Nurgle has stupid smiles. Theres other ways to represent Nurgle, but the smiles are a good one.
Not everything needs to appeal to everyone. Like Kharadron Overlords, some people hate them, others love them. This kind of polarizing design just wants to catch the people that loves them.
Davor wrote: What is with GW and their stupid smiles? I hated a lot of Age of Sigmar pictures because of the beasts with stupid smiles, now they are coming to 40K minis now? Ack. Makes me not want to buy this mini now. :(
Nurgle is mostly a cheerful, industrious god - often his followers and Daemons are too!
Davor wrote: What is with GW and their stupid smiles? I hated a lot of Age of Sigmar pictures because of the beasts with stupid smiles, now they are coming to 40K minis now? Ack. Makes me not want to buy this mini now. :(
You mean for the Nurgle stuff?
Nurgle stuff is joyous and loves to spread their plagues and contagions. Bad things happen to sad Nurgle stuff. Plague Drones, for example, are Beasts of Nurgle that are bitter because nobody wants to play with them.
There's another explanation as well in that some biological/chemical agents can cause your facial muscles to constrict and cause a 'smile' ala the Joker gas from Batman.
Davor wrote: What is with GW and their stupid smiles? I hated a lot of Age of Sigmar pictures because of the beasts with stupid smiles, now they are coming to 40K minis now? Ack. Makes me not want to buy this mini now. :(
It's a breath of fresh air in all this grimdark stuff. Every minute, some race is about to we wiped out, or some chapter is about to die to their last man, or someone goes to speak to the emperor, or someone blows up Cadia. Then we have a nurgling going "I'm faaaabulous!". Love it!
Actually if you go back far enough Nurgle wasn't actually all about joyous grinning gribblies...but it's obviously the route they've chosen to embrace wholeheartedly. The aesthetic itself completely stopped me dead in my tracks when I was about to construct a Deathguard army.
It's a conscious design decision - I think it's pants, but I voted with my dollars, so no big deal.
Elbows wrote: Actually if you go back far enough Nurgle wasn't actually all about joyous grinning gribblies...but it's obviously the route they've chosen to embrace wholeheartedly. The aesthetic itself completely stopped me dead in my tracks when I was about to construct a Deathguard army.
It's a conscious design decision - I think it's pants, but I voted with my dollars, so no big deal.
Think of it as the Joker's smile. Not a happy pony smile.
If you're a regular guardsman and you have this walking death pox on legs, covered in flies and stinking like a corpse, smiling, then that's pretty damn scary.
I like the face. That isn't the face some someone genuinely happy, that's the face of someone who doesn't know the difference between happiness and misery anymore.
The Hauler is fantastic and I want three. Much better than I expected from the other pics in the teaser vids. It's his gribbly mouth.
The Termis are absolute pants, I like how all four share a marking/insignia, but the mass of tentacles, horns and badly done smoke isn't exciting me. I have enough termis as is, anyway.
I'll probably wind up with Felthius. The figures look good. I'm just a little disappointed that I have to convert up some basic guys to complete my Easy Build squad of Plague Marines. I was hoping that this set would provide the thred I nedded. Oh well.
As I understand it, when you decay your tendons or muscles dry out & therefore shrink. In the face this makes you 'smile' giving you a rictus grin. Maybe this is also where it comes from?
bubber wrote: As I understand it, when you decay your tendons or muscles dry out & therefore shrink. In the face this makes you 'smile' giving you a rictus grin. Maybe this is also where it comes from?
Should be a very simple headswap from the blight lord / deathshroud kit - at least that's what I'm planning on doing.
Can use him either as a Lord of Contagion (even Typhus!) or as a Deathshroud Champion - again, that's what I plan doing! he looks suitably awesome to be leading Mortarion's body guard.
It's great that a single box of blightlords and this EZ build box will give you 8 Blightlords
4 bubotic axes
2 heavy weapons - can set up a Reaper Autocannon and Plague spewer and change them out in between games no longer having to rely on magnets etc
1 Flail
remaining with swords.
Removing one of the heavy weapons gives a nice nurgly number of 7 - clearly a sign by Papa Nurgle
Im just gonna buy 2 sets of ezy and add 1 spare lord of contagion and have 3 lord of C/deathshroud and 4 termies and 2 heavy options(kitbashing 1 to a reaper!). I didnt buy any shroud or terms because my lists never used any.
Please keep in Mind that the Lord Bases should be bigger then the normal Blightlord Bases...i got two Lords of Contagion in the mail that i want to do Deathshroud with them but now that i own 3 Deathshroud i see that they are using the normal Terminator bases but the Lords and Typhus using a bigger One...
And in the Pics with the Easy to Build i only see one size of Bases...so do i need to change all my Lord Bases to a smaller One like in the new Kits ?
If it's not too much trouble, you should. Especially for melee units with low model count, base size makes a huge difference when trying to tie up multiple units.
There is no specific base for a unit in 40kGW's rule of thumb is 'Use the base the model was supplied with'. And that you can change the bases if you feel others would be a better, more fitting choice. The Lord of Contagion in DI comes on a 50mm base. DG Terminators (and the Blightspawn if I'm not mistaken) are on 40mm. I will put all my DG characters in Terminator amour on 50mm, and Deathshrouds and Blightlords on 40. 50mm for characters allows for more interesting base scenery. I will use 50mm for my old Typhus as well. But none of this is mandatory
Definitely looking forward to all these new Deathguard models.
So, are there really no extra rules for lord Fethius? I assumed his 'enthusiasm' over his wiffleball full-o-slime meant he was some sort of special dude. Either way, he's great, but I wish he came with a 50mm base like the DIloC.
Does anyone know if they still update the digital codices when new stuff comes out? They used to, when you'd buy a digital codex, but not sure if that is still a thing. Would love to not have to worry about having to cross reference points between the codex and the new chapter approved book every time.
So, are there really no extra rules for lord Fethius? I assumed his 'enthusiasm' over his wiffleball full-o-slime meant he was some sort of special dude. Either way, he's great, but I wish he came with a 50mm base like the DIloC.
I think is a copyright friendly way to introduce the model, like with the doc.
For the wiffleball, I think is in the Nurgle's Gift rule. He waves it, and people get Space Ebola in form of Mortal Wounds.
So, are there really no extra rules for lord Fethius? I assumed his 'enthusiasm' over his wiffleball full-o-slime meant he was some sort of special dude. Either way, he's great, but I wish he came with a 50mm base like the DIloC.
I think is a copyright friendly way to introduce the model, like with the doc.
For the wiffleball, I think is in the Nurgle's Gift rule. He waves it, and people get Space Ebola in form of Mortal Wounds.
Yea, I was hoping we would get some rules for a 3 man unit of Blight Lords.... Doesent seem to be the case. Plague Brethren are a wierd option.... I should have taken them for my 500 pt tourny that required at least 1 troops choice.
It could be a generic item that can represent any random artifact you chose to give him. Or just call it a fancy blight grenade. OR he's calling out the foe to a game of foot[fungus]ball.
So, are there really no extra rules for lord Fethius? I assumed his 'enthusiasm' over his wiffleball full-o-slime meant he was some sort of special dude. Either way, he's great, but I wish he came with a 50mm base like the DIloC.
I think is a copyright friendly way to introduce the model, like with the doc. For the wiffleball, I think is in the Nurgle's Gift rule. He waves it, and people get Space Ebola in form of Mortal Wounds.
Yea, I was hoping we would get some rules for a 3 man unit of Blight Lords.... Doesent seem to be the case. Plague Brethren are a wierd option.... I should have taken them for my 500 pt tourny that required at least 1 troops choice.
Aren't they kinda pointless (as a unit, I mean)? The only option that comes in my mind is in addition to 1-2 characters + a 5-men MSU unit in a 10 slot transport. But in that case, single melta is doing nothing.
Dude over on war of sigmar said that there are indidly new nurgle models coming.
He said that past "leaks" were surprisingly accurate, but still missed quite a bit of stuff.
If communication on Disqus (WoS comments) is true we could see the new Daemon models sooner than later - like January/February. Maybe coinciding with the new Daemon Codex or shortly after. Fingers-crossed
Warhams-77 wrote: If communication on Disqus (WoS comments) is true we could see the new Daemon models sooner than later - like January/February. Maybe coinciding with the new Daemon Codex or shortly after. Fingers-crossed
Malign Portents is coming/starting in January too for AoS it seems, so we might see something there with the long-sought "Nurgle Rotbringers" book finally materializing for AoS
Warhams-77 wrote: If communication on Disqus (WoS comments) is true we could see the new Daemon models sooner than later - like January/February. Maybe coinciding with the new Daemon Codex or shortly after. Fingers-crossed
I wish it was easier to sort Disqus. I can never find rumors on that site. Can you be a bit more specific about what is being said there?
Warhams-77 wrote: If communication on Disqus (WoS comments) is true we could see the new Daemon models sooner than later - like January/February. Maybe coinciding with the new Daemon Codex or shortly after. Fingers-crossed
I wish it was easier to sort Disqus. I can never find rumors on that site. Can you be a bit more specific about what is being said there?
Sorry for my late response, Kendo
There was the occassioal post in the WoS rumor section mentioning a sighting of the book/photos etc in the last weeks. Unlike other cases there isn't much to quote/with specific information. I would like to refer you to these posts
There was also a Natfka rumor from someone who said he had seen the back of the new Deamon Codex. I did not pay much attention to this but later we could see the printed book in a cabinet at the 40k open day in a Necromunda related post on miniwars.eu. In the cabinet the back was hidden but maybe someone was indeed allowed a look at its cover and the photo or even inside. All these incidents lead me to the impression there is some substance to this and the new Nurgle Daemons aren't that far away. My current bet is end of January or sometime in February.
According to WD their release date is Dec 23rd, with preorder on the 16th. They are not marketed or mentioned elsewhere to be a limited release. Short answer: No
Well then.
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Yup.
Beasts. Seeing as how it looks strongly of the codex art, I'd imagine all those new "nurgle" creatures in the artwork are being released, if the comments on war of sigmar are to be believed.
Happy day, RIP wallet.
Neronoxx wrote: Well then.
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Yup.
Beasts. Seeing as how it looks strongly of the codex art, I'd imagine all those new "nurgle" creatures in the artwork are being released, if the comments on war of sigmar are to be believed.
Happy day, RIP wallet.
They are going to back to how they use to look then...
yeah, looks like they're going with a happy medium between the typical nurglings/great unclean one style/visual cues, and the good old tentacle-headed slug-puppy beast of nurgle...I'm fine with this
...one thing's for sure, pretty much anything they could've come up with would be far better than the current tired old model ...I'd sooner glue a mouldy old sock to a 60mm base and use that instead...
It's hard to tell what is really going on with that model, but it looks cool. But I hope they do a proper reveal soon. I have a weakness for nurgle stuff...but i'm kind of done with the DG, if they have stuff in store that is beast/daemon/ or AoS themed i'd be into it.
That is a way better tease than the rumor engines though, a lot of those are vague and made moreso by the lack of color.
here's a (slightly) less potato-vision pic...you can see some details a little better...looks like it's got one eye, and a big happy mouth with a big slobbery tongue...like it's excitedly chasing something...which is pretty spot-on in my opinion ...really looking forward to the proper reveal so I can get a real good look at it
Oi, that sharper pic looks very promising. The Blanche beasts looks cooler, though.
If we see those beasts, the weird multi-legged triceratops from that one piece of art and *especially* those floor-crawling things from other pieces of Death Guard artwork, oh my.
As I have mentioned previously, I was sent a snapchat with the pics.
Fun fact, the original CAD for the model was eventually used to make the Glotkin. All four gods had updated CAD sculpts, plus a new dragon that ended up being the mount for a certain chief protagonist.
You can choose to ignore this
I wouldn't ignore this... Given that I called the beast model, and when it comes end of Jan ahead of the rotbringer book in feb.
I'm not a rumour monger, but I do love a told you so
As I have mentioned previously, I was sent a snapchat with the pics.
Fun fact, the original CAD for the model was eventually used to make the Glotkin. All four gods had updated CAD sculpts, plus a new dragon that ended up being the mount for a certain chief protagonist.
You can choose to ignore this
I wouldn't ignore this... Given that I called the beast model, and when it comes end of Jan ahead of the rotbringer book in feb.
I'm not a rumour monger, but I do love a told you so
I have no doubt that there will be a new Beast and GUO model in January.
Really interested to see what they do with the Daemons codex next month. At the moment, the biggest issue with the army is delivery with the lack of DS. Hoping for a similar stratagem to elder where you can spend CP to nominate units to deploy from the warp.
I'm just a player and I could tell you there's new beasts and a guo this coming release, almost certainly more than that even. That horticulous buffs beasts was pretty much all the confirmation we needed. I also recall the info about Glottkin being a repurposed GUO sculpt circulating when they actually came out, so that tidbit is years old.
Binabik15 wrote: Oi, that sharper pic looks very promising. The Blanche beasts looks cooler, though.
If we see those beasts, the weird multi-legged triceratops from that one piece of art and *especially* those floor-crawling things from other pieces of Death Guard artwork, oh my.
yeah, it's decent, but it looks way too much like a fat(ter) plaguebearer. The blanche one is much better
Binabik15 wrote: Oi, that sharper pic looks very promising. The Blanche beasts looks cooler, though.
If we see those beasts, the weird multi-legged triceratops from that one piece of art and *especially* those floor-crawling things from other pieces of Death Guard artwork, oh my.
yeah, it's decent, but it looks way too much like a fat(ter) plaguebearer. The blanche one is much better
I think you need to go look at some plaguebearers again dude...I don't think they look how you think they look
mikesorensonxx wrote: For anyone that has seen Lord Fethius instruction book, can you field the 3 terminators that come with him as a unit or do you need minimum 5 still?
If they're anything like the Plague Brethren, you'll be able to field 'em as their own unit.
An observation after working a bit with the Plague Marines box. For those, like me, that are concerned with too many deformed spikes, too long, and weird proportions, the box marines are IMHO better sculpted and proportioned. Also, the helmets and pauldron choices allow for a better "stylistic" choice. Thematic too - like "this squad is all rebreathers", to say. Still a bloody ripoff for 7 but hey. GW.
Kaiyanwang wrote: An observation after working a bit with the Plague Marines box.
For those, like me, that are concerned with too many deformed spikes, too long, and weird proportions, the box marines are IMHO better sculpted and proportioned.
Also, the helmets and pauldron choices allow for a better "stylistic" choice. Thematic too - like "this squad is all rebreathers", to say.
Still a bloody ripoff for 7 but hey. GW.
Yeah, the kit isnt as customizable as i would have liked, but it is easily one of my favorite kits. Just wish there was a benefit to running them in units of 7, or the box cost a bit extra and came with 3 more.
I'm pretty sure that their intention was to get people to buy the easy to build marines as well - which I probably will, since you get a plasma champion and a blight launcher marine from the box of three, and both are decent options.
That little nurgling thing probably goes on the base of the new beast. I definitely like flavorful little character bits like that, it's one of the things non nurgle kits tend to be lacking in.
Could be for the Beast kit, but I like the idea of it coming with a herald on a plague drone. The nurglings like to mimic other demons/warriors, so I could see that too.
Possibly though, its for a new unit of flying nurglings! That would be amazing, In any case, I Love it!
I have always been disappointed heralds cant take plague drone mounts so I would be all over that, even at what would likely be a $40 price tag. That would simply be a great way to round out nurgle daemon 'small character' options. Since Epi is a special character Nurgle has no analogy to heralds on juggernauts, slaanesh chariots, or tzeentch discs/chariots.
I do thematic Nurglings for my Nurgle stuff like adding insect wings, stinger and a tiny scythe for a Nurgling hangig out with a Raptor champ who is half wasp or an axe guy for my executioner hero. This lil guy will fit right in.
skullking wrote: Could be for the Beast kit, but I like the idea of it coming with a herald on a plague drone. The nurglings like to mimic other demons/warriors, so I could see that too.
Possibly though, its for a new unit of flying nurglings! That would be amazing, In any case, I Love it!
A few people commented on it being tied to "Beasts of Nurgle" and got likes from the Warhammer Community FB page. Make of it what you will.
The problem is that we've seen the Beast of Nurgle, and even though it's next to impossible to see details, it's clear enough that there really isn't much room on the base for anything else, let alone something the size of the Nurgling in the Tip of the Day video.
Unless the new Beast kit creates more than one miniature, and what we've seen is just one assembly, I don't believe that's the source of the Nurgling. The fact he's riding a fly and takes up that much space definitely suggests that he belongs to something raised up from the base, hence the Herald on a Plague Drone, or something as of yet unmentioned
hmm...I was just wondering if that nurgling might come with a new great unclean one - because the GW one could really use an update, like the lord of change and the bloodthirster got...
...but I'm not sure, because they've got the nurgling glued to what looks like a 60mm base, which wouldn't be nearly big enough for a new great unclean one...
...so yeah, I'm gonna have to put my money down on some kinda new herald or something too
Tim the Biovore wrote: The problem is that we've seen the Beast of Nurgle, and even though it's next to impossible to see details, it's clear enough that there really isn't much room on the base for anything else, let alone something the size of the Nurgling in the Tip of the Day video.
Unless the new Beast kit creates more than one miniature, and what we've seen is just one assembly, I don't believe that's the source of the Nurgling. The fact he's riding a fly and takes up that much space definitely suggests that he belongs to something raised up from the base, hence the Herald on a Plague Drone, or something as of yet unmentioned
I'm aware we've seen the Beast of Nurgle.
I'm also aware that the Beast of Nurgle is on a fairly good sized base and the Nurgling was pretty far foward of the base while the Beast was centered.
For reference, this is the Beast of Nurgle. The Nurgling on Fly could pretty readily fit on that base since he's built low to the ground.
Tim the Biovore wrote: The problem is that we've seen the Beast of Nurgle, and even though it's next to impossible to see details, it's clear enough that there really isn't much room on the base for anything else, let alone something the size of the Nurgling in the Tip of the Day video.
Unless the new Beast kit creates more than one miniature, and what we've seen is just one assembly, I don't believe that's the source of the Nurgling. The fact he's riding a fly and takes up that much space definitely suggests that he belongs to something raised up from the base, hence the Herald on a Plague Drone, or something as of yet unmentioned
I'm aware we've seen the Beast of Nurgle.
I'm also aware that the Beast of Nurgle is on a fairly good sized base and the Nurgling was pretty far foward of the base while the Beast was centered.
For reference, this is the Beast of Nurgle.
The Nurgling on Fly could pretty readily fit on that base since he's built low to the ground.
It still strikes me as odd that they'd create a kit with a basing extra that then blocks a fair amount of view to a largely landlocked miniature. And why the fly? Why not a slug-like Nurgling akin to the one in the Easy to Build Tainted Cohort box? The fly neither complements the main miniature itself, nor does it appear on the base of the miniature in the preview.
I'm just really not buying that the two previews we've seen so far are directly related. We know there's more than one kit on the way, which is what the Warhammer TV comment backs up, and their interactions with other comments regarding the Beast are just acknowledgements that said unit is in the pipeline. Why tease the same kit when the Disciples of Tzeentch release pattern indicates that there will be so much more?
It still strikes me as odd that they'd create a kit with a basing extra that then blocks a fair amount of view to a largely landlocked miniature. And why the fly? Why not a slug-like Nurgling akin to the one in the Easy to Build Tainted Cohort box? The fly neither complements the main miniature itself, nor does it appear on the base of the miniature in the preview.
You know that Blight Drones are Beasts of Nurgle that "become bitter" from nobody playing with them, yeah?
It'd be a great little fluff nod to do.
If you look at the video for the Nurgling on the Fly, he's taking up less space than you seem to be thinking.
I'm just really not buying that the two previews we've seen so far are directly related. We know there's more than one kit on the way, which is what the Warhammer TV comment backs up, and their interactions with other comments regarding the Beast are just acknowledgements that said unit is in the pipeline. Why tease the same kit when the Disciples of Tzeentch release pattern indicates that there will be so much more?
I can tell you right now that the comments they've picked/liked were those that more or less suggested this was a part of the Beast of Nurgle kit.
Warhammer TV seem to be indicating it's not from the Beast kit, but I'd imagine a mounted Herald is likely on it's way soon too
On the opposite, all of what Warhammer TV was doing suggested it is from a Beast kit.
Comments like "He's missing his Beast of Nurgle!" were replied to with "No, he's not..." or variations thereof.
No to me that implies he’s missing something else, not a beast of Nurgle.
I'm not going to go through and pull every single comment that was replied to.
Basically, they all jibed to this kind of thing where the implication was that No--he's not missing his Beast of Nurgle because like the Gyrinx last year, this is being put forward as a preview.
It's totally possible that there is something else coming that this is a part of but I can't think of any Nurgle heroes or anything that would have such a thing. Not when they're on a 60mm base(which the Beast of Nurgle was in the MWG photo).
Seems our little friend is from a Blightking on a Rot Fly
So, confirmed thus far, we have
- the Blight Tree
- two Plaguebearer-type characters (one of them likely a Herald?)
- a mounted Blightking unit
- the new Great Unclean One (crikey, he looked good)
- and of course the Beasts of Nurgle
Looks like a lot of these will be used for AoS? Was kinda expecting more focus on 40k with the upcoming CD release but I'll get some of those beasts if the rules will be good.
Seems our little friend is from a Blightking on a Rot Fly
So, confirmed thus far, we have
- the Blight Tree
- two Plaguebearer-type characters (one of them likely a Herald?)
- a mounted Blightking unit
- the new Great Unclean One (crikey, he looked good)
- and of course the Beasts of Nurgle
Greed wrote: Looks like a lot of these will be used for AoS? Was kinda expecting more focus on 40k with the upcoming CD release but I'll get some of those beasts if the rules will be good.
All non-special character nurgle demons are both and most of the stuff 40k players don't recognize has been out for a long time, though plenty of AoS specific releases to help kick off malign portents which is nice.
So, confirmed thus far, we have
- the Blight Tree
- two Plaguebearer-type characters (one of them likely a Herald?)
- a mounted Blightking unit
- the new Great Unclean One (crikey, he looked good)
- and of course the Beasts of Nurgle
Does anyone believe one day GW will release a box with the 4 major demons at a discount?
I could see getting a Great Unclean One for some scenario purposes - looks pretty good (don't care for the direction most of the Nurgle stuff is going at the moment).
As I have mentioned previously, I was sent a snapchat with the pics.
Fun fact, the original CAD for the model was eventually used to make the Glotkin. All four gods had updated CAD sculpts, plus a new dragon that ended up being the mount for a certain chief protagonist.
You can choose to ignore this
I wouldn't ignore this... Given that I called the beast model, and when it comes end of Jan ahead of the rotbringer book in feb.
I'm not a rumour monger, but I do love a told you so
Still on nurgle? Truly he has blessed this year with his putrid grin because the nurgle wave and teaser just don’t end. If I was already fed up with how long it’s taking to get out now I’m just accepting it will never end.
I’m not dissing the mini’s or their fans. Heck I love the tree. It’s simple how long they teased it out is too much. It’s the sombra effect all over again where the teasing was so long it pulls some of the fun out from under the rug.
Gamgee wrote: Still on nurgle? Truly he has blessed this year with his putrid grin because the nurgle wave and teaser just don’t end. If I was already fed up with how long it’s taking to get out now I’m just accepting it will never end.
I’m not dissing the mini’s or their fans. Heck I love the tree. It’s simple how long they teased it out is too much. It’s the sombra effect all over again where the teasing was so long it pulls some of the fun out from under the rug.
They’ve hardly teased these, this is the first time we’ve seen them. They teased DG ages before it was released but that’s all out now.
Gamgee wrote: Still on nurgle? Truly he has blessed this year with his putrid grin because the nurgle wave and teaser just don’t end. If I was already fed up with how long it’s taking to get out now I’m just accepting it will never end.
"The Nurgle wave" that just got teased today is Rotbringers for Age of Sigmar.
Which we've had no teasers on beyond rumormongers saying they're coming.
I’m not dissing the mini’s or their fans. Heck I love the tree. It’s simple how long they teased it out is too much. It’s the sombra effect all over again where the teasing was so long it pulls some of the fun out from under the rug.
I don't think you understand what "the Sombra Efffect" was...they set up a massive campaign requiring players to do things and having time/date gated items that we couldn't control. And when those criteria were met...nothing happened.
Right but rumor folks were chattering about nurgle way earlier I. The year like near the beginning basically. That’s why it feels like it hasn’t endedall year. Then little teases here and there small releases ugh given me one big release wave.
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Let’s be honest it’s probably still not over either with a codex on the way and who knows what else.
Gamgee wrote: Right but rumor folks were chattering about nurgle way earlier I. The year like near the beginning basically. That’s why it feels like it hasn’t endedall year. Then little teases here and there small releases ugh given me one big release wave.
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Let’s be honest it’s probably still not over either with a codex on the way and who knows what else.
Rumour people chattering about stuff has nothing to do with Games Workshop. This stuff hasn’t been teased at all. And yeah, there’s codex chaos daemons, and presumably an AoS Nurgle battletome.
Gamgee wrote: Still on nurgle? Truly he has blessed this year with his putrid grin because the nurgle wave and teaser just don’t end. If I was already fed up with how long it’s taking to get out now I’m just accepting it will never end.
I’m not dissing the mini’s or their fans. Heck I love the tree. It’s simple how long they teased it out is too much. It’s the sombra effect all over again where the teasing was so long it pulls some of the fun out from under the rug.
Ai, brace yourself for 2018, because there are rumours that Khorne 40K (World Eaters) will get the same treatment as Deathguard / Nurgle and who knows maybe again some AoS Khorne too. ;-)
Gamgee wrote: Still on nurgle? Truly he has blessed this year with his putrid grin because the nurgle wave and teaser just don’t end. If I was already fed up with how long it’s taking to get out now I’m just accepting it will never end.
I’m not dissing the mini’s or their fans. Heck I love the tree. It’s simple how long they teased it out is too much. It’s the sombra effect all over again where the teasing was so long it pulls some of the fun out from under the rug.
Ai, brace yourself for 2018, because there are rumours that Khorne 40K (World Eaters) will get the same treatment as Deathguard / Nurgle and who knows maybe again some AoS Khorne too. ;-)
That’s good. Hopefully they release it quickly and all at once. Even if they teased out a Tau release I would be just as annoyed at how long it’s taking.
Wow! That was a great video! So fun, and some great sneak peeks!
I’m loving the new GUO, I can’t wait to see what his alt kit builds are.im hoping at least one is Kugath (sp?) the GUO special character on the giant palanquin from the old demon codex, similar to how fate weaver was the alt for the LoC kit. But I’d also be fine with the GUO set being like the blood thirster kit, with 3 alt versions with different abilities. Then make kugath a separate kit, like skarbrand.
I didn’t realize those were special plaguebearers, I wonder if they’ll all be one kit, or separate models.
I thought the blight tree looked like it had legs, I’m guessing it’s some kind of monster (it has a giant mouth & 3 eyes)?
Can anyone tell if the beast kits are different builds? There’s 6 of them there.
And blightkings on drones, that’s pretty amazing!
Very much looking forward to these releases! Gotta pay off all my Christmas debt first though!
So, confirmed thus far, we have
- the Blight Tree
- two Plaguebearer-type characters (one of them likely a Herald?)
- a mounted Blightking unit
- the new Great Unclean One (crikey, he looked good)
- and of course the Beasts of Nurgle
Does anyone believe one day GW will release a box with the 4 major demons at a discount?
More cash flowing out of my account
Nah, that would require them to release a Slaanesh model in the first place. You don't seriously believe that's going to happen?
Kanluwen wrote:
Which we've had no teasers on beyond rumormongers saying they're coming.
ImAGeek wrote:
This stuff hasn’t been teased at all.
Well, actually...
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Well, actually...those aren't really "teasers". Teasers are part of an interlinked marketing campaign to build up hype and interest by gradually releasing more information about an item.
The Rumor Engine is just like what Corvus Belli does with their "Sniper Shots" for Infinity. It's a random shot of a random part with no context or follow-up. Would you have suspected that these came from Nurgle items? Nothing from the Rumor Engines showcasing those suggested they were related to Nurgle releases or anything of that nature.
It was just a picture of a feather and a hive.
I was here for the discussion of all rumor pics and nurgle was the most common guess for the tree teaser. Iirc only one person gusssed the feather was nurgle related though.
skullking wrote: Wow! That was a great video! So fun, and some great sneak peeks!
I’m loving the new GUO, I can’t wait to see what his alt kit builds are.im hoping at least one is Kugath (sp?) the GUO special character on the giant palanquin from the old demon codex, similar to how fate weaver was the alt for the LoC kit. But I’d also be fine with the GUO set being like the blood thirster kit, with 3 alt versions with different abilities. Then make kugath a separate kit, like skarbrand.
I didn’t realize those were special plaguebearers, I wonder if they’ll all be one kit, or separate models.
I thought the blight tree looked like it had legs, I’m guessing it’s some kind of monster (it has a giant mouth & 3 eyes)?
Can anyone tell if the beast kits are different builds? There’s 6 of them there.
And blightkings on drones, that’s pretty amazing!
Very much looking forward to these releases! Gotta pay off all my Christmas debt first though!
Great work GW!
2 of the Plaguebearers are special. I’m guessing hero models.
Beasts have different head/hair and belly options but the poses are the same.
Beautiful. I love all the new models but again with the questionable paint schemes? The Great Unclean One looks amazing, can't wait to see what his other weapon and head options are. The Blight-king cavalry looks good and comes as no surprise since the other three goods already had mortal riding daemonic mounts. Also fly riding nurglings. The new beasts look aces, and seem to have allot of variation as well. Those two Plague Bearer characters are excellent. One looks like a Tallyman; perhaps a replacement for Epidermis? The other look like some sort of musician playing a rotten Haggis/Bagpipe thing? Wow Nurgle got allot more than expected. Hopefully, these won't be the only Daemons released with the book. But I'm sure it'll take GW at least a month to release just the Nurgle models. Slaanesh, someday....someday.
Nightlord1987 wrote: Pleasantly putrid! Now what the heck am I gonna do with my Lesser Unclean One now?
Poor guy looks like a greater Nurgling on the table.
yeah I've got one of those "lesser unclean ones" too...meh, could probably work as a daemon prince of nurgle?...or, actually, he'd probably fit in pretty well with those new beasts...but ultimately, he's still an official GW great unclean one model, so you should technically still be able to use him as such - he'll just look a bit runty from now on
Im wondering if the beasts are easy build, given the similar posing. At the same time multiple options suggests a full kit. Them and the GUO will obviously be in 40k too, the other stuff is more a maybe. The cavalry are the only thing thats apparent as being AoS-only.
I like the idea of tähe Nurgle tree. Sorta like Cassius and Wormwood from Hordes. I wanted to build the duo for my AoS Nurglers, maybe there'll actually rules that kinda works like them.
I hope the Triceratops things and the floor crawlers from the codex artwork show up, too. The GUO looks like a worse version of the FW one from this perspective...I hope he will be more flexible in posing/have a better head/a scythe.
Nightlord1987 wrote: Pleasantly putrid! Now what the heck am I gonna do with my Lesser Unclean One now?
Poor guy looks like a greater Nurgling on the table.
yeah I've got one of those "lesser unclean ones" too...meh, could probably work as a daemon prince of nurgle?...or, actually, he'd probably fit in pretty well with those new beasts...but ultimately, he's still an official GW great unclean one model, so you should technically still be able to use him as such - he'll just look a bit runty from now on
Just sized up all my Daemon prince models with the GUO, and he is the shortest of the bunch, I think with some Plague drone wings it might make a good Daemon Prince. Maybe build a pananquin and make a Kuugath? Hes just a monsterous Nurgling after all!
Yeah the nurgle tree is great. I want to,get it for terrain and do,some converting on it. Weirdly enough of all the nurgle models it’s the one I,like the most because of how weird it looks compared to the usual nurgle style. Corrupted nurgle tree faction when?
I wonder if the tree thing will have some cool rules e.g. you can buy it like a fortification or there is a rule before the game that they spring up owing to some pre battle infection
mrhappyface wrote: Do what are we predicting as the size of the new GUO Vs the FW one? Could we see the FWGUO getting an update if the new GW one is the same size?
going off the other latest DP's i'm gonna go with it at least being the same size if not bigger than the FW one
Hmm. Looks like one of those Plague Bearers is a herald. He has some kind of distended mouth that wraps around his shoulder, ending in a "speaker." The other one is playing bagpipes and appears to be a jester.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
I doubt all of the models being released were shown in that video, a plastic Epidemius could well be coming. And those two Plaguebearers are almost certainly new characters and not just alternate sculpts for Musicians/Standard Bearers.
My first impressions for the plague Bearers is they are a special character unit, like the Tallyman or Blightbringer for Death Guard. The crier and the bagpipes probably do something...
Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...
I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.
It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.
I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.
Erren wrote: I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.
It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.
As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.
I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.
I personally think that it might be those items are being held back for a future release for 40k in the form of a campaign book or as the first "proof" of how they can add new units without needing to add a new book by making the rules within the box and points available online(like they did with the Primaris for the non-Codex Marine books at launch).
Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...
I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.
It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.
I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.
Erren wrote: I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.
It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.
As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.
The Changeling wasn't part of the initial Disciples of Tzeentch teaser, either. I wouldn't rule out an updated Epidemius just yet. We still have 6 more days of Nurgle! As far as Pestigors go, I kind of hope they don't announce them with this initial release. This has more to do with how the god-specific armies work in AoS than 40k, but Tzeentch Arcanites rely heavily on Tzaangors, and I want each god's follower army to feel unique. I'd rather they hold Khorngors and Pestigors for a later date.
I don't like the color scheme either, which happens to me a lot with 'Eavy Metal these days, but the normal build that is reminiscent of both the old Great Unclean One and the Forgeworld one is pretty good. First of the new Greater Daemons I might actually buy.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.
I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.
I personally think that it might be those items are being held back for a future release for 40k in the form of a campaign book or as the first "proof" of how they can add new units without needing to add a new book by making the rules within the box and points available online(like they did with the Primaris for the non-Codex Marine books at launch).
Probably, if they come at all. They may also compile new units' rules in Chapter Approved. That's easy filler if they want to release a book every year.
Mostly I just wonder if that'll happen because GW has given the Chaos forces very dedicated releases. Khorne with no end in sight (oddly enough the only one with precious little on the 40k side), then Tzeentch, and now Nurgle. I'm not convinced that they plan on returning to a force they've wrapped up anytime soon.
Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...
I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.
It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.
Paintalist wrote: Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?
I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.
Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.
I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.
I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.
The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.
I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.
Erren wrote: I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.
It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.
As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.
The Changeling wasn't part of the initial Disciples of Tzeentch teaser, either. I wouldn't rule out an updated Epidemius just yet. We still have 6 more days of Nurgle! As far as Pestigors go, I kind of hope they don't announce them with this initial release. This has more to do with how the god-specific armies work in AoS than 40k, but Tzeentch Arcanites rely heavily on Tzaangors, and I want each god's follower army to feel unique. I'd rather they hold Khorngors and Pestigors for a later date.
True, can't rule out Epidemius still getting a release.
The Gor thing seems more like a rules thing than anything else. Without having much experience myself, I reckon Tzaangors are popular because they are the only Tzeentchian choppy unit and the most durable to boot. You wouldn't have that problem with Khorngors and they could fill a good middle ground between Warriors and Marauders. Similarly, Slaangors might just give Slaaneshi armies something a bit more durable than usual.
But I don't think GW is too concerned with staple units and more with the overall image of an army. If they are returning to marked Beastmen in Age of Sigmar and more importantly want to reintroduce Beastmen in 40k as they seem to do, I'd find it odd if they stopped at Tzaangors.
Cool model with some nice options - let down by the paintjob again, and I really dislike the Tim Burton styled curvy wood they keep throwing on every damn model.
The entire current Nurgle palette is way too soft/bright...and doesn't deliver any darkness/forboding/fear or actual feeling or rot or decomposition. The entire Death Guard range by GW suffers the same. It's obviously not a complaint about the "technical" proficiency of the painter, but when I think of a Greater Unclean One...an actual Greater Daemon...I want this:
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Not this:
But this: (this is a WIP)
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I just find the GW palette and painting to be an absolute snooze-fest...some of the worst I've seen them do as far as colour choices and execution.
I definitely don't like the direction 'Eavy Metal has taken their style, but with it doesn't take much to to make these models look just as horrifying as ever. Love you WIP picture, btw.
I've come to embrace the brighter colors of the new paint schemes. I usually stop painting after base, details, highlights, then a dark wash.... So my models looks very dark. After seeing these new bright colors I've been going back over my models again.
EnTyme wrote: I definitely don't like the direction 'Eavy Metal has taken their style, but with it doesn't take much to to make these models look just as horrifying as ever. Love you WIP picture, btw.
Hell, that ain't mine - it's ThirdEyeNuke, the master of gross and creepy.
I may have to get them all! Hopefully their rules are fun, that giant bell and dagger (why something so fat would use such short ranged weapons is silly, but, TOTALLY NURGLE) must have some cool abilities.
Can someone confirm, does Rotigus have a second head, or is that a face in his left arm?
I really hope epidemius gets an update, and we see pestigors too. I feel like Ep is a great character whose kit could double as a generic herald on palanquin (or even triple with a death guard character on palanquin). And the pestigors obviously could be useful in beastman armies as well.
The paint job doesn’t bother me, I think most of the stuff they’re going to do is going to have a brighter cleaner look. I can’t say I’ve seen anything meant as a main showcase model from the eavy metal team which was done in the last 10 years that looked much different. I’m guessing It has more to do with the details models being easier for people to take in quickly, vs looking more realistic. As I say, doesn’t bother me here, but when they released the plastic minotaurs back in the day, I think it really hurt their perception, as instead of looking like large fuzzy savages, covered in fur, they seemed more like weird Caucasian hairless bodybuilders. I recall back in the 90’s thinking all space marine armor looked like it was painted to resemble Tupperware.
I guess they’ve retired old Kuggath, the former GUO special character who rode a palanquin. I always hoped we’d see an official GW version. Maybe they’ll surprise us someday?
Ruin wrote: Why do I have a horrible feeling that both of the new GUO's (esp. the first one) do not seem to have weapons that match up with existing models.
The maybe flail seems almost shield-like in the way it's being held.
They said that there are profiles for them in the forthcoming book, so it's likely they share some components somewhere or we have arms that they didn't show as they're "boring".
Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.
glotkin conversions also looks cool as well though asides from the extra horns seem to have as much texture as the new guy. its probably a limitation on plastic injection moulds.
Yeah, I really liked the new GUO on first impression. Still do. But the issue I'd have is that next to my pre-existing FWGUO it's just going to look too toyish. I'm still tempted, but it's not the auto buy it might have been if I don't have a fully painted FW one in my cabinet.
Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.
Undoubtedly cheaper, but the last GD was the Lord Of Change at £70. Given GW's policy of building rises into new releases, we can reasonably expect the GUO to be a bit more, maybe £75/80?
Now, the FW one is currently £125, so a good chunk more, but I'd contend we're in the price range where if people have committed mentally to spending ~£75 then the leap to spending £125 isn't huge, especially given the difference in pricing policies benefits people living in countries where their domestic currency is strong against the pound more for FW than it does for GW.
This'll undoubtedly sell loads because of the lower price, greater exposure, ease of access and the fact it is a nice model, but I can see more than one buyer thinking "feth it, I'll spend the extra and get the FW one."
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Where is this confirmed?
The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.
Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.
Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.
No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Where is this confirmed?
The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.
Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.
Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.
No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.
It looks like its just hanging over his hand like any other flail.
you could always model it falling foward instead of over his hand.
Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.
glotkin conversions also looks cool as well though asides from the extra horns seem to have as much texture as the new guy. its probably a limitation on plastic injection moulds.
Point taken.
I love the detail on the FW version, but don't like the pose at all, so its out. Similar pose on the new one is not winning any points either. Took a closer look at the at the Glottkin todya and the detail is far more interesting and varied on different parts of the model. Detail on the new one seems to be very similar over the whole model. Detail on the Glottkin also seems to resolve to a finer level.
I love the detail on the FW version, but don't like the pose at all, so its out. Similar pose on the new one is not winning any points either. Took a closer look at the at the Glottkin todya and the detail is far more interesting and varied on different parts of the model. Detail on the new one seems to be very similar over the whole model. Detail on the Glottkin also seems to resolve to a finer level.
Different strokes...
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I think the back on the new one might be more interesting. i saw the one with the giant pot but i think its similarly done as the fw one with the bones exposed.
Aww, I hoped the scythe option someone speculated about would turn out to be true. I prefer the FW one. The face especially, but the hooded head is very nice, too. I never bought the FW one and it might get another price increase or two. I'm not in a hurry to buy a GUO of any sort, however, I got Ghurk cheap-ish to convert into a GUO one day. With the sword bits from this one that is even easier now. If the character one had a scythe it'd a no-brainer.
That Nurgling knight, though. I already have one converted with shield and all, but this one has to join his buddy!
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Where is this confirmed?
The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.
Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.
Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.
No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.
Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?
That GUO color style reminded me social ads about health care and stuff.
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And I don't think that is a bad thing - at least for nurgle. Otherwise how would you promote a truly realisticly disgusting army?
How many people REALLY do like those real-life atrocities?
I think not a lot of them.
But if you inspect new nurgle-related miniatures you would notice that it's just a matter of painting style. To make some rot or rust you just tone done colors. Heavy use of pygments and washes will do the trick.
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Where is this confirmed?
The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.
Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.
Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.
No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.
Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?
Seeing as I got downvoted to hell yesterday on there for even daring to suggest exactly what has been stated in this thread by multiple posters ref- colour scheme and there being nicer 3rd party models out there I'd say I'm entirely justified in feeling this seems to represent the online 40k community at large right now. Don'tcha dare say anything that can be perceived as a swipe at sweet lady GW and their Lord and saviour Duncan. Oh, no.
What's that? I asked a question that hinted that GWmay be screwing over existing GUO owners be making their models be illegally equipped? TO THE BATTLEMENTS!
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Where is this confirmed?
The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.
Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.
Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. feth off mate. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.
No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.
Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?
Seeing as I got downvoted to hell yesterday on there for even daring to suggest exactly what has been stated in this thread by multiple posters ref- colour scheme and there being nicer 3rd party models out there I'd say I'm entirely justified in feeling this seems to represent the online 40k community at large right now. Don'tcha dare say anything that can be perceived as a swipe at sweet lady GW and their Lord and saviour Duncan. Oh, no.
What's that? I asked a question that hinted that GWmay be screwing over existing GUO owners be making their models be illegally equipped? TO THE BATTLEMENTS!
...because nobody criticises GW?...yes...of course...that sounds exactly like the 40k community....yeah....
you weren't being disagreed with for "criticising GW"...you were being disagreed with because...in no bloody way does that flail look like a shield. it is clearly a flail, much like the old one has...more to the point, why on earth would they give a GUO a shield option? he doesn't exactly need one...and even if by some bizarre moon-logic, it is a shield...it's not a very bloody good shield design, is it?...it'd be about as effective a shield as wearing brass knuckles!
Getting back on topic then... If day 1 was a teaser and day 2 is the GUO then days 3-7 must be: Tree, Beasts, Mounted Blightkin and Heralds.
Doesn't particularly interest me since I don't play Age of Sigmar nor do I play Nurgle Daemons, are we expecting anything else for New Year's or is this it? (Not complaining, it's a nice meaty models release but, as I said, doesn't particularly interest me - only thing I might get for my army would be a GUO but I still prefer the FW one)
The models, AoS battletome and 40k codex should be released in January - February. I havent followed Malign Portents closely. I guess that will come before, available to preorder next week or so.
Gotta agree on the Nurgle paint schemes in general... that being said, they obviously don't want to make them so gross that mommy won't buy them.
GUO looks good to me, in line with the recent GD sculpts, stayed close to the widely praised FW model. I think it will be possible to do some really great paintwork with it, and some really quick but good paintwork too. They really went all-in on Nurgle it seems, pretty shocking amount of minis for the line. Would I be nuts to say Nurgle has gotten more love than primaris in the past 6 months?
Any idea what the thing in the background on the wallpaper image is? Looks to me like a large head with really thick broken off horns. Is it the Rotigus version of the GUO? Or Scabby? Something else entirely? Or maybe I'm just seeing things.
Undoubtedly cheaper, but the last GD was the Lord Of Change at £70. Given GW's policy of building rises into new releases, we can reasonably expect the GUO to be a bit more, maybe £75/80?
Now, the FW one is currently £125, so a good chunk more, but I'd contend we're in the price range where if people have committed mentally to spending ~£75 then the leap to spending £125 isn't huge, especially given the difference in pricing policies benefits people living in countries where their domestic currency is strong against the pound more for FW than it does for GW.
This'll undoubtedly sell loads because of the lower price, greater exposure, ease of access and the fact it is a nice model, but I can see more than one buyer thinking "feth it, I'll spend the extra and get the FW one."
As lord of change was sold at the same price as blood thirster I trully hope great unclean one will be 70 pounds retail price. And this is my second point: when comparing prices you should consider it is very easy to find it at 20 and even 25 percent discount... so maybe 52 pounds with postage included, instead of 125 pounds more postage... so almost a third of forgeworld price! So ok forge world one is a masterpiece while gw one is more cartoonish but it is also more in style with the actual release and also more customizable.
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Yup.
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Yup.
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.
An interesting theory- not sure whats it's based on, as it was never an issue before when they did exactly that, nor for other parties that enjoy wallowing in that kind of thing.
Decay in all its nauseating splendor is one of the hooks of the zombie fetish after all, and that's currently very strong again.
I figure the Eavy Metal paintjobs are done with the express purpose of delivering a clean, clear visual representation of the model and all it's details, so that everything stands out and can be seen quickly and clearly, to help sell the model - this is effectively advertising, not a regular hobbyist army paint scheme
if they covered the thing in assorted grotesque, mottled decay effects and filth, the model's details wouldn't stand out nearly as much, so to newer hobbyists, or to those in the community that are less hobby-minded, who can't mentally deconstruct a paintjob and see the blank canvas as well as more experienced/hobby-minded people, it would be harder to see exactly what you're getting, and probably therefore, a harder sell...maybe?
Nostromodamus wrote: Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.
Yup.
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.
An interesting theory- not sure whats it's based on, as it was never an issue before when they did exactly that, nor for other parties that enjoy wallowing in that kind of thing.
Decay in all its nauseating splendor is one of the hooks of the zombie fetish after all, and that's currently very strong again.
Well the really old paint jobs were far more cartoony, while the paint jobs on the last generation of metal minis were darker but still far from what gangrenous flesh really looks like. Not to mention the model and paint quality was simply not as good as today. And honestly I think the majority of players could handle it perfectly well, but even turning away something like 10% of would-be buyers is a huge hit. Subconscious repulsion could easily account for that much imo.
The thing to remember is GW paint style is largely to show the model details first, great colour scheme second. If they went with some of the colour schemes people have shown it would be harder to tell what on the model is sculpted and what is an added effect by the painter.
I also think they keep the paint style simple enough to replicate rather than ones that require tremendous skill.
More on topic though I really like the option variety in this kit, maybe one day slaanesh will get this love.
Slaanesh and Khorne releases in the next two years according to Atia. Thebiggesthat had heard the Slaanesh wave would come end of 2018. And GW's Adam Troke mentioned during one of the Q3 2017 WarhammerTV livestreams that they are indeed working on new stuff for Slaanesh.
Can’t wait for Slaanesh to get the Nurgle/Tzeentch treatment. Slaanesh is my favourite god but the models don’t live up to it. Hopefully the KoS looks like the art from Gathering Storm:
So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Jidmah wrote: Basic orks don't need an upgrade - none of the plastic infantry kits do.
They do look a bit dated, but not as bad as the Imperial Guard or Chaos Space Marines. Those models look so dated that they are plain ugly next to modern miniatures. They really need an update.
Jidmah wrote: Basic orks don't need an upgrade - none of the plastic infantry kits do.
Basic Chaos Marines do imho.
I'd argue that basically any basic infantry kit that isn't generic Marines, Thousand Sons, Fire Warriors, Scions, or Plague Marines could use it.
Guard could use a mold refresh on the Cadians and a resculpt on the Catachans, along with both incorporating a HWT and Special Weapon options in full for the squad.
Necrons could use new Warriors.
Tyranids could use new Hormagaunts and Termagants--if nothing else with the heads being put as one and Hormagaunts given some scenic bits to be 'scuttling' over to balance them a bit better.
Etc
Etc
It’s the third day of Nurgle – a very special day indeed, given the significance of the number 3 to the God of Plagues! Today, we’re checking out a couple of the new Heralds available to Nurgle armies:
Previously, Nurgle only had one kind of Herald available, known appropriately as a Herald. However, these guys only represented some of the myriad servants available to the God of Plagues, and with the new Codex: Chaos Daemons and Battletome: Maggotkin of Nurgle, Heralds are getting more diverse than ever.
Our favourite has to be the Sloppity Bilepiper, a miniature that sums up the repugnant jollity of Nurgle perfectly. Armed with a set of jolly gutpipes and a marotter (crafted from the remains of the previous Sloppity Bilepiper), these Heralds are the victims and carriers of the Chortling Murrain, a disease that causes its victims to laugh themselves to death. Sloppity Bilepipers cavort and joke with Nurglings, Great Unclean Ones and Beasts of Nurgle (but not Plaguebearers, who lack a sense of humour) and strike horror into the hearts of their mortal foes.
Meanwhile, the Spoilpox Scrivener is a downright dour creature by comparison… It’s the job of the Spoilpox Scriveners to ensure that Plaguebearers meet their tallies, a job they accomplish by relentlessly browbeating and bullying their counterparts with a barrage of insults and commands. On the tabletop, the Spoilpox Scrivener will ensure that your Plaguebearers fight harder, making them a handy strategic lynchpin for the rest of your army.
Make sure to come back tomorrow, when we’ll be taking a look at some of Nurgle’s more mortal (but no less deadly!) servants.
mrhappyface wrote: Doesn't the bilepiper look a bit jolly for a plaguebearer?
So, the fluff blurb they give us is that the Bilepiper is a Plaguebearer who doesn't associate with other Plaguebearers. He follows Nurglings, Beasts of Nurgle, and Great Unclean Ones avoiding other Plaguebearers because "they don't have a sense of humor".
One Herald for your Plaugebois, the other for your big bois. That kinda fixes last editions "which locus do I take" issue by just saying flat out "this one is for these units and this one is for these units".
I disagree. Necron Warriors are fine as is. They don't need to look all fancy and unique. They are supposed to look basic and bland, and I'd rather they not look Egyptian or have ornamentation.
I disagree. Necron Warriors are fine as is. They don't need to look all fancy and unique. They are supposed to look basic and bland, and I'd rather they not look Egyptian or have ornamentation.
Necron Warriors do need a new kit. One that better matches the Immortals by doing away with the green plastic rod and doesn't take a four armed Genestealer to get the arms to line up properly.
Warpspy wrote: So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Oh well...
While I love some of the new mini’s like the tree and the cool rider guy on horse I have to agree.
Also on a separate note I think the building in the right is just the blight tree in front of some ruins.
I sure hope other factions get this love and attention. Poor de nerf some cool stuff. I doubt they will.
Warpspy wrote: So after a (almost) Nurgle year, we start the new year with... more Nurgle?
Well it seems that they are releasing absolutely everything for Death Guard and Nurgle in not-Fantasy. So as other user mentioned before, i hope then they can move on other armies and miniatures that long need an update. (Eldar aspect warriors, basic chaos space marines, basic orks, some ork vehicles, decent imperial guard kits, imperial guard tanks, changing many finecast miniatures to plastic, etc, etc...). This year has been (almost) only Nurgle DG stuff and space marines "bigger-better-taller" primaris releases. It's getting a bit boring. And for the 10 codex released so far, there are only new miniatures for 4 of them. And for DA and BA they are really a upgrade (primaris!) sprue and one model (primaris!) for each one, so i would not count them... Then again, I hope the next year we can see proper codex releases with actual new miniatures and kits, as used to be...
I think that the not-fantasy Nurgle stuff was already good enough and with a nice variety. Yet they release more figures for them. So i guess... Can we expect the same treatment for the other gods? Tzeentch and the Thousand Sons supposedly have had their releases already, but is not anywhere near the level of attention and quantity of models the DG/Nurgle is getting. I hope... no, i expect that with the TS codex they will release some more kits for them, similar to what DG/Nurgle has had. There are many units and models that they could release for them, and a chance to make nice army list without Magnus would be great.
The same for Slaanesh. Slaanesh miniatures and units have been neglected for quite long time. I expect we will see a new plastic Keeper of secret and more units for the Slaanesh demons. As well as model kits for Emperor's Children and World Eaters. The khorne berzekers are now really old models that need a nice update, i think. Khorne demons and fantasy stuff i think is in a much better status and it would surprise me (in a bad way) if they release yet more miniatures for not-fantasy and they won't release anything for World Eaters...
Oh well...
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
I disagree, I miss this aspect of Nurgle that they shoved aside when 3rd edition Grimdark Grimdarkness took over everything.
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
I disagree, I miss this aspect of Nurgle that they shoved aside when 3rd edition Grimdark Grimdarkness took over everything.
I agree with you. Though Nurgle needs a proper gross color scheme to really put it into effect.
Agreed. Abd the direction they took nurgle in is really dissapointing. The blight Kings and maggots lords were so much better than the current happy, cutesy prancey stuff
I disagree, I miss this aspect of Nurgle that they shoved aside when 3rd edition Grimdark Grimdarkness took over everything.
The problem with this new stuff is that it captures neither aspect of Nurgle: it's far too cutesy to reflect the death and decay of Nurgle and the models that make an effort to be more like the Nurgle of old look more hyperactive than jolly.
Hyperactive? Dancing is amongst some of the things nurgle had in his portfolio given that there's an entire planet tuned to dance on Bubonicus, where mortals dance till they fall from nurgles rot and become plaguebearers, whereupon someone new takes their place.
It's mostly the paint scheme's that GW uses to show off every bit of the model which is a bit brighter then most would use for Nurgle forces.
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Hyperactive? Dancing is amongst some of the things nurgle had in his portfolio given that there's an entire planet tuned to dance on Bubonicus, where mortals dance till they fall from nurgles rot and become plaguebearers, whereupon someone new takes their place.
It's mostly the paint scheme's that GW uses to show off every bit of the model which is a bit brighter then most would use for Nurgle forces.
The dancers are human not Daemon and the dance itself isn't some hyperactive jumping around dance, they dance in a chain. In any case, father Nurgle and the GUOs are not dancers and are synonymous with being Jolly not hyperactive.
There's plenty on both sides of the fence. Even the GUO has both a smile face and a angry face, while the special character hardly looks jolly. For that matter, the only jolly things we've seen are one herald (paired with another herald that isn't) and the beasts (which have always been that way).
So basically people are whining over a trend that doesn't exist, like always. It's fine to not like the aesthetic of some miniatures or even a whole release, I don't see why people need to blow it up into a huge trend to try and justify their position.
ZebioLizard2 wrote: Hyperactive? Dancing is amongst some of the things nurgle had in his portfolio given that there's an entire planet tuned to dance on Bubonicus, where mortals dance till they fall from nurgles rot and become plaguebearers, whereupon someone new takes their place.
It's mostly the paint scheme's that GW uses to show off every bit of the model which is a bit brighter then most would use for Nurgle forces.
The dancers are human not Daemon and the dance itself isn't some hyperactive jumping around dance, they dance in a chain. In any case, father Nurgle and the GUOs are not dancers and are synonymous with being Jolly not hyperactive.
Hyperactive jumping around dance? The bagpiper there seems like he's leading a line of dancers, not jumping around.. The nurgling is like that, but that's the nurgling and neither of the GUO's are dancing, one of which is angry and one's happy.
I honestly don't know what you are seeing in this, and I really am not seeing this hyperactivity you are seeing in these models.
NinthMusketeer wrote: There's plenty on both sides of the fence. Even the GUO has both a smile face and a angry face, while the special character hardly looks jolly. For that matter, the only jolly things we've seen are one herald (paired with another herald that isn't) and the beasts (which have always been that way).
So basically people are whining over a trend that doesn't exist, like always. It's fine to not like the aesthetic of some miniatures or even a whole release, I don't see why people need to blow it up into a huge trend to try and justify their position.
I am whining over a trend that doesn't exist and the trend that doesn't exist is any of the jollyness or death/decay that represents Nurgle. The only argueably jolly models are the beasts but even then, like the rest of the new Nurgle line, they are more cartoonishly happy-creepy than jolly.
NinthMusketeer wrote: There's plenty on both sides of the fence. Even the GUO has both a smile face and a angry face, while the special character hardly looks jolly. For that matter, the only jolly things we've seen are one herald (paired with another herald that isn't) and the beasts (which have always been that way).
So basically people are whining over a trend that doesn't exist, like always. It's fine to not like the aesthetic of some miniatures or even a whole release, I don't see why people need to blow it up into a huge trend to try and justify their position.
Nice proof of your immaturity that you feel the need to call people who dont agree with you whiners
NinthMusketeer wrote: There's plenty on both sides of the fence. Even the GUO has both a smile face and a angry face, while the special character hardly looks jolly. For that matter, the only jolly things we've seen are one herald (paired with another herald that isn't) and the beasts (which have always been that way).
So basically people are whining over a trend that doesn't exist, like always. It's fine to not like the aesthetic of some miniatures or even a whole release, I don't see why people need to blow it up into a huge trend to try and justify their position.
Nice proof of your immaturity that you feel the need to call people who dont agree with you whiners
It's kinda like when people say they hate remakes of movies. Well... The original is still available. It wasn't deleted world wide and replaced with the new one. (and hey, even the It remake showed how dancing can be pretty sinister ) If people don't like a color scheme, it ain't gonna look like that out of the box anyway.... I'm a highly critical and opinionated Virgo, and even I roll my eyes at this site most of the time.
Jolly Nurgle aestetic for ever! And ever... And ever..... And everrrrrrr....
NinthMusketeer wrote: There's plenty on both sides of the fence. Even the GUO has both a smile face and a angry face, while the special character hardly looks jolly. For that matter, the only jolly things we've seen are one herald (paired with another herald that isn't) and the beasts (which have always been that way).
So basically people are whining over a trend that doesn't exist, like always. It's fine to not like the aesthetic of some miniatures or even a whole release, I don't see why people need to blow it up into a huge trend to try and justify their position.
Nice proof of your immaturity that you feel the need to call people who dont agree with you whiners
Nurglings and Beasts of Nurgle and Great Unclean Ones laughing at Nurgling antics (including Nurgle himself laughing at Ku'Gath's antics) show that jolliness has always been an aspect of Nurgle, although Plaguebearers were specifically not that aspect.
Of course, as someone else pointed out, that bagpipe plaguebearer is more the exception that confirms the norm, with his fluff specifically stating that other plaguebearers have no sense of humour.
streetsamurai wrote: Yes it always was an aspect of nurgle, but it was, imo, more nuanced than it is now.
When i saw thses new nurgle models, the first thing that came to my mind is monster inc. Which is not a good thing.
Same thing for most of the death guard also. Which is a shame, since the et nurgle models were probably among my favorites ever
As others have mentioned, I think toning down the paint scheme would help with that. How much I'm not sure, but I know that the FEGUO certainly gives off a much different vibe when painted like these preview models have been.
streetsamurai wrote: Yes it always was an aspect of nurgle, but it was, imo, more nuanced than it is now.
When i saw thses new nurgle models, the first thing that came to my mind is monster inc. Which is not a good thing.
Same thing for most of the death guard also. Which is a shame, since the et nurgle models were probably among my favorites ever
As others have mentioned, I think toning down the paint scheme would help with that. How much I'm not sure, but I know that the FEGUO certainly gives off a much different vibe when painted like these preview models have been.
GW’s painters make everything look cartoonish and fake. I really wish GW would start showing us assembled but unpainted minis in their website alongside the painted ones. Personally, I find it much easier to judge how much I like a model when I see it unpainted.
As I understand it the paint jobs are made that way to show the details of the kit better. I'm not sure if it's worth making the miniature look less appealing, but then I'm not sure how many are bothered enough by that they don't buy when they would have otherwise.
Regardless I agree that showing assembled & unpainted would be a good idea.
Nurgle models can probably get away with a lot less paints to be table ready. I remember a WD article that showed white primed, minor details, then washes to take care of Plague Bearerers en mass. Perhaps the GW teams encourage a wider display of colors to promote the paint line better? I myself use at least about 10 or so different colors on each model, and speed painting becomes week long painting.
They also are promoting the whole brush line too, so make sure you get your base, highlights, fine, washes, etc for every official GW painted model. Which is why the highlights on their models are always so obvious and deliberate.
I see a lot of cheerleading for the 'eavy metal guys and very little tin-foil-hatting about the little snippets of text regarding possible rule implications.
I guess it's pretty straightforward when it comes to the two herald types, but I'm stoked now to see what they do for the GUO in order to "properly reflect the expanded weapon options (not to mention bulk!) now available in the kit."
Anyone else think that points to a statline increase more in keeping with the GUO of the past?
Zmoney716 wrote: I see a lot of cheerleading for the 'eavy metal guys and very little tin-foil-hatting about the little snippets of text regarding possible rule implications.
I guess it's pretty straightforward when it comes to the two herald types, but I'm stoked now to see what they do for the GUO in order to "properly reflect the expanded weapon options (not to mention bulk!) now available in the kit."
Anyone else think that points to a statline increase more in keeping with the GUO of the past?
Think of it more like the new Bloodthirster and Lord of Change.
To put it in perspective though, they showed off the AoS stats for the new Great Unclean One.
That is a boost of 6 Wounds for it.
reluxor wrote: Can we hope for a "decent" lucius the eternal model?
Yes. Seeing as that Typhus, Kharn and Ahriman got new models, Lucius is virtually certain to get a new one as well. GW is probably going to do an Emperor's Children/Slaanesh release coming year. Whether the model will be decent? That is subjective. But given GW's skills at making awesome minis, I think it is a safe bet to say that it will be ace.
Zmoney716 wrote: I see a lot of cheerleading for the 'eavy metal guys and very little tin-foil-hatting about the little snippets of text regarding possible rule implications.
I guess it's pretty straightforward when it comes to the two herald types, but I'm stoked now to see what they do for the GUO in order to "properly reflect the expanded weapon options (not to mention bulk!) now available in the kit."
Anyone else think that points to a statline increase more in keeping with the GUO of the past?
Think of it more like the new Bloodthirster and Lord of Change.
To put it in perspective though, they showed off the AoS stats for the new Great Unclean One.
That is a boost of 6 Wounds for it.
To put this in perspective, in AoS, the Bloodthirsty and Lord of Change each have 14 wounds, 4+ save, 10 bravery, and starts at 10" move (reduced as they take damage). The GUO will have +2 wounds and the speed, which makes a lot of sense given the lore. He'll also regenerate wounds, and probably have a save-after-the-save a la Disgustingly Resilient.
Never forget that Nurgle isn't the God of Death; he's the God of Decay and Rebirth. The latter is every bit as important as the former to Nurgle, otherwise what's the point? There's a reason why the upcoming Malign Portents campaign features the Maggotkin so heavily, and that's due to Nurgle having a vested interest in preventing the world from falling into a state of undeath.
I love the new Heralds. The Sloppity Bilepiper to me is a combination of the Pied Piper and depictions of the Danse Macabre, whereas the Spoilpox Scrivener looks like some horrific Heironymus Bosch creation, especially with a more muted, earthly colour scheme. I really do think they're brilliant, in Nurgle's morbid fashion.
You're welcome to hate the colour scheme, it's certainly not to my preference, but as far as I'm concerned, the aesthetic is pretty bang on the money. It only seems too upbeat because of the vibrancy of the paints used.
Nurgle is all about fecundity. He loves life, and wants to create as much of it as possibly. Sure, he might have you stabbed up, but look at all the little microbes and bugs and crawling things birthed by your death. When you see all life as equal, that's a no brainer equation. Take one life to create trillions.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: "Sloppity Bilepiper" sounds like something a kindergartener would come up with.
I can dig the ridiculousness of the names to an extent, but you can bet I'll only ever be calling them Bilepiper and Scrivener respectively when speaking about them
Matt.Kingsley wrote: "Sloppity Bilepiper" sounds like something a kindergartener would come up with.
I can dig the ridiculousness of the names to an extent, but you can bet I'll only ever be calling them Bilepiper and Scrivener respectively when speaking about them
Just like all those people who call the Dark Angel’s primarch “The Lion”, so that they can pretend he doesn’t have the most stupid name in 40k
The minis are fantastic so far though. The Piper (as I shall be calling him) is glorious and with a very different paint scheme, could look horrifically macabre. Almost makes me want to collect Death Guard.
I'm okay with the aesthetic of Nurgles' new models if only because it adds some variance on the tabletop. There is plenty of edgy grimdarkness in Khorne's line. A bunch of grinning Cheshire cat daemons stands out in a pleasent manner.
If any line should have the "nefarious" look it should be Slaanesh units. Daemonettes should have a facial expression that says theres a 50-50 chance they'll either give you a handy or skin you alive depending on the day of the week.
BlaxicanX wrote: I'm okay with the aesthetic of Nurgles' new models if only because it adds some variance on the tabletop. There is plenty of edgy grimdarkness in Khorne's line. A bunch of grinning Cheshire cat daemons stands out in a pleasent manner.
If any line should have the "nefarious" look it should be Slaanesh units. Daemonettes should have a facial expression that says theres a 50-50 chance they'll either give you a handy or skin you alive depending on the day of the week.
I love the new figures, but why do they look so clean? What's with all the nice pastel shades, I thought they were supposed to be, well...rotten, infested, manky?
This guy looks like he could be build from a standrard Blightking and some bits. Way less bling and overall busy look compsred to other new hero models. I will get him to copy that sexy shield.
Maybe he'll be a lesser character, sort of an low rank aspiring champion acting as a field lieutnant.
did a bit of a sloppy photoshop on one of the GUO's to try to show it in a more grungy style...of course I'm no photoshop pro, so I can only do so much, but hey
...I'd sooner glue a mouldy old sock to a 60mm base and use that instead...
