GrimDork wrote:
Oh by all means take your time! I was just curious and I've still got at least a week to figure it out for myself

Hrmm crumpets... Sounds tasty. Prefer coffee in the morning though!

Mid afternoon tea , Hope this helps.

Notifications are going out to Canada too.
10.5 kilos.
What on earth did I order that weighs 10.5 kilos?
Lol

A weighty first poet indeed!

 Alpharius wrote:
A weighty first poet indeed!

He's a poet and he just didn't know it!

@Chriswaller a small dog?

Ahh thanks for that edlowe That gun is *huge*, and the accessory sprue bits look to be waist high then or so. Cool beans


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Oh man, pun hell for you Alpharius, pun hell indeed.

FYI, connector pieces are kinda sucky, it's easier to glue the stuff together (clipping off the square pegs on the connector sprue and just gluing them straight on).

Corner connectors are a problem and need to be filed down, but not filed down too much or they'll fall out.

The terrain is still awesome, but don't get your hopes up about being about to take this stuff apart and put it back together.

It just plain does not clip together in the same "easy snap" way as the platformer/ hexagon sets (then again I could never take tht stuff apart either). On the plus side the clips are hardly visible and the terrain looks great (its huge!).

Curses! Double posted, doubled post got deleted, deleting the main post and leaving my "oops double post" post =/

Gist of it... I plan to be optimistic till I've got it all in hand and have had a few days to work on it all.

Having said that, I think this will sort out to be something like the various prefab infinity terrain. Several modules (built from tiles and glued together) that you can stack on top of eachother and re-arrange between games, like 1-2-3 story modular buildings and movable ramps etc.

I'm sure my 2x2x2' "doomcube" was always gonna need some gluing to be stable.

Thanks for keeping us updated

 GrimDork wrote:
Avast! Double post! And I didn't even accidentally double click it either =/

Erm... How's the weather then?

lol, rainy as usual!

After a bit more playing around with the connectors il definitely be glueing together my buildings. Its a rather cool assembly teqnique but I wouldn't want to have to rebuild my buildings for each battle. Id just buy more buildings!

heres a quick test paint, just black, grey and white spray using the salt technique. Then a wash, very easy to do, but not sure now if its the way il go.

Oooh thats not bad for the amount of effort you suggest. I know I've looked up the salt technique before but it's been a good long while. You just spray/glue some salt inbetween coats of paint and scrape it away at the right time?

I was gonna go with clean buildings but seeing all of these nice weathered BZ tiles is starting to change my mind.

Grimdork,

just spray black, while its still wet sprinkle on salt, I use our kitchen salt shaker, then spray grey and repeat the salt, followed by white spray. Once dry wash of the salt by running it under a tap. Really quick and eady to be honest. The metals just boltgun plus army painter strong tone wash.

im thinking id like each building a different shade tho to add some depth to the battlefield.

wonder if its worth starting a dz scenery thread somewhere for what people are coming up with?

Yes, yes it is. Surprised there isn't one over at the mantic forums too already.

My thing with the clips, is like SS said, to file them slightly - about three passes with a file on two sides. They should fit snugly and come apart with a good pull, although i'd still press from the other side.

Also, this might be useful - breakdown of the gun emplacement.
http://whiteswolves.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/happiness-is-big-gun.html

The hexagon sets are certainly possible to disassemble and re-use in different configurations, just a bit of a pain, and you do need to take some care while doing it so connectors aren't ruined. If the Mantic sets are no worse, I definitely can live with that. If they are worse, there's no sugar-coating it, that's a disappointment. In that event I'll probably end up gluing some permanent structures together, as Grimdork and SS suggested, and will still get good use out of them. But I'll want to plan things out very carefully in that event before I just plunge in and start building, and some of my more elaborate ideas - like a Space dungeon - may never happen. I'll definitely try filing the connectors first, as being able to reconfigure the set is a big deal to me.

 scarletsquig wrote:

The terrain is still awesome, but don't get your hopes up about being about to take this stuff apart and put it back together.

It just plain does not clip together in the same "easy snap" way as the platformer/ hexagon sets (then again I could never take tht stuff apart either). On the plus side the clips are hardly visible and the terrain looks great (its huge!).

I'm going to have to agree with this myself. I do, however, don't think gluing is strictly needed.

However, the terrain is definitely not 'go to a game 5 minutes early and push a bunch of scenery together' as hoped. I've been putting a building together today and it's probably taken about 4 hours so far, with my fingertips rather raw and 1 broken connector (and 2 others pinged off into the ether.) - I'll get some pics up soon, once I finish it off.

The terrain is most certainly a better alternative to the Cities of Death kits, however I don't think this generation of kits is going to quite change the gaming world as Ronnie has hoped.

Hrmmm. Yeah, even being able to put it together, and take it apart months in the future when you get another "the best idea evar!" would be sufficient to make me happy

^ My experience is pretty much the same, spent about 3 hours so far manged to break one connector and lose one. And I'm usually such a dainty fether.

Trying to find a connector that snaps neatly into both parts of 2 tiles is tricky, not too bad for the straights, but a nightmare for corners.

I've given up on the connectors and have started gluing it together instead. Enjoying it a *lot* more, the fit is so much better rather than having the gaps that the connectors leave, and no rage at things not fiitting or having to file down the fiddly connectors so they'll fit but then accidentally filing too much so they fall out.

You probably could get it all together without gluing but it takes longer to put it together with connectors so the advice I'd have to give anyone that intends on gluing it is simply "cut off the square pegs when you're clipping the connectors off the sprue and glue it right from the start, don't even go there with the connectors unless its the flat ones".

Hrmm interesting. This is going to lead me to a long course of deliberation and "figuring" as I determine the best size to set for my modular pieces... Hrmmm.

I've got to be honest - I was going to glue this stuff together anyway...

Heres the bigger landing pad as promised.

So for ive lost or broke a few connectors, I really think il need more sprues of them.

I dont think you'd want to go much bigger than this for a landing pad, this one takes up a quater of the dz board. Id definitely go higher tho at least five levels.

That... Is pretty awesome

So... Has anyone done the math to see if the landing pad and defense line can serve proper as not-aegis defense lines and not- skyshield landing pads for 40k? Not that I still plan to play that game... but curiosity y'know.

The only genuine disappointment in the kits I'm finding is the landing pad sprues. Part of the reason it was taking me so long was that I was trying pretty funky stuff with them (well, funky in my mind) and there just wasn't the right pieces to do what I was wanting to do with them.

For example, I was originally trying to make something that was a bit like this:

| | \_/

With a walkway around the outside (I was calling it a docking bay, actually). However, there were no real triangle bits to make me do that and the angled surface connectors don't seem to be at an angle I'd hope.

 Alpharius wrote:
I've got to be honest - I was going to glue this stuff together anyway...

Same here! My limited hobby time means this goes together once and once only

Yeah, I'm in the boat of figuring out what I wanted and gluing it together. I might not glue levels togeth and just clamp them on but the majority of stuff is getting glued. $25-$50 to just build a new building instead of the frustration of taking one apart and reassembling it just seems better to me. Plus I don't wanna mess up my paint jobs when I start them.

Loving the pics you guys are putting up of the scenery, tiding me over till mine turns up.

Can see me going in big on the second survey......

 Compel wrote:
The only genuine disappointment in the kits I'm finding is the landing pad sprues. Part of the reason it was taking me so long was that I was trying pretty funky stuff with them (well, funky in my mind) and there just wasn't the right pieces to do what I was wanting to do with them.

For example, I was originally trying to make something that was a bit like this:

| | \_/

With a walkway around the outside (I was calling it a docking bay, actually). However, there were no real triangle bits to make me do that and the angled surface connectors don't seem to be at an angle I'd hope.

mmm give me a few minutes, I think I know what you mean

Just got my shipment notification, 18 lbs. MY GOD

Comple did you want this kind of shape? Or vertical?

I wanted something FAR more insane than that, sadly.

But first... Here is my completed first terrain piece! First off, it is surprisingly sturdy. - I did manage to carry it across my flat quite happily without any pieces falling off!

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you... Fortress Compellicus!










However, as I was saying, the original thing I was trying was for it to be more of a docking bay. (Roughly Inspired by Docking bay 94 in Star Wars). So it was more going to be a hexagon-ish shape as opposed to squared with walkways going all the way around the outside with a less fortified front section and a control tower at the back. But instead I've now got a fort. At least forts are cool.

Dammit. Every time I see a photo of some awesome new structure posted up I go refresh the UPS tracking page, dunno what I'm expecting to happen on a Sunday!

Nice work Compel, I keep taking mine apart and starting again! Ispose il have to settle on a design eventually.

If it isn't too much trouble, when people post up their cool creations, would it be possible to list how many Battlezones were used to make it? (This one took 2x Core Universe and 1x landing pad, etc.). Would just help to give the rest of us an idea of what structures you can get out of the sets.

And if you can't be bothered, at least have the courtesy to say "get stuffed, Vermonter. Count the tiles yourself."

I can't really tell you that, Vermonter.

I've just taken a load of random bits that I've cut out and stuck them all together.

I will say, that's a fraction of the amount of stuff I've got. - However, it does seem I've used up a lot of walkways and railings.

Yeah I just grabbed 2 landing zones, 2 core worlds and 2 fortifications sprues, still got a big box of core ive not touched!

Next one I build I'll try and keep count.

Is there anything people would like to see?

I am hoping for a library of cool builds to be built up, so I can shamelessly copy them

Yeah, someone had mentioned making an ongoing here's what we've put together /painted for the scenery style thread. Probably at home in the mantic forum since it's not really one person's blog or a single project, but who knows. I don't reckon such a thread exists yet, and I'm loathe to start one w/o having scenery of my own yet

 GrimDork wrote:
Yeah, someone had mentioned making an ongoing here's what we've put together /painted for the scenery style thread. Probably at home in the mantic forum since it's not really one person's blog or a single project, but who knows. I don't reckon such a thread exists yet, and I'm loathe to start one w/o having scenery of my own yet

*Whistles innocently.*

http://forum.manticblog.com/showthread.php?6165-Deadzone-Scenery

 Alpharius wrote:
I've got to be honest - I was going to glue this stuff together anyway...

Likewise.

Does anyone know if the scenery come with 'instructions' and/or examples and how to build them?

Just got my shipping notice, should be arriving Tuesday. 11kg (or 24 lbs.) of gaming goodness. I'm starting to ask for shelving units for Christmas in anticipation.

No instructions, although there might be in the scenery set. I don't think there's any specific builds Mantic have in mind, it's just a lego set for nerds really.

I'm done with poly cement fumes for the day and have started taking the flash off some Rebs, love the new restic formula they've used, it is sooo much easier to file than the old stuff, doesn't do that spongy resistance then go all stringy crap, it files off pretty much like hard plastic does.

Excellent, thanks Compel. I'd like to start one but again, no terrain of my own yet

@Ronin_eX I just got a 39 drawer mini organizer thing to sort my bits into. I'm afraid I may come up short for space though!

@Alpharius, I don't think there are any instructions. Actually... do any mantic kits have instructions? I know some of the KoW stuff has a little helpful booklet, but I haven't seen anything in my warpath stuff yet.

I've just put together one marauder myself, the running one.

Was pleasantly surprised by the new formula restic, cuts so much easier than the old stuff.

The marauders are fantastic sculpts, I can't really believe how much better they look in person. Im looking forward to the ripper suits in particular which seem to have no mold lines at all. The only disappointment were the broken goblin snipers but I hope Mantic will replace them.

hmm think I'll spend the next few hours playing around with some more scenery ideas.

To be honest, Mantic are quick lacking on the instructions front. - Even the new Deadzone enforcers, althugh admittedly MUCH easier than the normal ones do very much have a case for me going, "what the frik is this?"

- 'This' turned out to be the body of the new Engineer dude.

This thread needs more pics!

 Alpharius wrote:
This thread needs more pics!

what would you like pics of? I'll dive in my boxes and photo it

I'm sorting, gluing and trimming as fast as I can!

I'll take any pics of Deadzone stuff - but I'm especially interested in:

1) Terrain pics - especially assembled stuff!

2) Miniature pictures - hopefully showing that the mold lines aren't as bad as I've seen in some shots.

Enforcers straight out of there baggy.

Very slight mold lines, slightly warped base on the combat enforcer.

The chinese snap points seem to be on the connecting points which will be hidden once they are assembled which seems true for all the new figs.

The old enforcer weak ankle problems gone, the new legs looking much superior.

There should be no problem removing the mold lines with the new material which is much more like hard plastic to cut and file.

I had some difficulty with the mold lines on my Engineer. The sniper was fairly good and the Rocket launcher guy seems pretty much perfect.

A closer look does show the engineer to be the most tricky of the set. The enforcer captain you can almost push together. The one thing people may not like is that the cape is not completely separate from the body, theres a tiny bit sculpted on the front and back.

I'll see what I can build with just 2 core world sprues next.

Just got my shipping notice from Fedex. I'm excited to get the game but I'm more then a little disappointed that the terrain is not easily assembled and disassembled. I intended to use Deadzone terrain on an as needed basis until I could commit them to a much larger forge world realm of battle project. Guess I'll have to keep them in the box until ready. Oh well!

Honestly, nobody with any experience with modular terrain expected to assemble and disassemble Deadzone every game. Even the very simple Necromunda stuff takes a while to set up.

Also, the Enforcer Sentry guns are surprisingly cute...

I'm going to name mine Dummy and Bob.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Honestly, nobody with any experience with modular terrain expected to assemble and disassemble Deadzone every game. Even the very simple Necromunda stuff takes a while to set up.

I had to work with Necromunda terrain in my old game store. It might have been tough cardboard, but it was still pretty easily damaged. The plastic stuff was great, but could break easily. I look forward to seeing the Deadzone stuff, and I'm going to be putting a bunch more terrain on my second survey. More marauders too, I think. And another pack of Rebs, since I think I need two...one for me, one for a friend.

Yup, Zero experience with modular terrain so maybe I was a little unrealistic in my hopes and expectations. Does not take away from Deadzone though I was just hoping to use the terrain from Deadzone for a bad ass Tomorrow's War table as well. Just a bit of a let down.

Or the excuse I need to buy those Forgeworld Realm of Battle Boards lol!

I still think the terrain is fine to switch about every few months or so.

It might be worth having good 'sub assemblies' in mind though, so you're not redoing every single piece.

Other stuff I remember from the seminar:

- Warpath, lots of stuff about Warpath.

Mantic is pretty much done with having any interest in riding on GW's coat-tails as far as Warpath goes. Nowhere near as much 40k/ GW fanservice stuff in future.

It is more interested in going for GW's throat via straight-up competition. Ronnie wants to rely on Mantic's own background, its own IP, own terrain, own mats, own rules, own everything, done on its terms without taking into account GW and only providing 40k compatibility in some models as an afterthought. General idea is that eventually even people who are right now saying "Oh, Mantic sucks, I only play GW, nothing else" will be won over by sheer quantities of hard plastic (fom the sounds of it they're looking to gear up for 4 hard plastic kits/month once they're done validating the new production method), sold at even more aggressive pricing than what they have currently. The plan is to out-compete GW directly, on all fronts, with superior rules systems, and minis of equal quality sold at around a quarter of the price.

They really don't want you to be playing 40k or making it cheaper for you to play 40k, they straight-up want you giving their own games a try.

This will filter down to the rules too. Warpath will focus on 100 models + vehicles for a typical 6x4 game, compared to 40k's 40 models + vehicles.

But the idea is, you'll be able to play that 100 minis game faster, easier and have more fun with it than the 40 minis 40k game. That is the goal, larger armies but faster gameplay, with lots of unit variety and like KoW, victories as a result of beating your opponent, not writing a better army list or metagaming.

Warpath 3.0 beta with go up when the kickstarter launches to be picked apart and playtested by backers (by this point a lot of people will have an army's worth of Warpath just in DZ models anyway).

Awesome news!


Incidentally, I just found a problem. The rocket launcher guys integrated base is far too big to fit inside one of the main bases. - I'm thinking I need to turn the base upside down and just cut the integrated one off.

Good to hear SS. The gw boat is unappealing so I've signed on to the mantic ship sink or swim. If they beat out 40k with warpath then I'll have more people to play it with. If they don't, well I'm no worse off then I am now it really want ting to play 40k as it is.

A lot of big promises there, we'll see how it pans out. Currently Warpath is a bit creatively bankrupt from my point of view, with the Veer'myn being a particularly crappy concept.

I'm hoping for something creative that gets my attention from them in the near future, but if they want to compete with the likes of GW's tyranids they'd better be ready to make some stonking plastics.

Edit: One thing I will say is that I am more likely to want to play Warpath or KoW than 40K or Fantasy because I really hate the pointlessly layered complexity and legacy issues of both of those systems at this stage. 6th edition was a huge turn off with all those ridiculous fiddly rules. I want something I can explain to a newbie in 10 minutes and have them feel like they grasp the game.

 scarletsquig wrote:

The plan is to out-compete GW directly, on all fronts, with superior rules systems, and minis of equal quality sold at around a quarter of the price.

If I ever sounded bitter about Mantic, it was because this is what I originally expected from them when they launched and they just keep falling short again and again.

 Da Boss wrote:
...Warpath is a bit creatively bankrupt...

 Da Boss wrote:
...compete with the likes of GW's tyranids...

Does. Not. Compute...

I hope that they start world-building soon. Background and details is the biggest thing they are missing for Warpath in my opinion.

~Eric

ok that Warpath news has made my day! I can't wait, I've been looking for an alternative to 40K since 6th dropped.

 Taarnak wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
...Warpath is a bit creatively bankrupt...

 Da Boss wrote:
...compete with the likes of GW's tyranids...

Does. Not. Compute...

I hope that they start world-building soon. Background and details is the biggest thing they are missing for Warpath in my opinion.

~Eric

Hah, well caught. I meant in terms of sculpt quality, because nothing I've seen from them is as good as the big tyranid kits GW are releasing, and that's what I really want to see with the Zz'orr or whatever they are- big scary non humanoid aliens of some description!

The space rats are just a massive disappointment, especially with the way Mantic hyped them up to be something huge and then it turns out they're just mutated vermin on ships. That was really lame.

Loving the sound of the future of Mantic, if they can get their plastics under control I can really see them as a true alternative to gw. It was cool to talk to the mantic guys at the openday and see how passionate they were about there games and the improvements they were making.

Forgot to mention earlier I pestered mantic about putting up the enforcer sprue as an addon for wave2 mentioning if the price was good id buy a shed load, the response was 'Im sure a lot of people would, you'll have to see' if they did a deal like the zombies or heavy enforcers I can see it going a bit mental.

Anyway back to scenery, this buildings made from 2 half sprues from the core wolds set plus an assesory sprue. Theoretically I could build 10+ of these with strikeforce pledge I think(?). Not too bad a way to fill out a board.

Pictures as promised more to come:

Just note: We did some little pose changes to some of the miniatures. We also used Micro Art Studio bases & forge craft games bases. We did a bit of cut work as the miniatures have a mini base attached to them that gets insert into the main Deadzone bases. We had a bit of fun. Awesome Miniatures.









Will add more to our miniatures hobby album https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.650888208267045.1073741860.475726182449916&type=1

 scarletsquig wrote:
It is more interested in going for GW's throat via straight-up competition. Ronnie wants to rely on Mantic's own background, its own IP, own terrain, own mats, own rules, own everything, done on its terms without taking into account GW and only providing 40k compatibility in some models as an afterthought. General idea is that eventually even people who are right now saying "Oh, Mantic sucks, I only play GW, nothing else" will be won over by sheer quantities of hard plastic (fom the sounds of it they're looking to gear up for 4 hard plastic kits/month once they're done validating the new production method), sold at even more aggressive pricing than what they have currently. The plan is to out-compete GW directly, on all fronts, with superior rules systems, and minis of equal quality sold at around a quarter of the price.

It's an appealing idea, but I'll believe it when I see it. They need better faction concepts (space rats), better artistic concepts (tiny leg syndrome), better sculpts (battle nuns), better sprues (integrated bases) and better casting (that terrain panel that was sheared in half along the mould line). Do all that, and apply it to a faction I have any interest in owning, and I'll be interested in buying a Mantic product.

@GamesNGears

Wow those pictures are incredible... and the next two days are going to crawl by...

Oooh, I especially like your melee Ripper suit GnG! You've managed to turn the wide-out arms to your advantage. It looks like he's just super-backhanded someone with the saw and has swung around to put the fear of the ram into someone else.

That is a sweet mini-building Ed!

And finally, I'm loving how large the mawbeasts are. Kind of like lion-dogs.

 Da Boss wrote:

 Taarnak wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
...Warpath is a bit creatively bankrupt...

 Da Boss wrote:
...compete with the likes of GW's tyranids...

Does. Not. Compute...

I hope that they start world-building soon. Background and details is the biggest thing they are missing for Warpath in my opinion.

~Eric

Hah, well caught. I meant in terms of sculpt quality, because nothing I've seen from them is as good as the big tyranid kits GW are releasing, and that's what I really want to see with the Zz'orr or whatever they are- big scary non humanoid aliens of some description!

The space rats are just a massive disappointment, especially with the way Mantic hyped them up to be something huge and then it turns out they're just mutated vermin on ships. That was really lame.

Just having a bit of fun with you. I agree about the Zzorr, they were disappointing. Too blocky for my tastes.

I wish they had been more like this:

Artist's page for more of this character.

I like the idea of the Veermyn, but the execution there needs some fine-tuning as well.

~Eric

@"The_Operator more Deadzone Miniatures to be posted tomorrow and terrain. Was real fun for us to put them together. Cannot wait to get them painted up

@Grimdork , thanks! Was good fun, We are looking forward to do the other sets too! Mawbeasts are really sweet.

They look even better once you get rid of the silly integrated bases.

I really hope Mantic drops it when they 'go big' for Warpath.

Me too please god or mantic or anyone! I've cut off 60 something of them for warpath minis already, and will likely be cutting off 200 before deadzone is done =/

Ooh man these terrain creations are getting me pretty excited! Just got my shipping information, a 16lb package is on its way...

The news about Warpath is interesting too. I always hoped Mantic would do this. GW needs some serious competition and I get the feeling that the blokes at Mantic can pull of some pretty amazing stuff given the time.

I don't even care if Warpath shuts down 40k, even if it gains a steady following in the region of what warmahordes and or infinity are pulling off it'll be good times. SOmething like I've heard of it, a friend or two plays it, but I haven't yet... is way easier to get someone into that than 'i've never heard of that and don't want to play it now go die in a fire unbeliever!'...

I'd be quite happy if Mantic went straight for GW's jugular. I think warpath has a serious chance to obliterate 40k, especially as 6th is such a crappy, er, cinematic, game with random (dammit, I mean cinematic again) chance. I want quality rules (Mantic has been great at providing these) and quality models. If the news that Mantic is unhappy with plastics currently being given to them and they're stepping on the necks of those who are making and screwing the models up while doing everything they can to please us...great!

Have the rules been released yet for the zombies? I vaguely remember hearing that they would function as hazards for all players, but do we know any specifics yet?

I really do wish Mantic would drop the intergrated bases but kind of think its here to stay :(

Im really looking forward to seeing what the next 12months bring for Mantic. They've got me interested in wargaming again in a way I haven't been for a few years. I've spent most of the day digging through my ks boxes throwing together buildings like it was Lego.

before I head to bed heres one last photo for you. Its the same building as before but with 1/4 of a fortification sprue added. It really makes a difference in my mind. Tho I must say those corner pieces are a pain in the arse to fit at first.

Ok, what I'm needing now is playable army lists for Enforcers and Rebels so I don't need to do more thinking than I have to tonight!


I now have assembled

1 Enforcer Commander
8 normal Enforcers.
1 Enforcer with blade
1 Enforcer Engineer with Bob and Dummy
1 Enforcer Sniper
1 Enforcer with scary laser gun thingy
1 Enforcer with missile launcher

May be a pain.. but they toughen the buliding up substantially.

 GrimDork wrote:
May be a pain.. but they toughen the buliding up substantially.

definitely! The front bits are really cool too they add about half an inch to the tiles thickness!

Really need more connectors tho, im going through them at quite a rate. Should be able to save some by glueing them together. I hope mantic make them an addon in the 2nd survey.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'd be quite happy if Mantic went straight for GW's jugular.

Sure. I'd also be quite happy if GW went straight for Mantic's jugular - good, cheap miniatures are good regardless of whether it's Mantic undercutting GW on price or GW undercutting Mantic on quality. As long as someone's trying to cut the legs out from under the other, we benefit.

Those sound like some pretty ambitious long term goals and I wish Mantic the best of luck as they'll need it to avoid similar magnitude misteps like those of the past year. It's good to see people happy with their terrain purchases and they do look like nice kits.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Other stuff I remember from the seminar:

- Warpath, lots of stuff about Warpath.

Mantic is pretty much done with having any interest in riding on GW's coat-tails as far as Warpath goes. Nowhere near as much 40k/ GW fanservice stuff in future.

It is more interested in going for GW's throat via straight-up competition. Ronnie wants to rely on Mantic's own background, its own IP, own terrain, own mats, own rules, own everything, done on its terms without taking into account GW and only providing 40k compatibility in some models as an afterthought. General idea is that eventually even people who are right now saying "Oh, Mantic sucks, I only play GW, nothing else" will be won over by sheer quantities of hard plastic (fom the sounds of it they're looking to gear up for 4 hard plastic kits/month once they're done validating the new production method), sold at even more aggressive pricing than what they have currently. The plan is to out-compete GW directly, on all fronts, with superior rules systems, and minis of equal quality sold at around a quarter of the price.
.

That would be amazing. I really hope they succeed. I also look forward to finding a way to fit in some Dreamforge minis.


Eventually Mantic needs to put out some novels and kill Black Library. I hear Graham McNeil and C.L. Werner are quick to spot new opportunities.

They're testing it out with a Short Story compilation first, aren't they?

 scarletsquig wrote:
Mantic is pretty much done with having any interest in riding on GW's coat-tails as far as Warpath goes. Nowhere near as much 40k/ GW fanservice stuff in future.
(...)
They really don't want you to be playing 40k or making it cheaper for you to play 40k, they straight-up want you giving their own games a try.

And they want people to forget about Tolkien and read Mantic novels. And they want people to quit World of Warcraft and play Mantic Online. Yeah, sure. Big words for someone who has lost all German tabletop distributors (only Dreadball boardgame left) because of all those kickstarters.

Warpath 3.0 beta with go up when the kickstarter launches to be picked apart and playtested by backers (by this point a lot of people will have an army's worth of Warpath just in DZ models anyway).

So Mantic still can't afford a single release without people paying them blindly in advance? Maybe they are not yet the giant to crush GW
And a kickstarter to stop retailers worry about Mantic' flood of kickstarters? Sounds like a plan. Not a good one, but a plan
Putting actual SciFi miniatures into the Warpath starter might be a good start.

BTW is it really the third Warpath ruleset in 2 years, as Warpath started end 2011?

The terrain does look good, If they can solve their mold-line issues they might be able to regain lost customers.

I also agree integrated bases need to go, especially since they can't stay consistent with them.

What the heck took Kroot so long?!?

SS - any word on whether or not Mantic is sticking with integrated bases?

I think in the comments or an update they said something about purchasable connector sprues on the cheap, we'll have to see what they say now since they've actually had things made.

Would love to see the short story book spawn some novels. May actually go back to buying new books and reading them instead of reading old stuff.

On the bright side...

I could now do my very own Krooters gotta Kroot image, with my own models!

 Compel wrote:
They're testing it out with a Short Story compilation first, aren't they?

Yaayyyyyyy. Do we know when and how it will be released?

Am I the only one who doesn't mind integrated bases? I glue em in, pop on some flock, can't even tell. I realize I am a minority here. I'm not saying I love them or even prefer them...I'm just indifferent and don't have any complaints about them.

It was part of the rewards for like recon+ or something. By second survey time surely. Although I have a feeling the rules-having books will be PDFed early and the compilation was always meant as a PDF. So as soon as it's done hopefully?

It'll be in the compilation book or whatever it's called so they'll have to have them down in time for the survey, is what I was trying to say. Hopefully sooner.

This is really testing my memory...

However, I believe the backers are getting the short story compilation as an Ebook at some point (Second survey time?) - I seem to remember a bunch of the contributors had already finished their stories.

I also remember a mention in an update that they were going to actually print it as part of their Deadzone Compendium book.

I guess making an actual standalone booky book in print is a ways off.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't mind integrated bases? I glue em in, pop on some flock, can't even tell. I realize I am a minority here. I'm not saying I love them or even prefer them...I'm just indifferent and don't have any complaints about them.

You and I, we're not like them. We purposely bought more Men at Arms. Normal is not in our experience.

 Alpharius wrote:
What the heck took Kroot so long?!?

SS - any word on whether or not Mantic is sticking with integrated bases?

No idea, but I'm considering using the integral bases as the actual bases for deadzone, so far all the minis seem to stand up okay without the need for any extra basing.

I'll play my first DZ game tomorrow night (70 point rebs strike team - commander, 2x human, drone, both grogan variants and a teraton) and will see if it works out okay or not.

They're planning an online seminar sometime soon for deadzone backers so that might be a good question to ask.

@Timetowaste, I almost always replace my default bases with scenic bases or clear arcylics. It's a bit of an annoyance but meh.

Now, if I start putting together my mantic undead... I may leave them on their integrated bases and just cover them over with some putty/plaster and then paint and flock sure. I'll probably do those as display bases and can probably hide the integrated minibases pretty easily. So for that they're fine.

I think if they want people to be using 100 models+ with additional vehicles, the integrabases are likely to stay, they're kind of there to make getting stuff together quicker.

Man...ebooks.... sigh.

I still haven't read Bloodstone of Cerillion yet. It's on this computer, but somehow the internet always gets in the way. I've actually read 4 or 5 paper books since I've downloaded it, too. I guess I'll have one more pdf to open and never read...

Oh wow... You really don't get many enforcers for your points.

Especially since the enforcer sergeant / energy gauntlet isn't out yet.

For 70 points I get....

Peacekeeper Captain
1 guy with wristblade / Engineer
Missile Launcher
2, yes 2 Enforcer troopers

I take it you can't swap the sergeants equipment any place?


Conversely for the rebels, you get

Rebel Commander
Teraton
Missile team
3 human troopers
1 yindij trooper
1 Grogan with desolator
1 survey drone

More alt poses we messed around with and a small conversion with the head and entrails hanging out. Bases are Micro art.







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Wow, those tear sprue marks on the leg and head of the Gen 2 look rough. Mold Lines ruin a great model. I hope you are not done cleaning those as it looks like the Gen 2 guy has a bulletwound in the side of his head with that sprue damage.

I would like to see how mold line cleanup and tear marks impact a fine paintjob of a regular person painting production run vs professionals painting prototypes.

TBH, looks like all of my stuff has been clipped rather than torn/twisted off, a large chunk of vent is left for the person to clip/ clean off themselves, which suits me just fine.

Nothing but a bit if additional filing, green stuff and paint will sort it.

Thanks for the pics! Was nice to wake up to ; ) Terrain is looking great, as are the good quality close ups of minis.

Is restic bendable ie. with the hot water method?

GamesNGears wrote:
Nothing but a bit if additional filing, green stuff and paint will sort it.

Models needing green stuff to fix what should be avoidable damage?

That's a bit much...

Yeah you can do hot water and bend it to shape within reason. That usually fixes minor issues.

Compel, try:

(29) PKA Captain
(10) Enforcer w/ rifle // assault enforcer
(10) Enforcer w/ rifle // '
(10) Enforcer w/ rifle // '
(11) Enforcer w/ missile launcher

Captain and 4 enforcers. Or you can convert or counts as the sgt and get 6. I will freely admit that the captain forces you to take a fairly basic team or only 4 guys (the ones I brought are as cheap as the enforcers can muster), and this is especially true when you consider campaigns and experience increasing unit costs.

Taking an engineer with the captain is fairly tricky because you will lack a heavy weapon and can't take enough troops to get one. (2 troops and not enough points, or 1 troop but can't take 2 specs with 1 troop).
You *can* do it, captain engineer, rifle/assault, rifle/assault.. but no heavy weapons to shoot down big bads or what not.

Enforcers definitely give you some interesting listbuilding challenges.

Have you looked into using the sniper as a leader? 2-1 and in a campaign his likelyhood to get kills will help you advance him (hopefully in the command stat to be on par with the sgt eventually). I haven't tried a list just yet but I think it offers intereseting possibilities. He'd free up a couple of points but lose out on overall command (and requires a trooper to balance him out). Another option for the 6 enforcer 70pt structure. Interesting that his 3 command total lets you move in two groups, not much different than moving optionally 4 followed by 2

A kit-bashed sergeant is fairly easy: chop the energy gauntlet off a corporation sergeant and switch it for where the energy sword hand is. I'll post pictures of mine tomorrow or Tuesday. I have two done this way, and if cut in the right place, it looks totally natural.

 Alpharius wrote:

GamesNGears wrote:
Nothing but a bit if additional filing, green stuff and paint will sort it.

Models needing green stuff to fix what should be avoidable damage?

That's a bit much...

Heads for those models are factory pre cut, not on sprue. Just checked it again. It not really that bad, should be sorted once primed. Have had worse with forge world and we love FW and other high end resin except DZC minis. Also does not seem to be a running theme for all the kits. So pretty happy here.

Ok folks. This is my last post of a very Deadzone heavy day. - And it's now 2:30am.

First up, we have a gamut of Enforcers I've assembled - Not all today, thankfully.



A closer view of the new kits...



And, finally, a comparison of the 3 Enforcers we've seen so far.

Dreadball, Deadzone and Warpath.





And to round off the night, some personal-model pics I don't think there really has been seen on the thread yet.

My Deadzone rebels so far....



Commander *Redacted* and her pet Survey Drone, Martha. - The moldlines were pretty easy on most of the models, however it appears that I did manage to screw them up here...



Donna The Teraton brawler and her partly painted, adopted Dad. Her sisters, Mika, Leyla and Rafaela will be joining her in the not too distant future.



Finally, a bit of a comparison pic of some Deadzone rebels and an Infinity... something. I can't be the only person that decided to fill out their Rebel trooper numbers with infinity figures. Considering their poses, they match up pretty darn well in my mind! Even the gun fits in!

Yeah, I was figuring it should be an easy conversion to get an EF sgt, now I just gotta dig up one of my spare EFs..

 Compel wrote:

Finally, a bit of a comparison pic of some Deadzone rebels and an Infinity... something. I can't be the only person that decided to fill out their Rebel trooper numbers with infinity figures. Considering their poses, they match up pretty darn well in my mind! Even the gun fits in!

Infinity ALEPH "Chandra" SpecOps figure if anyone is interested as to what it is.

Cheers!

I just sorta browsed through the site and went 'ooh that looks cool' and bought it, without really looking at, or remembering her name.

Wow, those mold lines and integrated base moon boots are awful.

I am seriously interested to see a single person who actually cleans those models and paints them and the mold lines don't destroy the final model.

nkelsch wrote:
Wow, those mold lines and integrated base moon boots are awful.

I am seriously interested to see a single person who actually cleans those models and paints them and the mold lines don't destroy the final model.

Already seen some that looked great, linked pages ago from the demo models shipped out once the production stuff arrived.

So it looks like i might be getting my package in on tuesday. I'll make a detailed photo breakdown of everything. Like i did for the Dreadball stuff. The orcs really do look great.

Remember, US peeps - just because the label's been created in the software with our address; it doesn't mean it'll necessarily be packed/shipped tomorrow.

yep, I expect mine to not arrive until atleast the 16th. anything before that is fantastic. (but it's fun watching the fedex estimated delivery date!)

I dont mind the integrated bases in KOW. But they seem pretty awful in Deadzone, especially the disco platform boots.

At least you guys got your notification.

Im definitely getting more terrain on the second survey. I went model heavy the first time and only got an extra 4 battlezones.

nkelsch wrote:
Wow, those mold lines and integrated base moon boots are awful.

I am seriously interested to see a single person who actually cleans those models and paints them and the mold lines don't destroy the final model.

Here are some. No mould lines evident, nor is any damage from removing them. Large mould lines look bad, but they don't really add any difficulty to the cleaning process - if anything, they make it easier imo. They're easier to see so you're less likely to miss obstructed ones and the opposite problem, where you have an indent in the model, is much harder to fix. So yeah, so long as the mould lines are in good locations I'm fine with them - when they're going over a face, I shake my fist at Mantic and curse them ; p

Been through a good number of mine and they seem OK. A few minis had mould lines on them (along the sides) but they were easily removed, certainly nothing like the 2nd wave of Dreadball stuff if people were concerned about that.

Out of interest, does anyone know when that Plague Mortar team is coming along? Was it one of the optional extras?

Forum monster decided to eat my double post after multiple refreshes, leaving the one saying it was a double post.

@Pacific, Here is a Plague Mortar from an unboxing.

All these great pics have me constantly checking my UPS tracking info to see if it is shipped yet.

Can't wait to get my stuff and go crazy building stuff like hyper active kid with new lego.

We are salivating at the minis here. The crew Just cannot wait to paint them in our hobby sessions

GamesNGears wrote:
Pictures as promised more to come:

Just note: We did some little pose changes to some of the miniatures. We also used Micro Art Studio bases & forge craft games bases. We did a bit of cut work as the miniatures have a mini base attached to them that gets insert into the main Deadzone bases. We had a bit of fun. Awesome Miniatures.









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Those Marauders look pretty boss! Particularly the Ripper suits!

Yeah I'm loving the marauders, I think they came out really well.

 Compel wrote:
They're testing it out with a Short Story compilation first, aren't they?

I certainly hope so. Ronnie has gone on record, during interviews and the like, to say that he does really want novels set in their universes, and they are indeed testing the waters.

My quiet, and entirely biased, hope is that the short-story anthology will leave them with a pool of genuinely interested writers who want to do something more expansive. I know, I am one, as I have a couple Warpath universe novels in my mental slow-cooker, right now, just waiting to get worked on if given the opportunity.

Was thinking about the terrain. ANy thoughts on how hard or good it would be to magnetise it? Clipping terrain together via magnets, if it worked well, would be pretty damn easy and awesome imo. Magnets could be obscured by light poles, or made to look like lights or other doodads.

A hybrid solution could be to glue together a bunch of tiles into discrete walls/buildings/rooms/corridors etc, but magnetise the ends so that you could clip them together in various configurations without needing to fuss with potentially dodgy connectors.

I'm just hoping Mantic will remain open to new writers in future compilations. I really wanted to submit something to the Deadzone anthology, but I was finishing up my doctoral dissertation at the time, and what had to be written took precedence over what would have been a hell of a lot of fun to write. Don't think I'd want to tackle a novel at the moment, but I'd love to do a short story.

Need more terrain pictures...

@GamesnGears - Was rotating the Ripper Suit's Chaingun arm to point forwards simple, or did it require green stuff type conversion? Nice effect.

 Yonan wrote:
Was thinking about the terrain. ANy thoughts on how hard or good it would be to magnetise it? Clipping terrain together via magnets, if it worked well, would be pretty damn easy and awesome imo. Magnets could be obscured by light poles, or made to look like lights or other doodads.

A hybrid solution could be to glue together a bunch of tiles into discrete walls/buildings/rooms/corridors etc, but magnetise the ends so that you could clip them together in various configurations without needing to fuss with potentially dodgy connectors.

Oh, I like that idea. I will have to try it out when I get mine.

Several magnets holding two prefab sections together? Maybe. Holding together tiles to build s structure? Probably not, too easy to collapse IMO.

Just downloaded my copy of 'Creating Dreadball'. Did not even realise we were getting these. If I get a chance I'll flick through it and post up my thought's.

Yes mine arrived too,

as well as the missing season 2 upgrade packs


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Just up on Facebook

Mantic have listened to the requests for extra connector sprues for Deadzone and put them up on the website


http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/deadzone-connector-sprue.html

So when is the second survey due?

 manrogue wrote:
All these great pics have me constantly checking my UPS tracking info to see if it is shipped yet.

Can't wait to get my stuff and go crazy building stuff like hyper active kid with new lego.

Do you know what's going on with the UPS shipping then? I got an email days ago saying that the estimated date of delivery was the 28th, but the tracking page just says "Order Processed: Ready for UPS"! No indication of things moving forwards at all. Looks like I might have to give them a ring.

Not that this isn't all going under a tree anyway, but seeing all of these lovely photos has made me keen to lock this down...

Mantic have been playing with the terrain sprues

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Mantic have been playing with the terrain sprues

That is really awesome. How much $$ is a set up like that?

That looks more interesting to play on than the rolling hills and sparse terrain of a wargame.

That does look pretty cool! However I kinda want my buildings more 'realistic' and not so abstract. If that makes sense. Although im rapidly going through sprues to make complete buildings so I may have to build some like that. Plus ive just ordered some more connectors since ive used half of mine on the buildings below.

That terrain looks really great (with the exception of the sentry gun thing). If Mantic manage to not majorly mess up the injection plastic troops, they might have a real winner on their hands.

The more I see of this terrain the more impressed I am with it. That picture really shows the versatiltiy of the sprues. I can't wait to finally get my hands on it.

It would be awesome if they could get Abnett in on some books. I'd love to see what he could do with the setting.

Is the Survivor figure supposed to be metal or restic? I could swear I've seen both. Is my mind just playing tricks on me, or is he available in both materials?

 Barzam wrote:
It would be awesome if they could get Abnett in on some books. I'd love to see what he could do with the setting.

Is the Survivor figure supposed to be metal or restic? I could swear I've seen both. Is my mind just playing tricks on me, or is he available in both materials?

Survivor is restic.

Theres a metal alternative survivor in the pre release dz boxset limited in number. The ks backers can get it in restic in wave 2.

The difference is the pose with the ltd ed being in a pose more like the artwork.

 edlowe wrote:
Theres a metal alternative survivor in the pre release dz boxset limited in number. The ks backers can get it in restic in wave 2.

The difference is the pose with the ltd ed being in a pose more like the artwork.

Fair enough, didn't catch that.

I don't know how much of this we've seen already (taken from a sculptor's video posted a couple of months ago that I missed), but here it is anyway, component pics of the deadzone zombies:




I wanted to spend more of today putting together terrain sprues, but instead spent it in hospital.

After 18 hours over 2 days of playing with knives, saws, glue and other potentially dangerous implements of miniature goodness... a kickstarter package arrived at my door (not a mantic one), and I excitedly rushed to get it, smacking my foot into a doorway in the process and breaking a toe clean in half. Just a friendly word of gamer advice, don't get *too* excited when you hear that doorbell.

I was supposed to be playing deadzone tonight...

Thats ok it was tucked away in comments or an update somewhere. To be honest they dont look that different. Im not sure I really need both, but then again it is ltd Ed





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 scarletsquig wrote:
I don't know how much of this we've seen already (taken from a sculptor's video posted a couple of months ago that I missed), but here it is anyway, component pics of the deadzone zombies:

I think my wallet just ran out of the room.

I've pulled together a wiki group to showcase all the custom terrain configurations that people have come up with as a central source of inspiration for others.

http://deadzone-emporium.wikia.com/wiki/Terrain_Configurations

If you want to add your stuff feel free to PM me or send me a message on twitter @munkeykungfu

And they're 100% compatible with the zombies and ghouls, right?

Mobile pics not the best pic. of a game of Deadzone Demo on a Games & Gears Anime Wars Battleboard. The terrain pics above this post above is really impressive.






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 Vermonter wrote:
@GamesnGears - Was rotating the Ripper Suit's Chaingun arm to point forwards simple, or did it require green stuff type conversion? Nice effect.

Simple rotation, the ammo feed was a tad tricky, a little bending with hot water for the perfect fit.

Squig, I hope your foot heals up quickly! Also, those zombies are gorgeous...I'll be adding on the B3G4thF offer...twice, perhaps. My second survey may cost more than the initial pledge. >.<

Get well soon, Squig. You fell in the line of duty.

I'm glad the zombies are looking good, as I plan to use them as better looking 3rd gen models. Not so pleased at the prospect of paying for more connectors, though, if it turns out that I wasn't given enough to use in my battlezones to begin with. If. Can't complain, as I don't have any terrain in my hands to assess connector quality / quantity yet.

@GamesandGears - Your boards are beautifully done, and I know you have Deadzone grid overlays, but is there any chance you guys might make a dedicated Deadzone board in the future?

 Vermonter wrote:
Get well soon, Squig. You fell in the line of duty.

I'm glad the zombies are looking good, as I plan to use them as better looking 3rd gen models. Not so pleased at the prospect of paying for more connectors, though, if it turns out that I wasn't given enough to use in my battlezones to begin with. If. Can't complain, as I don't have any terrain in my hands to assess connector quality / quantity yet.

To be honest you can get away with less connectors in a build but its a safer bet to join each joint . I've managed to break a few trying out different builds so ive popped an order in for 3 more sprues.

Im probably going to end up getting 8 boxes of the 4th gens to bulk out my warpath force. Im not far of having 7 units for it already from my 3 plague starters plus boosters.

Got to remember how much cool stuff there is on wave2 looks like I'll easily spend more than my inital pledge plus survey addons combined.

Theres the two new factions plus boosters, zombies, heavy enforcers, more mercs, 5 different mechs, a new scenery sprue and possibly plastic enforcers sprues. Im reconing $300+ easy.

Personally I think Mantic should cash in on Squig's injury, just imagine how amazing the advertisements will be: "Mantic's Deadzone, so exciting you'll break your toes off to play it!!!"

Pure class.

But seriously get well soon Squig. Also I'm really loving what people have done with their terrain so far, it already shows just have versatile this stuff is, now just imagine in a few years
time when even more deadzone sets exist and everyone owns mountains off this stuff, there's going to be some crazy builds before you know it.

GamesNGears wrote:
Mobile pics not the best pic. of a game of Deadzone Demo on a Games & Gears Anime Wars Battleboard. The terrain pics above this post above is really impressive.

Honest question for people who know more about the theme:

So necromunda had lots of 'samey-looking' terrain as it was part of the hive theme. This terrain makes me think like space-colony pre-fab housing and buildings which are designed 'samey' due to function. I am not sure what could possibly have 'two walls' simply standing free for no reason, or what function it serves. Is there any info from the game fluff or design how and why terrain is like it is? are these just wrecked cities or what?

I feel like I would want to build all complete housing units or something.

Just easier to get minis in and out of part built stuff

you could always say your battles are set in a construction site where they are in the process of setting up pre-fabs

Buildings with only two walls have the function of blocking line of sight/providing cover from some directions let allowing easy figure placement during gaming.




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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Mantic have been playing with the terrain sprues

Spoiler:

All those barricade looking things make it look more like a paintball field than a battlefield.

 edlowe wrote:


Got to remember how much cool stuff there is on wave2 looks like I'll easily spend more than my inital pledge plus survey addons combined.

Theres the two new factions plus boosters, zombies, heavy enforcers, more mercs, 5 different mechs, a new scenery sprue and possibly plastic enforcers sprues. Im reconing $300+ easy.

2nd wave is looking too promising at the moment. But I already went in big on wave 1, so I'll be looking to keep my next purchase as close to $100 as possible. I'm currently down for a Marauder / Asterian booster BOGOF, the Helfather, a Plague teraton, and 2 more battlezones, so not bad.

But now that the Brokkrs have broken through my false front of "I don't like Space Dwarfs" I'm hoping that the Forge Guard models end up looking terrible so I won't be tempted to invest in another faction. C'mon Mantic, give 'em giant metallic diapers or something.

I would refer to OrlandotheTechnicoloured post on buildings.

The buildings in the pic we posted, I think is for just quick demo purposes to introduce gamers into the game and new people in the hobby. So not really I think a full blown here is what you can build and do, OrlandotheTechnicoloured post really shows what you can do with the buildings . The demo game I think is just a appeal to gamers to show how quickly you can have a cool looking gaming scene without doing anything time consuming. That's our reading as it was purely built for quick display demoing the game, for those at the open day. That said, it looks cool , but making them into proper one like the post we referred to would add a lot more awesome

 Vermonter wrote:
Get well soon, Squig. You fell in the line of duty.

I'm glad the zombies are looking good, as I plan to use them as better looking 3rd gen models. Not so pleased at the prospect of paying for more connectors, though, if it turns out that I wasn't given enough to use in my battlezones to begin with. If. Can't complain, as I don't have any terrain in my hands to assess connector quality / quantity yet.

@GamesandGears - Your boards are beautifully done, and I know you have Deadzone grid overlays, but is there any chance you guys might make a dedicated Deadzone board in the future?

Thanks! I will answer this in this thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/750/520449.page, were it would be more appropriate thanks for the questions though!

 Azazelx wrote:
So when is the second survey due?

I don't think the Second Survey has even opened up yet, has it?

Yeah same above, really gonna be hard not to go out with wave 2, so much of the current deadzone stuff while not perfect has still exceeded my expectations. If Mantic end up making the cyphers even half as good as I hope they will be
I'll very likely be buying the start of a full Astrain army to get myself into warpath, those BOGOF deals are just perfect for that.

Shame my package hasn't arrived yet I can only watch you guys have all the fun.

@Vermonter
Have the Brokkrs been shown already Verm, I haven't seen them, anyone care to share?

Glad I went in for the buy 60 get 20 free of those zombies. They won't go astray!

Most terrain we've seen has just been basic "provide cover" on a 2x2. Looking forward to the epic 3-5 level high stuff once people get more assembled. Would probably be slower gameplay, but I think it'll be much more in depth tactics involved when you're dealing with so many levels and fire avenues, routes to get around and so on. Will make hover, agile, glide troops come into their own I think.

Definitely going to look into magnetising, main problem I think will just be will the magnet housings might look out of place unless a lot of care is taken. The way I'm visualising it, they'll mostly be on the insides, but at the very least yeah, clipping together discrete building units that are glued together should be doable if far from ideal.

I will admit, that technically the board is what? 2' by 2' by 2'?

I really am tempted to go for glory with a tower... - Lets see how strong those connectors really are!

i think the board is 2'x2'xY where y=whatever you want Unless it actually says somewhere.

I definitely want to work out some 8 tile tall terrain though! I think it will shift the meta of what is good, but rotating such a board in and out of campaigns, or at least knowing it exists ahead of time should sort out any imbalances.

Jump packs will probably the the order of the day.

I think the second survey will be a while off - no point in Mantic sending it out until they know whether the Enforcers will be hard plastic or not (if they aren't they will likely be sending out quite a few refunds).

I got my tracking # a couple of days ago but it hasn't shipped out yet - anyone else in the US had the pledge ship yet?

nkelsch wrote:

Honest question for people who know more about the theme:

So necromunda had lots of 'samey-looking' terrain as it was part of the hive theme. This terrain makes me think like space-colony pre-fab housing and buildings which are designed 'samey' due to function. I am not sure what could possibly have 'two walls' simply standing free for no reason, or what function it serves. Is there any info from the game fluff or design how and why terrain is like it is? are these just wrecked cities or what?

I feel like I would want to build all complete housing units or something.

The background is that the Corporation (who runs the colonies where the DeadZones are declared) is pretty cheap as a result of pure greed, so the containers they ship equipment in to start a colony are designed to be then be converted into colony buildings once things are taken out. It would then make sense that further expansions would require further equipment, shipped in further containers and so forth. Not a completely outlandish explanation since presently we use shipping containers as trailers once they're off the ship.

The two walls is aesthetic choice by the builder; if you want full buildings go for it. Also the ruins sprue that will be sold later would help too. It's like Lego for grown-ups...who also like toy soldiers. Build it how you want today, then take it all apart and do something completely different tomorrow.

@Rolt - Compel posted a good pic of the Brokkrs from Mantic's recent Open Day. You can see them here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/561422-Brokkrs%20and%20Brokkrs.html

 GrimDork wrote:
i think the board is 2'x2'xY where y=whatever you want Unless it actually says somewhere.

I definitely want to work out some 8 tile tall terrain though! I think it will shift the meta of what is good, but rotating such a board in and out of campaigns, or at least knowing it exists ahead of time should sort out any imbalances.

Jump packs will probably the the order of the day.

Yep I really think the board layouts will open up new tactics for different teams/units. Lots of LoS blocking terrain = good for indirect fire such as mortars. 3+ levels = good for jetpacks, agile and hover. Lots of narrow corridors = great for Enforcer defenders, teratons etc. Wide open spaces = good for ranged heavy armies, lots of alternate routes = good for fast assault based armies. Man... I'm fkn loving this without even playing it ; )

Haha yeah. I need the solo rules just so I can try things out while I try to find/indoctrinate some players to battle

Damn straight, I was sad when they weren't coming in wave 1 since IMO they're pretty important to help us get started with Deadzone since so few people will have it to begin with. Also since I'm housebound, it'll let me get games much easier ; p

Solo rules is one of the big awesome things about Deadzone imo. Mantic and Quirkworthy have done so much right with Deadzone, I really hope it takes off like Dreadball has. Once again, you and I are in sync, my American friend! ; ) (I'm not stalking you, honest... BTW, does this rag smell like chlorophorm?)

Just don't make any plans to wear my skin, it's got lots of moles and really you could do better. That, and I'm liable to be pretty whiny if kept trapped in a 20ft pit.

I intend to spread the word of Deadzone and the joy of Mantic wherever possible. I want to arrange a "traveling kit" consisting of two viable forces (maybe a few more points than 70 so I can switch it up inbetween games), maybe a few mercs and the stand-outs on the side to draw attention too, and enough terrain to get a good feel for DZ, all along with the mat rulebook dice etc. The mat and rulebook will probably have to go into my messenger bag, but the rest of it I want to fit into a planno xl accessory/4 pistol case so its easy to transport. I've got a couple of gamestores within an hours drive (but not really any serviceable stores in town), so I plan to feel out the situation at each and see if they'd be down for me demonstrating deadzone at some point. If we had solo rules I could just show up and play by myself and see if anyone wanted to sit in

If you go hard with spreading Deadzone, I don't doubt Mantic will offer you some support if you can show them you're doing it well. Warmahordes (Privateer Press?) have a system where they do great things to spread their game, and it's doing wonders in Australia.

I've been tempted to do something similar with Barzam when time permits for both of us (which would probably be quite rare until at least summer rolls around).

We've got a few shops within an hour or so drive of us. The most local I don't think I've ever seen a game played there, despite having a large and prominent table in the way of their merchandise shelves and displays.

Once both of us get a good handle on the rules, fight against each other and other family members a few times, it might be fun to bring some pieces to show off.

Bioptic wrote:

 manrogue wrote:
All these great pics have me constantly checking my UPS tracking info to see if it is shipped yet.

Can't wait to get my stuff and go crazy building stuff like hyper active kid with new lego.

Do you know what's going on with the UPS shipping then? I got an email days ago saying that the estimated date of delivery was the 28th, but the tracking page just says "Order Processed: Ready for UPS"! No indication of things moving forwards at all. Looks like I might have to give them a ring.

Not that this isn't all going under a tree anyway, but seeing all of these lovely photos has made me keen to lock this down...

Yeah, it is showing "Order Processed: Ready for UPS" as they have created the label but not yet shipped the parcel.

Ronnie explained in the video Mantic put out last week that the orders shipped were trial orders and they will begin shipping in full this week.

They are sending out shipments again today, so hopefully we will see a change in the tracking info. Us couriers guys are supposed to go first.

 scarletsquig wrote:

After 18 hours over 2 days of playing with knives, saws, glue and other potentially dangerous implements of miniature goodness... a kickstarter package arrived at my door (not a mantic one), and I excitedly rushed to get it, smacking my foot into a doorway in the process and breaking a toe clean in half. Just a friendly word of gamer advice, don't get *too* excited when you hear that doorbell.

I was supposed to be playing deadzone tonight...

Ouch! Sorry to hear that.

Does that at least mean you get some time off work?


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 Alpharius wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
So when is the second survey due?

I don't think the Second Survey has even opened up yet, has it?

I mean due to happen, not due to close!

Q2 2014 was what they said back then and I'm not thinking its changed.

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

@Azazel - I work from home, so no time off, but I can still get stuff done. Could be worse, the warehouse job I was doing a few years back had no sick pay.

Probably about time I posted my open day pics:

Terrain sprues (landing pad and defense line):



A fifth battlezone is heading out to retail next year, it will have long walls (to create proper 45 degree corners to buildings) and other assorted extras.

And, just for a laugh.. a (rejected) WIP render for the deadzone rebs walker, before the size of the gun was toned down quite a lot:



The DZ walker will be much bigger than the dreadball one, there was a slide that showed the DB walker render inside the DZ one and the DZ one is about 33% taller, it is not just going to be the dreadball mech with new arms, it will properly fit the pilot inside.

As for putting together the terrain it is apparently for the best to get a tiny square file into the connector holes to widen them up a bit. It seems like the engineering doesn't really take flash into account. I don't have anything that small so I'll stick to just clipping off and gluing.

One thing to keep in mind when making large buildings is access, getting minis inside... as a solution I've created a freestanding wall using the buttress connectors (one on each side), so that 3 sides of building's walls are glued together, and one wall can be removed when needed to put minis inside.

Also, someone on the mantic forums had the idea of magnetizing everything.. could work *really* well... thin bit of metal over the connector recesses and cube magnets to hold everything together!

I'm thinking that could be the best way to go about it if you really want sub-assemblies or flat-pack terrain that can be very quickly thrown together before a game.

Lol that walker looks well top heavy!

Wow, that terrain looks good! Spoilering the pics since most of you have already seen them:

Does anyone know if the Ruins battlezone should have been in this shipment or is it next shipment?

Lulz, that walker render is definitely compensating for something!

Oh mah gerdz! FedEx just sent a new email saying my package is estimated for tomorrow at 10:30. For those UK folk who already got theirs, is this the notice I can count on or do I still have to take it with a grain of salt?

 Baragash wrote:
Does anyone know if the Ruins battlezone should have been in this shipment or is it next shipment?

Ruins are the only battlezone that didn't make the first shipment.

Grats Grim!

 GrimDork wrote:
Oh mah gerdz! FedEx just sent a new email saying my package is estimated for tomorrow at 10:30. For those UK folk who already got theirs, is this the notice I can count on or do I still have to take it with a grain of salt?

I got the same thing. Unless everything is being sent by overnight air it seems unlikely since the ship date is today... and overnight air seems like pretty generous shipping.

And, of course, signature is required so I won't get it until the next day anyways. Pfft.

It begins…



The time has come. We’re all heading over to the warehouse today to start building Deadzone orders ready for shipping.

2013-11-27 09.09.31
If you can believe it, it’s now even more full of boxes than this photo shows!

As such, we’re only going to be sporadically online over the next week or so. This means Kickstarter messages, Facebook messages and emails will not be answered straight away. If you’ve got an urgent query, please use the web contact forms or contact us through our Facebook page, but we still can’t guarantee we’ll pick it up immediately! We really are putting all hands to pumps to deal with the behemoth that is Deadzone. We hope to be back to normal in a couple of weeks!

In the meantime, here’s a short FAQ that might answer your query before you have to ask it:

I’ve got some missing pieces in my order! What do I do?

Please complete an Order Query Form so we know all the details, and we’ll get it sorted out for you as soon as possible.

I’m waiting on an order I made through www.manticgames.com. When can I expect it?

Deadzone is taking up most of our warehouse staff’s time and attention, but the next batch of orders should be going out either at the end of this week or the start of next week.

How about pre-orders?

That’s not a question! However, pre-orders will start shipping next week. Deadzone boxed game pre-orders will go via courier – that’s next day delivery for the UK, 2-3 days for EU, US and Canada, and a little bit longer for the rest of the world.

I’d like a review copy of a game / sponsorship for an event / prizes for a tournament / etc. Can you help?

We’re all about supporting the community, but we’d really appreciate it if you could come back and ask us in January – otherwise your request is likely to get lost amid everything else!

How is James so awesome?



I’m afraid that’s a company secret.

It might be mystical Bear Wizard powers.
Probably mystical powers.

Thanks for reading. If you could share this post to your friends, that would really help us out.

Have a great week!

So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

Well I didn't want to go balls deep on my first mantic kickstarter

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

39.9 I blame Squig.

It's not the size of the package, it's the density of the terrain...or something.

*drinks more coffee*

I have 2 tracking numbers apparently. One sent on Sunday and a different one today (both for 10.8 pounds). I'm curious which one will be the real one.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

Nineteen pounds? You light weight. 24.3 pounds.

Triple9 wrote:
I have 2 tracking numbers apparently. One sent on Sunday and a different one today (both for 10.8 pounds). I'm curious which one will be the real one.

The one sent today. the one from Sunday was letting you know that your tracking information had been entered into the FedEx system.

solkan wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

Nineteen pounds? You light weight. 24.3 pounds.

Ha!

You too apparently!

Krinsath wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

39.9 I blame Squig.

It's not the size of the package, it's the density of the terrain...or something.

*drinks more coffee*

Krinsath - do we dare ask how much you pledged?!?

 Alpharius wrote:

Krinsath wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

39.9 I blame Squig.

It's not the size of the package, it's the density of the terrain...or something.

*drinks more coffee*

Krinsath - do we dare ask how much you pledged?!?

I think it was the "Give us your first born child pledge/"

 Krinsath wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

39.9 I blame Squig.

It's not the size of the package, it's the density of the terrain...or something.

*drinks more coffee*

Don't forget to add the alt survivor and new battlezone and probably a ton of the new hard plastics in the second survey.

Will those of us that are getting everything in the first survey (because I think I am...) get a second survey?

It's been so long, I forgot what was coming in the first shipment...

I got the EB game (140 level) and 50 bucks for the faction boosters (the buy 1 get 1) and I think I chose Rebs and Enforcers...

 carlos13th wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:


*snip*

Krinsath - do we dare ask how much you pledged?!?

I think it was the "Give us your first born child pledge/"

Suppression Team + 3 mats (6'x4' you see...) + a bunch of Terrain (to cover all that space, or build my own hive city on a normal board) and a few miscellaneous boosters. Again, I blame Squig completely.

I spent more on DFG, at least from a pledge perspective. If the goods are solid there might be a smidge more spent on the second survey, but I doubt it'll exceed those levels. It does occupy the #2 spot in my backer history, and edged out KD:M's pledge+survey ever-so-slightly. It's nice having a job that could support a wife and kid and having neither of those things...well, sometimes anyway.

I suspect it's due to the ridiculous amount of terrain between ST and the additional ones (I forget how many ruins I had that won't be coming yet).

Alpharius-- we should all get 2nd survey and enforcer bundle will be second shipment.

I know.

Perhaps you meant Alfndrate or Azazelx?

 Alpharius wrote:
I know.

Perhaps you meant Alfndrate or Azazelx?

Everyone is Alpharius.

Good point...

Its a good thing this phone is getting replaced soonish... still that's better than Ralph right

 GrimDork wrote:
Alpharius-- we should all get 2nd survey and enforcer bundle will be second shipment.

I'm Alpharius now? I feel dirty, and sick. I don't wanna be a Patriots fan!

You should be so lucky...

woot, got my email (10.8 lbs), made for a nice bday surprise

Sooooo, has anyones Fedex email gone In Transit yet?

I'm still waiting for mine. Got my notice last week but nothing else :(

I got a second email from Fedex today with a different tracking number in it. Like the first one I got, it's still telling me that I'll receive the package in a rdiciulously short amount of time. Neither tracking number shoes anything as being in transit though.

 greenskin lynn wrote:
woot, got my email (10.8 lbs), made for a nice bday surprise

Happy Birthday - December Babies are the Best Babies!

Although, I got my tracking number info a few days ago, but I don't think they package has actually shipped yet...

Yeah NY expected delivery is tomorrow at 10:30am CST... yeah... and given that it's 9 something in the UK right now and no change to shipped... kinda wonder about that.

I just got a shipping notice as well, going out today to be delivered tomorrow. I doubt that. Lol. Also, mine is 10.8lbs, I feel like a lightweight next to some of you with 30+lb packages...

overtyrant wrote:
I'm still waiting for mine. Got my notice last week but nothing else :(

Surprised at that, seeing as you paid for courier shipping.

 Alpharius wrote:

 greenskin lynn wrote:
woot, got my email (10.8 lbs), made for a nice bday surprise

Happy Birthday - December Babies are the Best Babies!

Although, I got my tracking number info a few days ago, but I don't think they package has actually shipped yet...

yep, its a magical month

Just putting together some of the plague troopers. Must say im really impressed with them. They got a huge amount of detail to their skin, more so than some nurgle plaguebearers I was working on recently. They really are sweet figures although I know their not to everybody's taste. I cant wait to put an army of them together along with the plastic plague zombies.

It's Fedex's crappy shipping manager software. If you create a shipment in it, it assumes it will be shipped immediately and will arrive in the shortest possible time. In reality, the shipment has been created, digitally (it's id is the tracking number), and the physical shipment will not exist until it's been physically packed and the physical label has been applied to it and scanned into the system - usually the first time is by the Fedex employee who is receiving the goods onto the Fedex truck.

So all this means is Mantic is prepping everyone's shipments, transferring the customer info into their Fedex ship manager software... it could be a day, or a week, before your physical shipment gets actually scanned as 'received by Fedex'. Then the estimated delivery date will update with a real estimate.

Anyone know what to use the reverse connectors for? The ones that seem to make 2 panels overlap each other? - Are they for open doors or something?

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
So I just double checked my FedEx shipping notification (after seeing GrimDork's post... I didn't realize how much stuff I'm actually getting until I saw the weight of package... almost 11 pounds of mantic-y goodness...

I think the new e-peen is going to be heft of Mantic packages!

(Nineteen pounds here baby!)

My pledge is still only $11.



I like my plastic hard.

Does anyone use the reverse connectors for anything on the terrain?

On first impression they really don't to have the stength to do much and I can't see why you'd use them instead of a right angle or a horizontal one.

 Compel wrote:
Does anyone use the reverse connectors for anything on the terrain?

On first impression they really don't to have the stength to do much and I can't see why you'd use them instead of a right angle or a horizontal one.

I have no idea at the moment, noticed them tonight and thought they were odd. Wondered if they were for putting the fortified door in a semi closed position.

Have you used the stairs yet? They look like originally they were ment to clip together to make one set.

Yeah, in the last video ronnie mentioned using two halves to make the stairs.

Those building kits are looking great all painted up. Starting to regret not getting in on the KS but I couldn't afford it at the time. Might look into a retail copy with xmas money

As promised some more pics as we get ready to play Deadzone this weekend on the Anime Wars Battle Board with the 3" Grid Overlays.





The basing and conversions for two models where purely used from the Deadzone Scenery from the Deadzone Boxset. The weapons are from the Deadzone Scenery sprue to, did some cutting and made them into hammers



We messed around and had a lot of fun. Swapped some of the arms around

Your two modded second gens are awesome Stellar work!

it's weird, i got another shipping notification, but nothing changed. i scratched my head. lol

I got a second notification as well, same tracking # but no progress. I don't understand FedEx's system. I'm pretty sure my Deadzone box is still waiting to be packed in the mantic warehouse, and won't be delivered by 10.30am tomorrow.

willb2064 wrote:
I got a second notification as well, same tracking # but no progress. I don't understand FedEx's system. I'm pretty sure my Deadzone box is still waiting to be packed in the mantic warehouse, and won't be delivered by 10.30am tomorrow.

Good god man, way to be optimistic. Mine is getting delivered tomorrow by a naked Jessica Alba wearing angel wings.

Hah! Now that's the way to be TTW I, however, and extremely married and therefore shall not be saying "me too". No sir. I'll cross my fingers that it is at least somewhat accurate though, and maybe my box will actually ship tomorrow or the next day, and then be here by the end of the week

It's better than my WWX shipment at the moment, last update leaving a sorting facility in California on Saturday. I'm not sure what the point of tracking information is when packages get put on three or four day long travel segments...

The best part is when there's no information for 3-4 days and it skips to delivered, and magically about 7 scans show up for those days after the fact.

I'm reasonably sure Ronnie's video said they weren't shipping "for real" until Wednesday anyway as they waited on the last components. If it's here next week that'd be good enough for me, though the weather is going to be nice Friday so if by some miracle they get it here I wouldn't argue...

^What Krinsath said. If its here by the middle of the month I'm good, any earlier is much gravy.

I'm just hoping it gets all the way down here before the end of the year, I won't have any of the plastic mans ready to fight but I want the mats for NYE

 timetowaste85 wrote:

willb2064 wrote:
I got a second notification as well, same tracking # but no progress. I don't understand FedEx's system. I'm pretty sure my Deadzone box is still waiting to be packed in the mantic warehouse, and won't be delivered by 10.30am tomorrow.

Good god man, way to be optimistic. Mine is getting delivered tomorrow by a naked Jessica Alba wearing angel wings.

Idle Hands was a great movie....

*sigh*

:-p

 timetowaste85 wrote:

willb2064 wrote:
I got a second notification as well, same tracking # but no progress. I don't understand FedEx's system. I'm pretty sure my Deadzone box is still waiting to be packed in the mantic warehouse, and won't be delivered by 10.30am tomorrow.

Good god man, way to be optimistic. Mine is getting delivered tomorrow by a naked Jessica Alba wearing angel wings.

I got that same exact notification - good thing you're a fellow New Englander, so I can totally believe it is 100% still happening.

On my Birthday no less!

I keep checking my fedex number, hoping my package is suddenly going to travel halfway across the world in the span of a few hours.

All the more irritating is I'm also waiting on a large pile of Black Friday purchases that are in various states of transit.

I want my new toys! It's not like I have piles and piles and boxes and boxes of unpainted stuff laying around!

Got another Fedex number and neither one has moved.

Apparently mine will be here tomorrow! Excited now

 Slinky wrote:
Apparently mine will be here tomorrow! Excited now

Mine too! Just hope they try to deliver it whilst the cleaner is about (or leave it next door).

 Riquende wrote:

 Slinky wrote:
Apparently mine will be here tomorrow! Excited now

Mine too! Just hope they try to deliver it whilst the cleaner is about (or leave it next door).

Not mine though


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Just downloaded a UPS app lol!

 Slinky wrote:
Apparently mine will be here tomorrow! Excited now

As will mine! Bazinga! And it's being delivered at work too :-)

Nice modelling, thanks for the pics G&G!

If we don't have courier shipping, will we still be notified when it ships?

Ugh, they set it for signed shipping. I guess I'll be calling FedEx and having it reroute to the office. All the girls at work can pick on me for opening it there and salivating at it.

Turns out Jessica Albany was busy today, showing up naked at Alpharius'a house instead of mine. Rumor has it Paris Hilton tried to show up naked instead, and my neighbor beat her off with a broom. I need to bring my neighbor a tray of "thank-you" cookies.

It's all ending up going via courier as RM refused to deal with it as many of the packages were too big/too heavy for them

so I presume everyone will get a courier dispatch note

I just checked the number from my second notification and it's actually been picked up and started moving!

Yay!

Oooh, I should check mine again.


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...Nope! Not worried though, it'll be soon enough. And I just got an enforcers suppression team to work out the first part of my strike force in the mail

I just checked both of mine. Neither has moved, but I did notice that the ETA has been removed.

Woo mine's on it's way, so I almost certainly won't get it today, I'll probably have to go to the local UPS depot to get it instead.

No sign of movement on mine, sad times :(

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's all ending up going via courier as RM refused to deal with it as many of the packages were too big/too heavy for them

so I presume everyone will get a courier dispatch note

RM absolutely refuses to send any package over 2kg/4.4lb unless it's papers only, then I think the limit is 3 or 5kg. If you try, they just refer you to a courier and that's the end of it, or you take your shipment and split it into amounts of 2kg. Recently experienced this receiving things from a friend over there, 2.9kg and it was cheaper and faster to go by courier than to split it over 2 RM boxes.

In other news, no word yet for me either.

 manrogue wrote:
No sign of movement on mine, sad times :(

Remember, the more people who get theirs, the closer yours gets the to the front of the queue!

I wouldn't mind, but 3 other friends who went in later than me (first 10 mins of Kickstarter going live lol) have got theirs and are rubbing the plastic crack in my face!

The only plus size is mine is bigger than theirs!

 manrogue wrote:
The only plus size is mine is bigger than theirs!

Might be something in that, mine is a relatively small delivery (only adding a few scenery sprues, everything else is a wave 2 item), maybe they're taking a bit more time to get the massive packages together.

Out for delivery as of 05:10 GMT

Just taking a brief break from packing things to check around online. I'm pretty envious of some of the boxes that are going out! Haven't got my hands on my own copy yet, but the more boxes I pack the more exited I get! Also, Strike Team backers - you guys are getting a crazy quantity of terrain included with your pledge.

I've seen some insane orders, though. One of the ones we packed yesterday contained 80 Core Worlds sprues! Madness.

By the way, I take it you guys saw the Titan Games board? Loads of pictures here: https://www.facebook.com/titangamesltd

The villain appears! Yeah we've been drooling over all the nice stuff people have been showing off. Would be tough packing box after box of this stuff for other people!

Yeah, figured it was the size as i have ordered a lot of the ancelotti's workshop stuff, lot's of the scenery, 4 mats etc. Just me being impatient

Mine is probably a pain to put together, just hoping it arrives before weekend as was hoping to play at my club Tuesday.

Out of interest to the UK guys, anyone planning to go to Total Wargamer this Saturday for the demo games run by Pathfinder Chris?

80 core world sprues. Thats mental.

I went for a strike team with an asterian booster as an add on. May switch add a few dollars though and get the forge father / ASterian that I think were two for $50

Out for delivery, and I am working from home

Well, I missed out on the KS, so ordered a pre-release box, with extra scenery, from my usual eBay shop. Wasn't expecting to see it for a while, so imagine my surprise when it turned up!

 lagoon83 wrote:
80 Core Worlds sprues!

Someone is indisputably building an actual house out of Deadzone terrain

"Delivered".

Hooray!

Now to get through about 5 hours of work...

A coreworld battlezone was originally 4 sprues wasn't it? 2 of each design. But the sprues got split in half during manufacturing so now it's 8 sprues (but they are half the size of the original planned) so I'm due 144 core world sprues if that's the case (plus 3 fortification and 2 landing pad) storage maybe an issue soon! (I'm looking to fill an 8x4 table with fully built multiple storey buildings before anyone asks - I worked it all out on paper but it will probably still be a shock when I see it in person)

Delivered also! Woot!


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 lagoon83 wrote:
Just taking a brief break from packing things to check around online. I'm pretty envious of some of the boxes that are going out! Haven't got my hands on my own copy yet, but the more boxes I pack the more exited I get! Also, Strike Team backers - you guys are getting a crazy quantity of terrain included with your pledge.

I've seen some insane orders, though. One of the ones we packed yesterday contained 80 Core Worlds sprues! Madness.

By the way, I take it you guys saw the Titan Games board? Loads of pictures here: https://www.facebook.com/titangamesltd

You're not kidding mate! Just opened mine.. Wow!

I'm heading back over there soon for another afternoon of vicarious enjoyment! Every time I pick up those terrain sprues, I start thinking of what could be done with them... there are already so many awesome setups appearing online!

Just make sure you pack and post mine as priority when you go back lol

James, should all of the packages have gone out now for those whop paid for courier shipping? A friend of mine still hasn't had a UPS update, and he paid the extra.

Should we set up a separate thread so people can update their Deadzone shipping status in it?

Also - has anyone outside the UK received their pledge rewards yet?

FedEx says mine's about sixty miles away, and may actually get here within three hours or so.

Do we know what the base sizes are in Deadzone/Warpath?

I need to order a bunch of bases for my Integrated Base Removal Project.

Thanks!

 Alpharius wrote:
Do we know what the base sizes are in Deadzone/Warpath?

I need to order a bunch of bases for my Integrated Base Removal Project.

Thanks!

Alledgedly 25mm basing it (/rimshot) on the information provided here: http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/paint-hobby/bases/product/mantic-bases-25mm-round.html

Some models are on 40mm bases.

 Alpharius wrote:
Do we know what the base sizes are in Deadzone/Warpath?

I need to order a bunch of bases for my Integrated Base Removal Project.

Thanks!

I don't think it really matters rules-wise

Not even in Warpath?

 Alpharius wrote:
Not even in Warpath?

Not sure. Last time I looked at it all the models were just wound counters for the Sergeant and had no in-game function.

The final shape of Warpath's ruleset is still very much in the balance.

Alpharius wrote:Do we know what the base sizes are in Deadzone/Warpath?

I need to order a bunch of bases for my Integrated Base Removal Project.

Thanks!

For Warpath, they're either on 25mm round bases or 40mm round bases (with some things, like the Corporation weapons teams, on 60mm bases.)

In Deadzone, models on 40mm bases are:

Enforcers:
- Captain
- Peacekeepers

Plague
- First Gen
- Second Gens
- Plague Teraton
- Plague Swarm

Rebs
- Teraton
- Weapons team (I *think* - I'd check, but everyone who knows is in the warehouse or in meetings!)

Marauders
- Ripper Suits
- Warlord
- Hulk

I think that's all of 'em! Someone correct me if I missed any.

lord_blackfang wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Do we know what the base sizes are in Deadzone/Warpath?

I need to order a bunch of bases for my Integrated Base Removal Project.

Thanks!

I don't think it really matters rules-wise

Technically it does (in Deadzone) if you go with "any part of the base counts for Line of Sight purposes", but I know some people are house-ruling to not count bases, so it all depends really!

Lagoon83 any idea if Mantic is planning to phase out these daft integral bases that cause more problems than they solve? Would it help if we did a poll?

James, has all the UK orders that have paid for courier shipping been sent out as I'm a sad panda

 rosafari wrote:
Lagoon83 any idea if Mantic is planning to phase out these daft integral bases that cause more problems than they solve? Would it help if we did a poll?

I actually like the integral bases quite a bit. What I hate is models that BARELY have any contact points with the base and you feel like they may break off if you touch them.

Huzzah! My insane order is moving in a FedEx vehicle as of 3:52PM UK-time and should be delivered tomorrow morning if FedEx is to be believed.

Might have to come in late tomorrow to facilitate delivery... >_>

It's arrived!

My only beef is that the battlezone sprues aren't in their own box, but they instead just packed them in with extra styrofoam peanuts. Which seems to have worked out okay, but it's going to make a huge mess in a few minutes.

rosafari wrote:Lagoon83 any idea if Mantic is planning to phase out these daft integral bases that cause more problems than they solve? Would it help if we did a poll?

A lot of people really like them - but you know what we're like, if enough people really want a change, it's something we'll consider! Maybe a poll could be an idea

overtyrant wrote:James, has all the UK orders that have paid for courier shipping been sent out as I'm a sad panda

I'm afraid I'm not sure - I got booted out of the warehouse as they didn't need me, so I'm back at the office.

solkan wrote:It's arrived!

My only beef is that the battlezone sprues aren't in their own box, but they instead just packed them in with extra styrofoam peanuts. Which seems to have worked out okay, but it's going to make a huge mess in a few minutes.

We keep packaging on Kickstarters to a minimum - that way we keep shipping and production costs down (in line with the crazy deals we do during Kickstarters!)

 Nick Ellingworth wrote:
Woo mine's on it's way, so I almost certainly won't get it today, I'll probably have to go to the local UPS depot to get it instead.

I was wrong, UPS actually put my parcel in my shed. Thanks random UPS bloke.

Now to go play with my new toys......

 lagoon83 wrote:

solkan wrote:It's arrived!

My only beef is that the battlezone sprues aren't in their own box, but they instead just packed them in with extra styrofoam peanuts. Which seems to have worked out okay, but it's going to make a huge mess in a few minutes.

We keep packaging on Kickstarters to a minimum - that way we keep shipping and production costs down (in line with the crazy deals we do during Kickstarters!)

I don't blame you or them for doing that, but I just spent ten minutes sorting through the packing peanuts for the pillar pieces that came off the fortification terrain sprues due to random movement during shipping, and when I got to the bottom I found two 30-40mm holes in the box that didn't cause problems simply because it was covered by the Deadzone box.

Edit: Correction: A one inch by one inch hole one one side, and a two inch by three inch tear on the other. Both luckily on the portion of the box next to the Deadzone internal box, which was wedged in place by about two thirds of my terrain sprues.

Boxes get shipped in boxes for a reason.

But that's my only complaint. Now I'm going to sit down, eat pizza, and play with all of my new plastic toys.

James can I ask why some of the models have disco era platform shoes.

 carlos13th wrote:
James can I ask why some of the models have disco era platform shoes.

The 70s are making a comeback! Haven't you heard? Afros are back in, Saturday Night Fever's getting a remake, the Bee Gees are cool again.

Okay, most of that might be a lie.

It's so they fit into the bases - it's not ideal, though, and we're going to stop it happening. Personally, I'd just get a modelling knife, trim them down and texture the base so it's not an issue any more

 carlos13th wrote:
James can I ask why some of the models have disco era platform shoes.

I'm not James, but I'll take a swing at this one.

It is a failure in the QC process.



Edit: You mean platforms like the ones on the lower left figure here were intentional?



I would have preferred the poor QC excuse as opposed to intentionally poor design.

Got my notification.
Looks like they're on route to Canada!

 lagoon83 wrote:

overtyrant wrote:James, has all the UK orders that have paid for courier shipping been sent out as I'm a sad panda

I'm afraid I'm not sure - I got booted out of the warehouse as they didn't need me, so I'm back at the office.

A likely story, I reckon you were booted out due to all the packing errors. Apropos of nothing, thanks for the bonus core sprue.

 lagoon83 wrote:
Just taking a brief break from packing things to check around online. I'm pretty envious of some of the boxes that are going out! Haven't got my hands on my own copy yet,

*Insert your own "oh really" meme/demotivational here*