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'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:02:21


Post by: Ghaz





A second teaser to go along with 'Fifty Shelves of Grey'

Spoiler:



According to Warhammer Community ...

Something big is coming for paint – something we’ve been hinting at for a while now.

At this stage, we can reveal that Warhammer Fest will be your first opportunity to get hands-on experience with this awesome something-ness – and trust us, this is something you’re going to want to check out in-person.


4 May 2019 - New video...

Spoiler:



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:17:19


Post by: BrookM


The hype is killing me.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:20:10


Post by: H


As farcical as these trailers for teasers for information about forthcoming teasers are, I can't deny they are rather well done.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:23:09


Post by: ph34r


Can't wait for the Citadel Nuln Oil Bucket.

Conveniently priced at the cost of 20 Nuln Oil, for a savings of $0 and 19 valuable clicks.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:24:39


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I'm wondering if it's a pigment that adapts to any colour?

Or a whole new, rejigged paint system type thing?



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:33:47


Post by: H


 ph34r wrote:
Can't wait for the Citadel Nuln Oil Bucket.

Conveniently priced at the cost of 20 Nuln Oil, for a savings of $0 and 19 valuable clicks.


Yeah, based off nothing at all and the "name" Contrast, I'm going to guess it's some kind of dip that is based off their Shades.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:34:32


Post by: Manfred von Drakken


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I'm wondering if it's a pigment that adapts to any colour?

Or a whole new, rejigged paint system type thing?



I guess I can hold off painting for a few weeks...

*looks at backlog*

...weeks, sure... yeah...

But seriously, color me intrigued. And I really love their teaser videos.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:35:48


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


They couldn't be doing washes in a spray can, could they?

Would that even work?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
No, wait. They're demoing it at Warhammerfest. Enclosed space, not safe to spray. So I guess it's not that.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:40:01


Post by: Elbows


While I originallly agreed it would be an airbrush, I wonder if it's actually dip? It doesn't fit with the GW method of selling paints, etc...but it would be a feasible thing.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:41:47


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


It's an (expensive) augumented reality app,

Install the app, look at an unpainted official GW mini through your 3d glasses and it will appear painted to Duncan standards

you get to experience exciting colourful battles even if your opponent (or you) haven't painted anything


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:51:04


Post by: lord_blackfang


I'm gonna make a wild guess and say zenithal shading spray.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 17:54:22


Post by: Valander


I really, really, hope it isn't pre-painted models. (I think they mentioned it would not be elsewhere, though.)

My bet is on either an official GW airbrush (would make sense now since they actually have airbrush paints and the general rise of popularity of the tool), or multi-colored sprues, a la Bandai stuff. That's not pre-painted, but pre-colored, and multi-colored at that, does kill the "shades of grey" thing.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:00:56


Post by: oni


My suspicion is that it's an airbrush. The only reason I would think otherwise is that they would have to also sell parts for the airbrush and I'm convinced they wouldn't want to do that.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:01:14


Post by: Nurglitch


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's an (expensive) augumented reality app,

Install the app, look at an unpainted official GW mini through your 3d glasses and it will appear painted to Duncan standards

you get to experience exciting colourful battles even if your opponent (or you) haven't painted anything


Of course they bring this out a mere decade after I start painting my armies!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:10:13


Post by: Umbros


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm gonna make a wild guess and say zenithal shading spray.


This was my guess. No idea how it would work but hey!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:10:24


Post by: BrianDavion


what if it's an expansion of their spray paints line? right now we've got sprays that allow you to do a quick base coat etc. but what if they put out spray cans that sprayed as fine as an airbrush? (that'd be a fancy feat I imagine) could make for a very intreasting product.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:15:09


Post by: BrotherGecko


My guess I will throw into the ring is paint markers like the Gunpla community has.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:17:57


Post by: Theophony


Space Marine Chapter Specific Sunglasses . Just put them on and they make your grey plastics look the color of your chapter.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:20:24


Post by: GaroRobe


What happened to Duncan? He's been gone for awhile. :/

Also, Peachy looks lesss like Morpheus, more like Dr. Sivana from Shazam XD


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:31:34


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I suspect Duncan, being the more avuncular of the two is busy making the 'how to' vids for whatever this is?

Don't get me wrong, Peachy is good. Just, I find Duncan a more engaging tutor.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:36:52


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


The return of Charadon Granite.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:37:47


Post by: Ghaz


Duncan was at AdeptiCon a few weeks back and then was on holiday. He had a tutorial for the Skaven Gnawholes just last Monday.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:40:44


Post by: GoatboyBeta


Ok now I'm totally confused. I'd assumed the fifty shelves teaser was for an air brush. But after this

That said...

 BrotherGecko wrote:
My guess I will throw into the ring is paint markers like the Gunpla community has.


This would not be the worst thing in the world. Maybe some kind of ultra fine tip to do reccess shading with?





'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:47:14


Post by: dan2026


I thought the images of their airbrush already leaked ages ago.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 18:58:56


Post by: H


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.


If only it could be so...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 19:19:45


Post by: Argive


My money is on a colour wheel. Yeah you could look at one for free. But this wont be any colour wheel, this will be a GW colour wheel. It will be laminated and stuff.. and at only £15 it could be yours.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 19:33:15


Post by: Ghaz


 Argive wrote:
My money is on a colour wheel. Yeah you could look at one for free. But this wont be any colour wheel, this will be a GW colour wheel. It will be laminated and stuff.. and at only £15 it could be yours.

They had one in White Dwarf in mid-2017...



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 19:34:23


Post by: Chairman Aeon


Markers would be a game changer. Spray prime base, marker details and wash to finish.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 19:59:09


Post by: BrianDavion


 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Markers would be a game changer. Spray prime base, marker details and wash to finish.


yeah it'd make things plenty easy, heck I'd still prefer to paint by and alrge but the markers would be a god send for things like gold trim etc


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:05:01


Post by: torblind


 Ghaz wrote:
 Argive wrote:
My money is on a colour wheel. Yeah you could look at one for free. But this wont be any colour wheel, this will be a GW colour wheel. It will be laminated and stuff.. and at only £15 it could be yours.

They had one in White Dwarf in mid-2017...



It is kinda nice though


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:08:14


Post by: Argive


but if they laminated it... for only £15 it coule be yours... Ima just sayin ya kno what i mean...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:10:15


Post by: Daedalus81


 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Markers would be a game changer. Spray prime base, marker details and wash to finish.


What are these markers you speak of? Last time I used one of those it was scratch and sniff.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:16:44


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Markers would be a game changer. Spray prime base, marker details and wash to finish.


What are these markers you speak of? Last time I used one of those it was scratch and sniff.


.

markers for detailing and panel lines.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:18:22


Post by: Irbis


I wonder, is the unpainted grey primaris model a teaser in itself?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 20:18:29


Post by: Daedalus81


Interesting.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 21:10:37


Post by: Chairman Aeon


 Daedalus81 wrote:
Interesting.


Ya, basically a paint brush masquerading as a felt tipped marker. Huge in the Gundam community and makes "painting" your models very accessible. They have large chiselled markers for ares and fine tips for details and recessed lining. But imagine paint markers matched to GW colours that you could wash over or use to highlight after a wash.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 21:17:57


Post by: Kanluwen


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.

Don't you freaking tease me.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 21:33:35


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m wondering if it’s more than a single product type we’re looking at.

Thinking back. GW really started working on their paints about 10 or so years ago, with the Foundation Range. Higher pigment for easier base coats (the yellow was a revelation to me!). Then came the first set of excellent washes, including Devlan Mud.

What felt like relatively shortly after came the current range. Base, layer, wash, etc. And that’s a range they’ve added to periodically with Technicals, and the odd colour here and there as a faction benefitted from it.

Air came next as a further expansion.

Whilst no painting guru, I can’t think of a paint archetype they don’t currently offer in some form.

So it could be a reworked paint range, a new way to apply (their spray base colours are a god send after all), or as others have intriguingly suggested, edging pens, formulated to exactly match existing colours (so no poor sod has to forgo them for sake of a consistent palette across their army).

Yet I’m not entirely convinced it is the pens. The brushes GW offer already include chisel tips.

I’m really at a loss this time. I don’t think it’s a branded airbrush, because one imagines that would’ve been sorted when they did the Air range.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 21:37:31


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


H wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.


If only it could be so...


Kanluwen wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.

Don't you freaking tease me.



It boggles my mind that such a wonderful paint lasted for what seemed to be such a short amount of time.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 21:54:36


Post by: Das_Ubermike


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
H wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.


If only it could be so...


Kanluwen wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.

Don't you freaking tease me.



It boggles my mind that such a wonderful paint lasted for what seemed to be such a short amount of time.


Can't you simply order that color from Instar Paints? I'm pretty sure they have a relationship to the previous generation of GW paints in a manner similar to how Coat D'Arms are just the old hexpot paints from the mid-late 90's rebranded and sold in circular pots.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:02:00


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


Well, I mean now that I know thats a thing, sure.

Spoiler:


It seems close to how I remember the color.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:22:45


Post by: H


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
It seems close to how I remember the color.


Unfortunately it's not exact. I ordered some from InStar and I still have a couple old pots and the Granite is a fair bit darker without a doubt. At least as far as me or any camera I can find can tell...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:26:20


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


I really wonder if the result can live up to the hype they are pushing because it's a freaking lot of hype and I got no idea what new paint product they could release lol.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:40:10


Post by: H


 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I really wonder if the result can live up to the hype they are pushing because it's a freaking lot of hype and I got no idea what new paint product they could release lol.


Well, in a sense, isn't the point of hype, to make something "more than it really is?"

If it "lived up to the hype" than it wasn't hype, it was a factual statement.

So, of course this will be some product that likely already exists (somewhere), already is being used and is not at all revolutionary. Because if it was "that big a deal" you wouldn't need to market it at all, it's utility would essentially be self-evident.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:44:51


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I really wonder if the result can live up to the hype they are pushing because it's a freaking lot of hype and I got no idea what new paint product they could release lol.



Prior experience has taught me to temper my expectations over GW hype. But there will be others who will not be satisfied by anything less than (and somewhat appropriately given the teaser theme)Matrix style implanted skills that let them paint to Golden Demon standard.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:46:39


Post by: Tannhauser42


I'm going with it being a dip, like Army Painter's Quickshade. If they can make it even easier than the Quickshade, they could have a winner on their hands.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 22:57:20


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


 H wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
It seems close to how I remember the color.


Unfortunately it's not exact. I ordered some from InStar and I still have a couple old pots and the Granite is a fair bit darker without a doubt. At least as far as me or any camera I can find can tell...


Dang.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 23:28:14


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


Instar are reverse engineering from old paint rather than being the manufacturer of the original range like Coat D'Arm, but their stuff is pretty good

(I've got my fingers crossed their new Scorched Brown will be close enough as mine is down to the last gunge at the bottom of the pot)

If you've not tried it yourself have a go as the paints seem to be closer than the on screen colours suggest (I wonder if some of them dry a slightly different colour than they are when wet, and the on screen stuff is based on wet paint?)


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 23:31:02


Post by: insaniak


 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I really wonder if the result can live up to the hype they are pushing because it's a freaking lot of hype and I got no idea what new paint product they could release lol.

It's going to be fun watching the internet lose its collective mind when, after all this hype, it just turns out to be dip.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/23 23:50:31


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


 H wrote:
Well, in a sense, isn't the point of hype, to make something "more than it really is?"

The aim of hype is to make it so on release date people are very excited about the product. If done well, people are excited before the product release, AND some time after the reveal. If done wrongly, people are very excited before the product release, and lose all excitement on the day the product is revealed.
What I meant was that I wasn't sure what they could release where the excitement would survive after the actual product reveal.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 00:29:49


Post by: Danny76


Well what I’ve learned from this is I should be selling my pots of Charadon Granite off at a premium..


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 01:22:06


Post by: Snrub


I predict whatever this ends up being is going to be a major let down. But it for sure won't be anything revolutionary.


Still.... I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very intrigued.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 01:36:00


Post by: drbored


 Snrub wrote:
I predict whatever this ends up being is going to be a major let down. But it for sure won't be anything revolutionary.


Still.... I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very intrigued.


I'm prepared for this. They're hyping it up like they're reinventing the wheel but at the end of the day there's only so many technologies you can invent that Apply Paint to Tiny Model.

Airbrush, markers, dips, all things that make painting *faster*, all fair guesses, none of them stunning and worthy of this much hype.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 02:32:02


Post by: Snrub


drbored wrote:
They're hyping it up like they're reinventing the wheel
You know, I actually wonder about this. Over the last year or so, what with their social media presence expanding so rapidly, I wonder whether these teaser vids (these two as an example, but i'd say there are others) are just the in-house media team finally having been given free reign to do promotional material.

So it might not be so much of "Look at this brand spanking new product that will be change the whole game" as just a bit of "Our wings are no longer clipped and look what we're finally allowed to do for the fun of it!"


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 02:33:23


Post by: Lockark


The amount of effort they are putting into announcing a new pain product is abit crazy, yet the tension is killing me to found out now lol. So I guess it's working.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 02:39:03


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Spray washes wouldn't be out of the question. Friend of mine has done quite a bit of work with washes using his airbrush and the results are pretty good.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 02:39:51


Post by: Buckybits


Looks like Army Painter is pushing their Quickshades with a very GW-esque model right now. Seems like they also think it's a shading product.

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'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 02:49:27


Post by: Elbows


Army Painter has used a lot of not-Warhammer models though, have done for a couple of years.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 03:19:03


Post by: insaniak


The first line of that does sound though like they're trying to get in a reminder that they did it first before the GW product drops.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 03:36:48


Post by: Snrub


Yeah, with the"est 2007" as well.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 06:14:52


Post by: hotsauceman1


All I know is...I will likely never use it LOL


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 06:28:47


Post by: Jadenim


Re-release of Devlan mud??!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 06:29:20


Post by: JohnnyHell


Two or three marketing mentions is hardly ‘too much hype’. They’ve made a silly, fun video. People are acting like they’ve hired a plane and are skywriting CONTRAST everywhere. The route to disappointment starts with expectations (and forum chatter amplifying things). Just relax and see what it is! As others have said, it’s pretty hard to innovate putting paint on Small Grey Doods so it will likely be a rebadged something else that’s already out there. And there’s nowt wrong with that tbh.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 06:42:57


Post by: Dropbear Victim


It will be GW's take on a quickshade but with nanomachines in it that eat 3rd party bits and models.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 06:55:10


Post by: Supershandy


 H wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
It seems close to how I remember the color.


Unfortunately it's not exact. I ordered some from InStar and I still have a couple old pots and the Granite is a fair bit darker without a doubt. At least as far as me or any camera I can find can tell...


It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, If this is a new Quickshade, we have what we call "Heavy" washes, these have a higher pigmentation than other washes on the market so you can get that preshading as well as still being able to use it as a normal wash with a small amount of thinning.

But we'll wait and see


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 07:02:46


Post by: tneva82


BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 08:03:18


Post by: Tyranid Horde


 Jadenim wrote:
Re-release of Devlan mud??!


Ah to get a whiff of that stuff again...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 08:47:25


Post by: DanceOfSlaanesh


I could imagine they would do a new range of paints similar to nighthaunt gloom and hexwraith flame.
Something they will claim gives shades and highlights in 1 stroke.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 11:31:36


Post by: Geifer


I call dips.

Seriously, three pages in and nobody phrased it like that? I am disappoint.

I don't have a clue what this might be, but I'm always down for more skill in a bottle.

tneva82 wrote:
BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.


Warhammer Fest is May 11 and 12, two and a half weeks out.

I occasionally use Charadon Granite as a base for rock and tarmac. I don't claim to understand colors well, but if I had to describe it, I'd say it's dark olive with a touch of grey. It serves me well as a base color for various shades of grey.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 11:34:13


Post by: Tyranid Horde


Does it serve as a base for 50 shades of grey by any chance?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 11:36:09


Post by: Geifer


Possibly, but I'm too busy with... scientific exploration... to count.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 11:54:42


Post by: Kanluwen


tneva82 wrote:
BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

May.

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.

Charadon Granite was a great base to work from for painting black. It wasn't actually a black paint but it was a very dark olive-grey that made painting flat black a hell of a lot more interesting and less time consuming.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 12:20:01


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


I wonder if they've developed a spray with white and black pigments where the black particles are heavier so they migrate to the underside and the white stays on top? That would definitely be a great foundation for lots of "Contrast". Basically a one step zenithal priming.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 12:48:43


Post by: H


OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Instar are reverse engineering from old paint rather than being the manufacturer of the original range like Coat D'Arm, but their stuff is pretty good

(I've got my fingers crossed their new Scorched Brown will be close enough as mine is down to the last gunge at the bottom of the pot)

If you've not tried it yourself have a go as the paints seem to be closer than the on screen colours suggest (I wonder if some of them dry a slightly different colour than they are when wet, and the on screen stuff is based on wet paint?)


I'm in no way trying to disparage the paint, it's good paint, no doubt.

Supershandy wrote:It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....


Well, again, I am really not trying to disparage your brand, it likely is the "closest" one could get on the market right now. And the paint itself is good quality and the price is good as well, even shipped to the US.


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Post by: Supershandy


 H wrote:
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Instar are reverse engineering from old paint rather than being the manufacturer of the original range like Coat D'Arm, but their stuff is pretty good

(I've got my fingers crossed their new Scorched Brown will be close enough as mine is down to the last gunge at the bottom of the pot)

If you've not tried it yourself have a go as the paints seem to be closer than the on screen colours suggest (I wonder if some of them dry a slightly different colour than they are when wet, and the on screen stuff is based on wet paint?)


I'm in no way trying to disparage the paint, it's good paint, no doubt.

Supershandy wrote:It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....


Well, again, I am really not trying to disparage your brand, it likely is the "closest" one could get on the market right now. And the paint itself is good quality and the price is good as well, even shipped to the US.


Oh we know you weren't and apologies if we came across differently.

Thanks for the mention as well about the shipping costs, we always try to work on the prices whenever we can


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Post by: A Town Called Malus


 Geifer wrote:

I occasionally use Charadon Granite as a base for rock and tarmac. I don't claim to understand colors well, but if I had to describe it, I'd say it's dark olive with a touch of grey. It serves me well as a base color for various shades of grey.


I used it for the basecoat and edges of my bases for my Dark Elves. Made for a good starting point for the grim rock of Naggaroth.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 13:14:43


Post by: MackiMac


Dropper bottles maybe


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 13:34:20


Post by: Das_Ubermike


MackiMac wrote:
Dropper bottles maybe


I wish. More so than dip or an airbrush, I think dropped bottles would be great. I'm tired of transferring my citadel paints into dropper bottle so it'd be great if they were available like that off the jump.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 13:35:06


Post by: judgedoug


The big question is whether the Citadel Contrast/not-Quickshade will be water based or oil based, otherwise The Army Painter will remain king. Oil washes are an order of magnitude superior to water washes, so they'd have to perform some scientific wizardly if that's the case.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 13:37:40


Post by: Supershandy


Das_Ubermike wrote:
MackiMac wrote:
Dropper bottles maybe


I wish. More so than dip or an airbrush, I think dropped bottles would be great. I'm tired of transferring my citadel paints into dropper bottle so it'd be great if they were available like that off the jump.


We have a large number of 1:1 matched GW shades in our store in both the Main line and Vintage lines in Dropper bottles of various sizes from 5ml to 100ml.

Though I doubt GW are going to change their production lines anytime soon, putting it into dropper bottles involves a little more work than you think compared to just putting it into a pot with a lid you can seal shut


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 15:43:19


Post by: Chairman Aeon


 insaniak wrote:
The first line of that does sound though like they're trying to get in a reminder that they did it first before the GW product drops.


Ya, it's like the world had never heard of Minwax Polyshades.

And if it is a dip (or markers), don't underestimate the ability to have Contrast the same colours as the rest of the Citadel line. Not a big deal for "serious" painters, but as Charadon Granite shows matching colours is still a big thing.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 17:40:21


Post by: Samko


I would guess dip or airbrush.
But I don't care if it ends up being a useless overpriced product or anything else, as it gave us two really funny videos and that's enough to make me happy.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 18:03:44


Post by: Necros


I'd love to see em do dropper bottles, but at the same time the lazier painter in me also likes the little pots too


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 19:04:00


Post by: zedmeister


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.


Alas, if only it could be...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 20:26:21


Post by: hotsauceman1


I severly doupt Airbrush.
Any painter who is seriously looking into Airbrushing will look elsewhere and not bother with the Citadel Finebrush or something.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 20:53:20


Post by: Azreal13


 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I severly doupt Airbrush.
Any painter who is seriously looking into Airbrushing will look elsewhere and not bother with the Citadel Finebrush or something.


Rubbish. There's nothing on the hobby side that GW sell that isn't available elsewhere for either less money or with higher quality. Yet somehow there's clearly sufficient demand for massively overpriced PVA glue and white spray paint.

Perhaps nobody who's "seriously" looking for an airbrush will buy one, but there'd be a bunch of people who would.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 20:54:03


Post by: Theophony


Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 21:16:47


Post by: Cronch


With a name like Contrast, it's bound to be a dip imo.


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Post by: Chairman Aeon


Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 21:59:32


Post by: SnotlingPimpWagon


Shade + foundation in one formula maybe?
no idea how that would be made, but it would kill two birds with 1 stone, I suppose


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Post by: Tannhauser42


 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.


It could be a two-part system, where they match the dips to the appropriate spray primer/basecoat to achieve the final result.

Or...what if they came up with some magical dip that works the opposite of what we're expecting? Instead of sinking into the crevices, it stays up on the edges to provide highlights?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 23:37:09


Post by: Comstar


Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?


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Post by: insaniak


 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

Coloured spray, then dip.


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Comstar wrote:
Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?

Nuln Oil and Agrax Erathshade are washes, not dips. Washes are applied to the model with a brush. Dips are exactly how they sound - you dip the miniature in the pot, then shake off the excess and let it dry.

Before Army Painter, people were doing this with oil-based wood stains.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/24 23:53:01


Post by: Juicifer


Dry pigments maybe?


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Post by: AduroT


 insaniak wrote:
 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

Coloured spray, then dip.


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Comstar wrote:
Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?

Nuln Oil and Agrax Erathshade are washes, not dips. Washes are applied to the model with a brush. Dips are exactly how they sound - you dip the miniature in the pot, then shake off the excess and let it dry.

Before Army Painter, people were doing this with oil-based wood stains.


I still swear Army Painter is just repackaged Minwax Polishade.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 08:44:27


Post by: Supershandy


 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.


You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 09:27:40


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


Maybe its colored plastic? Didn't we see a rumor about that?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 09:29:30


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 Supershandy wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.


You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!


Does it contain electrolytes?

Electrolytes are what my brush craves


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 10:01:16


Post by: ImAGeek


 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Maybe its colored plastic? Didn't we see a rumor about that?


They’ve said it’s not that.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 10:32:30


Post by: fasterthanlight


Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

I'm SO curious though.... when is the reveal?

FTL


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 10:55:43


Post by: Supershandy


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Supershandy wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.


You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!


Does it contain electrolytes?

Electrolytes are what my brush craves


Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 11:08:30


Post by: Pumpkin


I'd wager they're releasing some variety of walking clock...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 11:43:58


Post by: Snrub


 Supershandy wrote:
Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.
So... It's just acrylic medium like what a dozen other brands sell that you're claiming is "just water with a little something special"?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 11:54:51


Post by: Supershandy


 Snrub wrote:
 Supershandy wrote:
Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.
So... It's just acrylic medium like what a dozen other brands sell that you're claiming is "just water with a little something special"?


Well that's the thing, It doesn't contain acrylic, nor does it contain alcohol, it contains a secret formula that only we know that helps give ultra smooth coats without even trying by enhancing the properties of the paint that's already there.....think of it as a retarder that doesn't thicken your paint, but speeds up the drying time.

We've had a lot of feedback that it has made Army Painter and Scale 75 colours much better to work with, not only in general consistency, but also blending too.

Monkeyswithfire over on Twitch along with Grey paladin Arts are heavy users of it as is Roll1toexplode all ordering 100ml bottles shortly after obtaining samples along with Asset Drop ordering a large amount for their subscribers because they loved using it so much and ended up using the entire sample bottle we'd sent them over anything else they traditionally used.

We're also beginning to see Studios starting to place orders for large amount of it too.

You'll know it's something different when you smell it and taste it...oh yeah, it's non-toxic too so brush lickers will be happy


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 12:05:05


Post by: ingtaer




Um, pretty sure this the News and Rumours thread for GWs latest offering and not the Instar thread guys.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 13:06:28


Post by: fresus


 fasterthanlight wrote:
Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

It's unlikely for sure, but not 100% impossible. If someone out there thought of something new, they might contact a big company like GW to sell them their products, instead of trying to launch it themselves.

They told this stuff is supposed to make painting quicker, which to me completely excludes airbrushes. They're great to get gradients, or put down a base coat, but aren't very useful for tabletop quality if you can already buy a spray can of your base color. It's also a bit complicated to sell this to kids, and as part of their panting system.
Dips could work, but basecoating your whole model and putting a thick coat of agrax or nuln oil already produces something similar. It wouldn't be much of a game changer, unless it comes in a variety of colors that match their existing line pretty well.

So I'm really hoping for something new, that none of us though about.


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Post by: Kdash


Prior to the Contrast video, I had the crazy idea that GW might just be finally launching some kind of painting service, but, I guess they aren’t going down that route now.

I am starting to jump on the train of thought that it’s a new way of painting. One of the things they always say at the paint and terrain seminars is that they are lazy painters and want to do everything possible to make painting as easy as possible for everyone.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 14:22:09


Post by: Theophony


Pre painted plastics just like Confrontation . The deathknell ringeth


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 14:36:39


Post by: Albino Squirrel


Probably not pre-painted. Could be pre-primed, though. Or primed and washed, so it comes ready to paint and already with a gradient.

Of course, you'd still need to touch up the spots where you clip off the sprue.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 14:40:56


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


A leftfield guess,

could they be bringing back some version of these



perhaps on clear acrylic rather than card like a few recent KS projects?

no need to paint, no more grey hordes

unlikely but you never know


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 15:19:57


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Why would they put out products that go against their miniature sets?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 15:46:44


Post by: fresus


How about photo-sensitive paint? A paint that would permanently become brighter if exposed to a UV lamp.
So you paint your model without highlights, then put it under a UV lamp shining from above, and bim, a literal zenithal highlight.

Another variation would be a paint that changes color when exposed to a specific chemical. The change being greater the more concentrated the chemical is. So you paint your whole model with these colors, then wash it with a non-colored wash that contain the chemical of interest. Since it pools in the recesses, it affects these areas a lot more than flat surfaces.
Here, it would affect each color differently, instead of applying the same tint to every surface like you get when you wash everything with black or brown.


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Or a combination of the two: you paint everything with paints that become brighter when exposed to a chemical, and then spray that chemical from above using a spray can.


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Post by: oni


I was in camp Airbrush, but I'm definitely now in camp Dip.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 17:51:14


Post by: ClockworkZion


I'm just going on a limb and put my money on a paint designed for glazing layers for better blends.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 18:21:35


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm going with them starting to offer 'rank and file' units in precolored plastics.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 18:35:19


Post by: ImAGeek


 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm going with them starting to offer 'rank and file' units in precolored plastics.


It shows the paint range logo in both trailers. Coloured plastics isn’t really paint related, so I don’t think it’s that.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 18:37:50


Post by: Theophony


Preprimed miniatures.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 20:07:50


Post by: SickSix


 fasterthanlight wrote:
Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

I'm SO curious though.... when is the reveal?

FTL


Exactly. Remember however that GW lives in a bubble (or at least acts like they do). Nothing exists outside of GW's world. If they have never sold a real airbrush before, then they assume their customers don't even know that tool exists. So for GW, a GW branded airbrush will be groundbreaking!

Eavy Metal painters used all kinds of tools and products behind the curtains a long time but could only publicly show painting techniques using GW paints and brushes.

For everyone that has been using airbrushes, we will continue using them and balk at whatever price GW reveals. For people who live in the GW bubble their minds will be blown and they will jump at the chance to overpay for a midgrade airbrush with GW's logo.


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Post by: Gimgamgoo


Whatever it is, someone probably already makes it. It's probably been slated for years by GW fans, but when GW release it, it will be the best thing since sliced bread, and more expensive than the other brands.


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Post by: BrianDavion


if it is an airbrush that does mean that the GW painting toutorials will allow them to feature an airbrush, which... is proably a good thing as the production quality of the toutorial videos from GW are IMHO better then the other ones on youtube


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 22:53:58


Post by: GoatboyBeta


This blurb from WHC about painting at Warhammer fest
we can reveal that Warhammer Fest will be your first opportunity to get hands-on experience with this awesome something-ness

Makes me think its not an airbrush as I cant see them allowing attendees to mess around with one. Unless GW's idea of hands on is watching a demo.

A dip is IMO more possible. But given the wide range of sizes and shapes in GW's model range I'm not sure how practical it would be.

Of all the ideas I've seen thrown about, paint markers are honestly what I'm now hoping for. With the right range of tip sizes and colours, stuff like recess shading, edge highlighting and freehand designs would become a lot easier(not to mention painting armour trim on models like the AT Titans much less tedious).


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/25 23:45:06


Post by: Ghaz


My guess is new colours of the Nighthaunt Gloom and Hexwraith Flame technical paints.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 00:36:29


Post by: Danny76


It’s definitely not going to be pre primed sprues or anything.
That’s basically one step from coloured plastic (which is irrelevant when you’re painting anyway).
It would be too, once you’ve taken off sprue, and then sorted mold lines, you’ve got big areas that need primer over.
That would only work for heathens who don’t remove mold lines before painting..


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Post by: Albino Squirrel


Danny76 wrote:
It’s definitely not going to be pre primed sprues or anything.
That’s basically one step from coloured plastic (which is irrelevant when you’re painting anyway).
It would be too, once you’ve taken off sprue, and then sorted mold lines, you’ve got big areas that need primer over.
That would only work for heathens who don’t remove mold lines before painting..


Good point. Now, if they invented plastic models with no mold lines, that would be revolutionary. I'd pay maybe twice as much to not have to clean mold lines.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 03:01:30


Post by: Juicifer


 Theophony wrote:
Pre painted plastics just like Confrontation . The deathknell ringeth


I'm pretty sure everyone learned from that tragedy. I hope


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 05:19:41


Post by: hotsauceman1


Except.....GW has shown airbrushing before, in several white dwarfs.
They don't include it in tips or basic painting tutorial because the idea of the YT ones are you gets your brushes z paint and paint a model just sitting at a desk. Nothing super amazing


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 08:01:16


Post by: AndrewGPaul


 SickSix wrote:
 fasterthanlight wrote:
Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

I'm SO curious though.... when is the reveal?

FTL


Exactly. Remember however that GW lives in a bubble (or at least acts like they do). Nothing exists outside of GW's world. If they have never sold a real airbrush before, then they assume their customers don't even know that tool exists.


There's a huge article in the April White Dwarf that says otherwise.

However, the majority of their customers won't use an airbrush. You say that everything they make can be bought elsewhere? True, but then that's the case for a lot of things, and it hasn't stopped other miniatures companies producing their "own" paint and accessories lines (Wargamers Foundry, Privateer Press), or selling rebranded versions of existing paints (Battlefront). It's about convenience and providing everything in one place.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 09:04:53


Post by: Albertorius


Well, whatever it will be, I would expect that the painted mini on the video has it.


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Post by: NoggintheNog


The gundam highlighter idea is the one that fits best I think.

However, AK Interactive have just release a range of pencils for weathering, edge highlights and so on.

They are very user friendly, more so than markers, and would fit the GW approach even better.


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Post by: H


NoggintheNog wrote:
The gundam highlighter idea is the one that fits best I think.

However, AK Interactive have just release a range of pencils for weathering, edge highlights and so on.

They are very user friendly, more so than markers, and would fit the GW approach even better.


Those look pretty neat. In what way are the different than other colored pencils? All I could come across was something saying they are "water-based" and "semi-grease" so I am guessing they are wax not oil based?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 12:35:16


Post by: Strg Alt


 Ghaz wrote:



A second teaser to go along with 'Fifty Shelves of Grey'

Spoiler:



According to Warhammer Community ...

Something big is coming for paint – something we’ve been hinting at for a while now.

At this stage, we can reveal that Warhammer Fest will be your first opportunity to get hands-on experience with this awesome something-ness – and trust us, this is something you’re going to want to check out in-person.


When was the last time I have seen something epic from GW? Ah, it was that great Necromunda video that sold me the game in an instant. Now these are really great teasers and I am wondering what they are up to. Job well done, GW.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 12:42:33


Post by: NoggintheNog


 H wrote:
NoggintheNog wrote:
The gundam highlighter idea is the one that fits best I think.

However, AK Interactive have just release a range of pencils for weathering, edge highlights and so on.

They are very user friendly, more so than markers, and would fit the GW approach even better.


Those look pretty neat. In what way are the different than other colored pencils? All I could come across was something saying they are "water-based" and "semi-grease" so I am guessing they are wax not oil based?


Yes, the way they behave suggests an acrylic type base material rather than an oil.

Its the water soluble part that makes them suitable for even beginner painters, you can remove anything you try, it's not permanent until you put a varnish over the top. To me, that sounds like it fits right in with GW's painting approach.

I


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Post by: gorgon


 Ghaz wrote:
My guess is new colours of the Nighthaunt Gloom and Hexwraith Flame technical paints.


I like this guess a lot. I think it's probably something along those lines.

I don't think GW will get into the business of airbrushes and tanks. And while tools like those highlighters and pencils are neat, GW seems to be hinting the product will help get a lot of models done quickly. Also, the key word in the video is 'contrast'. Dips could fit here, but they already have a range of matte and gloss washes, and I'm not sure what the niche would be for more of the same, other than maybe color matching.

So yeah...that guess seems to cover all bases.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 14:09:02


Post by: AndrewGPaul


They could do with new red and blue Shade colours, as the existing Carroburg Crimson and Drakenhof Nightshade aren't always useful.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 14:13:33


Post by: tneva82


I very much doubt it's just new paint colour or two.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 15:35:24


Post by: Chairman Aeon


It's not going to be pre-primed or molded in colour as that doesn't help with the 50 shelves of grey. Also the choice was between a grey figure and a painted one.

A dip that lightens highlights/edges and darkens recesses. Base coat, dip, profit.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 15:47:58


Post by: AduroT


 AndrewGPaul wrote:
They could do with new red and blue Shade colours, as the existing Carroburg Crimson and Drakenhof Nightshade aren't always useful.


I don’t mind the Nightshade, but Man do they need a better red.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 17:31:16


Post by: BrianDavion


 AduroT wrote:
 AndrewGPaul wrote:
They could do with new red and blue Shade colours, as the existing Carroburg Crimson and Drakenhof Nightshade aren't always useful.


I don’t mind the Nightshade, but Man do they need a better red.


a light blue/grey wash is something thats needed, I've seen a few videos now where they've made a wash by mixing larimen medium withb the fang (or was it russ grey? one of the space wolves paints) and have always thought it a bit odd that if they do that they haven't made a specific wash that is that colour.

this BTW gets us to another guess, maybe they're introducing a bunch of new washes. not huge huge news but could potentially expand options a bit


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 19:12:13


Post by: Ghaz


BrianDavion wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
 AndrewGPaul wrote:
They could do with new red and blue Shade colours, as the existing Carroburg Crimson and Drakenhof Nightshade aren't always useful.


I don’t mind the Nightshade, but Man do they need a better red.


a light blue/grey wash is something thats needed, I've seen a few videos now where they've made a wash by mixing larimen medium withb the fang (or was it russ grey? one of the space wolves paints) and have always thought it a bit odd that if they do that they haven't made a specific wash that is that colour.

this BTW gets us to another guess, maybe they're introducing a bunch of new washes. not huge huge news but could potentially expand options a bit

I suggested that on Facebook in a post for a tutorial that used a grey wash. The answer was that they do make one, you just have to assemble it yourself...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/04/26 20:12:53


Post by: BrianDavion


 Ghaz wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
 AndrewGPaul wrote:
They could do with new red and blue Shade colours, as the existing Carroburg Crimson and Drakenhof Nightshade aren't always useful.


I don’t mind the Nightshade, but Man do they need a better red.


a light blue/grey wash is something thats needed, I've seen a few videos now where they've made a wash by mixing larimen medium withb the fang (or was it russ grey? one of the space wolves paints) and have always thought it a bit odd that if they do that they haven't made a specific wash that is that colour.

this BTW gets us to another guess, maybe they're introducing a bunch of new washes. not huge huge news but could potentially expand options a bit

I suggested that on Facebook in a post for a tutorial that used a grey wash. The answer was that they do make one, you just have to assemble it yourself...


I could make every wash they make myself, doesn't mean I'd not mind skipping a step


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 12:03:54


Post by: buzzedaldrin


The contrast line of paint will be citadel color shift paints. This is why they "have to be seen to be believed."


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 12:07:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


When I were a nipper, Granny Allan once bought me a Strawberry Shortcake colouring in book.

Yet, you didn't use paint. You just brushed water over it, and the colours appeared as if by magic.

That. In plastic.



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 12:13:40


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Hypercolour paints. They change colour as you touch them!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 12:17:58


Post by: GaroRobe


Pre-thinned paints, maybe?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 13:07:46


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Full on, violently 80's neon colours. Colours so loud, nobody can actually tell if the paintjob is any good.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 13:10:51


Post by: Sacredroach


I would love some crazy neon colors. The bright pinks and blues from Reaper are ok, but I want to paint Noise Marines and Relic Knights in colors that hurt the eyes and ears.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 13:20:07


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm hoping at the least that we'll get a few more additions to the technical range ala Nighthaunt Gloom and Hexwraith Flame.

I really could use a blue ala Hexwraith Flame.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 14:20:00


Post by: Kdash


In regards to colour shift paint it won't happen.

The reason for this is because currently all colour shift paints contain some form or level of harmful ingredients, and GW have said that they will never release a product that can't be used by everyone safely.

Or at least that was their stance in regards to paint and colour shift paint last November at the Vigilus Paint seminar.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 14:25:50


Post by: Albino Squirrel


Color shift paints would make sense. except apparently they said they weren't doing them. Unless they found a way to have a similar product that isn't toxic?


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Post by: Kdash


 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Color shift paints would make sense. except apparently they said they weren't doing them. Unless they found a way to have a similar product that isn't toxic?


Well it wasn't in development in November last year, but, they do look at things that get "requested a lot" via email feeback and requests. So, whilst possible they may have found something non-toxic, i'd be incredibly surprised if they managed it.


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Post by: gorgon


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hypercolour paints. They change colour as you touch them!


I cannot confirm or deny that I owned one of these back in the day. Radical!



I still think Ghaz's guess of more Nightgaunt/Hexflame style paints is the best idea I've seen. Seemed like those colors were all over their tutorials for a while.



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 15:02:58


Post by: kendoka


My guess is matched complete paint systems for some factions (i.e. mostly SM and Sigmarines).

Probably three in each set: Spraypaint + drybrush + wash.
Ultramarines, AoS golden whatevers, Skintone, Necron, etc.

The wash with some miracle twist so it only sets in gaps (creating strong Contrast).

Spray white and Contrast-wash black for instant Stormtroopers



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 15:22:14


Post by: oni


I've noticed that GW hasn't been releasing painting guide books like they used to and they have been making a lot of new websites lately. I wonder if "Contrast" is a new website that will be a trove of painting guides and similar content.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 15:41:48


Post by: Danny76


Kdash wrote:
 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Color shift paints would make sense. except apparently they said they weren't doing them. Unless they found a way to have a similar product that isn't toxic?


Well it wasn't in development in November last year, but, they do look at things that get "requested a lot" via email feeback and requests. So, whilst possible they may have found something non-toxic, i'd be incredibly surprised if they managed it.


As in 5 months ago November?
This would have been absolutely in development then.


I can’t see it’s any kind of just paint, like the new technicals being suggested etc.
useful though they would be.

They are bigging it up way too much for a big release.
A new range, like dips, could be.
The airbrush thing yeah.

It is going to be something big enough that it requires this kind of announcement, and that Everyone can use it. On any model.
Get all your Grey painted up fast etc.
colourshift, a few new washes, that just wouldn’t cut it..


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 16:04:36


Post by: zedmeister


What about multi-coloured plastics? You'd assemble them and they'd be pre-coloured though only in basic colours. Quick wash and you're good to go.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 16:08:07


Post by: Crimson


 zedmeister wrote:
What about multi-coloured plastics? You'd assemble them and they'd be pre-coloured though only in basic colours. Quick wash and you're good to go.

No you wouldn't, it would look like crap.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 16:18:39


Post by: kodos


 Crimson wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
What about multi-coloured plastics? You'd assemble them and they'd be pre-coloured though only in basic colours. Quick wash and you're good to go.

No you wouldn't, it would look like crap.


Works quite well for Gundam or similar Anime scale models

Pre-coloured plastics, Wash for blacklining, done.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 16:35:03


Post by: ImAGeek


Regardless, that’s not a paint product, which whatever this is seems to be.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 17:12:31


Post by: BrianDavion


 oni wrote:
I've noticed that GW hasn't been releasing painting guide books like they used to and they have been making a lot of new websites lately. I wonder if "Contrast" is a new website that will be a trove of painting guides and similar content.


already exists in the form of the painting videos on warhammer TV and the citidel painting ap. (which my local GW manager can't reccomend eneugh)


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 18:54:34


Post by: Slipstream


Apologies if someone else has mentioned it, but in last month's Horus Heresy painting guide quite a few of the guides mentioned Airbrush?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 19:43:30


Post by: Obispudkenobi


It's shelf shading and highlighting paint


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 20:24:00


Post by: Flinty


Or painting goblins. GW has actually broken the veil and have managed to enslave a species of house elf that has a great affinity with colour matching and finicky details.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 20:38:48


Post by: Original Timmy


Slipstream wrote:
Apologies if someone else has mentioned it, but in last month's Horus Heresy painting guide quite a few of the guides mentioned Airbrush?

Last months HH painting guide, what is all that about? i seemed to have missed that!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 20:46:27


Post by: Ghaz


 Original Timmy wrote:
Slipstream wrote:
Apologies if someone else has mentioned it, but in last month's Horus Heresy painting guide quite a few of the guides mentioned Airbrush?

Last months HH painting guide, what is all that about? i seemed to have missed that!

It's a Masterclass article by Mark Bedford and Phil Stutcinskas on how the Forge World team paint battle damage and weathering on their tanks, Titans and war machines. They show an airbrush because that's what the Forge World team uses.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 21:42:55


Post by: Original Timmy


 Ghaz wrote:
 Original Timmy wrote:
Slipstream wrote:
Apologies if someone else has mentioned it, but in last month's Horus Heresy painting guide quite a few of the guides mentioned Airbrush?

Last months HH painting guide, what is all that about? i seemed to have missed that!

It's a Masterclass article by Mark Bedford and Phil Stutcinskas on how the Forge World team paint battle damage and weathering on their tanks, Titans and war machines. They show an airbrush because that's what the Forge World team uses.


Thanks, where might i find it?

I do have the hardback vol 1 HH Masterclass book FW did a while back.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 21:44:01


Post by: Ghaz


Last month's White Dwarf.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 23:05:09


Post by: Bossk_Hogg


 kodos wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
What about multi-coloured plastics? You'd assemble them and they'd be pre-coloured though only in basic colours. Quick wash and you're good to go.

No you wouldn't, it would look like crap.


Works quite well for Gundam or similar Anime scale models

Pre-coloured plastics, Wash for blacklining, done.


How does it not bead up and look like ass without paint/primer? Hell, I can't even get regular washes to go on decent half the time.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/02 23:19:41


Post by: Original Timmy


 Ghaz wrote:
Last month's White Dwarf.

Thanks


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Post by: DeadEyeDuk


I think it is some kind of new paint (to GW). I have heard that GW actually brought in chemists and other clever people a while ago to work on genuinely new stuff. Will it be new new, or just new to GW? Hopefully we find out soon.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 09:37:14


Post by: masterdoobie


I reckon it will be some base paints that will have a sort of shade that reacts when applied to it. It would assist with painting power weapons, or simplify shading.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 11:35:59


Post by: Ignispacium


There was a rumour around the time the fiend sprues got leaked on ebay that GW was going to be releasing a 'colour-changing' paint, whatever that means.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 12:56:46


Post by: kodos


 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
 kodos wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
What about multi-coloured plastics? You'd assemble them and they'd be pre-coloured though only in basic colours. Quick wash and you're good to go.

No you wouldn't, it would look like crap.


Works quite well for Gundam or similar Anime scale models

Pre-coloured plastics, Wash for blacklining, done.


How does it not bead up and look like ass without paint/primer? Hell, I can't even get regular washes to go on decent half the time.


This depends on the wash, modified acrylic paint works different than an ink, which works different alcohol or oil based based things
And there are also Acrylic Paint Markers/Fine Liner out there that either come ready to use or are refillable

First Video I found on Google, coloured plastic, no primer or wash and one of those special paint markes sold by Bandai for Gundam models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al-yzZVp1cY

of course this is already an advanced technique but it shows well how something like this would work

there are good examples out there what people can do with historical models by just using an oil based wash


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 16:34:19


Post by: Geifer


 DeadEyeDuk wrote:
I think it is some kind of new paint (to GW). I have heard that GW actually brought in chemists and other clever people a while ago to work on genuinely new stuff. Will it be new new, or just new to GW? Hopefully we find out soon.


Are those chemists mad scientists?

I hope they're mad scientists.

GW could do great things if they hired mad scientists!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 16:43:47


Post by: fasterthanlight


There is talk that its a self shading / highlighting paint, like Hexwraith Flame....

I believe this explains it... sounds about right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRSZc9nY_O4

FTL


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 17:02:27


Post by: Crimson


^ Sounds plausible.



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/03 23:48:19


Post by: deano2099


Citadel’s gloss washes are already magic. They flow just to the recesses and don’t tint the rest of the figure. The only problem is they dry shiny. I reckon it’s that but dries matt, with more colour options.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 16:06:12


Post by: Samko





New video, this time parodying Conan.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 16:31:34


Post by: GoatboyBeta


How on earth is anything going to live up to these adds?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 16:37:32


Post by: Overread


I'm not sure if they tried to model Duncan after Conan or a spaniel - however whatever they did its clear that GW is living in the 80s! This is a GOOD THING!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 17:33:33


Post by: Pilum


 Overread wrote:
its clear that GW is living in the 80s!

To say nothing of the Darkoath and the Warcry models. I swear if they release one that's even vaguely close to a Fabry-era Sláine then I fear for my wallet.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 18:18:14


Post by: BrianDavion


I'm a big fan of conan, and the old 80s moviue has a special place in my heart (it's cheesy and great because of it) so this video made me smile


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 18:23:48


Post by: bullyboy


They just keep getting better and better!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 18:31:05


Post by: BrianDavion


 bullyboy wrote:
They just keep getting better and better!


agreed.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/04 20:36:30


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


 Overread wrote:
I'm not sure if they tried to model Duncan after Conan or a spaniel - however whatever they did its clear that GW is living in the 80s! This is a GOOD THING!

Good music, cool movies, I can live with that!
Hairstyles, though…


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 15:40:58


Post by: Stormonu


The ads are pretty funny, but I expect the actual revealed item will be a bit underwhelming.

They seem to be time traveling backwards with their movie references. Next one should be something from the seventies.

Jaws: “you’re going to need a bigger brush” (could show off the Sea Elf models...)
Star Wars: “We’re a paint commission service that paints models for gamers...”
“If you paint people’s models, where are your Citadel Colors?”


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 15:46:05


Post by: A Town Called Malus


Alien: "Under paint, no one can see your seam"


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 16:02:12


Post by: Togusa


Conana is great, but being May 4th, I feel they really missed an opportunity to do a Star Wars joke.

Alien, Back to the Future and The Princess Bride would all make great follow ups!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 21:19:15


Post by: insaniak


"Good night, Westley. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely paint you in the morning."


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 21:32:12


Post by: timetowaste85


“Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You gave me a pile of grey minis. Prepare to die.”


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 21:50:10


Post by: Overread


Contrast!

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/07 21:52:52


Post by: Valander


 Overread wrote:
Contrast!

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Exalted, not just for the reference but also the likelihood that the revealed product will be underwhelming in comparison to the hype.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/08 02:34:59


Post by: SlaveToDorkness


"I seems they are talking a lot about Contraaast....

[Fezick voice] "I really hope it's not disappointing when they reveal it, at Laaast "


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 01:51:58


Post by: Azreal13


Something that appears to be from a Japanese GW store FB page. Seems to be a demo of new "contrast paints." There's other pics, but this is the most promising in terms of identifying what the new thing is.

[Thumb - FB_IMG_1557539313143.jpg]


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 01:57:03


Post by: Chikout


Here's the whole picture. It's definitely a new range of paints. The woman is a well known painter in Japan. She is demoing contrast paints today. That pretty much confirms what it is.

[Thumb - IMG_20190511_105446.jpg]


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 02:03:22


Post by: Crimson


I am genuinely exited about new paints!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 02:38:19


Post by: oni


Was not expecting a whole new line of paint.

They’re all in the large Shade pots too so I guess that means they’ll be around $9 a pot. Unfortunate.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 03:19:47


Post by: timd


So, looks like eight colors (on the poster and in the first pic)? Think these will be something similar to the Shades? How might they be different?

T


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 03:27:56


Post by: Ghaz


timd wrote:
So, looks like eight colors (on the poster and in the first pic)? Think these will be something similar to the Shades? How might they be different?

T

I believe they'll be something like the Hexwraith Flame technical paint they released last year.

Spoiler:





We should know soon...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 03:30:54


Post by: insaniak


timd wrote:
So, looks like eight colors (on the poster and in the first pic)? Think these will be something similar to the Shades? How might they be different?

T

The poster appears to be just general paint techniques, and has a mix of different stuff in those 8 pots.

All of the pots on the table are labeled 'Contrast'... So more than 8.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 03:31:56


Post by: Mothman




another version spotted on twitter https://twitter.com/Sieg_Ogre/status/1127026881306304513?s=20


google translated tweet

"So, from the scene of the Shizuoka Hobby Show ... It seems that Citadel's new color series "Contrast" is a paint that adds a base, a shade and a layer. Just paint it and it's finished with a shade on the base color. There is also saturation, so it's beautiful. It seems to be a comingsoon (lol)"


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 03:49:32


Post by: Azreal13


So.. it's ink?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:09:22


Post by: Whumbachumba


This has popped up also.



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:12:28


Post by: Kanluwen


Examples:
Spoiler:




'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:13:00


Post by: insaniak


 Azreal13 wrote:
So.. it's ink?

Yup, sounds like a coloured ink to go over a pale undercoat.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:18:01


Post by: cole1114


It's quickshade! Just like the army painter stuff. Basically it's shade that does the work of highlighting the model, good for when you need to batch paint a bunch of less important troops.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:18:09


Post by: timd


 insaniak wrote:
timd wrote:
So, looks like eight colors (on the poster and in the first pic)? Think these will be something similar to the Shades? How might they be different?

T

The poster appears to be just general paint techniques, and has a mix of different stuff in those 8 pots.

All of the pots on the table are labeled 'Contrast'... So more than 8.


Thanks, so it looks like 27 new colors.

That pic of the undead horseman looks pretty interesting. If it was painted completely with the new paints it looks like it was painted over a white basecoat.

T


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:24:04


Post by: Kanluwen


Knight of Shrouds was done with the new "Wraithbone" primer.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:28:12


Post by: insaniak


 Kanluwen wrote:
Examples:
Spoiler:



So, yes, pretty much the same effect you can get with Army Painter inks or quickshades.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 04:52:39


Post by: timd



Pic links broken...


 Kanluwen wrote:
Examples:
Spoiler:




'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:00:09


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


Nothing too revolutionary, but still great for those new to the hobby or younger gamers to get their models painted up to a basic level and they can get better at painting from there. I am sure that the great painters will point out some more advanced uses for these too. That said it proves that power armour generally looks poor when painted with a wash/contrast paint.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:11:11


Post by: AduroT


I want all of them. Unfortunately my current paint box is completely full already...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:14:43


Post by: straken619


Yes it looks like quickshade but easier.
I believe you spray your miniature with the undercoat and then paint with these colors and you are done. These colors look like they are darker in the recesses and lighter on the edges (and that explains the name Contrast). So you just paint all the different colors and your miniature is ready.
It seems better than quickshade but still not for me. A big part of the hobby for me is painting but for the people that collect armies after armies for warhammer 40k that will really help them with all the grey models.

They are making it easier and easier for people to start playing gw games with all these new products but lets not forget why we are here in the first place. How about some new miniatures for a non-Space Marine army?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:19:15


Post by: ingtaer


That was a lot of build up just for some inks but there look to be some really useful colours there (that Camo green especially). Still using up my inks from the mega paint set of the late 90s!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:22:03


Post by: Danny76


I have dozens of unopened pots of the old Brown Ink to go through


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:23:07


Post by: insaniak


 ingtaer wrote:
That was a lot of build up just for some inks but there look to be some really useful colours there (that Camo green especially).

Yeah, coloured inks are always handy... it will be interesting to see what colours fall outside Army Painter's range, to potentially supplement the collection a little.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:51:31


Post by: drbored


Thank goodness it wasnt an airbrush or a dip.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:54:42


Post by: hotsauceman1


Its kinda like dip, where more organic models look better.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 07:55:53


Post by: Snrub


Are these going to be in any way different to the old GW inks, or are these a different type of ink?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 08:11:08


Post by: Xanthos


I can see a few uses or these already, to be honest. I think I'll grab some and test them on variously varnished surfaces, to see how I can replicate the undercoat's effect on limited areas, using an airbrush. I suspect it's either about the porousness or roughness of the undercoat, but we'll know more soon, I guess. :-)


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 08:40:27


Post by: insaniak


drbored wrote:
Thank goodness it wasnt an airbrush or a dip.

Indeed. Turns out we were all over thinking it...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 08:50:32


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Very nice.

Might just get met doing Savage Orcs again!

Wonder how these would handle a second wash being applied?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:08:03


Post by: kodos


So nothing new but they bring their own old colours

You were able to do the exact same thing with the old Washes before (which were identical to the Army Painter ones) and with the much older Inks (but with a glossy look).

Juhuh nothing changes but we got some nice videos


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:11:36


Post by: DaveC





and more info

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/10/warhammer-fest-uk-2019-live-bloggw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-1/



Colours shown so far

Iyanden Yellow
Nazdreg Yellow
Guilliman Flesh
Apothecary White
Black Templar
Skeleton Horde
Athermatic Blue
Talassar Blue
Ultramarines Blue
Akhelian Green
Militarum Green
Flesh Tearers Red
Blood Angels Red
Snakebite Leather
Gore Grunta Fur
Plague Bearer Flesh
Warp Lightning
Leviadon Blue
Fyreslayer Flesh
Darkoath Flesh
Space Wolves Grey
Shyish Purple
Magos Purple
Basilicanum Grey
Dark Angels Green
Terradon Turquoise


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:16:34


Post by: tneva82


Love the one thick coat line.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:16:36


Post by: Ketara


I spot some old names making a comeback there...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:19:13


Post by: zedmeister


 Ketara wrote:
I spot some old names making a comeback there...


Indeed. Snakebite Leather, how I've missed thee


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:24:52


Post by: Sotahullu


Gonna try atleast.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:29:08


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Hey look, colours with names that make sense! Well done GW.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:29:39


Post by: lord_blackfang


Much ado about nothing.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:38:30


Post by: Do_I_Not_Like_That


I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out

But if I were a beginner, with some cash to burn, these would be alright.

On a slightly related note, is it just me, or does anybody else have a problem of old citadel inks giving off a strange smell? I had to chuck out a few pots of old citadel Ogryn flesh the other day, because they stunk to high heaven. And these were always stored in a cool dry place, so it's not like dampness got to them or something. Very strange.

Maybe the paint is just breaking down after these years?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 09:46:18


Post by: kodos


 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out


Army Painter is the same (as are some others) so no need to wait you could have already orderd them months ago....


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:05:18


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


I love the Two crossed and One written next to it on the whiteboard at the start of the video!


If there really wasn't *any* highlighting done after the fact, I am impressed by how much the edges stand out.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:10:15


Post by: Fifty


I'll definitely make use of these for painting marines. My Eldar will probably keep getting a full treatment, but this seems like a great way to paint up Howling Griffons and/or Deathwatch. I'll find it difficult to decide how to paint my GSC. Probably stick to the old-fashioned way.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:12:28


Post by: tneva82


Well. Whenever i start new army might try these so likely with daemons. Can't hurt to try


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:28:26


Post by: Irbis


 kodos wrote:
So nothing new but they bring their own old colours

You were able to do the exact same thing with the old Washes before (which were identical to the Army Painter ones) and with the much older Inks (but with a glossy look).

Juhuh nothing changes but we got some nice videos

 kodos wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out

Army Painter is the same (as are some others) so no need to wait you could have already orderd them months ago....

Denial is pretty strong here, eh?

Please show one AP paint that dries differently in the recesses, never mind doing the highlight thing and pretty nice gradients. If GW photo is really single layer of blue that wasn't touched in any way, the whole AP range is now completely obsolete and they can roll up business. And that is with something with big flat surfaces that are pretty unfriendly for this, the lizardmen and demons from the other thread look even better.

90% of my paint purchases last year were Vallejo but with this range, I just might try revisiting GW offerings again


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:39:38


Post by: Ratius


Looks like a new spray can too? "Wraith Bone?"


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:43:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Seems there are two base sprays specifically for these paints. Wrauthbone is one of them.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:47:12


Post by: Yodhrin


 kodos wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out


Army Painter is the same (as are some others) so no need to wait you could have already orderd them months ago....


I'll buy a pair to compare them before drawing a final conclusion, but as of yet I've never used a single Army Painter product that's made me want to buy-in to their range in comparison to Citadel or Vallejo. Their paints are extremely hit & miss, many end up chalky if you thin them to a glaze(even using acrylic medium rather than water), and their washes are...eh.


In theory, these Contrast paints could be very useful for the way I paint, but I'll have to see how they react to a zenithal undercoat, how they mix with the existing washes, and what happens when you add more paint over the top of them. If they're as simple & easy as described, it could eliminate two or three steps from my zenithal undercoat>multiple block colour washes/glazes>multiple shade and highlight washes/glazes>final touches process, which would be welcome as I far prefer making and using models to painting them.

And hell, if it works as advertised, the concept is worth it for the one designed to do white alone. If they've actually made decent white armour as easy as spray white>apply "white" contrast paint>maybe chuck an edge highlight on there, they deserve a Nobel Peace Prize or something.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:48:08


Post by: deano2099


It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:49:54


Post by: Scottywan82


 Ratius wrote:
Looks like a new spray can too? "Wraith Bone?"


And it appears to have some link to the Contrast paints. Maybe it has some sort of surface tension that better enables the shade/layer/highlight effect? I am curious how it interacts with their current paint range.

These also look very reminiscent of the new Nighthaunt paints. I cannot wait to see how those behave on this new primer.


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deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.


Read my mind, lol.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:50:20


Post by: Yodhrin


deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.


I mean, it's entirely possible it's just glossy, or very very satin, in which case a blast of varnish after a regular undercoat will have a similar effect.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:51:07


Post by: Overread


They've not made mention that it requires a specific undercoat spray - the new sprays could just be new subtle colour blends for use.


Also I wonder what, if any, effect the different undercoats would have on regular paints.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 10:53:37


Post by: Argive


Interesting.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:01:28


Post by: Kanluwen


From the Heralds of War Twitter feed:
Spoiler:




All done using just the Contrast stuff apparently. From the sounds of it, the spray is a pure white color rather than the off-white that Corax is, and it's less prone to 'roughing' than Corax can be with temperature/humidity.

Bad Dice Podcast:
Spoiler:




He commented that it took him 5 minutes and the colors are pretty fast drying.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:04:44


Post by: Scottywan82


 Kanluwen wrote:
From the Heralds of War Twitter feed:
Spoiler:




All done using just the Contrast stuff apparently. From the sounds of it, the spray is a pure white color rather than the off-white that Corax is, and it's less prone to 'roughing' than Corax can be with temperature/humidity.

Bad Dice Podcast:
Spoiler:




He commented that it took him 5 minutes and the colors are pretty fast drying.


Damn. That gold looks amazing. If they want all my money, though, give me the ancient gold for the Black Legion trim in one of those Contrast colors. I will literally stab someone to get my hands on that.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:07:16


Post by: DaveC


The other spray is Grey Seer the small bottles are varnish 1 is ardcoat the other I can't see the name of its something shield

from Garro's facebook



Spoiler:


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:13:36


Post by: dyndraig


Wash painting isn't exactly revolutionary, but it will be interesting to see if this can add something new to the method.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:19:22


Post by: Scottywan82


 DaveC wrote:
Spoiler:
The other spray is Grey Seer the small bottles are varnish 1 is ardcoat the other I can't see the name of its something shield

from Garro's facebook



Spoiler:


Good catch! Looks like the other Technical paint is called Stormshield. I'm guessing it's a matte or satin varnish?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 11:19:53


Post by: Redemption


 DaveC wrote:
I can't see the name of its something shield

Stormshield, most likely.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:24:02


Post by: Redemption


Garro on Facebook posted a lot of pictures of models painted with the Contrast range
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Garro30k/photos/

Some interesting picks that show how it looks on larger models and fleshtones:

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'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:26:15


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Looks like they’re a wee bit blotchy on larger areas. But, given what you achieve with a single coat, shouldn’t be too hard to tidy it up once dried.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:29:47


Post by: Crimson


I am impressed. They obviously look a tad rough, but this is an easy way to get a decent tabletop ready army quickly, or a solid starting point for doing more advanced stuff.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:37:14


Post by: Mr_Rose


Next thing you know, they’ll announce something like ‘we painted all of these yesterday’ while pointing to the cabinet ‘just to see if we could.’


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:39:03


Post by: Overread


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks like they’re a wee bit blotchy on larger areas. But, given what you achieve with a single coat, shouldn’t be too hard to tidy it up once dried.


IT might also be that they more heavily painted to get that blotchy effect as well; giving quick texture to open clear areas of the model. Might not look as good on vehicles, but on living creatures I can see it being a major boon.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:49:51


Post by: Nevelon


Looking at some of those capes, I think these might be the new way I paint robes, capes, and tabards. I’ve got enough time invested in my armies that I’m not going to switch gears. No way will the color match be specific to how I’ve been doing things. But for accents, I’d love these for finicky things like blending up fabrics to look halfway decent.

Interested in the stormsheild technical paint. I don’t seal my minis, so am a little worried about decals rubbing off. If I could just slap a layer of that over the area, and not have it look different then the rest of the mini, I’d gladly add that as a final step to my process.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:50:22


Post by: Kanluwen


I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

If it looks nice, my Stygies Skitarii are going to get a hell of a lot fancier quick.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:50:48


Post by: kodos


 Irbis wrote:
 kodos wrote:
So nothing new but they bring their own old colours

You were able to do the exact same thing with the old Washes before (which were identical to the Army Painter ones) and with the much older Inks (but with a glossy look).

Juhuh nothing changes but we got some nice videos

 kodos wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I'll wait a few months until the non-union, Vallejo equivalent comes out

Army Painter is the same (as are some others) so no need to wait you could have already orderd them months ago....

Denial is pretty strong here, eh?


lack of memory too it seems

Citadel Washes, before GW replaced them with Shades were meant to do the same thing as Contrast, but with a limited colour range

This was the reason why Vallejo and Army Painter came up with coloured Washes (instead of Black and Brown) in the first place.

Original GW picture for Wash over White Primer in 2011


There was also the Tutorial for different Orc Skin using different combinations, like 1 layer pure Green for Grots, 2 layers Green for Boys, 1 layer Purple + 1 layer Green for Nobz/Boss while you can still see old Box images were Orc Skin is just a layer of Green Wash


Nothing new but just e revamp of an old product that was replaced by something different and 3rd party products filled the gap




Big difference is now that we get finally a non-pure white Primer from GW and a wider range of colours than in the past.
But nothing new a ground breaking


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:57:29


Post by: sockwithaticket


Results look pretty average to me. If I had to get a bunch of clanrats or guardsmen done I might use these, but otherwise nah.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 12:59:46


Post by: Redemption


 Kanluwen wrote:
I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

If it looks nice, my Stygies Skitarii are going to get a hell of a lot fancier quick.


You mean the Black Templar paint? Only seen this one so far, besides the one in the big paint rack.

Spoiler:



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:00:41


Post by: insaniak


 Kanluwen wrote:
I haven't seen anything done up in straight black, anyone seen any yet?

There's the couple of guys in the top right of the rainbow marine pic, but they're a bit blurry.

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:00:56


Post by: Kanluwen


WITCHCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome. I'm very interested. I wonder if this is why they've been using Mechanicus Standard Grey so much lately in the tutorials as basecoats?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:01:11


Post by: Gael Knight


https://twitter.com/AstartesIneptus/status/1127195061907861505
Genestealer Cult army painted with contrast according to the wee sign.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:01:51


Post by: Crimson


 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:03:20


Post by: Pantasticus


 Yodhrin wrote:
deano2099 wrote:
It’s a specific primer for Contrast. That’s what most people are missing here- you have to use that undercoat to get the effect. Presumably it has a specific property that helps provide that highlight effect by repelling paint from raised surfaces.


I mean, it's entirely possible it's just glossy, or very very satin, in which case a blast of varnish after a regular undercoat will have a similar effect.


Im at Warhammer Fest now. The contrast paints do look excellent, reception is very positive, you can use them with standard paints to create good blending effects as well. There are two ‘contrast specific’ primers, one white, one grey (looks much the same as unpainted plastic), which is designed to work with the contrast paints and give the best result, but you can use any undercoat you like, it will still work pretty well.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:18:22


Post by: Nevelon


 Crimson wrote:
 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.


It would be interesting to see how they worked over a silver basecoat. I guess the big question is how dependent they are on the new basecoats. If you lay them down over any base, a lot more options open up.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:21:58


Post by: kodos


 Crimson wrote:
 insaniak wrote:

Interesting to note that they appear to be just using grey and yellow in place of metallics.

I don't think that these sort of paints could work as metallic.


old Washes worked good if mixed with Mithril Silver or over a light Silver base, so no reason why it should be different


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 Irbis wrote:

Please show one AP paint that dries differently in the recesses, never mind doing the highlight thing and pretty nice gradients.


took me awhile to find it, but here are some old models I painted years ago
Only Army Painter Washes over White Primer were used (except for metal that got a silver base coat and the haqqislam bases which were try brashed)

Spoiler:






'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:36:33


Post by: Tamereth


Will work fine on organic models, and a good tool to have but

Looks terrible on flat surfaces. Space marines are not the type of model you should be painting like this.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:37:24


Post by: pogey


I could see smashing out some scenery that i would be very happy with with this stuff


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:39:45


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Paints seem interesting. I'll give 'em a go.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:44:16


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


The "metallics" and flesh tones look poor to me, but anything that makes it easier for people to get into the hobby is a good thing. Will certainly give the odd colour a try on miniatures where they should work best.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:45:14


Post by: Tannhauser42


I may have to give these a try. Looking at some of the other pictures, there are purple and grey options, too.
I wonder how well you can mix them, though?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 13:57:47


Post by: Theophony


Interested in the white. That should be....different.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 14:30:18


Post by: Yodhrin


According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 14:36:45


Post by: sockwithaticket


 Yodhrin wrote:
According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.



Really? Regular undercoat and 3 or 4 layerswould do it imo.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 14:41:59


Post by: Sotahullu


The more I see, more I like it.

Although any metal is going to get painted separately.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 14:44:19


Post by: Theophony


 sockwithaticket wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
According to this twitter post, the pictured Horror was literally undercoat>contrast>one highlight. That's genuinely impressive; that effect would take a two-tone zenithal undercoat and 4-6 layers of washes/shades/glazes to achieve using existing paints. And that single extra highlight layer really improves the contrast paint effect.



Really? Regular undercoat and 3 or 4 layerswould do it imo.


I’m not an onion or an ogre, I don’t do layers. these paints are made specifically for me .


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 14:56:59


Post by: puma713


Looks like this would make yellows easier. One undercoat and either one or two layers of Contrast might make churning out Imperial Fists or Badmoons less intimidating.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 15:08:36


Post by: Scottywan82


 puma713 wrote:
Looks like this would make yellows easier. One undercoat and either one or two layers of Contrast might make churning out Imperial Fists or Badmoons less intimidating.


I was thinking the same thing for the temple guard blue/baharroth blue/ulthuan grey glow blending. I think it's really going to shine with bright schemes. Vivid blues, greens, yellows. I bet orange looks good too.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 15:32:53


Post by: Breotan


Some of these models have a "dipped" look to them so I'd have to think about when/where to use this stuff. Still, as a fast and easy way to get your troops done it seems to be a good idea.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 15:46:58


Post by: Alexonian


very intrigued, wonder how long until they release


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 15:48:50


Post by: Theophony


 Alexonian wrote:
very intrigued, wonder how long until they release


It says June, so I’m guessing a few weeks .


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 15:50:56


Post by: Alexonian


 Theophony wrote:
 Alexonian wrote:
very intrigued, wonder how long until they release


It says June, so I’m guessing a few weeks .


ah missed that, that's treat news, will hold of painting my slaanesh stuff for a while then


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:10:25


Post by: Peregrine


Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:17:00


Post by: Ghaz


 Peregrine wrote:
Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.

I imagine it will see some use by the more experienced painters. I'm especially interested to see what some of these Contrast paints look like over something other than a white undercoat (I'm thinking a bright green over Stormhost Silver would look good for Necron Warscythes).


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:24:45


Post by: Voss


 Peregrine wrote:
Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.


I doubt that very much. Given the way they're trying to sell it as a simple two step process (contrast/technical, with the latter being the base), they're conveniently skipping over all the detail work that remains essentially unchanged (trim, guns, pouches, eyes, etc). The kind of people who didn't paint, didn't avoid it because of shades and highlights- they didn't really know or care about them. They just didn't like doing the work or dealing with the fiddly bits. All that is still there.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:31:40


Post by: TheCustomLime


I like the contrast paints. For organic shapes and fabrics they seem like they will take a lot of the layering process out of it. I might try it out to finally paint my Empire army.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:36:09


Post by: puma713


Voss wrote:
 Peregrine wrote:
Well, at least we've officially removed any excuse for not having fully painted armies. Not sure if they'll be much use for people painting to a higher standard, but it doesn't get any easier than a single coat for base/highlight/shade all at once.


I doubt that very much. Given the way they're trying to sell it as a simple two step process (contrast/technical, with the latter being the base), they're conveniently skipping over all the detail work that remains essentially unchanged (trim, guns, pouches, eyes, etc). The kind of people who didn't paint, didn't avoid it because of shades and highlights- they didn't really know or care about them. They just didn't like doing the work or dealing with the fiddly bits. All that is still there.


While that may be true, I tend to agree with Peregrine here in that this is an easy way to get your army to tabletop, 3-color minimum. Some people hate painting, but they don't want to lose points in a tournament for having a grey army. This paint line speaks directly to them. Slather this stuff on your Orks' skin, your Orks' pants and their weapons and suddenly, you have a tabletop "legal" army that looks halfway decent. I know at least one person who this line is perfect for for this very reason. They don't care too much about how good the little bits look, as long as they have color on them.

Furthermore, it eliminates yet another barrier to entry, even if it is only a perceived one. A new player that buys a box can easily get a few Contrast pots, paint up their battleforce and get playing with something they're happy with rather than struggling through the learning curve of miniature painting. They can always go back and touch up the details - but it lets them get going quicker, which is always good.




'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:46:15


Post by: Galef


I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.

Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon

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'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 16:54:52


Post by: Ghaz


 Galef wrote:
I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.

Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon

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This sounds like it's totally different than just thinning your paints with Lahmian Medium.




'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 17:54:04


Post by: timd


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems there are two base sprays specifically for these paints. Wrauthbone is one of them.



Looks like the undercoat colors are a warm off-white and a cool off-white for use as basecoats for warm and cool colors respectively.

T


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 17:59:07


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I saw them today. I am impressed although I'd need to explore their uses for advanced painting, not just speed painting armies. But I was informed the eavy metal team had been playing with techniques using them so that should be interesting.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 18:10:16


Post by: PourSpelur


So GeeDub reinvented semi-gloss undercoat and Les Bursley's Magic Wash, correct?
Not smack talking, it's an excellent combo and my "go to" method. Nice to see it easily available and prepackaged, lowers the barrier to entry. Just a bit odd to see people so stoked for a method that's pretty old and (I had thought) pretty well known.
Either way, I'll try it out. See if the ease of not mixing my own is worth the added cost. Cool add to the line!


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 18:14:16


Post by: Ghaz


Lady Atia has posted a large number of example pics of models painted with the Contrast paints on War of Sigmar



'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 18:15:37


Post by: Geifer


I'll buy one or two and give them a try. Never a bad idea to have another way of painting brown. Might be cool to give white a try as well. Anything to get those Stormtroopers painted...


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 19:14:59


Post by: Galef


 Ghaz wrote:
 Galef wrote:
I can't help thinking you can achieve the same effect by mixing Lahmean medium with whatever color you need. But I guess if you have a big project, these would keep the "mix" consistent.

Glad they're available for people, but I doubt I'll get any soon

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This sounds like it's totally different than just thinning your paints with Lahmian Medium.
I've been using Lahmean medium to mix heavily with my layer paints for months now. If you get the mix juuuust right, they achieve a similar affect to all the sample models we've seen.

That blue horror for example. I can mix a blue layer paint with Lahmean medium and coat it over a white primer horror and do the same thing.
The only bonus I see personally for the Contrast paints is that the mix is consistent each time you use it over have try and get that perfect ratio of layer paint to Medium.

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'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 19:35:20


Post by: GaroRobe


The models I want to see tutorials for with these paints.
*Plaguebearers

*Squigs.
With Looncurse being 100% squig heavy, it would be great to paint them fast and have them look good.

The cave trolls are really the only models that stand out as looking great, the rest don't look bad by any means. And seeing as how I never paint 90% of what I buy, this is a boon for lazy painters like me.


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 19:38:27


Post by: DanceOfSlaanesh


I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.

Everything is just one layer of paint.



Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 19:41:27


Post by: Ghaz


GaroRobe wrote:
The models I want to see done are:
*Plaguebearers (though, these models are usually just a white undercoat and a few washes)

*Squigs.
With Looncurse being 100% squig heavy, it would be great to paint them fast and have them look good.

Check the LINK to War of Sigmar that I posted earlier.for some squigs (of the regular and Mangler varieties).


'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- see page#8 @ 2019/05/11 19:59:39


Post by: puig2233


 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.

Everything is just one layer of paint.



Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?


what paint range did you use?