I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before
Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?
Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.
... what?
how does the phantom of the opera come into anything?
Because the phantom's mask only covers one side of his face and the thingy in the picture is also only on one side?
Because the picture is left justified and clipped on the right. Out of frame is not non-existent.
Olthannon wrote: The newest rumour engine must be cursed city or similar?
Given how a good amount of Rumour Engines for things get posted a year and then some in advance, and the Cursed City expansion was delayed by a lot and Cursed City dissapeared and came back, shouldn't we have most of the Rumour Engines for the expansions by now?
Not necessarily. It depends when GW knew the CCsnafu happened.
'Don't put these pics up, use these instead' is a very simple thing.
Now that they're sure they can get the stuff out, they can go back and put up the various images.
Presumably because the order isn't set in stone, so if they want to change it - for instance, if they're unclear that a product will be released, like CC expansions after the initial botch - then they can do.
Now it is confirmed that said expansions will be happening, they can put the teases back into the feed.
Either way whatever it is, looks rather huge, given how it's beard fits an entire little dude - perhaps an expension in the vein of the Dreaded Ambull? With a vampire giant rampaging through Ulfenkarn or something.
An undead giant would be so cool.
It looks kinda Soulblight to me (are the number of digits on the hand a clue? Are there any established races with Nightcrawler hands?)
Olthannon wrote: The newest rumour engine must be cursed city or similar?
Given how a good amount of Rumour Engines for things get posted a year and then some in advance, and the Cursed City expansion was delayed by a lot and Cursed City dissapeared and came back, shouldn't we have most of the Rumour Engines for the expansions by now?
Who says we don't? Some of the older rumours could still be related to Cursed City...
I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before
Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?
Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.
... what?
how does the phantom of the opera come into anything?
Because the phantom's mask only covers one side of his face and the thingy in the picture is also only on one side?
Because the picture is left justified and clipped on the right. Out of frame is not non-existent.
Your argument is flawed. You can continue the curvature of the arch both outside the picture (green) and inside it (red):
The red one has the benefit of aligning with the symmetry of the hair. The green one does not. Based on that I don't find it likely that it is clipped on the right any more than on the left.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Either way whatever it is, looks rather huge, given how it's beard fits an entire little dude - perhaps an expension in the vein of the Dreaded Ambull? With a vampire giant rampaging through Ulfenkarn or something.
Baby vampire might be similar in size to a Cherub if the skull is any indication. If so, yeah, we're looking at something exceeding ogre size and more in giant territory.
No idea if that's a reasonable model to use in Cursed City.
Olthannon wrote: The newest rumour engine must be cursed city or similar?
Given how a good amount of Rumour Engines for things get posted a year and then some in advance, and the Cursed City expansion was delayed by a lot and Cursed City dissapeared and came back, shouldn't we have most of the Rumour Engines for the expansions by now?
Who says we don't? Some of the older rumours could still be related to Cursed City...
Spoiler:
Speculating but possible contenders...
The vulture from there is from the Chaos Knight that was shown in part in the new year preview thingy.
I don't think I've been this stumped by the Rumour Engine before
Its a baby vampire in the curtains of a window or a door (you can see the arch along the side). What's to be stumped by?
Baby vampire, sure. But where you see curtains others see a beard. What you call an arch may just as easily be part of the phantom giant of the opera's mask.
... what?
how does the phantom of the opera come into anything?
Because the phantom's mask only covers one side of his face and the thingy in the picture is also only on one side?
Because the picture is left justified and clipped on the right. Out of frame is not non-existent.
Your argument is flawed. You can continue the curvature of the arch both outside the picture (green) and inside it (red):
The red one has the benefit of aligning with the symmetry of the hair. The green one does not. Based on that I don't find it likely that it is clipped on the right any more than on the left.
You think that skull... stops existing at the eye socket?
The photograph is really obviously clipped.
I don't necessarily think it is big, directly above the bab is that not a chin?
Looks to me like this is a papoose for the critter and its some sort of witch maybe? A staff in one hand and an outstretched hand casting a spell in the other?
Edit: although I do hope it's an undead giant because that would be awesome.
I mean, we have a skull for a size comparison. Assuming it is a beard, it's probably larger than an ogor. AOS has the opportunity to make so many new races, like ogroids, fimiroid, etc, so it could be something completely out of left field
Olthannon wrote: I don't necessarily think it is big, directly above the bab is that not a chin?
Looks to me like this is a papoose for the critter and its some sort of witch maybe? A staff in one hand and an outstretched hand casting a spell in the other?
Edit: although I do hope it's an undead giant because that would be awesome.
The bit to the left reminds me of a hockey stick as muchbas a frame, I can see it being a big crude weapon.
I agree that it looks like an explosive lance, but what are the odds of it being a necromunda ash wastes thing, and not some form of rough/death riders?
chaos0xomega wrote: Its either Rough or Death Riders - its a different design from what FW Death Riders had, which gives me hope for Rough Riders.
Actually, IIRC the Death Riders didn't have the explosive lances, but Rough Riders did?
The Death Riders, in the original IA: Vraks Volume One had CCWs+Laspistols, with the options to buy Hunting Lances--copypasted from the Rough Rider options.
Here's the image from the Ork codex that is why I keep mentioning Death Riders rather than Rough Riders.
No reason they couldn't give both rough riders and death riders though (presumably as separate kits). I mean, DKoK are already redundant with Cadians and Catachans, same unit just with different aesthetic, no reason that can't follow through to cavalry units too.
They're the same thing other than y'know, one being subfaction locked and the other being generic...
I've been saying this for awhile now but it bears repeating:
DKoK are supposed to be getting Death Riders and Grenadiers/Engineers as boxes that go with their "standard" infantry set.
Here's the image from the Ork codex that is why I keep mentioning Death Riders rather than Rough Riders.
No reason they couldn't give both rough riders and death riders though (presumably as separate kits). I mean, DKoK are already redundant with Cadians and Catachans, same unit just with different aesthetic, no reason that can't follow through to cavalry units too.
Skitarii got 2 different cav options in one 3 pack. They could do a 3 pack of cav with either DKoK or other guard riders.
Here's the image from the Ork codex that is why I keep mentioning Death Riders rather than Rough Riders.
They're basically the same thing. I don't care what the IG cavalry is called as long as it exists.
They're actually pretty different.
One had some manner of outflank, special weapons and flak armor. The other had to buy their lances, wore carapace armor and couldn't flank. It's pretty distinct, coming from a company who produced 4 Marines codex with units with the same gear and only one extra flavor rule.
Kanluwen wrote: Skitarii got two different head and arm options in one 3 pack.
Not the same thing.
The entire heads of the mounts were different as well.
Still falls under head options!
I couldn't find a way that didn't sound ridiculously wordy to say "two sets of two different head options and then two sets of arm options", if I'm gonna be honest.
And organic horses probably take up less spree space than the serberys do.
Unless they're going to shrink the horses to be smaller than the Serberys, I find it hard to think that.
So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Jack Flask wrote: So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Who? A google search turned up nothing for that name.
Jack Flask wrote: Probably because it'll be a new named HQ like SoB got with Morvenn Vahl.
Well, if there is not Official Guard talk, then we probably won't have to wait too long for a reveal. I'd guess we'll potentially see something about them at the May Warhammer Weekend, with the very slim chance we get a look come Adepticon.
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
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Jack Flask wrote: So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Whoa! Lord Solar Leontus?! In 40k seriously!? Better not be an early April Fools!
Spoiler:
I actually have no idea who that is. But IIRC Lord Solar is the highest IG rank and a High Lord of Terra.
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
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Jack Flask wrote: So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Whoa! Lord Solar Leontus?! In 40k seriously!? Better not be an early April Fools!
Spoiler:
I actually have no idea who that is. But IIRC Lord Solar is the highest IG rank and a High Lord of Terra.
I googled that Lord Solar thing because I was interested, no idea who that is?
And riding a Baneblade. Maybe 2 Baneblade with one foot on each like Jean Claude Van Dam in that commercial.
Anyway Lord Commander is basically the 40k version of 5 star general/admiral and Lord Commander Solar means LC of the Solar region. So if that comment means anything it would imply that the IG is getting a new supreme commander dude.
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
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Jack Flask wrote: So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Whoa! Lord Solar Leontus?! In 40k seriously!? Better not be an early April Fools!
Spoiler:
I actually have no idea who that is. But IIRC Lord Solar is the highest IG rank and a High Lord of Terra.
I googled that Lord Solar thing because I was interested, no idea who that is?
As the Kid said, “Lord Solar” is an officer rank, technically in both the Astra Militarum and the Astra Classis, that is bestowed solely by the High Lords of Terra (or Gulliman, these days). It has an alternative title that some of its recipients have preferred not to use for obvious reasons, that of “Warmaster”, and it represents the same level of autonomy to prosecute wars against the Imperium’s enemies. Which is why there can only ever be one active in the galaxy at once. Specifically they can command both the army and navy and (theoretically) marines to make war at their personal discretion. Not even the High Lords technically have that right; they must provide an objective and let the commanders in the region affected figure it out between themselves. Whereas, the Lord Solar/Warmaster can launch a full scale planetary invasion to rescue a cat from a tree if he wants. Which is why they are chosen very carefully and very rarely.
Anyway, the most famous Lord Solar of all time was, of course, St. Macharius, who conquered a thousand worlds in a hundred years and has his own mausoleum planet.
That said, and not to disparage Lord Guilleman’s choice of course, a Lord Solar willing to risk themselves in personal combat as this new one seems to be is a rare individual even by the standard of rarity of Lords Solar.
Lord Solar Leontus should be a Praetorian, I mean just look at the name - Leontus... Leon... Leo... Lion.... The Barbary Lion and Lion Passant are symbols of England, England is the inspiration behind...
PRAETORIA!
Incidentally, we have a tank named the Macharius in honor of Lord Solar Macharius. What are the chances that the new bigger Leman Russ is called the Leontus after Lord Solar Leontus (instead of the Rogal Dorn Battle Tank which - as much as I love Dorn - is just fething silly).
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
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Jack Flask wrote: So in the comments of the Reddit thread about this Rumor Engine someone asked if these are "horse or motorcycle rough riders" to which a known leaker responded:
Ok_Entrepreneur3004 wrote:Tho the real question you should be asking is what lord solar leontus is riding
Whoa! Lord Solar Leontus?! In 40k seriously!? Better not be an early April Fools!
Spoiler:
I actually have no idea who that is. But IIRC Lord Solar is the highest IG rank and a High Lord of Terra.
I googled that Lord Solar thing because I was interested, no idea who that is?
As the Kid said, “Lord Solar” is an officer rank, technically in both the Astra Militarum and the Astra Classis, that is bestowed solely by the High Lords of Terra (or Gulliman, these days). It has an alternative title that some of its recipients have preferred not to use for obvious reasons, that of “Warmaster”, and it represents the same level of autonomy to prosecute wars against the Imperium’s enemies. Which is why there can only ever be one active in the galaxy at once. Specifically they can command both the army and navy and (theoretically) marines to make war at their personal discretion. Not even the High Lords technically have that right; they must provide an objective and let the commanders in the region affected figure it out between themselves. Whereas, the Lord Solar/Warmaster can launch a full scale planetary invasion to rescue a cat from a tree if he wants. Which is why they are chosen very carefully and very rarely.
Anyway, the most famous Lord Solar of all time was, of course, St. Macharius, who conquered a thousand worlds in a hundred years and has his own mausoleum planet.
That said, and not to disparage Lord Guilleman’s choice of course, a Lord Solar willing to risk themselves in personal combat as this new one seems to be is a rare individual even by the standard of rarity of Lords Solar.
By the way, I'd just like to say that I know what the Lord Solar rank is, it's the name Leontus which I never heard of. And when googling came up with nowt.
chaos0xomega wrote: well don't get too excited, they are likely a fast attack choice, which means you legally top out at 3 squads in a 2000pt game :(
unless of course you're one of those 40k gigachads that has a local group that ignores matched play rules.
Haha!
We generally play with them, but we will do themed games from time to time.
Plastic rough riders is a first step. Second step would be rough rider platoons! Or at least different types of cav in fast, elite...and dare I dream...troop slots!!?!?
Interesting if true, hopefully they are well-revised and include good bits to make them fit with some of the varied aesthetics of other guard forces/would really suck if they were restricted to just Attilan guard regiments.
It doesn't sound like an anything name. Might just be a nom-de-guerre.
Interesting if true, hopefully they are well-revised and include good bits to make them fit with some of the varied aesthetics of other guard forces/would really suck if they were restricted to just Attilan guard regiments.
That's assuming they wouldn't potentially be Auxilia, intended to be a "regimentally neutral" option.
Could go either way, too. Adopted into Attilan culture while retaining his birth name is as easy as a native Attilan taking an Imperial name once he rises to prominence to better please his conservative lords.
chaos0xomega wrote: I dunno, Leontus still sounds like a Praetorian name to me...
I thought it was in reference to king Leonitus from the 300 . Their spears and shields, but I could be way off, it just doesn't seem "Current" enough of a ripoff that GW would capitalize on it. Though the Predator not catchans are dated as well.
Catachans came out in the '90s though and at that point, the '80s Action Hero (Rambo, Predator, Commando) isn't even a decade-old concept, and it's not like the idea ever went away since it's still prevalent in modern media. It's an iconic aesthetic that you can copy and sell with ease.
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
Going to be specifically Attilan Rough Riders apparently.
I don't get why that guy is being quoted? What has he said to give even a bit more credibility than just any random commenter there?
A brief look at his comment history suggests he's someone with advance access to new materials, though I've not been following new releases closely enough to know if what he has said actually came to pass
chaos0xomega wrote:But, Leontus doesn't sound like an Attilan name?
Spoiler:
Interesting if true, hopefully they are well-revised and include good bits to make them fit with some of the varied aesthetics of other guard forces/would really suck if they were restricted to just Attilan guard regiments.
I think his comment was specifically directed at the Rough Riders rumor engine pic (since people were asking what regiment the models would be based on), not anything to do with his earlier cheeky leak of Leontus.
Despite his leak being "what is Leontus riding on?" I personally [based on no inside knowledge] don't think a new Lord Solar would be a named Rough Rider. More likely if he is a LoW then he'll probably be in command variant "diorama style" tank like others have speculated.
Death Riders, please. They're like Rough Riders except 38% more grimdark. And they literally Ride Death so there's that.
Going to be specifically Attilan Rough Riders apparently.
I don't get why that guy is being quoted? What has he said to give even a bit more credibility than just any random commenter there?
I don't know, did you try looking at his comment history?
I've been posting about this guy here for like 3 months now. I found him around the time the detailed Eldar rumors started after someone offhandedly asked "who first mentioned the Ranger Jetbike".
Turns out it was this guy who's been posting leaks such as the exact contents of the Eldritch Omens and Eldar Combat Patrol boxes, Corsairs vs CSMKT box, Parasite of Mortrex, and a lot of codex rule details since around last Summer/Fall.
It could be a designer has ripped it off totally and is using it on another kit (rather than taking the 3D art asset out of the library and slightly tweeking it first as we've seen with a whole bunch of stuff recently, sometimes with mirroring being the only thing done)
H.B.M.C. wrote: I mean, it's not even that new. How did they mess that up?
It could be an upgrade sprue for the megas like the 40k Knights got. It's painted differently than the original one.
Who would make an Upgrade Sprue with a 1:1 copy of a bit from an existing kit?
I think the upgrade sprue will be all new but the model will contain some of the old parts. I would imagine an upgrade would include new heads and weapons but the body won't change much. They could have decided to use the old part on purpose as a deliberate tease of a new mega variant.
The only thing I can think of is that whatever it is providing the upper left corner "jag" bit over top of the shield is new (and not actually part of the Khinerai Shield like I'm thinking it is) and the person photographing the bits for Rumor Engine didn't know that the focus of the RE shot should be that.
Kanluwen wrote: The only thing I can think of is that whatever it is providing the upper left corner "jag" bit over top of the shield is new (and not actually part of the Khinerai Shield like I'm thinking it is) and the person photographing the bits for Rumor Engine didn't know that the focus of the RE shot should be that.
Nope, that Jag is already there in the existing kit.
Voss wrote: Ah, yes. The knee. It provides its own armor cap, so don't bother.
The buckles are so crappily painted that I can't tell if its from a shadow elf, a dark eldar or an ash waster.
If they are chaps to prevent contact with a bike engine, or fiction with a mount, I could see the lack of the knee. Might help bending? Looks silly, but that’s what we got.
Seems a little rough for elves. Guessing ash wastes.
I reckon that to be some sort of dark hearted elf. Reason why I do done reckon so, is that it's a dodgy pose, the knee is bent at a bit of a weird angle which suggests some funky elf pose, probably doing some sort of action leap.
Olthannon wrote: I reckon that to be some sort of dark hearted elf. Reason why I do done reckon so, is that it's a dodgy pose, the knee is bent at a bit of a weird angle which suggests some funky elf pose, probably doing some sort of action leap.
Leaping off a tactical rock, with only the tips of his toes on one foot touching it, eh? Sounds like classic GW elf stuff.
Could the reused pic be part of a new Giant....Minotaur? Possibly for beasts of Chaos. Get rid of the Cygor kit, or just add a sprue to the Mega Gargant to have Mega-taur or Cygortaur.
Theophony wrote: Could the reused pic be part of a new Giant....Minotaur? Possibly for beasts of Chaos. Get rid of the Cygor kit, or just add a sprue to the Mega Gargant to have Mega-taur or Cygortaur.
They removed the preview and replaced it with something else. Chances are that uploading that was an error, because that part is already out.
Theophony wrote: Could the reused pic be part of a new Giant....Minotaur? Possibly for beasts of Chaos. Get rid of the Cygor kit, or just add a sprue to the Mega Gargant to have Mega-taur or Cygortaur.
They removed the preview and replaced it with something else. Chances are that uploading that was an error, because that part is already out.
Yes, but then someone I saw saying that it is part of a new kit, so use the main part of the Mega Gargant but have a new separate sprue for the Minotaur head and cloven feet that fit the already released kit. Obviously the people taking pictures of the painted model aren’t gamers and didn’t know that part is from the sprue said used in another kit.
It would be like how the released the Chaos Rhino well after the rhino kit was out for imperial forces. They just swapped the Chaos accessory sprue for the imperial one. Then someone not knowing any better takes a picture of the tracks.
Theophony wrote: Could the reused pic be part of a new Giant....Minotaur? Possibly for beasts of Chaos. Get rid of the Cygor kit, or just add a sprue to the Mega Gargant to have Mega-taur or Cygortaur.
They removed the preview and replaced it with something else. Chances are that uploading that was an error, because that part is already out.
Yes, but then someone I saw saying that it is part of a new kit, so use the main part of the Mega Gargant but have a new separate sprue for the Minotaur head and cloven feet that fit the already released kit. Obviously the people taking pictures of the painted model aren’t gamers and didn’t know that part is from the sprue said used in another kit.
It would be like how the released the Chaos Rhino well after the rhino kit was out for imperial forces. They just swapped the Chaos accessory sprue for the imperial one. Then someone not knowing any better takes a picture of the tracks.
I think it could still be a new kit, but nothing Minotaur-y, it’ll be either a new mega-Gargant variant, or a special character one, like how the Imperial Knight kit was updated a couple of times with more weapons and a special character. The chances of it being to use as a model for a different faction is pretty slim, imo.
I think the mega gargant bit is from a new kit simply because the paint job is different. It's pretty rare for eavy metal to paint the same kit twice, especially something big like a mega gargant. I'm expecting something like Canis Rex but for Sons of Behemat.
Voss wrote: So. Preview happened, and there are A LOT of solutions for various rumor engine pics.
Spoiler:
2021-02-16- Knight Abominant bird
2021-08--31 Knight Abominant leg??
2022-01-04: crossed metal tentacles: new Chaos Knight Abominant.
2021-03-23 end of knight tentacles?
2021-09-28- prow of Awlrach's boat
2021-10-12 Nighthaunt boatsman Awlrach the Drowner, top of pole on his boat
2021-11-02 Ash Wastes bug leg
2022-01-18: tire from Ash Wastes Orlock buggy (not completely sure)
2022-01-25 :Antenna array is in the ash wastes terrain (top of a hut/stand alone platform- its in two pics)
2022-02-22 wings, chaos marine teaser video (haven't seen whole model yet)
2020-03-17- chaos staff/icon topper marine teaser video (no whole model)
There may be more, but that's what I could find.
The gear pile 2022-02-08 is also from the Ash Wastes terrain. Interestingly the weird industrial boots/cyborg leg weren't solved, so still some hope these are squats ...
With how long some of the rumor engines take to make it to release, I'm not surprised. I wonder if they had some proof readers go through the new books in that time...
The accidental upload will have just been because they have a pool of photos and when they come up and that one accidentally got in there or something.
Facebook easily explained by them thinking well if it’s posted it must be new so doubled down on it being correct and such..
Well, this does not match the aesthetic of the now-previewed Ash Wastes nomads (who have chain-lances), so with the main competition eliminated I think we can be pretty confident of a Rough Rider variant of some kind.
Personally, I hope it is not Death Riders, and includes options to equip the riders with hunting lances, lasguns, shotguns, or laspistol + CCW as used to be an option in the Rough Rider rules. Having the generic option to build various different styles of cavalry would be great for modelling opportunities. I'd like some lasgun-equipped dragoons meself.
lord_blackfang wrote: Maybe there's nothing else in the pipeline, we've seen it all.
Finally, my wallet can relax.
Lucky. Mine is feeling hyperactive at the moment. There's a lot of cool stuff this year- I thought I was safe after the EO & KT chaos marines and eldar (wasn't overly impressed with any), but wow, no.
Haighus wrote: Personally, I hope it is not Death Riders, and includes options to equip the riders with hunting lances, lasguns, shotguns, or laspistol + CCW as used to be an option in the Rough Rider rules. Having the generic option to build various different styles of cavalry would be great for modelling opportunities. I'd like some lasgun-equipped dragoons meself.
It's possible that the name "Rough Riders" will be replaced with "Death Riders" for search optimization/copyright reasons, but who knows.
So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
lord_blackfang wrote: So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
lord_blackfang wrote: So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
Psyber Vultures connected via a Neu Sphere link to the pilot who act as spotters and drones.
lord_blackfang wrote: So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
Psyber Vultures connected via a Neu Sphere link to the pilot who act as spotters and drones.
Since apparently the vultures are a range weapon, this might not be too far from the truth
lord_blackfang wrote: So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
Psyber Vultures connected via a Neu Sphere link to the pilot who act as spotters and drones.
Since apparently the vultures are a range weapon, this might not be too far from the truth
Wait. Those things have rules? They're not just flair?
It looks like it's sitting on a skull. A vaguely equine skull to be precise. I'd guess some sort of Ghoul baby. Something Death related at the very least.
lord_blackfang wrote: So are that random birds just aggregating on a large moving structure because it inexplicably has tree branches growing out of its metal hull, or is the Knight intentionally growing tree branches to accomodate its birds?
Psyber Vultures connected via a Neu Sphere link to the pilot who act as spotters and drones.
Since apparently the vultures are a range weapon, this might not be too far from the truth
Wait. Those things have rules? They're not just flair?
Yeah the warcom article specifically mentions them. Interestingly, the war hounds have at least one, but that’s probably just ornamentation
Wait. Those things have rules? They're not just flair?
From the sounds of things, yes.
They also pack a volkite combuster, using technology from the dark days of the Horus Heresy to atomise elite infantry and light vehicles alike under a beam of deflagrating death. Coupled with its thrashing electroscourge arm and nesting flocks of sinister Pterrorshades, the Abominant is a sight plucked from your nightmares.
Snrub wrote: It looks like it's sitting on a skull. A vaguely equine skull to be precise. I'd guess some sort of Ghoul baby. Something Death related at the very least.
Just what the world needs, creepy dead cannibal babies that think they're knights.
I’m hoping creepy baby is Soulblight, but Ghouls make sense. I would love for GW to expand the ghoul ‘family’, with children, more female ghouls etc… but I’m not sure how far they would be willing to go….
Wrong number of digits for either ghouls or skaven. I think this may be something entirely new. Maybe it's the destruction type beastmen people keep asking for. Not actual beastmen mind but in the vein of Kragnos.
Apparently it's gonna be a thing now that titan sized models are infested with tiny creatures. Creepy baby tangled in beard and creepy baby sitting on a skull probably go on a new Destruction/Beastman titan.
Yea, I think they're dressing for a larger critter. With ash waste coming I can't help but wonder if these little dudes will be for some big scavvie or something.
Well, GW is entirely capable of producing a Shaggoth with full sized beastmen riding him now, and yet they are still tiny baby imps, so balls to that theory.
lord_blackfang wrote: Well, GW is entirely capable of producing a Shaggoth with full sized beastmen riding him now, and yet they are still tiny baby imps, so balls to that theory.
For what it's worth, in the Painting Masterclass: Shaggoth in AU WD #285, they are referred to as "imps" on page 53:
"Terracotta was used as a basecoat for the imps in his hair, with Vomit Brown added for each successive highlight stage."
lord_blackfang wrote: Sooo, "evil" elf, probably winged since their feet are barely touching the ground?
"Evil" Elf doesn't really narrow it down...
Out of the box thinking could also lead to another Vampire, something Slaaneshi, or possibly Cities of Sigmar or Stormcast. I do think it is Age of Silliness-related, rather than 30k or 40k, though.
Hmm, the lower part of the pole to the right has a checkers pattern, so this is not only ahem very low tech but also somehow scavenged? Something Sons of Behemat? Doesn't look huge, though, so yeah maybe gobbos ...
EDIT: you know, reading this week's and last weeks they both make mention of showing the past and not the future. I wonder if this is actually finally a sneaky bit of Old World.
EDIT: you know, reading this week's and last weeks they both make mention of showing the past and not the future. I wonder if this is actually finally a sneaky bit of Old World.
Olthannon wrote: I wonder if this is actually finally a sneaky bit of Old World.
When we finally get a first sneak peak of anything Old World related, it will not be a secret or sneaky. Warhammer Community team can't resist spilling the beans.
Here's a guess: howdah mounted on a new dragon ogre/monstrous beast - a couple of those little gremlin creatures from previous rumor mill pictures will ride its body/hair like in the rumor mill and a little crew will be in the howdah to blow the horn and toss little pebbles at enemies
KipCujo wrote: Here's a guess: howdah mounted on a new dragon ogre/monstrous beast - a couple of those little gremlin creatures from previous rumor mill pictures will ride its body/hair like in the rumor mill and a little crew will be in the howdah to blow the horn and toss little pebbles at enemies
I think they're mostly accurate? There are some outliers but I'm not aware of many pictures that go unsolved for so long. At this time it's a bit of an odd reminder of how the rumor engine is supposed to work, though, considering GW suffers proven delays that push releases back. I'd have thought now was the time for a more cautious Soon™, to be honest.
As for the picture, I really hope some new Beastmen come of all this. The army's been neglected for so long. But who knows.
Taking bets that's going to be a Warcry reveal at 'fest. Although in terms of Beastmen, isn't there still a couple of pics that haven't been solved that link back to a new Jabberslythe?
And they have different roles in both armies - Kruelboyz treat them as war animals and mounts, while the Gobbo ones are closer to big tanky dudes, you can even use them as
Battleline with a troll leader.
Seraphon, no doubt, the dangly bits are the same as on plenty of their weapons. One can only hope it's a substantial range update, and not a one-off model.
Yep Seraphon. Warcry war band would be good- I really hope they use war cry for there factions other than chaos- Kurnothi would be a good one as well for realm of Beasts.
It would be nice (in my opinion) if Warcry started going down the road that Kill Team did and start including fully customizable new unit kits with a Warcry-specific set of bits.
Ignispacium wrote: It would be nice (in my opinion) if Warcry started going down the road that Kill Team did and start including fully customizable new unit kits with a Warcry-specific set of bits.
Ignispacium wrote: It would be nice (in my opinion) if Warcry started going down the road that Kill Team did and start including fully customizable new unit kits with a Warcry-specific set of bits.
There is not really any kind of "specialist" unit in WarCry, sadly.
But I do hope like hell that they use WarCry ala KT to tie in an introduction to the new focused realm and do updated/new sculpts outside of a book's release cycle.
Wha-Mu-077 wrote: Seraphon, no doubt, the dangly bits are the same as on plenty of their weapons. One can only hope it's a substantial range update, and not a one-off model.
It's something I like, so the safe bet is a one off model. :(
Have there been any chariots since AoS launched? I know chaos still has a few legacy chariots, but I can't think of any new ones. (Despite thinking the horn is from a redesigned BoC chariot).
It’s almost definitely Seraphon. It fits right in with the weapons of their newer models, a lot of their weapons already have the same dangly things, and I don’t think it looks like anything we’ve seen on the leagues of Votann so far. I don’t think we’ve seen any melee weapons for them yet, but it looks like a completely different design language.
If its just a cavalry spear, the construction is really awkvard and unneccecary complicated.
Its bonereaper level of silly concept design.
Why would someone make a stone replica of an auspex scanner and use it as one of 3 heavy components at the pointy end of a lance?
My guess, its a laser spear, and the first components is there to generate power, and the spear point focus it to a beam like an eldar fire prism. Would totaly be in line wih the seraphon.
Ad mech is the obvious choice, but could be squat too. Don’t know why they’d make a new archaeologist model when there is one there ready to be released.
Andykp wrote: Ad mech is the obvious choice, but could be squat too. Don’t know why they’d make a new archaeologist model when there is one there ready to be released.
They can't release Daedalosius without releasing a whole frame of adventurers.
Also as a fun little note, the Technoarchaeologist fluff blurb in the codex has them fighting what might be League of Votann!
I have spent the last two cycles in auto-static meditation. I have analyzed the topographical echo-graphs. I have communed with Proctor Dominus Thargosen upon the magnetospheric anomalies. I have determined their connection to earthwork traces estimated within tolerances at M27 in age. There is first the matter of the native lifeforms and their repellent insistence that we cannot delve here. My analyses reveal their power generation sites, their subterranean transit-corridors and their mountain retreats that they no doubt consider their secret means of final defence. This holy data-inload I commit to the fleet's authority with but a single request: I want these vermin purged. This world's secrets are ours to discover.
Andykp wrote: Ad mech is the obvious choice, but could be squat too. Don’t know why they’d make a new archaeologist model when there is one there ready to be released.
They can't release Daedalosius without releasing a whole frame of adventurers.
Never owned that set, just assumed they were all separate sprues. Fair enough, might be then.
Could be, I suppose. But given the 'hand holding the manipulator to hold the hose' level of redundancy involved, I suspect Ad Mech.
Squats seem a bit too techy, practical and competent for that.
If you watch the initial video for the Leagues of Votann, you can make out a silhouette of one of their servo-harnesses. The "claw" is more like a face almost.
Someone over on The Grand Alliance site posted this comparison:
Spoiler:
There also apparently is,in the lore, a Logisticator for the Kharadron Overlords. They keep track of the shares a crew have earned and enforce the Codes.
. Their spears and shields, but I could be way off, it just doesn't seem "Current" enough of a ripoff that 
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