gak

no way a bank would ever give 1.4 million

congrats you guys, like OMG

Random 28mm demon chick on motorbike...

*or*

Freaking gigantic 12" tall zombie dragon of ultimate awesomeness...

Hmm... not a tough choice, there!

I have no use for these minis! Must... resist... pledging...

@lord_blackfang: how can you resist a 12" tall Zombie dragon for $100 WITH 200 free extras!!!

@Scarletsquig: Zombie Dragon!! Seriously, who actually wants Sophie now that she is allowed to be swapped out. Cannot wait for more stuff, ironically, I only want the more expensive stuff (as I am only in for the $100 + postage) now as the undead dragon (and maybe the clockwork dragon!!) are the only extras I am getting

Why not the pathfinder red dragon also? It looks pretty good to me. Personally I'm in it for one of everything except the paints. I'll grab 2 cases as well, as at this rate I'll need both to fit all the smaller figs into.

It's not hard to justify a pledge, when you look at what you're getting compared to the existing RRP. Most of the bigger kits are $40 - $60!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have no use for these minis! Must... resist... pledging...

I agree, I have zero use for the models from a gaming standpoint. But the painter in me, and the deal seeker in me want this so badly. Beautiful models, in plastic, for little money. What's not to love?

Also, did anyone else watch the Reaper Con metal model production videos? I found it most entertaining and informative. now we just need a better look into the process of mold making for injection molding miniatures.

Gah I still don't know whether to pledge on this or not. I don't have much use for them except for the 1 tree which I could use in Bloodbowl. Could the other be used in Iron Kingdoms?

Is this the biker Sophie everyone is talking about?

And the female frost giant on page 3 looks so amazing I want to come with an excuse to get one.

I resisted this up until I found out you can swap out Sophie that sealed the deal for me and I'm in - swapping Sophie for Orcpocalypse bargain! (as if it wasn't already insanely good)

 Amaya wrote:
Is this the biker Sophie everyone is talking about?

No.

It's the one on the bike..

 Amaya wrote:
Is this the biker Sophie everyone is talking about?

And the female frost giant on page 3 looks so amazing I want to come with an excuse to get one.

That is the one being talked about. It is included in the $100 bundle, with an option to exchange it for $25 worth of the addon models.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have no use for these minis! Must... resist... pledging...

I'm in the same boat. I don't know what I'd use them for... but there are so many of them for so little money!!!

The option to change out Sophie is what tipped it over from "man, that's an amazing deal, I should probably get it" into "I'll eat ramen for a month or sell a kidney if I have to" territory. I figure anything I don't want to keep will get painted and thrown on ebay, and maybe I'll try out Song of Blades and Heroes with the rest.

And in the middle of the night...

What an insane amount of minis for the monet... I... must... wh...

Hey, a Hydra. That can be used for WHFB, right? And I bet the GW one isn't $15.

The GW one doesn't look as nice, either, and trying to glue all those metal heads on is a royal pain in the rear.

The trade out Sophie deal means I am in too. Come on folks bundle and join us.... Bundle amd join us.

I'm already in for $200. At this point, I may even just boost my pledge by $50 or so, double up on vampire, and switch out the Sophies to fill in all the big extras. And at that level, I may even skip out on the cases, as it'd be $100+ just in cases in order to get even close to fitting everything. The number of minis in this is pretty much insane. How durable are the minis by themselves? Would it be okay to just invest in some large clear plastic cases to try to fit everything, or is foam really the only way to go?

The minis are extremely durable. You might just need a sack to throw them in depending on how picky you are about your basing.

http://www.playunplugged.com/2012/03/review-reaper-bones/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tb1otMRZbk

http://miniaturesforroleplaying.blogspot.com/2012/08/reaper-bones-dwarf-review-and-painting.html

http://blackwarden.blogspot.com/2012/03/reaper-bones-review.html

http://beinggiant.blogspot.com/2012/08/reaper-bones-review-part-1.html

http://flamingtales.blogspot.com/2012/03/reaper-bones-review.html

http://1000footgeneral.blogspot.com/2012/08/are-reaper-bones-any-good.html - Very good demonstration of the durability of painted miniatures.

Ok, so I'm in for the $100 deal, and I want 2 more of the fire packs at $5 each, plus international shipping. I also want to swap out my Sophie biker for another £25 of stuff.

I've made my pledge for the right amount ($135) but where do I specify the options? It down't seem like I can specify anything other than the basic $100 deal.

Does this happen via email afterwards???

This kickstarter has been pretty fun, basically just promised to give someone 100 bucks and once or twice a day they come back and give me more for my 100 bucks. If only everything worked that way

 ArbitorIan wrote:
Ok, so I'm in for the $100 deal, and I want 2 more of the fire packs at $5 each, plus international shipping. I also want to swap out my Sophie biker for another £25 of stuff.

I've made my pledge for the right amount ($135) but where do I specify the options? It down't seem like I can specify anything other than the basic $100 deal.

Does this happen via email afterwards???

Once the campaign has finished, you should get an email from Reaper with an access code to their pledge manager. That will allow you to specify the specific items that you want to get with your pledge amount. It should happen fairly quick after all the various transactions are complete, as Reaper has it already ready to go (built by Kit - their in-house IT guy).

So is this gonna be the most-funded non-video-game gamer kickstarter so far?

Already is.

Now it is after the video games and tech stuff. The next thing on the Top Funded list is the Elevation Dock at $1.464 million (2-3 hours time) and after that it is the Shadow Run Returns video game thing at $1.836 million. That might take until tomorrow to beat.

Very happy about swapping sophie out for a giant undead dragon

 SilverMK2 wrote:
Very happy about swapping sophie out for a giant undead dragon

I wonder what the shipping time is going to be like for the giant undead dragon? Hopefully Reaper plans for the increased demand. Though I suspect they must have planned for that nonsense or they wouldnt have offered the sophie swap

Has the thing even been sculpted yet, all I see is concept art.

I've not seen anything but the art - however given how good everything else is I don't have too many reservations

Forgive me if it has been ansered on the previous 16 pages.
But is it true that except the Sophie, all miniatures are unlimited, even the transparent fire and ghost ones?
Not interested in a pledge, but I need those and a few others in plastic!

Yeah... but they won't be 50 cents each in regular distribution

Sophie is limited edition, all other are not.

You can purchase additional sets of the different bonus models (if you have already made the 100 dollar pledge) - as many as you want (though I think if you want more than 5 lots of any set you need to contact them about extra shipping).

Gah like others have said, I have zero use for most of this stuff, but man that is a hell of a deal.

My worry here is that the Walmart Pickle jar effect will hit. Total market saturation. Everyone who wants bones will have all they need, and be able to dump extras on people who maybe would buy a few, and who would shell out a lot for the metal models after this?

When walmart sold giant cheap pickles in a jar, it cut into the profits of the rest of the picklemakers line, since nobody ever thought they needed pickles.

I am totally bummed about not being able to get in on this, due to lack of finances and having pledged for SedWars.

But....I am really excited about all these models that will be out on the market for me to buy later for games like Song of Blades and Heroes and when I finally take my turn as GM for my buddies!

OMG 1.6 mil and I am getting 200 minis for 100 bucks. Amazing!

Can we get this forwarded to Infinity?? Anyone know and infinity rep who might find this interesting?

btw - I bought in at $100 plus some extras.

Go for it guys, its totally worth it!!!!!

 pduggie wrote:
My worry here is that the Walmart Pickle jar effect will hit. Total market saturation. Everyone who wants bones will have all they need, and be able to dump extras on people who maybe would buy a few, and who would shell out a lot for the metal models after this?

When walmart sold giant cheap pickles in a jar, it cut into the profits of the rest of the picklemakers line, since nobody ever thought they needed pickles.

are there that many companies other then reaper making similar models? Also I dont think everyone who might want bones knows about the kickstarter. There are A LOT of gamers that dont stay active on forums and such and dont see the ads for the kick starter. Everytime I've mentioned the kickstarter to people in my area no one seems to know about it.

Pretty sure this won't kill the line. DIdn't they say they were going to look to sell 2 model packs for like $3 when this is over?

 ironicsilence wrote:

 pduggie wrote:
My worry here is that the Walmart Pickle jar effect will hit. Total market saturation. Everyone who wants bones will have all they need, and be able to dump extras on people who maybe would buy a few, and who would shell out a lot for the metal models after this?

When walmart sold giant cheap pickles in a jar, it cut into the profits of the rest of the picklemakers line, since nobody ever thought they needed pickles.

are there that many companies other then reaper making similar models? Also I dont think everyone who might want bones knows about the kickstarter. There are A LOT of gamers that dont stay active on forums and such and dont see the ads for the kick starter. Everytime I've mentioned the kickstarter to people in my area no one seems to know about it.

That is the hard part. Getting the word out. Most people even on Dakka only read the forums that they normally read. Most will not see this. Maybe heading to the FLGS and letting other people know. I know my Sci-Fi troopers will be painted to work with Sedition Wars, and many others are being purchased, so I can learn to paint with the airbrush, and when the results are good enough, I will sell them as painted on Ebay. Even if I never do that, it is still cheap entertainment.

 ironicsilence wrote:

 pduggie wrote:
My worry here is that the Walmart Pickle jar effect will hit. Total market saturation. Everyone who wants bones will have all they need, and be able to dump extras on people who maybe would buy a few, and who would shell out a lot for the metal models after this?

When walmart sold giant cheap pickles in a jar, it cut into the profits of the rest of the picklemakers line, since nobody ever thought they needed pickles.

are there that many companies other then reaper making similar models? Also I dont think everyone who might want bones knows about the kickstarter. There are A LOT of gamers that dont stay active on forums and such and dont see the ads for the kick starter. Everytime I've mentioned the kickstarter to people in my area no one seems to know about it.

This.

Hard to believe, but most gamers are just not that plugged in. If it isn't in their local game store, they don't know it exists. If their local game store stops carrying something, they assume it went out of business (seen that happen more than once).

Even with in those who are involved in the Kickstarter, I don't think you will see saturation. There are a lot of people who are tapped out, or nearly so right now who are only in for $100-200. They would love to pledge more, but just don't have the resources available. Others like one option or another from a set which is listed - but not enough to buy multiples of it (for example, the most recent Swamp things have a snake warrior in it - I plan on getting enough of those to do a unit or three...however, if I also didn't want the lizard men and swamp troll en masse - it would be more cost effective to wait till they were retail).


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drazz wrote:
Pretty sure this won't kill the line. DIdn't they say they were going to look to sell 2 model packs for like $3 when this is over?

Definately won't be killing the line. Bones currently go for a couple bucks a pack for regular sized figures. They are refitting their production facilities and purchasing tooling to move the production and mold manufacture in house so that they can play around a bit more with things as well (contract tooling and production - even in China adds up pretty quickly when you are looking at converting a few thousand miniatures to plastic).

I agree very much with people not being plugged in.

At my FLGS, most people only found out about the KS last night because I was on my laptop and popped it up (they did know about zombicide because someone bought it), but never heard of mantic, SW, reaper bones KS, and many of the others.

Most of these are people the same age as me, just hate all the forums. If I don't post it on our facebook group for the store, they don't hear about it.

I personally was pretty late to the reaper party. I saw the kick starter when it first got going and wasnt really interested as the pledges didnt have much in it that I actually wanted. If it wasnt for people continuing to talk about it here I wouldnt have given it much of a second thought. Even though I'm in at the 100 dollar pledge there are only a handful of models I actually want. I'm only in it for the stupid good deal. A dollar a model for stuff I may or may not one day need / use is a pretty good deal.... 50 cents a model is an awesome deal.

But again I wouldn't have gotten in on the deal if the thread wasn't growing and growing and growing forcing me to give it a second look.

Most of my gamer friends who dont spend any time on forums didnt have any idea about the reaper kick starter...or any idea what kick starter even was for that matter


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I agree very much with people not being plugged in.

At my FLGS, most people only found out about the KS last night because I was on my laptop and popped it up (they did know about zombicide because someone bought it), but never heard of mantic, SW, reaper bones KS, and many of the others.

Most of these are people the same age as me, just hate all the forums. If I don't post it on our facebook group for the store, they don't hear about it.

I'd love to see a single for info only thread on currently active gaming related kick starters as I'm still sad I missed out on zombicide. Granted it would be a ton of work to keep it going and updated. Assuming of course that we continue to see an influx of companies jumping on kick starter while the times are good

 ironicsilence wrote:
Most of my gamer friends who dont spend any time on forums didnt have any idea about the reaper kick starter...or any idea what kick starter even was for that matter

But you were sure to twist their arms and get them in right?

I actually have a large portion of the miniatures already in metal - including most of the big ones so far (with the exception of course of the new art...think we are around 25 of those). However, I also have all the existing Bones figures - many of them in multiples. It is so much easier to work with than metal when it comes to cutting them up and converting things. Many of the metal figures are parts of back burner projects which wouldn't likely get moved up anytime soon just to avoid having to cut all the metal. Now, I am looking forward to getting a good sized Giant Army - lizardmen that aren't comical - yuan-ti - And of course dragons which I don't need a back brace to move around.

Even if I didn't end up using 2/3 of the figures which are currently in the Vampire Package - it is still a little over a dollar a figure for those. Luckily though, I should be able to use the vast majority of them...and the ones I can't use will become parts for stuff that can be used.

Argh!

Now I "only" want the add on giants, the clock work dragon and the Hydra...

Sheesh!

 Alpharius wrote:
Argh!

Now I "only" want the add on giants, the clock work dragon and the Hydra...

Sheesh!

If it helps with your price calculations as to whether or not you should get in - Reaper had said that the vast majority of these will be roughly double the option price when they go to Retail. A $15 option like the hydra will retail for about $30. Add up what you want, figure in the Vampire buy in and then compare it to twice the option cost. If it is less than twice the option cost...it is a good deal.

You will likely be able to recoup some of your Vampire pledge as well. Even if you just end up throwing the whole lot of little stuff in a single auction on eBay - you should be able to get back $50-75 without too many problems. If you sold them one at a time - you could probably get a dollar each (half retail for man-sized figures).

The penny arcade guys just mentioned the ks

It it impossible that the kickstarter will saturate the market, that's all crazy speculation.

-First of all, it will not kill the need for metal miniatures any more then Bones existing solely in the store. Most of the people wanting figures like these will either be getting Bones, or the old metal reaper minis, which I assume will be phased out as they are made in Bones material. The cheap price point of Bones will sell them over metal, and if the line has staying power, they will sell many, many more of each figure than the Kickstarter is moving right now.

Look at the dark Heaven Legends line. I can;t imagine how many figures that line has moved over it's lifespan, and all of those will be resold in Bones!

-Second, for every guy that puts down $100 on the Kickstarter, there are many more like me who will be buying single packs as they come out. Sure, the Kickstarter is a steal, but only for those who can drop a big chunk of money all at once. I can't do that, but will happily spend 3-4 dollars on the packs off the shelf.

-Also, I echo the fact that just because this forum knows about the Kickstarters, everyone knows. That's not true. if not for Dakkadakka, I would never know about a single of these games being on KS outside of a mention on Boardgamegeek or something. I'll bet Sedition Wars will sell a ton more copies of the boxed sets of the game in stores and online to people who have never even heard of it after the release as they did during the kickstarter.

There's definitely a tendency to extrapolate how we find out and experience things to the larger world. Such a view is rarely, if ever, accurate.

There are tons and tons of people out there who don't go on web forums, read web comics, or even know what a "kickstarter" is.

Metal stock sitting and not selling is also a non issue for Reaper as they can simply take any metal miniature stock for a product code that is not moving rapidly and put it in the pot and melt it down to be cast as a product code that is moving rapidly. So even if they "cannibalize" a given metal miniature's sales with Bones, it's no big deal as they can simply reallocate the metal.

Now a store, with metal versions on the wall at four times the price-- that might be hard to move.

All I know is that now that they are moving a lot of their models over to Bones, I am happy. From time to time I like to get cool looking Dark Heaven figures just to paint, even if I will never use them in a game. But I have to be picky at the price, because it cuts into actual gaming minis I want to buy.

Now that some of the coolest figures in the line(as well as from Warlord) will be offered as Bones, I can buy twice the figures I used to, or at the very least get some of the ones I was on the hedge about. That's what this KS means for me personally.

There are tons and tons of people out there who don't go on web forums, read web comics, or even know what a "kickstarter" is.

Very true. I have been in the hobby since 40K 2nd Edition, and the first Kickstarter I ever heard of was the OGRE one, and SedWars is the first I have ever put money towards. Every KS other than the OGRE one I heard about only because I frequent Dakkadakka.

Ohhh very nice!

The question mark hehe... it is...

Something else eh,
Seeing that I am getting this in the Vampire Pack (Awesome!) the randomness is even more intriguing.

Oooh, I like these new reveals. When they said they were only unveiling one goal at a time for the last few days, I'd assumed it meant they were only showing the very next goal, not 2 goals ahead like they've been doing. Looks like it's still 2 goals ahead, it's just part of that goal is a secret until you hit that goal. Should build a little bit of "what's behind door #1" style excitement

Well, I'm in for Vampire. I'd like to get Liche and get all the old Sophies, but I can't pass up Vampire.

It better not be the Owlbear lol, I've got my fingers crossed for the Alicorn. Would make more sense as they were both sculpted by Sandra Garrity, and they have been putting a LOT of her stuff in as extras.

I think I have managed to resist contributing. While it is a stunning deal I have no need for a single fantasy model and would much rather fund dreamforge at the moment. Still, it is great fun watching the money grow!

Sure you have a need them. Pledge $1 and then buy the 1/2 price paints and the $25 case.....

 pduggie wrote:
My worry here is that the Walmart Pickle jar effect will hit. Total market saturation. Everyone who wants bones will have all they need, and be able to dump extras on people who maybe would buy a few, and who would shell out a lot for the metal models after this?

When walmart sold giant cheap pickles in a jar, it cut into the profits of the rest of the picklemakers line, since nobody ever thought they needed pickles.

The online Kickstarting community who is also willing to drop $100+ on this stuff is a very small percentage of the overall miniatures market. I'm sure it'll cut into Reaper pucahses for about 8,000 people, but then again they can churn out, what? 75,000 figures in a weekend or something ridiculous like that? Someone's buying those. And if the Bones range is currently 1/3 of all the stuff they ship..

Ok, looks like I can contribute!



From the Reaper Facebook page, though unlikely to be the real deal.

Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

Yeah, Reaper pretty much said that's a small part of another mini, so I doubt that will be the ???

It's an owlbear:

I may have to pick up enough of those Owlbears to make a KoW unit of them.

Wasn't very impressed with this... until I looked up different pics on google. They are a nice little odd monster.

 Makaleth wrote:
Wasn't very impressed with this... until I looked up different pics on google. They are a nice little odd monster.

And only 3 bucks each!

Yeah. I'm loving that griffon.

czakk wrote:
It's an owlbear:

Where's the size comparison guy?
Those two look smallish, but can't be sure.

Nice cheap Griffen. I am going to need a couple of those.

 adhuin wrote:


Where's the size comparison guy?
Those two look smallish, but can't be sure.

here's a pic of that griffin on what i'm fairly certain is a 40mm base
the owl bear is a little smaller but still nicely fills a 40mm base

I agree with everything else you said, but I have to briefly point this out.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

Look at the dark Heaven Legends line. I can;t imagine how many figures that line has moved over it's lifespan, and all of those will be resold in Bones!

Reaper has never indicated that any (or even a majority) of their Dark Heaven Legends line would be resold in Bones. In fact, the high cost of Bones molds means that it is most likely that there will always be fare more metal figures available from reaper than Bones and that post-kickstarter new metal figures would still be released in greater numbers.

 adhuin wrote:
Where's the size comparison guy?
Those two look smallish, but can't be sure.

The metal owlbear and griffin both come with 40 mm plastic bases and fill them quite well (Bones don't normally come with bases though). The owlbear is probably 1 3/4" to the top of his head, but his crazy arm swing adds another bit on top of that.

The griffin is a little taller to the top of its head and the wings add another inch or so.


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Right now - the base Bones package includes over $900 worth of miniatures if you were to buy them in metal (not counting the 21 new figures in that section which would add another $100-200).

http://greg.botch.com/bones/

The options are probably good for another $1500-2000 in metal.

This kickstarter has been like christmas. Every night I go to sleep and wake up the next day to more models.

Yup

Watching them go (and commenting) is part of the fun of participating

I felt I had about $100 of value from the SW community alone (I did have to spend more than that though)

Ability to resist... shattering... help!

It is like the Zombie plague - only with miniatures.

Eventually - everyone will turn, and then they will go after the ones who haven't.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ability to resist... shattering... help!

That you should get away from modern telecommunication of any form for the next 56 hours.

They sure will want to turn up the hype up another notch for the last day or two and break that 2 million mark.

And keep in mind - your $100 is actually getting $125 worth of stuff because you get to use Sophie to get options. One of the best looking coupons I have seen in a long time.

That drops the cost per miniature down to stupid levels from ridiculously low levels already. Use it to add on 4 sets of IMEF or Nova marines if that is your thing or get a Dragon at no additional cost...or a couple of bone giants.

Crazy good deal.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ability to resist... shattering... help!

I have zero need for these things... but the deal is too amazing at this point, I'll find something to do with them. Just give in and then you don't have to fight it any more.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ability to resist... shattering... help!

You have to be strong. For me.

still crazy after all these pledges. betcha this breaks 2mil in the end.

I'm now at the point where I'm thinking up reasons to use these models:

Frost Wyrm? Random creature a Kill-Team can encounter in Deathwatch.

Hydra? Clearly another dangerous lizard living in the desert of the world my group is on in our Dark Heresy campaign.

Deep Dwellers? Lesser Warp Daemons that will attack the players as they transit from one planet to another.

Haunts/Fire It Up? Warp manifestations!

Beholder? Enslaver!

Skeletons? More fodder for Quest.

Vermin? Dark Heresy! Necromunda! Quest!

Zombiehunters? Zombicide!!!

Who's Your Mummy? More Quest!

I'm sure I'll think of more. Not getting Sophie nets me the Frost Wyrm and Hydra for +$0, and that's awesome!

 Necros wrote:
still crazy after all these pledges. betcha this breaks 2mil in the end.

I think that is pretty much a given unless they feth it up big time now.

This is most assuredly at the "unmissable" level now.

Yup.

Just checking the "1 million" post in this thread (which is probably not quite accurate in timing, but good enough), than they did 1 million on the 20th at about 3.30.

Now they are at 1.758.903, so they added over 3/4 of a million in the last roughly 83 hours (lets round it up to 85). That's about 8.928 US$ per hour.

They have another 54 hours to go. At a linear rate, that would add almost another half million (482.126,- US$) for a total of about 2.24 Million.

And I kinda doubt it stays linear...

Sucky thing though is $2,000,000 = give $200,000 to Kickstarter & Amazon, so it's more like $1,800,000.

But then, $1,800,000 isn't really all that sucky either...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm now at the point where I'm thinking up reasons to use these models:

Frost Wyrm? Random creature a Kill-Team can encounter in Deathwatch.

Hydra? Clearly another dangerous lizard living in the desert of the world my group is on in our Dark Heresy campaign.

Deep Dwellers? Lesser Warp Daemons that will attack the players as they transit from one planet to another.

Haunts/Fire It Up? Warp manifestations!

Beholder? Enslaver!

Skeletons? More fodder for Quest.

Vermin? Dark Heresy! Necromunda! Quest!

Zombiehunters? Zombicide!!!

Who's Your Mummy? More Quest!

I'm sure I'll think of more. Not getting Sophie nets me the Frost Wyrm and Hydra for +$0, and that's awesome!

Damn it man, stop giving me ideas!

I even thought of cool rules for the Frost Wyrm - it's a psychic creature that uses its powers to cloud and confuse people's minds. Fighting it is like fighting a ghost. You swing at it only to find that it's actually behind you, and has been the whole time.

Don't make me punch you damn it!

And there's a couple of very nice potential Rogue Traders in those Chrono-scope models.

And those big armoured guys with the huge guns might work in Sedition Wars.

Should I go on Brook?

Now the big guys with guns (and the wee lass with the big gun) I can do without, hate their look and style. Also, I already have miss Dubois as a metal for my RT games.

So I wasn't wrong about the Rogue Trader thing then! HA!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I even thought of cool rules for the Frost Wyrm - it's a psychic creature that uses its powers to cloud and confuse people's minds. Fighting it is like fighting a ghost. You swing at it only to find that it's actually behind you, and has been the whole time.

You can call him Aizen!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So I wasn't wrong about the Rogue Trader thing then! HA!

Son, I had her in my RT campaign before people even considered it.

Just 6k more until the griffon/owlbear!

I had no desire to pledge for this Kickstarter but I had to give it a look...and wow...You get way too much stuff for 100$
That's incredible...even if I don't have a use for these, I can't say no to this deal. And the figure case sounds great too =)

At last free shipping to Canada =D

I'm pretty disappointed with the owlbear. It just looks goofy. Besides, they should have gone with a centaur, for obvious reasons.

More Bonus Miniatures! Vampires, you'll get one of each of these, and Undertakers, you'll get two of each. This pack includes the Vampire Lord Judas Bloodspire, a vicious and terrifying Ghast, a Death Knight (which also serves as a skeletal warrior in armor, or any one of a number of undead combinations!) and a powerful Lich Lord!



Hold on to your hats, Boneheads, we're counting down by hours now and moving faster than ever!

Another 130k shouldn't be an issue! I expect it to be more than met by the time I get up tomorrow.

This is getting crazy.. They have already done 160k today. They may get the next goal if they keep up the trend there doing today.. Friday and Saturday is going to explode something fierce..

 ruff wrote:
This is getting crazy.. They have already done 160k today. They may get the next goal if they keep up the trend there doing today.. Friday and Saturday is going to explode something fierce..

Apparently it has been above $15K per hour for the past 4 hours and it is still in the "slow" part of the day. Still another 11 hours till the end of the KS/KT day - so, yep - I am thinking a new goal should be shown before Late Night with Jay Leno comes on.

Go free stuff!

(I may need more than one of the Ghasts, and it's so cheap I can just get the other 3 and not worry!)

Getting harder and harder to resist...

And that Owlbear looks weird to me.

Maybe it is just the pose?

It is 'supposed' to look like this:





I'm not sure exactly what it looks like when I look at the miniature!




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Now I see it!

It looks more like this:



And he's doing a rather odd left leg kicks out type of pose...

BobtheInquisitor wrote:I'm pretty disappointed with the owlbear. It just looks goofy. Besides, they should have gone with a centaur, for obvious reasons.

One of the guys in my gaming group has that model in metal. It's a bit better looking than the picture would suggest, but it definitley has a derranged look about it and is in a "swooping in for a kill" pose.



I'm really looking forward to the Owlbear and Griffon as "big" additions to my Animal Warband in Song of Blades and Heroes. Asside from rats, there haven't been any other animals in this kickstarter.

Over 181k for the day so far and we haven't even hit prime time on the east coast.

Already 31k over the last goalpost, 99k to go.

I really wanna jump in, but I just can't :( Well, if I did, I'd have to cancel my Dreamforge leviathan pledge and frankly it looks like Dreamforge could use my cash more at this point That and I'd rather have the leviathan anyway. But the amt of stuff you get for $100 here is just insanely awesome. I also know that I would pretty much never, ever have the time paint everything.

 Necros wrote:
I really wanna jump in, but I just can't :( Well, if I did, I'd have to cancel my Dreamforge leviathan pledge and frankly it looks like Dreamforge could use my cash more at this point That and I'd rather have the leviathan anyway. But the amt of stuff you get for $100 here is just insanely awesome. I also know that I would pretty much never, ever have the time paint everything.

Pledge 100$ now for Reaper and then you have 3 weeks to find an other 100$ for Dreamforge =)

Damn tempted. Going to the FLGS tomorrow, maybe I can split the cost with some interested buddies.

just under 20K in the last hour.. If this keeps up we will see the next goal today..

They're getting close to 10,000 backers. If they start tossing in some more sweet optional add-ons the pledge numbers are going to jump even higher in the remaining time. At the rate things are picking up I could see this breaking 3 million.

WOW we are only 16K away from beating our largest day.. Its only 4pm EST.. lol..

 BrookM wrote:
Damn tempted. Going to the FLGS tomorrow, maybe I can split the cost with some interested buddies.

This is the way to go. I'm splitting it with 3 other guys so for a $25 investment, we each get more than 50 figs!

Of course most of us have significantly raised that amount through add-ons...

Yeah, that happens. I am buying multiples of several things, just so I can paint and sell them. (Why don't people want to paint their mini's?) Anyhow, I am excited, and want to see where this ends up.

J

Dude I just signed up for the Vamp, and I'm going back in for $40 more for the $15 clockwork dragon and the $25 dracolich. My wallet hates me for buying so much on one paycheck. Two Hot Toys 1/6 scale figs, 6th ed Box set, and now this (I gotta tell someone who won't slap the gak outta me). My wallet.....it hates you all.

But this next month....I'm going to have so much fun!


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I wanna that KS go over 2 million!

As of 2:44pm PST the average pledge per person is $195.

 Aerethan wrote:
As of 2:44pm PST the average pledge per person is $195.

Yeah it dropped a little from 200 per person, due to new backers coming in just for the vampire level.. It should go back up when they offer more options..

You can bet they had no idea it would take off like this. It's starting to reach that critical mass point where it will grow faster due to the sheer number of people involved. Not quite exponential but close enough.

I know they said they had planned for 4 million, but I think that was more of an in house joke than a serious plan. Yet there is an outside chance it may even reach there lol

I think reaperbryan said they though 1.2 million or so was realistic, but had serious goals out to 4.15 mill just incase

DEAL! How about these two beautiful new Storm Giants drawn by Talin? Each Undertaker or Vampire Level backer will receive one of each of these two Storm Giants, and you can get extra copies for $10 a pair!

Hello mister vampire level..

That stretch is awesome. I'd love to have those two giants. I hope we make it!

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
That stretch is awesome. I'd love to have those two giants. I hope we make it!

with them being 18-30k a hour, it will be reached..

Edit: Should have been 18-30k

Walls of self control... breaking.

Well. Those are pretty fantastic.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Walls of self control... breaking.

Spend man!!! SPEND!!

Looks like their goals are being reached so fast, they dont have any more completed minis to offer and are drawing them up as they go.

Love the giants , really considering the dragons, I never use them but they just look really good

those storm giants are amazing. This kick starter might be the best 100 bucks I'll spend all year

Gamgan wrote:
Looks like their goals are being reached so fast, they dont have any more completed minis to offer and are drawing them up as they go.

Love the giants , really considering the dragons, I never use them but they just look really good

No - they have a crap load of stuff in the mix still coming.

However, they also have a crap load of customers who have bought a crap load of metal figures. The new stuff ends up giving those backers something they didn't have before.

Honestly I haven't bought a Reaper mini in several years. I've got a box of them, but new ones...nah. Haven't really D & D'd in a while. Nothing like 200 new minis to keep the yearly average in check.

I think I will name that giantess, Cheesecake, cuz even giantessi gotta show a little swerve. Nice weapons on both of them, Like the sword on the giant, whole mini actually.

...and they are free. What else could you ask for?

J

I held out until the last 48 hours, but my self control finally failed.

The Vampire level is an absolute ton of great models for the price. Models I don't particularly need, but... damn.

 AT wrote:
I held out until the last 48 hours, but my self control finally failed.

The Vampire level is an absolute ton of great models for the price. Models I don't particularly need, but... damn.

I suspect a lot of people will be in your boat...and thanks to all the people like you...the ton of models will continue to increase!

Well I was a backer for 2 days then I watched some video reviews of the bones range I hadn't realised how bendy and soft the plastic used is whilst it holds the detail great it's just not a material I'm interested in even at such a great bargain price so I'm out best of luck to Reaper hope they have a great surge right at the end and you all get many many more minis.

Gamgan wrote:
Looks like their goals are being reached so fast, they dont have any more completed minis to offer and are drawing them up as they go.

Love the giants , really considering the dragons, I never use them but they just look really good

With one of there lines having nearly 4000 sculpts.. I dont think they are running out of stuff to do, but want to expand on the line also..

Holy @#$%, that's a lot for $100

adding in the many options you can get for exchanging sophie and its a stupid amount of models

DaveC wrote:
Well I was a backer for 2 days then I watched some video reviews of the bones range I hadn't realised how bendy and soft the plastic used is whilst it holds the detail great it's just not a material I'm interested in even at such a great bargain price so I'm out best of luck to Reaper hope they have a great surge right at the end and you all get many many more minis.

Might I ask why? the two disadvantages of softer materials are that it holds less detail and holds paint less well. Bones has been amply proven to both hold paint very well and hold detail more than amply well, too. What precisely makes you still dislike them?

And if the Giants get funded then I crumble.....I wanted all the fire/ice/storm giant models and the fact that I can swap out sophie means I could get all of them and all the models for $105.....That's just to damn good to pass up. I'm sure I can find a use, even if just painting, for some of those models.

Giants should be funded in 3-4 hours tops.

Giants fall, and so do I.

Unless the next Stretch Goal sucks, that is.

We will welcome you both to the dark side with open arms

 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Giants should be funded in 3-4 hours tops.

If it keeps up like it is.. it will be in 2.5 hours..

Penny-Arcade just plugged Bones. I imagine that might have an effect.

At this rate we'll probably hit 3 more stretches before in the 40+ hours till the end.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Walls of self control... breaking.

I can help you with that problem...

Necromunda
12 giant rats
Bat swarm
Chronoscape
Zombie Hunters
Pirates (with conversion)
Lots of spiders

Necromunda & 40K
Townsfolk (with light conversion)
Burning stuff
5 universal zombies!
Squat chicks (with conversion)
IMEF Marines: Love that sniper rifle!
Nova
Townsfolk (with light conversion)

And endless supply of conversion bait...

Enjoy,

Tim