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Do folks tend to board things like ships often on bikes in Infinity? It's a nice model but I personally prefer the alternate chopper sculpts. It'll be good though for folks who want variety for a different faction.
MajorStoffer wrote: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this model be, well, extremely limited in use? You have to roll the right result on the Booty chart.
Nice sculpt and all, but I can't help but think there are some more pressing missing profiles.
Very, very true.
Perhaps, with this model as a release, you may be able to select an ABH with a bike, rather than allowing a roll on Booty: Lvl 2? Its theoretically the same cost, since it takes the place of an item you might get anyway.
Sweet baby Jesus, that is one beautiful miniature.
warboss wrote: Do folks tend to board things like ships often on bikes in Infinity? It's a nice model but I personally prefer the alternate chopper sculpts. It'll be good though for folks who want variety for a different faction.
I think there have been far too many chopper-style bikes! I'm not an American, and reserve the right to hate Harley Davidsons and anything that resembles them
Absolutionis:
It is indeed the resculpt of last season's ITS mini. They do this every year. The previous season's ITS mini is released as an alt sculpt for retail.
Yes, it's a situational set for the off chance you roll a bike on the Booty Level 2 chart.
The ABH looks to be separate from the bike, so she could be modified to fit on both a regular base and the bike base with a little work (pinning or magnets- or even a drop in base on the 55mm with something to prop her foot on).
Once again, something not for everyone.
I think this is one of those "This model might not be really useful in the game, but it's relatively easy to produce from available components, and it'll get decent sales for secondary projects" models.
As Knight said a few pages back, I would have no problem with someone automatically rolling the required result to field this unit. Or play it as another bike model.
Some pics from AG's Facebook page. The more I look at this the more I like it. That bike is also either really light, or she has very strong legs, looking at the resting angle.
So...we got a redone Penthesilea. Hair the same, face the same, headgear the same, bike the same. this one just has some visable armor on and isnt a robot. highly unimpressed
str00dles1 wrote: So...we got a redone Penthesilea. Hair the same, face the same, headgear the same, bike the same. this one just has some visable armor on and isnt a robot. highly unimpressed
Sangarn wrote: Look like the guns are getting bigger and bigger ...
we only miss the shoulder plate to have a pure spessmarinn
My thoughts as well. One of the things I love about Infinity is how precise and delicate the sculpting is with the miniatures. I don't think just from viewing the pics one can appreciate just how small they are. It makes it a real challenge for the modelling and painting side of things, but it helps set Infinity out from some of the other ranges within the sci-fi side of wargaming.
But! I'll reserve judgement until I see the miniatures, of course.
Micky wrote: Really putting the Heavy into HI these days.
And it looks nicely chunky and non-streamlined as befits a lower tech faction like Haqq
Azra'il are also meant to have intentionally chosen an older, bulkier type of armour for its intimidation factor.
I mostly like it. The ankle situation is a bit off for me but it's not a killer.
Not sure what to do with the old one now, I hadn't painted it yet, and it won't even be close to the size of this guy.
That's pretty sweet, may have to put him on the list!
Also, Miniature Market, has some kind of March Madness sale going on for a bit (didn't see how long) with several Infinity minis pretty deeply discounted. Not quite 50%, maybe 40%? Didn't see anything I desperately needed but there were maybe 20-30 on offer.
Well damn. Guess I need to make a QK list that incorporates the Azra'il now. He's really damn impressive. I'm glad that they enclosed his helmet this time around, too.
I saw Miniature Market has the Panzerfaust Azra'il on sale for their March Madness thing. Too bad he's now useless since his profile was removed.
I hate reading about MM sales for Infinity. Back when €:$ was 1,5 or so you could still save a bit even with paying the massive shipping costs (got lots of 9$ Dust squads) with the right deal, but certainly not anymore :/
I really like that model. He may be making his way into my lists in future; his profile is slightly weird, having an X-visor for a gun with already good rangebands, but I guess it makes him a menace at virtually all ranges.
Charles Rampant wrote: I really like that model. He may be making his way into my lists in future; his profile is slightly weird, having an X-visor for a gun with already good rangebands, but I guess it makes him a menace at virtually all ranges.
Well X-visor is not attached to a weapon, but works in all abilities and range bands, I guess discover would see the main benefit, or the pistol in its extreme range, I guess for some reason.
Was there much complaint on the official forums about the loss of the lobster and its kin? If there was I'm sure they will listen and release an updated army list for the Exrah at some point.
tommse wrote:The old Azrail can be used with the updated Ahl Fassed profiles. They have the appropriate weapons.
That's a very good idea, thanks!
PsychoticStorm wrote:
Well X-visor is not attached to a weapon, but works in all abilities and range bands, I guess discover would see the main benefit, or the pistol in its extreme range, I guess for some reason.
Cinematic John Woo-style kill at the end of the game?
Was there much complaint on the official forums about the loss of the lobster and its kin? If there was I'm sure they will listen and release an updated army list for the Exrah at some point.
tommse wrote:The old Azrail can be used with the updated Ahl Fassed profiles. They have the appropriate weapons.
That's a very good idea, thanks!
PsychoticStorm wrote:
Well X-visor is not attached to a weapon, but works in all abilities and range bands, I guess discover would see the main benefit, or the pistol in its extreme range, I guess for some reason.
Cinematic John Woo-style kill at the end of the game?
That was happening right when I started visiting the forum and it could get...heated, at times. Not pretty.
The chance to get the Exrah back with the current miniatures seems to be tiny despite the outcry. Sharp bits ruined the molds fast, the minis didn't sell that well, potentially tge designers didn't like them anymore? Stuff like that.
I'd love to see the lineart for this. I'm curious if they're going to give him a unique HMG design. Seems like the standard one would be too small. I hope they give him a belt fed minigun.
He's too big.
I'd like to see a side-by-side of Geckos, Ajax & the Azra'il.
How do they explain what's supposed to be a regular sized human fitting into that massive suit? At least Geckos are proportioned like TAGs and have regular sized human hanging out of them & Ajax is essentially a super robot. Yan Huo are a similar case, but at least they just made them up instead of hijacking a previously iconic infinity unit.
That said, strictly as a model itself, it's great. But it doesn't make sense in the fluff or the alleged scale of the game.
I guess you would need to see a super-imposed outline of where the human form would be in all of that, although I agree you can't imagine the human inside's elbow and knee joints corresponding with those in the suit. Perhaps there is some other arrangement (perhaps arms and legs just extend to the elbows/knees, and the pilot uses a control mechanism?)
As for the background, the new mini fits much better than the old one going on the official description
The Azra'il normally carry out aggressive patrols, seeking deliberate and provocative contact with the enemy. The choice of an older model of heavy armour is an intended and premeditated decision. Not only because it is a link with each individual Azra'il's past- a reminder of their fall into disgrace- but also because it is more bulky, and thus more threatening, in appearance.
Bladerunner2019 wrote: He's too big.
I'd like to see a side-by-side of Geckos, Ajax & the Azra'il.
How do they explain what's supposed to be a regular sized human fitting into that massive suit? At least Geckos are proportioned like TAGs and have regular sized human hanging out of them & Ajax is essentially a super robot. Yan Huo are a similar case, but at least they just made them up instead of hijacking a previously iconic infinity unit.
That said, strictly as a model itself, it's great. But it doesn't make sense in the fluff or the alleged scale of the game.
That's a pretty ridiculous scale creep JUMP - wow!
I am waiting for the new Yao gats before starting a new Morat force. Tha Azra'il looks nice and all but I have been waiting for the Yaogats model to be revealed....
Bladerunner2019 wrote: He's too big.
I'd like to see a side-by-side of Geckos, Ajax & the Azra'il.
How do they explain what's supposed to be a regular sized human fitting into that massive suit? At least Geckos are proportioned like TAGs and have regular sized human hanging out of them & Ajax is essentially a super robot. Yan Huo are a similar case, but at least they just made them up instead of hijacking a previously iconic infinity unit.
That said, strictly as a model itself, it's great. But it doesn't make sense in the fluff or the alleged scale of the game.
That's a pretty ridiculous scale creep JUMP - wow!
Granted the Azra'il went from a normal S2 to S5...
Some references I've been looking at:
Other S5 units include: Ajax, Tarik Mansuri, Sogarats, Yan Huo, Charontids.
some S6 units include: Geckos, all varieties of dog faces, Anathematics, Sphinx, Uhlans.
I'm ok with a modest size increase to bring the Azra'il in line with newer HI choices.
Unto itself I really like the model.
However when I reconcile those 2, It's hard to picture a man in that suit when everything else that is S5 has a good reason for being a huge man. They're either a vicious alien, a crazy robot, a unique genetically engineered super soldier, or one of the most advanced mobile artillery infantry suits made by mankind.
For a plain HI choice with a Feuerbach, does the Azra'il NEED to be a 3 meter tall titan?
I'm being rather nitpicky here, & it's on me for not bothering to notice the unit entry changed them to S5.
Then again, I'd be pissed if I played Haqq. The old Azra'il was an iconic Infinity miniature. Now Im forced to replace it with this glandular freak who, while tougher, is less useful because he's huge and slow.
As someone who plays Haqqislam, has the original Azra'il miniature .. I have to say I'm not that bothered, and actually think this is an improvement in some ways!
Let me explain. Firstly, regarding the use of the original mini. I love the original one (I use the guy running with the panzerfaust as part of a QK list), you've got a choice of using him as an MI - The Fassad, or even a Sekban with ML might suit the armour style a bit more. As for the fact that the helmet looks the same as the new Azra'il, you can imagine the components for armour being modular, even being used in effect how different pieces of plate armour were combined in the middle ages; there would be some 'spec' armour from an arms company that made the helmet, and can be fitted on different armour units.
This actually fits the idea of Haqqislam, and specifically the mercenary Qapu Khalqi concept well. Bourak doesn't have access to the cutting edge technologies of Pan O or Yu Jing, you can imagine them getting shipments of older armour from other parts of the sphere and upgrading its systems in the same way as the Nomads. The armour is older, bulkier technology, they shouldn't have the MI-sized HI of someone like Aleph or even Yu Jing.
As for rules-wise, making it tougher has now fit as something along the lines of a mini-TAG. Will be good as a defensive or support unit, remembering that the Haqqislam faction has never been about HI and always short on options in that capacity compared to the others.
As I said the only bit I'm not sure about now is where it fits fluff-wise, in terms of if its a gene-boosted guy inside like Tarik Mansuri (like you say Blade Runner, this isn't a massive Morat warrior inside). AFAIK there hasn't been any background update for the unit, but one would have to assume this is the case?
Just my thoughts on it anyway! Have to say I'm looking forward to getting this guy and painting him in a camo-scheme, (not that it will help him hide at all!)
Bladerunner2019 wrote: He's too big.
I'd like to see a side-by-side of Geckos, Ajax & the Azra'il.
How do they explain what's supposed to be a regular sized human fitting into that massive suit? At least Geckos are proportioned like TAGs and have regular sized human hanging out of them & Ajax is essentially a super robot. Yan Huo are a similar case, but at least they just made them up instead of hijacking a previously iconic infinity unit.
That said, strictly as a model itself, it's great. But it doesn't make sense in the fluff or the alleged scale of the game.
WTH!!! I did not think scale creep was that noticeable but that is just wrong! So this is the new route for infinity... updating stuff with computer tech and scale it double size??? Not cool.
iirc Bostria told us at the National of Barcelona that the size of the older Azra'ils was just because the the guy doing the sculpt got the size wrong, Azra'il were always supposed to be this size.
Pacific wrote: This actually fits the idea of Haqqislam, and specifically the mercenary Qapu Khalqi concept well. Bourak doesn't have access to the cutting edge technologies of Pan O or Yu Jing, you can imagine them getting shipments of older armour from other parts of the sphere and upgrading its systems in the same way as the Nomads. The armour is older, bulkier technology, they shouldn't have the MI-sized HI of someone like Aleph or even Yu Jing.
Not quite true. Haqqislam actually has a unit in some of the highest tech powered armour in in the Sphere - Asawira are noted as having the finest light powered armour available. They just don't spend that sort of money very often.
Azra'il - and this is flat out stated in the fluff right from N2 - choose to use outdated, overly large, intimidating powered armour. It's not about having the best, it's about someone rounding a corner and gaking themselves when they see the Azra'il.
Personally, I was always disappointed in the Azra'il models. Not that they were bad (they're fantastic), but did not get anywhere near fitting the units fluff. The new model absolutely does. The old models were simply far too small, even for the era they were sculpted. They look like MI, not HI in intimidating, overly large armour.
That said, I really wish they added a Fauerbach option to the Fassed to go with the Rifle/Panzerfaust profile, dropped the old, ugly Fassed model, and simply repurposed the old Azra'il into new Ahl Fassed. Would have pleased both sides.
Also, correct scale was not the strength of the first Infinity miniatures. I still shudder when thinking back to some of my nomads back then. That always kept me from really getting into Infinity.
Bladerunner2019 wrote: He's too big.
I'd like to see a side-by-side of Geckos, Ajax & the Azra'il.
How do they explain what's supposed to be a regular sized human fitting into that massive suit? At least Geckos are proportioned like TAGs and have regular sized human hanging out of them & Ajax is essentially a super robot. Yan Huo are a similar case, but at least they just made them up instead of hijacking a previously iconic infinity unit.
That said, strictly as a model itself, it's great. But it doesn't make sense in the fluff or the alleged scale of the game.
WTH!!! I did not think scale creep was that noticeable but that is just wrong! So this is the new route for infinity... updating stuff with computer tech and scale it double size??? Not cool.
It's not scale creep. Its a redesign of the concept. The old model was too small for what it was, the new model has a higher ARM, and specifically says it uses outdated, massive, bulky power armour. It's not like the new Akali is twice the size of the old one.
warboss wrote: Sweet Jesus, INFINITY has gotten their version of the 40k centurion suit! That thing is huge.
Oof please don't mention those things. At least the new super-massive Infinity models look dynamic. Centurions look more like the Christmas story kid
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aldo wrote: iirc Bostria told us at the National of Barcelona that the size of the older Azra'ils was just because the the guy doing the sculpt got the size wrong, Azra'il were always supposed to be this size.
I'd like to see that if true. It would explain a great many things.
The previous Azra'il did come out during the period where CB was releasing very small things compared to their original lot of models.
Much like the female Hsien for example.
I'd also be interested to see the old & newer infinity models measured for size like a police lineup. Also compare those models to something allegedly of a 35mm scale, like Knight Models Batman miniatures.
Infinity is supposed to be 28mm scale. I guess S2 size ought to be 28mm. I Would like to see how they've deviated above or below that norm over the years.
warboss wrote: Sweet Jesus, INFINITY has gotten their version of the 40k centurion suit! That thing is huge.
Oof please don't mention those things. At least the new super-massive Infinity models look dynamic. Centurions look more like the Christmas story kid
It's definitely more stylish and better posed execution of the same not so great concept. I would have been fine with it if it had been a head taller than other power armor but that thing looks like it is almost gecko sized. At that size, is there any difference in it functionally in the rules between that big of a heavy infantry power armor and a small manned TAG? From what I've read here in the thread, you can hack both but I don't know if what you can do with each is different.
edit: assuming that they're on the same sized base (not sure.. lmk if not), it looks like it is midway between a gecko and infantry.
Ok, so his hands and feet obviously aren't IN the hands and feet.
I guess it makes sense, as technology advances it become smaller, more efficient. Mobility starts to be favoured over armor etc.
Warboss wrote:
edit: assuming that they're on the same sized base (not sure.. lmk if not), it looks like it is midway between a gecko and infantry.
Actually, if you look at it stat-wise it's not a whole lot off the Gecko. A bit slower, 1 less structure point, 1 size smaller silhouette (and.. can't fight in zero-g? ) But, it's a fair bit cheaper in points.
I agree the concept seems somewhat similar to a GW Centurion (although, guy in powered armour is a pretty common sci-fi trope!) although the Centurion I think is probably one of the worst miniature releases by GW in recent years, and doesn't come out very well in the comparison.
The proper GW analogue would be terminators, who are already huge enough. Centurions are just plain stupid.
WH40k ASIDE!...
S5 HI is much better than a gecko.
TAGs are vulnerable to more hacker programs.
That aside, most of us are underwhelmed with the gecko unit profile. They're an expensive unit, have mediocre weapon choices & are very squishy for TAGs.
The S6 PanO TAGs are far superior, but you don't see them since there are no models out yet...
If only I could be so grossly incandescent.
And if only Corvus would release her before the normal Tik (no, they wont, Tiks being the dumb brother they will be the first ones to be released so everybody buys them to proxy as Tony)
Warboss wrote:
edit: assuming that they're on the same sized base (not sure.. lmk if not), it looks like it is midway between a gecko and infantry.
Actually, if you look at it stat-wise it's not a whole lot off the Gecko. A bit slower, 1 less structure point, 1 size smaller silhouette (and.. can't fight in zero-g? ) But, it's a fair bit cheaper in points.
I agree the concept seems somewhat similar to a GW Centurion (although, guy in powered armour is a pretty common sci-fi trope!) although the Centurion I think is probably one of the worst miniature releases by GW in recent years, and doesn't come out very well in the comparison.
Terminator armour, not Centurion armour. Terminator is heavy powered armour worn as your armour. Centurion armour is heavy powered armour worn as armour to your light powered armour. There's no light powered armour underneath the Azra'ils heavy powered armour.
If only I could be so grossly incandescent.
And if only Corvus would release her before the normal Tik (no, they wont, Tiks being the dumb brother they will be the first ones to be released so everybody buys them to proxy as Tony)
As far as the Toni/Tik issue, take the Gecko as an example. One box with both Eduardo ( Toni's Tikbalang's name, FYI) and a regular Tik. They are all S6 silhouettes... and you can field both in a list Is there going to be a FicZone event this month? Seems like it was end of April last year.
Azra'il is big. Hmmm, I may eventually get one. It can block LoF to S2 units if nothing else. The Akalis Spitfire though is a definite. Now, about a SWC box of Regulars, or even Bagh-Mari...
Wow.. lots of new pics. Are the jaguars just sleeveless scruffy Gears of War 3-esque versions of the Alguacil? For those more familiar with the models, do they use the same bodies?
I actually like the shotty Jaguar. I'm not very keen on the Yaogats though. I think it's more to do with the color palette chosen for them. Like that, they look too much like the Vanguard Infantry, just with helmets. I think a scheme closer to the original would've helped them look more unique. Eh, bring out the Rodoks, I say!
Top notch stuff again from Corvus, the Yaogat look particularly menacing! As does the Akalis and then there's the Azra'il which ticks all of the boxes as far as I'm concerned and not a rage fist or convenient rock in sight! Time for a third faction? Not yet! Not yet!
warboss wrote: Wow.. lots of new pics. Are the jaguars just sleeveless scruffy Gears of War 3-esque versions of the Alguacil? For those more familiar with the models, do they use the same bodies?
Definitely not the same bodies, some shared characteristics due to the wonders of CAD but they are new sculpts.
warboss wrote: Wow.. lots of new pics. Are the jaguars just sleeveless scruffy Gears of War 3-esque versions of the Alguacil? For those more familiar with the models, do they use the same bodies?
Definitely not the same bodies, some shared characteristics due to the wonders of CAD but they are new sculpts.
Thanks. I noticied some similarities and wasn't sure if they just reused the same basic CAD model as a start point and changed it a bunch or if it was just an arms/head parts swap like that cosplay gencon model.
I want to see new faction starter boxes. I guess we'll have to wait till AF for that since they'll feature the newer faction models particularly in the case of Ariadna & Yu Jing.
Though we get the new CA box which is entirely new models for units we had not seen before. Not a single shasvasti or morat in the lot.
Akalis Spitfire is not a resculpt. A replacement sculpt yes, but not a resculpt. It is also this month's winner, IMSHO.
Bagh Mari are redone. They just have Neo-Terra Bolt heads on them I use the Cosplay Bolt as a Bagh-Mari proxy. It looks hilarious next to the dainty Bagh Mari sniper.
Is anyone else tired of rage buttocks? Every CB mini now looks like the character has been doing 600 power squats a day, and is crushing walnuts when they walk.
Why not have some buttocks in different positions and poses, relaxing and sitting on something or leaned against a wall? Why does every buttocks have to look like its fully clenched?
Is anyone else tired of rage buttocks? Every CB mini now looks like the character has been doing 600 power squats a day, and is crushing walnuts when they walk.
Why not have some buttocks in different positions and poses, relaxing and sitting on something or leaned against a wall? Why does every buttocks have to look like its fully clenched?
I'll take firm buttocks over their previous obsession ...
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bantha_beast wrote: So apart from the jaguars its basically a month of re-sculpts (or sculpt + a bike)?
Re-sculpts are good to see. CB needs to consolidate their catalogue & update models people aren't buying.
I almost wish AF would come later than next year. It would Give them more time to address some old sculpts that havent held up well.
Along with more updates to basic cheerleader units (zanshi, keisotsu, Kazaks), we could use spot fixes to units that got new profiles or are plain outdated now such as zeros, ninjas, djanbazans & many others I can't recall right now.
The game has enough units to keep in mind. I don't want to see CB bite off more than they can chew by doubling the size of every faction with new sectorials.
Red Harvest wrote: Akalis Spitfire is not a resculpt. A replacement sculpt yes, but not a resculpt. It is also this month's winner, IMSHO.
Bagh Mari are redone. They just have Neo-Terra Bolt heads on them I use the Cosplay Bolt as a Bagh-Mari proxy. It looks hilarious next to the dainty Bagh Mari sniper.
I don't like the design of the new Jaguars in the sense that it doesn't appeal to me, in that I basically like everything about Nomads EXCEPT for the punk and dominuntrix themes. They're excellently designed and realized though.
Love the Azra"il, DAT YAOGAT!
And the sleek techy-bike bounty hunter makes me all gooey inside the way most folks got over the Haqq choppers.
I always picture the scenario for the clenched butts as a random soldier has taken a bullet in the butt and as he's laying on the grounded wounded he sees the teams medic approaching with a ragefist.
A short agruement follows which goes along the lines of "Look, I can either get the bullet out or I can shoot you. The choice is yours."
The wounded soldier takes another look at the ragefist, does one final clench and screamed "Shoot! Shoot! Shoo..."
And now we know the horrible truth about medics and why they kill so many.
Kanluwen wrote: She actually isn't too bad if you bend the left leg and give her more of a standing pose.
Never thought of that minuteman sculpt as a woman, but I never noticed the bare midriff.
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Alpharius wrote: I think the old Szalamandra looks just fine still:
I'd welcome a new one too though - I just don't think it should be at the top of CB's "To Re-Do" list.
Old szalamandra holds up fine.
It's just too damn tiny now. It's almost smaller than the geckos for cryin out loud & it must look absurd on the huge base they're meat to occupy now. I'd like to see it resulted, but they better not ruin it. It's a classic old-guard model, like the old ORC trooper everyone loved so much.
Eh the Szalamandra is an okay model, but it still feels like an old infinity model, like the Guija. Not bad, just very...flat, compared to newer stuff. I'd like to see a resculpt of it that's basically identical but just more like their newer stuff.
If the Szalamandra got resculpted, I'd like to see it at least posed standing up.
But, the one figure that absolutely needs to be redone is the Djanbazan. I don't know if they should do a box of them and replace all of them or just release a couple blisters and replace the rifle and HMG models.
ImAGeek wrote: Eh the Szalamandra is an okay model, but it still feels like an old infinity model, like the Guija. Not bad, just very...flat, compared to newer stuff. I'd like to see a resculpt of it that's basically identical but just more like their newer stuff.
I was about to mention the Guija as well actually, think if you spent some time on that and with a fancy base it still looks pretty good.
The Szalamanda in AG's new painting book looks incredible, it's amazing what one of his new-style paint jobs will do for it.
ImAGeek wrote: Eh the Szalamandra is an okay model, but it still feels like an old infinity model, like the Guija. Not bad, just very...flat, compared to newer stuff. I'd like to see a resculpt of it that's basically identical but just more like their newer stuff.
I was about to mention the Guija as well actually, think if you spent some time on that and with a fancy base it still looks pretty good.
The Szalamanda in AG's new painting book looks incredible, it's amazing what one of his new-style paint jobs will do for it.
i have a feeling we won't see the Guija addressed any time soon. Yu Jing is due to get some attention in their lackluster TAG department when AF comes out.
Supposedly some sort of small TAG unit like the Uhlans/Tikbalangs or Geckos. Allegedly you'll get a pair in one box.
If not, I can't wait to see what else Angel has done with that model!
There is a different one in the book. On a diorama base with a pilot, and with a dirty/used effect all over the armour. Looks bloody awesome! I can't find it on his FB page unfortunately
But I did see.. (I've put some close-ups of the tats in spoiler tags)
ImAGeek wrote: Eh the Szalamandra is an okay model, but it still feels like an old infinity model, like the Guija. Not bad, just very...flat, compared to newer stuff. I'd like to see a resculpt of it that's basically identical but just more like their newer stuff.
I was about to mention the Guija as well actually, think if you spent some time on that and with a fancy base it still looks pretty good.
The Szalamanda in AG's new painting book looks incredible, it's amazing what one of his new-style paint jobs will do for it.
i have a feeling we won't see the Guija addressed any time soon. Yu Jing is due to get some attention in their lackluster TAG department when AF comes out.
Supposedly some sort of small TAG unit like the Uhlans/Tikbalangs or Geckos. Allegedly you'll get a pair in one box.
I don't see how that means we won't see the Guija addressed, Pan-O are still waiting for their Stingray tags and they redid the Squalo
Here I am just wanting Chasseurs which don't like, well, how they do. And that you can only get one of them without buying a starter.
With the para-commando. God help me.
To be honest, the only old-gen model I really like is the reloading Moblot. The quality gulf is enormous, so I'm all for more resculpts so long as keep getting some more options covered; still a few too many gaps out there for my tastes - and I play FRRM and QK, which aren't anywhere near as lacking as some...
To me it just makes me think of those 'art shot' photos, where it's some shadowed crevice and fishnets that always obviously a zoomed in shot of someone's arse
Pacific wrote: To me it just makes me think of those 'art shot' photos, where it's some shadowed crevice and fishnets that always obviously a zoomed in shot of someone's arse
Well a lot of them seem to be crotch shots so it's not even that far off!
Wishful thinking here, but I'd like to see CB surprise us and do a resculpt of something like Shang-Ji. There are plenty of cool units in the range with only one dated miniature to represent a variety of profiles.
Duncan_Idaho wrote: Well, with the EI and Morat more or less done Shasvatii would be the next in line, though only a few designs have aged badly and mostly the weapons.
Caliban box set is still missing, and IMO will shake things up something fierce. I know I'll finally be able to move on from seed soldiers when these lads hit.
Duncan_Idaho wrote: Well, with the EI and Morat more or less done Shasvatii would be the next in line, though only a few designs have aged badly and mostly the weapons.
Caliban box set is still missing, and IMO will shake things up something fierce. I know I'll finally be able to move on from seed soldiers when these lads hit.
- Salvage
Caliban, Seed Soldiers, Gwailos...
Shasvastii basically have no boxed sets for their infantry. They have the Sphinx box and the Shasvastii Expeditionary Force (which is awful for anyone wanting to start playing right off the bat with Shasvastii) and then a ton of blisters.
Kanluwen wrote: Shasvastii basically have no boxed sets for their infantry. They have the Sphinx box and the Shasvastii Expeditionary Force (which is awful for anyone wanting to start playing right off the bat with Shasvastii) and then a ton of blisters.
The box set isn't awful itself. Granted I did pick up the Corax and used the weapons to spruce up the seeds.
As a starting point it is awful, doesn't even provide a legal list to start plaing and Seeds are pretty useless (unless you turn them into Malignos/Shrouded/whatever Shas you can)
I'm hazarding a guess you've never seen a boob before.
He might simply have been making a guess based simply on CB's taste in models? Though, granted, 'the arse' will always be the safest guess in that case.
Kanluwen wrote: Because it's a sniper shot from Corvus Belli, and they love showing off T&A?
I'm asking, though.
What about that says boob to anyone that's seen a boob, real or on on a miniature?
Obviously the zoomed in part isn't an actual boob, but again it isn't a bad guess to make given that the picture seems to be of a left arm taken from a side/rear angle.
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Whats the status of the Wiki?
Last I checked some stuff looked up to date, but then later on the whole site was down.
Is that up and running 100% for N3 yet?
wikispot.org, the website that hosted Infinity wiki (and others) shut down last week. CB is in the process of updating the wiki and moving to a new hosting service. You can still access the old wiki, but no changes at all can be made to it now
Kanluwen wrote: Release list for Mayril according to Mayacast:
Tiger Soldier
Galwegian 45th box set
Fraacta BSG Aquila HMG resculpt
Kaeltar with symbio-mates (some new Tohaa remotes box set. 2 minis +2 remotes)
New Tiger Soldier better not be some massive chunky thing. The concept art looked super bulky. The old female model was good. The older 2 male models were not so good.
It's looking more like the Maghariba redo will be the big gen con early release this year. I keep hoping to see it month after month but no luck so far.
Kanluwen wrote: Release list for Mayril according to Mayacast:
Tiger Soldier
Galwegian 45th box set
Fraacta BSG Aquila HMG resculpt
Kaeltar with symbio-mates (some new Tohaa remotes box set. 2 minis +2 remotes)
New Tiger Soldier better not be some massive chunky thing. The concept art looked super bulky. The old female model was good. The older 2 male models were not so good.
It will be super bulky. They're overly relying on the digital sculpting process now.
warboss wrote: It's looking more like the Maghariba redo will be the big gen con early release this year. I keep hoping to see it month after month but no luck so far.
You better not be kidding me. I thought it was gonna take a long time for them to sort that one out.
warboss wrote: It's looking more like the Maghariba redo will be the big gen con early release this year. I keep hoping to see it month after month but no luck so far.
You better not be kidding me. I thought it was gonna take a long time for them to sort that one out.
It's a guess/hope on my part not a rumor. I wouldn't put much stock in it beyond they do a big kit early release for gencon and to my admittedly limited knowledge its the only one previewed in cartoony concept art form yet to be released.
If it's bulky, due to digital sculpting then you know it's exactly as bulky as planned, because if it wasn't, they could easily modify the mesh and reprint.
There has definitely been a bulking out of some of the miniature lines over the past year, although the things are still bloody tiny when you get them in your hands.
Although, I was looking at some early Zanshi the other day and I would say the biggest change you notice is that they are far less detailed than the current sculpts. Some of the proportions are somewhat different also.
ImAGeek wrote: I don't think digital sculpting is the reason, you can make bulky models traditionally and slim models digitally.
That's exactly what it is.
They've stated time and time again that their goal is to transition to purely digital sculpts as it cuts down the man hours for them.
I'm not saying they don't do digital sculpting. I'm saying that the fact they're digitally sculpting isn't the reason everything's bulkier, it's because they're sculpting everything bulkier. You can sculpt less bulky models digitally still, so it must be a conscious decision to sculpt bulkier models.
Kanluwen wrote: Release list for Mayril according to Mayacast:
Tiger Soldier
Galwegian 45th box set
Fraacta BSG Aquila HMG resculpt
Kaeltar with symbio-mates (some new Tohaa remotes box set. 2 minis +2 remotes)
New Tiger Soldier better not be some massive chunky thing. The concept art looked super bulky. The old female model was good. The older 2 male models were not so good.
I feel the exact opposite. The two originals are good minis. Solid combat poses (aiming down the sights, my word!) and good composition overall. The female model was terrible. Horrid comic-style T&A pose that would make Rob Liefield do a double take to check spine alignment. What's more, it suffered from tiny frail ankles because CB kept on pushing smaller and thinner on so many female models (the re-sculpted Zhanshi were also bad for this).
The originals are less detailed but better minis overall. The female is a horrid pose attached to a poorly designed sculpt that was way too fragile and lacked any sort of style.
The new Tiger can only be an improvement if they bulk it out a bit and keep similar high quality poses to the originals. It would also be nice if we could get a female sculpt not playing at being a contortionist as well (just deciding where to place the LoF arc on that thing was a headache).
A conscious decision to make more money yes haha
They use to have the best traditional mini sculptors ...
... now we have FW sculpt grade mini but in metal so a pain to convert/glue
Infinity is just becoming a space marine like mini range
the azra il is a joke,
as bad as the old one in term of proportions
but 10 time more childish
Sangarn wrote: A conscious decision to make more money yes haha
They use to have the best traditional mini sculptors ...
... now we have FW sculpt grade mini but in metal so a pain to convert/glue
Infinity is just becoming a space marine like mini range
the azra il is a joke,
as bad as the old one in term of proportions
but 10 time more childish
You are talking about the 10+ft guy that are the same size and a standerd human vs. a unit in a old style bulky power armor that meant to be huge being bigger then a standerd human. Yeah they have nothing in common, I mean who wants model that are the size the fluff says.
As of converting the new poses are so much easier (do to the boring open chest and arm out in rage fist vs close arm to chest and why are they looking at their own ass poses). And they take glue like any other metal model.
Not strictly Infinity, but this seems the best place for it
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Seems like a reasonable, if slightly dramatic, walking pose. Not the most dynamic thing ever, but fairly believable. And he's certainly gonna be walking around on the field so it's not like some of the *strike a pose* poses. I like him (Aquila), but I dunno what I could really two with TWO Aquila guard on top of a Swiss Guard... seems a bit much
ImAGeek wrote: I think they both look fantastic. Although cue the rage fist fallout.
these are ok. They're at least walking or descending from the sky. It's ok for that free hand to be totally idle in a fist.
It's the ones standing entirely still one-handing a massive gun that shouldn't have a ragefist.
Man, the panzerfaust launcher on the Aquila makes his left side look really bulky.
Why oh why does CB hate to sculpt the airborne guys with both feet on the ground? The new Tiger Soldier design is really cool looking, but they had to go and do the landing pose. I hope that when they do the Spitfire one they have him in a firing pose like the old HMG one was.
Me either, I thought those were like disposable rocket launching tubes, I didn't realize they were shoulder mounted, pretty cool. Do other models have them shoulder mounted like that? The things I miss...
Hopefully it's like... gas powered or something, I'd hate to have a combustion powered weapon right next to my face, though I guess he does have a high tech helmet..
Yeah its something I totally missed, I guess probably partially due to only having a passing interest in Pan-O after expanding Icestorm. Pretty neat little bit though.
Barzam wrote: Man, the panzerfaust launcher on the Aquila makes his left side look really bulky.
Why oh why does CB hate to sculpt the airborne guys with both feet on the ground? The new Tiger Soldier design is really cool looking, but they had to go and do the landing pose. I hope that when they do the Spitfire one they have him in a firing pose like the old HMG one was.
By the looks of it a little trimming your could have him running on the ground. if we had other angels we could see how' he is tilted from his profile. I wonder if they will do a SWC box with Hacker, Spitfire, Sniper, and Combi-Flamer? Either way the hacker should be a more "feminine" sculpt as there really is only one other decent female hacker sculpt for Yu Jing. That or get a Spec Ops and take the Spitfire from that and splice them together.
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ImAGeek wrote: I think they both look fantastic. Although cue the rage fist fallout.
I might make my Tiger holding a blade to make it less "rage" fisty.
ImAGeek wrote: I think they both look fantastic. Although cue the rage fist fallout.
I might make my Tiger holding a blade to make it less "rage" fisty.
I've always thought that was even sillier. Ragefist is justifiable if the soldier is bracing from a one-hand shooting stance. Heavy Infantry with their power armor could probably take it. However, holding a knife while doing so is just irresponsible.
At least the Bagh-Mari somewhat are justified because of their fluff. I guess some Haqqislamites too because they love their Future Scimachetars.
ImAGeek wrote: I think they both look fantastic. Although cue the rage fist fallout.
Yeah...that kind of model is not where the "ragefist" complaints come into play.
Nice try though.
With that out of the way, I will be getting that Aquila.
I wasn't saying it would be unwarranted (that's why I chose 'fallout' and not 'complaining'). My one issue with them is that their poses are almost identical, although you'll never have both in the same force so it doesn't really matter that much, and the fist is part of that. All I meant, I wasn't 'trying' anything.
Someone over on the Infinity forum pointed out that this new guy combined with the arms from an ORC Trooper out of the PanO starter will be a great way to get a MULTI Rifle Aquila Guard.
Except that they're usually damn near 100% useless in every way - all they really seem to do is generate a lot of posts complaining about how useless they are.
warboss wrote: That "preview" just reached a new low of uselessness. And people thought the squigglies were annoying...
It's not really a preview, it's a teaser. Pretty useless yeah but it's not like it's hurting anyone.
The point of a teaser is to show something but not the whole thing. That one shows nothing so is by definition pointless. The squigglies are teasers; this is not.
Pacific wrote: A rather enigmatic post on AG's FB page..
"Working.... 40mm...Infinity....what will it be?"
A few comments seem to think Maghariba, although that's obviously not possible with the base size. Something Haqq though?
The story is the colors he's working with right there. People on that FB post guessed it was the Maghariba. Didn't we get a hint that we'll see that previewed at gencon?
I'd be shocked if the Maghariba fit on a 40mm base. That thing is long and wide from the concept art. I don't know how it fits in the n3 size/profile classification thing though.
The story is the colors he's working with right there. People on that FB post guessed it was the Maghariba. Didn't we get a hint that we'll see that previewed at gencon?
When is GenCon?
Because Angel doesn't do the models until something like five to six weeks before the "official" previews go up, and the Maghriba isn't one of the models listed for May.
There is some speculation that it could be the Maghariba pilot, although AFAIK there hasn't been a pilot released on 40mm base (unless it's some kind of Bootleg-style mini diorama, some guy climbing out of an ejection podule etc.?)
Sangarn wrote: Probably Haqq REM, they are the worst ones
I think they look quite cool.. all of the Haqqislam remotes actually, especially the chicken-leg Rafiq and similar models (certainly have a distinctive, quirky look)
FicZone is 2 May-3 May-- so basically in ~2 weeks. Last year, Bostria announced N3 there, so who knows what will be coming this year. Hopefully, whoever films his presentation-- assuming he gives one-- will have fully charged their camera battery this time.
Aquila has too much of a Space Marine vibe for my tastes. But then, I don't play NCA, so whatevs.
Pacific wrote: A rather enigmatic post on AG's FB page..
"Working.... 40mm...Infinity....what will it be?"
A few comments seem to think Maghariba, although that's obviously not possible with the base size. Something Haqq though?
The story is the colors he's working with right there. People on that FB post guessed it was the Maghariba. Didn't we get a hint that we'll see that previewed at gencon?
Maghariba Guard is reportedly so big it's getting a unique silhouette. It's not fitting on a 40mm base. I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't fit a 55mm well either.
We may be seeing an early release of one of the Caliphate super soldiers. They've mentioned 2 often - one the size of Ajax, and one that's as fast as a bike but isn't a bike. Either of those could be candidates for 40mm bases.
Pacific wrote: A rather enigmatic post on AG's FB page..
"Working.... 40mm...Infinity....what will it be?"
A few comments seem to think Maghariba, although that's obviously not possible with the base size. Something Haqq though?
The story is the colors he's working with right there. People on that FB post guessed it was the Maghariba. Didn't we get a hint that we'll see that previewed at gencon?
Maghariba Guard is reportedly so big it's getting a unique silhouette. It's not fitting on a 40mm base. I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't fit a 55mm well either.
We may be seeing an early release of one of the Caliphate super soldiers. They've mentioned 2 often - one the size of Ajax, and one that's as fast as a bike but isn't a bike. Either of those could be candidates for 40mm bases.
Or, it's those Tohaa Remotes that they've already announced.
I wouldnt say it is "totes" goofy. Somewhat is as far as i would go
Maybe that is the economical way to break up the soldier's easily recognisable PA silhouette? Or maybe it provides a slight camouflage capability without having to repaint the armour when on an unexpected or extended deployment.
Sure I believe it is more rule of cool, and it works for me, but I am willing to believe there is some application for the outfit.
Vain wrote: I wouldnt say it is "totes" goofy. Somewhat is as far as i would go
Maybe that is the economical way to break up the soldier's easily recognisable PA silhouette? Or maybe it provides a slight camouflage capability without having to repaint the armour when on an unexpected or extended deployment.
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That was my thought as well, you could get mimetic or thermoptic properties in the cloaks. Plus perhaps a practical consideration - pockets!
Balieros in Appleseed has clothes because he is cybernetic (rather than someone wearing a powered suit), and so he can feel more like a human. Obviously that wouldn't apply in the case for these guys though.
Alpharius wrote: Appleseed awesomeness aside, coats on SF power armored figures are totes goofy.
The idea is silly I grant you, but I think they look cool enough that I don't really care about things like logic in this case.
Vain wrote:I wouldnt say it is "totes" goofy. Somewhat is as far as i would go
Maybe that is the economical way to break up the soldier's easily recognisable PA silhouette? Or maybe it provides a slight camouflage capability without having to repaint the armour when on an unexpected or extended deployment.
Sure I believe it is more rule of cool, and it works for me, but I am willing to believe there is some application for the outfit.
Fair points!
I just prefer my power armored male and female future soldiers to not be encumbered by coats, cloaks, capes, etc.
Vain wrote: I wouldnt say it is "totes" goofy. Somewhat is as far as i would go
Maybe that is the economical way to break up the soldier's easily recognisable PA silhouette? Or maybe it provides a slight camouflage capability without having to repaint the armour when on an unexpected or extended deployment. .
That was my thought as well, you could get mimetic or thermoptic properties in the cloaks. Plus perhaps a practical consideration - pockets!
Balieros in Appleseed has clothes because he is cybernetic (rather than someone wearing a powered suit), and so he can feel more like a human. Obviously that wouldn't apply in the case for these guys though.
Cybernetics is surely used for exoskeletons as well.
i just wouldn't be caught dead saying "totes" about anything...
i would say, however: no capes!!!
i do think the coat adds something atmospheric to the mini, giving it a sense of motion...
is it necessary???
the original Prowler, just standing there looking like a complete badass, would say no...
i don't dislike the coat, but i would not choose to paint it brown, as black is way more intimidating...
The original model had a coat. This one has a coat as well. It's not really that much of a problem. Plus, it differentiates the Aquilla Guard from the other PanO HI.
Plus, maybe the coat is what gives it BTS+3 in comparison to the Orc.
Absolutionis wrote: The original model had a coat. This one has a coat as well. It's not really that much of a problem. Plus, it differentiates the Aquilla Guard from the other PanO HI.
Plus, maybe the coat is what gives it BTS+3 in comparison to the Orc.
The new one is an improvement.
I never understood why he had the sword, and I don't care for the hilt on that thing at all.
I know Aquila Guard have shock CCW, but he's almost entirely fire support with the HMG + MSV3 profile.
Something I have always wondered with some of that background terrain, is it custom or is it all "manufactured"? I know some of it is from other companies like the crates.
cool little things like button panels, variety of doors, circuit breakers, etc would be cool scenery additions that you can just glue on to give existing terrain some more like to it.
I think they went with the cape so there would be no rage-butt comments .
I'm for capes mainly because I remember the Death of Superman comic series where d
Doomsday snags someone by their cape and pummels them to within an inch of their life. Then slams the car door on Blue Beetles head I never was a big DC comic fan, but I was all into that series with the fight scenes.
Something I have always wondered with some of that background terrain, is it custom or is it all "manufactured"? I know some of it is from other companies like the crates.
cool little things like button panels, variety of doors, circuit breakers, etc would be cool scenery additions that you can just glue on to give existing terrain some more like to it.
Making my own has been a pain.
All the background terrain is built be one of the CB staff members. His "weapon store room" is one of my favorites, that one uses a lot of spare weapons form the entire line.
I think they went with the cape so there would be no rage-butt comments .
It's 'rage buttocks', and yes that is a good reason for him to have a cape! Unlike in a lot of the other range where the armour just pushes the buttocks up so that they look far too pert and unrealistic. Really, the armour around that area needs to look more utilitarian and shouldn't be sticking out in an effort to look 'sexy', I'm glad CB realises that with this sculpt.
Balieros in Appleseed has clothes because he is cybernetic (rather than someone wearing a powered suit), and so he can feel more like a human. Obviously that wouldn't apply in the case for these guys though.
Cybernetics is surely used for exoskeletons as well.
Sorry, I meant he is a cyborg - a mix of man and machine (so his internal organs and what remains of him are within the mechanical body), rather than wearing a suit.
I think they went with the cape so there would be no rage-butt comments .
It's 'rage buttocks', and yes that is a good reason for him to have a cape! Unlike in a lot of the other range where the armour just pushes the buttocks up so that they look far too pert and unrealistic.
What, you mean that your butt doesn't also have that firm but separate look going on?
Something I have always wondered with some of that background terrain, is it custom or is it all "manufactured"? I know some of it is from other companies like the crates.
cool little things like button panels, variety of doors, circuit breakers, etc would be cool scenery additions that you can just glue on to give existing terrain some more like to it.
Well they're not EI, they're Sygmaa. Which are just traitor Tohaa. They work for the EI but they aren't EI constructs like the unidrons/skiavoros/charontid etc
Someone made a good point in that the Boarding Shotgun replaces the previous one; effectively making the new aesthetic the default for future releases.
Again... I'm wondering why we need new Galwegians? aren't the existing ones pretty solid?
These are old
But these are the last revision. These are ok
Or do they just intend to release more to reflect more profiles?
I can't imagine they'll be a new profile/unit for AF since the Caledonians are well covered already.
Maybe we are going to see a CHA revamp, like with Morats, not that I agree with their choice as Caledonia is not the one that needs it the most (IMO) but hey, if the release a 3rd Greys box I may jump right in.
There's only 3 profiles for Galwegians. While there isn't one explicitly with a shotgun of those 4, we don't need to redo the whole box for it.
Other stuff in the range needs updating before them. Like Shang-Ji, Celestial Guard, Seed Soldiers, Kazaks... there's lots of units that could be brought into a more uniform modern look.
Bolognesus wrote: Kamau would have been a better fit for a resculpt than Aquila guard as well, for example...
While I really like this Aquila guard, the Kamau is pretty awful. Then again IDK how often they're really used anymore? Seems like Aquila Guard are much more likely to be on people's lists than Kamau.
Bolognesus wrote: Kamau would have been a better fit for a resculpt than Aquila guard as well, for example...
While I really like this Aquila guard, the Kamau is pretty awful. Then again IDK how often they're really used anymore? Seems like Aquila Guard are much more likely to be on people's lists than Kamau.
Not that that necessarily means anything with CB, like how they didn't make a chain rifle Daturazi even though he's the one most commonly used.
Bladerunner2019 wrote: There's only 3 profiles for Galwegians. While there isn't one explicitly with a shotgun of those 4, we don't need to redo the whole box for it.
Other stuff in the range needs updating before them. Like Shang-Ji, Celestial Guard, Seed Soldiers, Kazaks... there's lots of units that could be brought into a more uniform modern look.
There are alt arms with a shotgun in the box already.
I wanted a real tiger mask, like the art. I hope all the complainers are happy
Bladerunner2019 wrote: There's only 3 profiles for Galwegians. While there isn't one explicitly with a shotgun of those 4, we don't need to redo the whole box for it.
Other stuff in the range needs updating before them. Like Shang-Ji, Celestial Guard, Seed Soldiers, Kazaks... there's lots of units that could be brought into a more uniform modern look.
There are alt arms with a shotgun in the box already.
I wanted a real tiger mask, like the art. I hope all the complainers are happy
I think the mask is the same as the art, just not painted as tigery as the art was.
Right now CB is engaged in expanding/resculpting specific Sectorials.
Neoterra is their focus for PanOceania. Kamau are not part of Neoterra, hence don't expect to see Kamau until shortly before/some time after "Acheron Falls".
Because Kamau are going to be part of the Varuna Sectorial, assuming it has not been cut out.
I know. Though I can't help but feel the Aquila was not enough of an improvement (neither a badly sculpted original nor an actually believable pose now) to warrant a release slot. Heck, a Bolt with drop bear launcher (other than the limited model) would have been better.
Hell, the Auxilia desperately need an update - why not those?
**grumbles**
Bolognesus wrote: I know. Though I can't help but feel the Aquila was not enough of an improvement (neither a badly sculpted original nor an actually believable pose now) to warrant a release slot. Heck, a Bolt with drop bear launcher (other than the limited model) would have been better.
The Drop Bear isn't launched. It's thrown. And it doesn't need anything beyond a cardboard marker.
Hell, the Auxilia desperately need an update - why not those?
**grumbles**
There's a physical model for the drop bear with the limited bolt model. A general release for that would be good. My bad on the launcher, sorry.
I'm sure they will release an Auxilia box; doesn't make this release less pointless. Feth, i'd almost prefer they just forfeit the slot to a model for a faction that actually needs it...
This thread got forgotten into page 2? Shame! We should reignite conversations about sexualized miniatures or something to get the conversation going again! Even the official forums are stuck talking about some stripper in a videogame.
I think a fair number of players were disappointed that the N3 book did not pull in Paradiso & the Human Sphere books to produce an all in one (even if they only put in the rules section from the latter two),
It's all well and good that the rules are on line but a lot of us like print rule books and when you then have to think about buying 3 to get the full game your into GW territory of rules + codex + codex etc
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I think a fair number of players were disappointed that the N3 book did not pull in Paradiso & the Human Sphere books to produce an all in one (even if they only put in the rules section from the latter two),
It's all well and good that the rules are on line but a lot of us like print rule books and when you then have to think about buying 3 to get the full game your into GW territory of rules + codex + codex etc
They would make a lot of money of a rules only book with all three compiled and organized.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: I think a fair number of players were disappointed that the N3 book did not pull in Paradiso & the Human Sphere books to produce an all in one (even if they only put in the rules section from the latter two),
It's all well and good that the rules are on line but a lot of us like print rule books and when you then have to think about buying 3 to get the full game your into GW territory of rules + codex + codex etc
Have to admit still a bit dissapointed about that myself.
Now to check if 
It's a nice model but I personally prefer the alternate chopper sculpts. It'll be good though for folks who want variety for a different faction.
, otherwise awesome.
Dunno, maybe it's just the pose.
The Akalis Spitfire though is a definite. Now, about a 
I use the Cosplay Bolt as a Bagh-Mari proxy. It looks hilarious next to the dainty Bagh Mari sniper.
