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Post by: BrookM
 keltikhoa wrote:No no no.
all you naysayers are crazy
the expensive and professional camera setup is being used to take the pic of a guy taking a pic.
You can tell by the awesome light and grain filters they used.
the only thing better would be if there was a professional video crew recording the guy taking the pictures of the guy taking pics of the models. It would be like Inception! 
Worst of all, it all makes sense.
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Post by: migooo
 Haljin wrote:
.. are they taking their store/update/promo photos with a tablet?
That explains allot then.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That particular mini is going to be hell in metal. It'll be very easy to break... so glad I didn't get it.
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Post by: Azazelx
I can't tell which one it is?
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Post by: BrookM
Looks like one of the psykers.
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Post by: Azazelx
Haljin wrote:
Why BS? Just look at RH. They clearly have no idea how to run a business. They know how to sculpt , they are really good at it, but they fail at every other aspect. I think it' s mostly because it seems so easy - just sculpt a few things, cast it and send it off. Then money starts flowing your way, you have to do stretch goals (after all everybody has them!) and you start promising more and more not thinking much about how can you deliver this on time. I think it's mostly due to lack of experience on how to run such projects.
You realise that Raging Heroes have been in business for more than a couple of years preceding this KS, right? By all accounts they were doing ok at the least. These aren't the first models they've created under their own banner in order to sell.
The issues at work here are clearly over-confidence, poor overall communication (they're fine via email, but the updates are awful) and most of all - an incredibly over-ambitious project for their own timeline. I hope for their own sake that they complete this project to 100% before starting their next one - and perhaps tone down the scale and overpromising by just a tad. Maybe 80%? 
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Post by: Haljin
 Azazelx wrote: Haljin wrote:
Why BS? Just look at RH. They clearly have no idea how to run a business. They know how to sculpt , they are really good at it, but they fail at every other aspect. I think it' s mostly because it seems so easy - just sculpt a few things, cast it and send it off. Then money starts flowing your way, you have to do stretch goals (after all everybody has them!) and you start promising more and more not thinking much about how can you deliver this on time. I think it's mostly due to lack of experience on how to run such projects.
You realise that Raging Heroes have been in business for more than a couple of years preceding this KS, right? By all accounts they were doing ok at the least. These aren't the first models they've created under their own banner in order to sell.
The issues at work here are clearly over-confidence, poor overall communication (they're fine via email, but the updates are awful) and most of all - an incredibly over-ambitious project for their own timeline. I hope for their own sake that they complete this project to 100% before starting their next one - and perhaps tone down the scale and overpromising by just a tad. Maybe 80%?
Oh yes, I'm perfectly aware of that.  To me at least running a good business is also knowing what your limitations are and they clearly got carried away as we seem both to agree on. Too rapid expansion can kill companies and as much as RH has been an annoyance, I would not like to see them go. They do make some quality stuff. It just seems they cannot really handle the scale.
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Post by: migooo
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:That particular mini is going to be hell in metal. It'll be very easy to break... so glad I didn't get it.
Ill let you knows know how it is then.
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Post by: RoninXiC
From the KS comments
"Thanks for contacting us.
We are currently finalizing the production of the 2nd wave. Our foundry is really busy with all the troops right now as it represents a good amount of minis to cast at once.
After that, the 3rd wave will be faster and easier.
Hopefully, we will be ready to start the 2nd wave at the end of the month .
Does it help?
Cheers,
Ana
Raging Heroes Team"
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Post by: Yodhrin
RoninXiC wrote:From the KS comments
"Thanks for contacting us.
We are currently finalizing the production of the 2nd wave. Our foundry is really busy with all the troops right now as it represents a good amount of minis to cast at once.
After that, the 3rd wave will be faster and easier.
Hopefully, we will be ready to start the 2nd wave at the end of the month .
Does it help?
Cheers,
Ana
Raging Heroes Team"
Wait whut? So troops are back into Wave 2 now? I thought they'd pushed all the troops to Wave 3 except for the snipers, and they'd be sending out Wave 2 packages as soon as those were ready. Also, that's 2015 for Wave 2 confirmed then, for most people at least, because no way in hell are packages sent from France at the end of November going to arrive before Christmas anywhere except in France.
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Post by: BrookM
Everything you've been told is a lie..
#ohwait #differentcompany
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Post by: Alpharius
#howlateisthisonenow?
All kidding aside, well...I don't know.
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Post by: BrookM
To quote the always amazing Billy Dee Williams: This deal's getting worse all the time.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Man, betwee this campaign and Dreamforge, I am on such a nostalgia-fueled Golden Girls binge right now.
Thank you for being a friend.
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Post by: migooo
Why does this thread remind me of one long alcohol fulled bender?
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Post by: BrookM
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:Man, betwee this campaign and Dreamforge, I am on such a nostalgia-fueled Golden Girls binge right now.
Thank you for being a friend.
For me it's KD:M and this one!
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Post by: chaos0xomega
I guess Ill be waiting a while longer for my connoiseur box :/
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
How many entendres did you intend for this sentence to have?
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Post by: chaos0xomega
errr.... none?
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Post by: BrookM
The super fancy primo gak that's not meant for regular painting peasants. 
edit.
All 38 Heroines in high quality casts made from hand-poured resin, with a numbered certificate of authenticity + A 54mm scale edition of Nephahrya in a high quality cast made from hand-poured resin with a numbered certificate of authenticity + A signed and numbered full-colour, printed version of the TGG digital artbook + A 5 hour webinar with the Raging Heroes team (in english and in 2 parts) in which you'll discover how we conceive, develop, and sculpt Raging Heroes miniatures. Includes all unlocked Freebies.
Estimated delivery: May 2014
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Post by: Alpharius
A 5 hour webinar with the Raging Heroes team (in english and in 2 parts) in which you'll discover how we conceive, develop, and sculpt Raging Heroes miniatures.
The details from that could be...interesting.
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Post by: Breotan
Well, I'm last in whatever pecking order this stuff is. So, before Bretonnians or after?
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
 Breotan wrote:Well, I'm last in whatever pecking order this stuff is. So, before Bretonnians or after?
Between Brettonians and Sisters of Battle i think 
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
 Alpharius wrote:A 5 hour webinar with the Raging Heroes team (in english and in 2 parts) in which you'll discover how we conceive, develop, and sculpt Raging Heroes miniatures.
The details from that could be...interesting.
They'll start the webinar and then stop and tell you they have to restart it from scratch, and it'll be better next time. That'll go on for at least three iterations and then you'll feth off because you're such a lowly peasant, like the rest of us.
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Post by: Siygess
Alpharius wrote:A 5 hour webinar with the Raging Heroes team (in english and in 2 parts) in which you'll discover how we conceive, develop, and sculpt Raging Heroes miniatures.
The details from that could be...interesting.
I actually paid to attend that and it was, IMHO, actually interesting, especially if you went in to that with little to no knowledge of ZBrush. Sadly, there was nothing in the ~5 hour session that I saw that supports the crazy theories I see in this thread everyday
Edit: Attending the webinar was a pledge level unto itself and it was also available as an add-on. It wasn't just for the masochists suckers backers who went for the connoisseur box
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Post by: Jimsolo
I liked Nertha's look before they toned down the pregnant belly.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
I missed the webinar unfortunately.
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Post by: Thor665
 Jimsolo wrote:I liked Nertha's look before they toned down the pregnant belly.
I actually second this - I had plans for her in my Slaanesh Lost and Damned army.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Well, assuming this isn't another "80% incident", I can finally breathe a sigh of relief as I'll be done & dusted as soon as they get the Snipers in and post them with the rest of my metal heroines.
My involvement with any future KS run by this company will be limited to admiring the lovely concept art and wondering how many of the final models will actually resemble those depictions after they've been "artisté'd".
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Post by: rayphoton
I must be "delivery time delayed" jaded cause I never really felt a sense of irritation at how long this took.
I'll probably shovel too much money at the next KS.
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Post by: RoninXiC
They never told us any date for the final deliverey.. at least not in this update. All they said was that the troopers are late by the factor of 2 to 3. No word about the rest of the miniatures.
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Post by: Haljin
Groan, I don't even feel like reading through that wall of text...
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Post by: BrookM
Link to the new update: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/posts/1048482
And what's discussed:
All the Sculpting is Done!!!!!!!
So, What are We Doing Now?
Shipping Update
Updating/Upgrading the Sculpts
Photos of New 3D Prints
New Renders
Halloween Captions
Next KS
December Deal for KS backers
edit.
 Automatically Appended Next Post: We're tracking close to our estimate from our previous Update: we were shooting for 4-5 weeks after Update 94, which would have meant shipping around this week. We've fallen a bit behind, but not by much... The following boxes:
KST Heavy Troops + KST Heavy Command Group
JB Regular Troops + JB Regular Command Group
IE Heavy Troops + IE Heavy Command Group
are going to start shipping on December 2nd, right after the American Thanksgiving week-end.
As for the remaining troops:
IE Regular Troops + IE Regular Command Group
KST Regular Troops + KST Regular Command Group
we said they would require an additional 3-5 weeks, and this estimate is still good, so we are currently looking at shipping those in late December. Additional metal Heroines will become ready at about the same time.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Duckface. Nice touch.
Still, does this artist interact with real women whose knees work like that? I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but it's in every picture and it just gets weirder and weirder. I mean, her upper half's posing for a picture and her lower half is trying to limbo. Why?
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Post by: BrookM
Bit miffed that they added that logo to the back of her coat, looks like comrade dremel will need to be called in some time next year:
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Post by: Haljin
 BrookM wrote:Bit miffed that they added that logo to the back of her coat, looks like comrade dremel will need to be called in some time next year:
My thoughts exactly, although for me it's a knife to resin.
The quote on the cloak is also annoying.
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Post by: chaos0xomega
generally not a fan of raised details on banners/cloaks, etc. I guess its supposed to represent emroidery but the effect is always too extreme imo.... but in this case ill live with it, just want my minis damnit.
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
The only real quibble I have on the final sculpts I've seen posted (I'm a wave 3 so wont be seeing anything for a while yet) - the edges of cloaks/jackets/anything flaring out of the body is really quite thick.
Give GW their props, they at least know how to taper a cloth edge into a sharper edge - the RH jobs look a bit roughshod and half arsed at that point while the detail capture elsewhere on the models are quite tight and refined - makes me wonder if it is a shortcoming of 3D sculpting/printing?.
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Post by: Haljin
 FrothingMuppet wrote:The only real quibble I have on the final sculpts I've seen posted (I'm a wave 3 so wont be seeing anything for a while yet) - the edges of cloaks/jackets/anything flaring out of the body is really quite thick.
Give GW their props, they at least know how to taper a cloth edge into a sharper edge - the RH jobs look a bit roughshod and half arsed at that point while the detail capture elsewhere on the models are quite tight and refined - makes me wonder if it is a shortcoming of 3D sculpting/printing?.
GW also sculpt using software though.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Looking good,
I may be adding to my order if the 'surprise' is being able to get more stuff at KS prices
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Post by: PsychoticStorm
I must be really tired, now the raised symbol and the odd symbol on the back registered on my brain.... not a fan...
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Post by: migooo
I don't want to be an Doubting Thomas but We haven't seen the sculpts for the she wolves yet.
you know considering I could have had more boxes of troops for those....
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Post by: BrookM
Haljin wrote: BrookM wrote:Bit miffed that they added that logo to the back of her coat, looks like comrade dremel will need to be called in some time next year:
My thoughts exactly, although for me it's a knife to resin.
The quote on the cloak is also annoying.
The quote is annoying, but then again the sisters come with quotes of their own, so no helping that.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Of all the alternate sculpts, I do wish they'd have included a few zombie heads for troopers or artillery crews. Right now they all look like fashion models.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
migooo wrote:I don't want to be an Doubting Thomas but We haven't seen the sculpts for the she wolves yet.
you know considering I could have had more boxes of troops for those....
Yes we have (but not as prints though)
Update #86 May 3 2014
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Post by: migooo
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:migooo wrote:I don't want to be an Doubting Thomas but We haven't seen the sculpts for the she wolves yet.
you know considering I could have had more boxes of troops for those....
Yes we have (but not as prints though)
Update #86 May 3 2014
I was thinking of prints more than anything but I'm guessing we wont see those until they ship.
But thank you for the reminder
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Post by: Wehrkind
Huh, missed that update. I suppose some day I will spend some cash on those. Fortunately by the time they hit retail I will probably have tenure.
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Post by: BrookM
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Of all the alternate sculpts, I do wish they'd have included a few zombie heads for troopers or artillery crews. Right now they all look like fashion models.
Ah, but to enlist in that universe you must have walked at least a dozen catwalks and trained yourself to in these weird, knock-kneed poses. 
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Post by: Jimsolo
Now I wish I'd ordered Wolfenstein and the Shewolves.
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Post by: BrookM
It's never too late to drop them a line and change your order.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Yeah, but not to add to it I think.
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Post by: Desubot
Sweet tits on a wolf.
Id love to get one but god knows how many years it will take for them to pop up for retail :/
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Post by: Jimsolo
At this point I would be interested in buying someone's pledge if anybody's looking to get out.
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Post by: BrookM
I'd keep an eye out for the backer surprise they got planned around the end of the year, it may be geared towards your pledge orrrrrr it may be something regarding the next KS, which is starting around that time as well.
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Post by: skarsol
 BrookM wrote:I'd keep an eye out for the backer surprise they got planned around the end of the year, it may be geared towards your pledge orrrrrr it may be something regarding the next KS, which is starting around that time as well.
Pledge manager re-opened for the weekend. First wave of models going on sale to the public soon.
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Post by: Haljin
"Hey guys, remember how we sold you all this product that we haven't delivered? You can buy more now!"
Yeah, I think I'll pass. Short on money, eh? I wonder how that happened!
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Post by: BrookM
They are offering free shipping. I am actually tempted to get some more minis now, seeing as it's still going to be a long wait before I get my Wolfenstein.
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Post by: AlexHolker
I would buy Raging Heroes stuff ever again, but only if they go to proper plastic sprues. I still haven't found out if their restic is any good, which was the plan back in 2013.
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Post by: BrookM
Well them doing plastic would've taken even longer I think and I wouldn't have been possible with the budget they were on now, I'm even surprised they got this far before putting the models on sale.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
And oh wait, while I can add more minis to my pledge, I'll still have to wait for them all in one go, because Wolfenstein still isn't available. Bleh.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
How can they go on "general sale" if we don't have them yet.
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Post by: BrookM
Maybe they're out of money? Or maybe they felt they've waited long enough with these and wanted to make more money? Or maybe they wanted to get some of these out the door before they kicked off their next Kickstarter in a few weeks, to show that they can deliver models?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Or maybe there's a real snark-less answer.
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Post by: Joyboozer
Not on the internet, to anything.
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Post by: BrookM
Actually, I was quite serious, but oh well.
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Post by: RoninXiC
I can't believe how indifferent I've become when they release an update.
Yeah ... good for you I guess? Still waiting for any of my miniatures. Bla Bla Bla.
See you in 2 months with another Bla Bla Bla update.
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Post by: Haljin
..what was snarky about BrookM's post? Sounded genuine to me. They actually admitted in the update they are getting low on cash...
I would be tempted to add that IE sniper to count-as Vindicare or something but... I am not very motivated to do so.
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Post by: FacelessMage
The answer sounded pretty reasonable to me.
And as an aside:
Brooke, Where do you find such awesome avatars?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Well I had to add a couple of Mechs now I've seen the full (and final final detail), as well as the cyberzombies I regretted not being able to afford earlier
I'm not surprised they've finally decided to sell some of the finished stuff
and as long as they stick to minis backers could have had if they'd paid for the appropriate split shipping I'm only mildly annoyed
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Post by: Alpharius
They've actually said in the update that they're running low on funds?!?
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Post by: BrookM
People, I am a horrible person, full of bile, snark and other rude things that some cannot abide by. But remember, I'm also..
RoninXiC wrote:I can't believe how indifferent I've become when they release an update.
Yeah ... good for you I guess? Still waiting for any of my miniatures. Bla Bla Bla.
See you in 2 months with another Bla Bla Bla update.
This latest update wasn't all that bad. Well, they saved the fapping for their first in a long time official newsletter this time round, where they posted KS feedback to promote the upcoming sale of the minis.
I may or may not be awesome, know awesome people and know an awesome person who does neat photoshops for us DCM's.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:and as long as they stick to minis backers could have had if they'd paid for the appropriate split shipping I'm only mildly annoyed
That appears to be the plan right now. Sucks for the people who are getting everything in one wave though.
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Yeah reassuring eh:
But our uncompromising stance for quality has not only made us late, but cost us a lot financially.
And funds are now running low.
But... DON'T PANIC
Can I start panicking now?
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Post by: BrookM
There we go, my previous reply about them running out of money am justified now.
And Don't lengthen your swear words, the filter might miss them then. Bad brook. Bad., here's hoping they don't go tits up before I can get my Wolfenstein. 
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Post by: Haljin
BrookM wrote:There we go, my previous reply about them running out of money am justified now.
And shiiiiiiiiiiiit, here's hoping they don't go tits up before I can get my Wolfenstein.
I'm more worried about the 10 or so boxes of troops of mine...
What's up with the southern Europe. I just preordered some stuff from Avatars of War and it took them two weeks to finally acknowledge the order and give me an option to pay for it.
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Post by: Alpharius
 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:Yeah reassuring eh:
But our uncompromising stance for quality has not only made us late, but cost us a lot financially.
And funds are now running low.
But... DON'T PANIC
Can I start panicking now?
I'd say that yes, that's a bit troubling.
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Post by: BrookM
Haljin wrote: BrookM wrote:There we go, my previous reply about them running out of money am justified now.
And shiiiiiiiiiiiit, here's hoping they don't go tits up before I can get my Wolfenstein.
I'm more worried about the 10 or so boxes of troops of mine...
Troops are shipping shortly, or at least some of them are, so you are maybe a little bit in the clear. It's what comes afterwards that may be moving into the iffy territory. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Alpharius wrote: Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:Yeah reassuring eh:
But our uncompromising stance for quality has not only made us late, but cost us a lot financially.
And funds are now running low.
But... DON'T PANIC
Can I start panicking now?
I'd say that yes, that's a bit troubling.
Hey, what could possibly go wrong?
Though it does explain why they need to do a new KS before the other one has been finished. But hey, you can't rush art!
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
I'll probably grab some KST heavy troops quick. I was going to get them at retail any way...
As to closing down or whatever, I suppose we'll just have to see.
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Post by: FacelessMage
BrookM wrote:
I may or may not be awesome, know awesome people and know an awesome person who does neat photoshops for us DCM's.
*slow clap for the DCM plug*
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Post by: BrookM
 KalashnikovMarine wrote:I'll probably grab some KST heavy troops quick. I was going to get them at retail any way...
As to closing down or whatever, I suppose we'll just have to see.
Awww, come on man, after Robotech and Alien versus Predator this thread also needs to get in on the whole "ze sky eez falling!" trend that the others have gone, or are still going through. Automatically Appended Next Post:  FacelessMage wrote: BrookM wrote:
I may or may not be awesome, know awesome people and know an awesome person who does neat photoshops for us DCM's.
*slow clap for the DCM plug*
It's not just a plug, it's a means of prolonging my own miserable life, for the overlords are always watching.
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Post by: skarsol
 H.B.M.C. wrote:How can they go on "general sale" if we don't have them yet.
Haven't they shipped to people who paid for the first wave of shipping?
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Post by: Jimsolo
Yep. I've got my first box a while back.
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Post by: BrookM
Ooh, what was in it? Did you also get the complimentary coasters?
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Post by: slk28850
So 8-12 weeks out for everything else should put us at Feb/March ish for Wave 3 people. I'll be glad to get these in hand. Hopefully all of the lessons were learned from this KS for the next ones. I'm not happy with the delay but the models they produce are pretty sweet.
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Post by: BrookM
Hehe, that's super-optimistic, let's see if they can deliver the first batch of promised troop boxes first.
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Post by: Ouze
The "we're running out of money" makes me wonder if I need to be trying to saddle someone else with my $330 pledge.
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Post by: BrookM
No worries, they'll be kicking off another Kickstarter soon, the funds of that will no doubt partially be funnelled into the completion of this one.
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Post by: Alpharius
Yeah, no red flags or warning signs there!
All kidding aside, good luck everyone here who pledged.
The Rumblings out in the wild are getting...ominous.
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Post by: Joyboozer
Christ, why am I getting emails announcing the release of 13 miniatures? Do they realise they just made me aware of the fact that after all this time they've got sweet FA to show for it and convinced me not to back the Dark Elves KS?
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Post by: Jimsolo
BrookM wrote:Ooh, what was in it? Did you also get the complimentary coasters?
I got the first wave freebies (Flutterby Lulu, Charlie, Drusilla, Jinx, Harry, Natasha the Com Operator), Cruz, Mimi the Radio, One Shot Blondie (x2), Shashenka, Tania, The Lulus, Vera Krabbenhoft, and Yoko(x2).
No warping or bubbling, no casting problems at all. Which led me to an interesting question: are the resin and metal molds different? I saw people who had problem with the resin Cruz having a mold line across her eye. I got the metal one, and the mold line is super faint, but doesn't cross over that eye at all. (Unless there is no mold line and I'm only imagining the super faint one.
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Post by: skarsol
Alpharius wrote:Yeah, no red flags or warning signs there!
All kidding aside, good luck everyone here who pledged.
The Rumblings out in the wild are getting...ominous.
What's the bad word?
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Post by: Jimsolo
They mentioned running low on funds. Some people are now worrying about whether or not they will be able to complete this campaign.
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Post by: BrookM
They will, it'll just probably cause problems for the completion of their next project, but that can always be fixed with another KS.
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Post by: alanmckenzie
BrookM wrote:No worries, they'll be kicking off another Kickstarter soon, the funds of that will no doubt partially be funnelled into the completion of this one.
Selfishly, this makes me feel better. I do think this ks will be fulfilled. I'm certain it will be. At least that's what I'm telling myself. Mr Glutton for Punisment here just gave them another $160. Idiot.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
BrookM wrote: KalashnikovMarine wrote:I'll probably grab some KST heavy troops quick. I was going to get them at retail any way...
As to closing down or whatever, I suppose we'll just have to see.
Awww, come on man, after Robotech and Alien versus Predator this thread also needs to get in on the whole "ze sky eez falling!" trend that the others have gone, or are still going through.
Belay my last. I ain't giving them more cash. If they could have said "We're thinking Wave III before spring sometime" I would have dropped $40 or so for some heavy KST troopers, but fething hell...
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Post by: Haljin
It's a bit sad really. I wouldn't mind getting a few more minis from them, but not with how they are handling things.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
It's been so long I don't even remember what I pledged for. If I added anything I'd probably double up on something.
I too am worried that they're having a cash flow issues, as an 'all at once' backer I'm getting just a little nervous.
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Post by: Thor665
They actually remain about on schedule for what I expected when I pledged.
I also admit I'm not really worried about getting my models. I don't take the money comment as much of a danger, personally, and feel it's being a bit overblown.
Heck, they could always just release their communications guy and save a decent monthly expense that way with no shift in quality of communications
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Post by: BrookM
Received the second newsletter just now, bit sad that they are using the same KS comments as yesterday.
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Post by: prankster
Well, using fresh comments would mean having to spend more time looking through the myriad of KS comments that they've been trying to ignore for the past several months.
As for the last KS update, we pretty much expected them to be running low on funds by this point, given the delays experienced so far and the inability to easily add onto your pledge in the interim.
I'm in two minds, personally, about adding anything extra to my pledge. I could go for some more troops, but given we've not seen them in the flesh yet I'm reluctant to add even more to the pile than what I already have coming.
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Post by: Thor665
prankster wrote:I'm in two minds, personally, about adding anything extra to my pledge. I could go for some more troops, but given we've not seen them in the flesh yet I'm reluctant to add even more to the pile than what I already have coming.
I will admit I'm mildly of a mind to add on some KS troopers, whom I didn't really get many of, just to functionally give me a first half of my order shipment, as I wasn't close to any drop ship locations.
Honestly I could probably pore through there and find a couple more I'd like now that I've seen more renders.
I'm an addict though.
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Post by: BrookM
Well, I decided to be a chump and added Doctor von X and Elektra Eisenstein to my pledge. Dunno when I'll get them, especially seeing as the latter is still on pre-order, but they'll do nicely for my Imperial Navy and Questoris Knight armies. Automatically Appended Next Post: Eh, what the hell, you may point and laugh now, I also decided to get von Stroheim and Madsen, they too will make for excellent Knight Nobles.
I'm doing my part to keep this afloat! Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, to the peeps who already have von Stroheim, could you tell me if the pile of skulls she's perched on, is it attached to her foot or is it a separate piece?
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Post by: monkeytroll
Well I would laugh and point, but I also got tempted to add some troops and a bike to my pledge. What a bunch of masochistic fools we gamers are
As to von Stroheim, the skulls are attached to the foot, with the cloak wrapping round them, so a pain if you want to lose the skulls - probably easier to turn it into a rubble pile with liberal use of sand and bits.
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Post by: migooo
 monkeytroll wrote:Well I would laugh and point, but I also got tempted to add some troops and a bike to my pledge. What a bunch of masochistic fools we gamers are
As to von Stroheim, the skulls are attached to the foot, with the cloak wrapping round them, so a pain if you want to lose the skulls - probably easier to turn it into a rubble pile with liberal use of sand and bits.
Ill let you know, if and when my stuff turns up.
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Post by: BrookM
monkeytroll wrote:As to von Stroheim, the skulls are attached to the foot, with the cloak wrapping round them, so a pain if you want to lose the skulls - probably easier to turn it into a rubble pile with liberal use of sand and bits.
That's a shame and a missed opportunity in my opinion, but yeah, shouldn't be too hard to fix. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, got this message just now:
Loud'n Raging says:
Please read this message. Important information included:
It has come to our attention that, for various reasons, many backers missed crucial information about the fulfilment of the TGG Kickstarter.
If you haven't, we strongly recommend that you read Updates #97 ( http://bit.ly/Update97) and #95 ( http://bit.ly/update95). To summarise:
Update #97 contains 3 very exclusive Deals for backers.
Deal #1 is that the Pledge Manager has just reopened for just a few days, until December 2.
It is your very last chance to get TGG minis at a super low Kickstarter price.
Many TGG minis are already available. We started shipping them this past summer.
If you haven't received anything else, it is because you have selected Standard Shipping.
You can get the minis faster:
- for no additional cost by joining our Drop Ship programme
- by purchasing 1 or more additional shipping wave
- by using Deal #3 (Update #97).
If you have missed past Updates, please make sure you are subscribed to them, or that they are not landing in your SPAM or Updates folders.
Quick reminder: If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please contact us on the Live Chat, or send a private KS message, or drop us an email at RagingHeroesTeam@gmail.com. We'll be happy to help.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Eh, naw, I dinnae 'hink so RH. I have two-wave dropshipping, the reason I've not received anything else is your faffing about with what actually constitutes each wave despite me picking stuff that was supposedly only in wave 1 and wave 2.
Christ these guys seem to be physically incapable of taking responsibility for anything.
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Post by: prankster
Similarly, I have 3 wave drop shipping and only had one package. But then, we've only had waves 1 and 1.5 ship so far. Not an actual wave 2 and wave 3 is still somewhere in the distant future.
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Post by: BrookM
I wonder if that free shipping voucher could be used to split a larger order into two.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Sigh... well I'm caving. My friend is jumping in on my pledge, so I'm just going to add my squad that I wanted since I'm doing up an order any way..
I just have to decide if I want:
15x Heavy troopers - $60
10x Heavy 10x regulars - $70
What does the will of Dakka suggest?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
If in doubt get 'all the things'
so I'd go for 10x Heavy 10x regulars - $70
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
That's more or less where I was leaning in the end. Two full squads vs. one big squad ya?
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Post by: Haljin
We never really learn, do we? And then when another beautiful, amazing Kickstarter is late 2 years, we just get what we deserve.
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Post by: BrookM
Ha, speak for yourself! I'm so not going to back the next one!
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Post by: RoninXiC
Yeah, right :p
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Post by: BrookM
Going from their concepts, nope. Also, I neither play titty elves or walking cathedrals.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Yeah, unless they start playing to the digipunk or Hellraiser sides of the DE aesthetic palette, I don't think I'll be able to get down on the next one either.
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Post by: Yodhrin
I would do murder for high quality Sisters of Battle/Sigmar models, but I draw the line at giving RH more money.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
But we have to keep the Ponzi scheme going otherwise we will not receive our models
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Post by: BrookM
At the very least they're delivering something. I keep impatiently checking every few hours to see if there's a change in my order status, but alas.
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Post by: Haljin
BrookM wrote:At the very least they're delivering something. I keep impatiently checking every few hours to see if there's a change in my order status, but alas.
Are they? Nothing I read suggests that they will be really shipping anything any time soon. Just the same empty promises.
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Post by: BrookM
Okay, now you may point and laugh at me. 
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
So just to show how long it's been since I did my pledge manager. I actually forgot that I already had a squad of heavy troops in there. So I grabbed the squad of regulars and the KST Heavy Gunner and Panzerknacker.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Haljin wrote: BrookM wrote:At the very least they're delivering something. I keep impatiently checking every few hours to see if there's a change in my order status, but alas.
Are they? Nothing I read suggests that they will be really shipping anything any time soon. Just the same empty promises.
They've already shipped stuff (I've had some myself), now whether they ship (more) stuff soon is another matter depending partly on what you ordered (the updates have give a rough timeline and stuff like meks and trikes are well away, up to you), partly on whether you've paid extra shipping (up to you) and partly on how fast they can get the casts in (that's down to them) since I've got meks in my remaining order and havn't paid for any more split shipping I'm guessing april/may 2016
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Post by: Thor665
Well, I did break down and get their arco-flagellants and some more Empire Heavy Weapon teams.
I'll also probably find time in my day to put in a small order during the next offer window to get my first/second wave stuff shipped to me.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'm not sure that giving these guys any more money at this point is a good idea...
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Post by: BrookM
No worries, new KS coming soon, all problems will be over for another year or two.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Alpharius wrote:I'm not sure that giving these guys any more money at this point is a good idea...
But we've already sunk so many costs into this it would be a fallacy not to throw more good money after it.
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Post by: zedmeister
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Alpharius wrote:I'm not sure that giving these guys any more money at this point is a good idea...
But we've already sunk so many costs into this it would be a fallacy not to throw more good money after it.
Don't do it!
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Post by: Yodhrin
Seems it didn't take long for Homo Whitus Knighticus to pop up in the KS comments again.
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Post by: BrookM
Yeah, not fond of the guy who calls others dense.
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Post by: zedmeister
 Yodhrin wrote:
Seems it didn't take long for Homo Whitus Knighticus to pop up in the KS comments again.
I did actually see and get the joke. Just wanted to post the link anyway as it seemed appropriate.
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Post by: BrookM
What did Alex found in this box? #TheTGG #BehindTheScenes #enlightning #RagingHeroes #boxes #photooftheday #igers #mysterieux #theLight #lettherebelight
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Post by: Thorgrim Bloodcrow
I sadly don't have the money at the moment to donate but with the holidays around the corner, I'm more than happy to throw copious amounts of money at the stuff then.
I'd like to assume all of this stuff is going up for sale on the site but is there anyway I can get a definite on that?
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Post by: -iPaint-
BrookM wrote:What did Alex found in this box? #TheTGG #BehindTheScenes #enlightning #RagingHeroes #boxes #photooftheday #igers #mysterieux #theLight #lettherebelight
Ugh. I'd pay money to not have to be bombarded by crappy social networking buzz words.
What's your product, and tell me a bit about it without sounding like a tweenager who just found out the latest gossip.
~iPaint
BTW, there's only one "What's in the box?"
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Post by: Sinful Hero
So is there a place that lists what is in which wave?
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Post by: -iPaint-
Supposedly Wave 2 is meant to include all of the troops and most/all of the support teams, and a handful of heroines.
Wave 3 is everything else.
~iPaint
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Post by: Sinful Hero
 -iPaint- wrote:
Supposedly Wave 2 is meant to include all of the troops and most/all of the support teams, and a handful of heroines.
Wave 3 is everything else.
~iPaint
So where would the Necropriestess Nepharya fit in? The second wave?
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Post by: Yodhrin
BrookM wrote:
What did Alex found in this box? #TheTGG #BehindTheScenes #enlightning #RagingHeroes #boxes #photooftheday #igers #mysterieux #theLight #lettherebelight
Just...what...the...how.....ugh.
I don't understand how these guys can so spectacularly miss the point of posting updates. Seriously, that post amounts to "We have information, and we could tell you....but we won't lulz trolololol!1!!".
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Post by: Thor665
And their communication is still better than GW's :lol:
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That post would have been endearing if they were on time, had a good track record of posting updates and not being too wordy as well as abusing hashtags to the point of it becoming a fellony and all that jazz...
But now, yeah, it's just trolling the backers.
Supposedly they must have begun shipping "some of" wave 2 today. I think. Man this is getting hard to keep track of.
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Post by: Alpharius
#boxes?
Huh.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Sure, we've seen boxes before. When the Hippo was giving us an unasked-for tour of the warehouse space.
Has there been any discussion on packaging of the retail product? I'd think they could have put their artists to work on that for a few months, easily. It can make or break your product so bad.
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Post by: Psienesis
I don't think RH does retail store sales. I believe they are online-orders-only.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
They had a dropship programme in order to create the possibility of retail sales. That was the point of the programme, more than the savings on shipping for buy... backers. It would have allowed them to show that their product could draw a crowd in...
...if they'd done it with more than 23 minis, no troops and a game too.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:
What did Alex found in this box? #TheTGG #BehindTheScenes #enlightning #RagingHeroes #boxes #photooftheday #igers #mysterieux #theLight #lettherebelight
Don't open Pandora's box!
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Post by: Yodhrin
Why not? TGG backers have already lost all hope *badum-tsh*
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Post by: Jimsolo
Marcellus Wallace would like his minis now.
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Post by: BrookM
 Psienesis wrote:I don't think RH does retail store sales. I believe they are online-orders-only.
They do, single models come in blisters and squads / larger models come in small cardboard boxes with a picture pasted on front. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nope, they're just making things up as they go, constantly changing the order and contents of each wave as the wind blows. They say one thing, do another because teehee, it's better that way.
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Post by: Haljin
 zedmeister wrote:
I did actually see and get the joke. Just wanted to post the link anyway as it seemed appropriate.
Thanks, it was an interesting read to go with morning coffee.
What did Alex found in this box? #TheTGG #BehindTheScenes #enlightning #RagingHeroes #boxes #photooftheday #igers #mysterieux #theLight #lettherebelight
A box of light, how amazing! Will they have a kickstarter for that?
That guy is amazing. I really don't understand what point is he trying to make. Unless he knows it's all a financial pyramid and the only hope to recover losses is to pull others in
Psienesis wrote:I don't think RH does retail store sales. I believe they are online-orders-only.
My FLGS stocks quite a few of their products.
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Post by: BrookM
Haljin wrote:That guy is amazing. I really don't understand what point is he trying to make. Unless he knows it's all a financial pyramid and the only hope to recover losses is to pull others in
I think he's one of those guys who already has product and as such, doesn't see a need for others to voice their discontent, all the while more or less ignoring the reasons why some don't have stuff as of yet.
"I don't know what these guys are so dense about, I got my minis through my dropship location so I'm happy and as long as I'm happy everybody else should be as well."
Dropship locations are a great idea, no sarcasm there, but it sucks when there's not one nearby or your store couldn't garner enough backers to warrant such a status.
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Post by: zedmeister
Haljin wrote: zedmeister wrote:
I did actually see and get the joke. Just wanted to post the link anyway as it seemed appropriate.
Thanks, it was an interesting read to go with morning coffee.
Thanks!
Morning coffee you say? (Seriously, the blog is a fascinating read!)
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Post by: Haljin
BrookM wrote: Haljin wrote:That guy is amazing. I really don't understand what point is he trying to make. Unless he knows it's all a financial pyramid and the only hope to recover losses is to pull others in
I think he's one of those guys who already has product and as such, doesn't see a need for others to voice their discontent, all the while more or less ignoring the reasons why some don't have stuff as of yet.
"I don't know what these guys are so dense about, I got my minis through my dropship location so I'm happy and as long as I'm happy everybody else should be as well."
Dropship locations are a great idea, no sarcasm there, but it sucks when there's not one nearby or your store couldn't garner enough backers to warrant such a status.
Meh, I have a dropship location, got my first wave, but I do not understand how could one be happy about that. The total of what I got is worth maybe under 100$ (counting what I spent on it). That's not even 25% of my pledge. But yeah, you're right the guy cannot see outside of the tip of his own nose.
Bookmarked! I guess I should go back to tea in the mornings as I mostly drink coffee to get something warm inside me in the morning and I like the taste.. I never really felt the kick everyone is talking about either.
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Post by: AlexHolker
Haljin wrote:
Bookmarked! I guess I should go back to tea in the mornings as I mostly drink coffee to get something warm inside me in the morning and I like the taste.. I never really felt the kick everyone is talking about either.
Tea has caffeine in it as well, just not as much. That said, I've never had the same withdrawal symptoms from green or chai tea that I have with even half-strength coffee.
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Post by: Mymearan
Rooibos doesn't have caffeine actually.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
What scale are these btw? I will be buying some Jailbirds to use as Esher for Necromunda, and I would like to know if they will fit in with the rest of the girls...
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Post by: Haljin
Mymearan wrote:Rooibos doesn't have caffeine actually.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
What scale are these btw? I will be buying some Jailbirds to use as Esher for Necromunda, and I would like to know if they will fit in with the rest of the girls...
There's a lot of comparison shots if you just google or look in this thread (although admittedly it' sa bit long). They are slightly taller than GW, but the proportions are slightly different.
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Post by: BrookM
Only problem I had with my girls was that their legs are so wide apart that they can be a pain to stick onto a regular base.
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Post by: timd
BrookM wrote:
Only problem I had with my girls was that their legs are so wide apart that they can be a pain to stick onto a regular base.
So that's why GW made new 32mm bases!
T
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Post by: BrookM
Hehe, good guy GW, fixing the problems caused by third party companies.
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Post by: -iPaint-
 Sinful Hero wrote: -iPaint- wrote:
Supposedly Wave 2 is meant to include all of the troops and most/all of the support teams, and a handful of heroines.
Wave 3 is everything else.
~iPaint
So where would the Necropriestess Nepharya fit in? The second wave?
Probably wave 3, whenever that is. Sorry we can't be more precise, since RH has failed to tell backers anything beyond "We're busy hash-tagging."
~iPaint
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Seems they've extended the re-opening of the pledge manager till the 4th, my resistance is crumbling, why does everyone want me to spend money at the one point of the year where I've spent it all on other people.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I imagine they'll start shipping stuff to Paypal backers sooner rather than later to access that stash of cash. It would be a bit more ethical than financing this campaign with another one.
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Post by: BrookM
We'll see how soon that will happen, Paypal already took the money for both of the extra orders I put in, one of these is made up of models that are out right now.
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Post by: Azazelx
BrookM wrote:I wonder if that free shipping voucher could be used to split a larger order into two.
What was that about free shipping voucher?
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Post by: BrookM
Azazelx wrote: BrookM wrote:I wonder if that free shipping voucher could be used to split a larger order into two.
What was that about free shipping voucher?
You need to use the following code when checking out: BestBackerEver
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
But note that using the voucher will jus add the stuff onto your KS order for shipment whenever you next aid for KS shipping wave happens
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Post by: migooo
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:But note that using the voucher will jus add the stuff onto your KS order for shipment whenever you next aid for KS shipping wave happens
To those who have paid for split shipping did you think it was worth that?
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Post by: BrookM
So wait, if my original mini was a wave infinity model and I place two separate orders, one made up of models that are out right now, I'll still have to wait until with strange aeons even death may die?
Well, crap baskets.
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Post by: migooo
whuh? why did this post twice?
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Post by: BrookM
It happens from time to time, pro-tip though: Next time do not edit out the second post, Dakka Dakka cleans this up automatically.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Yeah, don't feel too bad about it. It happens to lots of posters.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
migooo wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:But note that using the voucher will jus add the stuff onto your KS order for shipment whenever you next aid for KS shipping wave happens
To those who have paid for split shipping did you think it was worth that?
It was worth it for me,
as I got to see what their spincast resin looked like compared to the metals (and it compares very favourably, if it hadn't I'd have been able to change my later picks to avoid it as much as possible), I got a decent chunk of my order (I'd picked a lot of the completed heroines) and it didn't cost too much as I'm in the UK
(if I'd been in a different part of the world where the shipping would have been higher, or if I'd only chosen a few units 'available now' it probably wouldn't have been)
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Post by: Yodhrin
UPDATE #98 – FOR BACKERS ONLY
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Hi guys! After many long days and very short nights, here's the promised Update with details on Deals #2 and #3 described in our previous Update. These deals are reserved EXCLUSIVELY for you, our backers, in gratitude for your awesome support on the TGG Kickstarter and while we are finishing casting and shipping.
In this Update:
- Discount Code for Deal #2
- Discount Code for Deal #3
- Shipping News
- New Painted Minis
- Who Wants More Coasters / Drink Mats?
- New Webshop Design
DISCOUNT CODE for DEAL #2
Here it is! The discount code is CrankItUpTo11-TGGbackersOnly
It's an 11% discount on www.ragingheroes.com, good from now until late Wednesday December 10, that is, until midnight, Paris time (GMT+1).
And that's not all! Order during that period and we'll also include all 3 brand-new TGG Christmas Coasters in your shipment as a gift!
Please remember that this discount is RESERVED FOR TGG BACKERS, and so, you must use your TGG Pledge Manager email address to place your order.
Note: If the discount is used by non-backers, unfortunately we will not be able to honour it.
GET A BIGGER PARCEL: DEAL #3
You may recall that in Update #97, we promised you a Discount Code: “Deal #3 is from Dec. 5 to Dec. 10: Buy anything from our regular collection www.ragingheroes.com and we'll add to your parcel the TGG rewards that you chose which are already in stock (while stocks last).”
Good news! We are extending this offer to January 5, 2015!
So, for a full month, if you purchase anything in our webshop , you'll get a bigger parcel than expected.
Want in? It's easy:
- ADD this item to your Cart, and follow the instructions written there.
- Provide the email address that you used for the Pledge Manager.
- At Checkout, choose REGULAR SHIPPING (€ 11.90 Euro).
SHIPPING NEWS
As you may recall, the Snipers for all factions moved up to Wave 2, and they are now currently in stock.
Furthermore, all the expected Troops have now arrived, that is,
the KST Heavy Troops + KST Heavy Command Group,
the JB Regular Troops + JB Regular Command Group,
the IE Heavy Troops + IE Heavy Command Group.
However, one parcel got held up at the courier company over Thanksgiving week-end, and only came in this afternoon, so most shipments could only start today, instead of 3 days ago. But we've tripled the size of of the packing team, and so, shipping notices will be coming in regularly. Looks like this is going to be one busy week-end!
NEW PAINT JOBS
Note: Larger size images will be shared in the next Update.
WHO WANTS MORE COASTERS / DRINK MATS?
We've added Nurse Karoline (JB) to our set of TGG coasters, bringing it up to 5 different ones.
And we've also added 3 unique coasters just in time for the Holiday season. And if you order something in our webshop by December 10, we'll include all 3 X-Mas coasters for free, as an early Christmas present!
Of course, we will continue to include random samples in your Kickstarter parcels, but now, you can also grab all of them right away! Just head over to the Goodies section of our webshop!
NEW WEBSHOP DESIGN
Even if you don't need anything, why not check out our fresh new webshop? The original one was built five years ago, an eternity in web years... We will continue to work out the kinks over the next few days, so if you see some bugs, don't hesitate to drop us a note. And over the next few weeks, we will continue to add content.
The French and Spanish versions of the webshop will be updated next week.
So, 90% of that is ignorable waffle from my perspective, but I can stomach their self-aggrandising verbosity just this once since - providing they've not developed another case of Growing A Face-Arse And Speaking From It Syndrome - the Snipers are in so I can soon get my models and try to forget this whole affair ever happened.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
I'm not jealous of paintjobs very often, but I have to say that the pj One-Shot Blondie is unreal.
Extending the 'Deal 3' to Jan. 5- what do you think that's about?
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Post by: BrookM
Spend more money, but maybe finally get some minis?
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What the hell, giving it a try, wanted one of their fantasy minis anyway.
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Post by: Azazelx
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
as I got to see what their spincast resin looked like compared to the metals (and it compares very favourably, if it hadn't I'd have been able to change my later picks to avoid it as much as possible), I got a decent chunk of my order (I'd picked a lot of the completed heroines) and it didn't cost too much as I'm in the UK
So... the spincast is better or worse than metal in your opinion? Your syntax there is confusing. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Dr Mathias wrote:I'm not jealous of paintjobs very often, but I have to say that the pj One-Shot Blondie is unreal.
Extending the 'Deal 3' to Jan. 5- what do you think that's about?
Maybe the " this is not the best time of year to buy myself lots of toy soldiers" thing that's affecting many of us right now?
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Post by: Ouze
Dr Mathias wrote:I'm not jealous of paintjobs very often, but I have to say that the pj One-Shot Blondie is unreal.
Seeing them painted actually sort of makes me regret pledging at all. The delays are fine, the poor communication was expected, and so on, but now I'm sort of dreading the idea that I might actually get some giant box from France and have to paint all the damn things.
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Post by: Haljin
So we are actually getting something shipped right now? Is that what they're saying?
I wish I knew what was shipping, it seems only heavy KST troops made it. Too bad, the troops are more-or-less half of my pledge.
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Post by: RoninXiC
Painting truely is amazing.. stunning and all that.
MAAAAYYYBEEE they are actually 80% done now? You know... for sure
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Azazelx wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
as I got to see what their spincast resin looked like compared to the metals (and it compares very favourably, if it hadn't I'd have been able to change my later picks to avoid it as much as possible), I got a decent chunk of my order (I'd picked a lot of the completed heroines) and it didn't cost too much as I'm in the UK
So... the spincast is better or worse than metal in your opinion? Your syntax there is confusing.
I think this spincast is just as good as the metal,
and considering the number of bits some of the figures are in might even be preferable if you're gaming with them as they'll be less likely to fall apart if bashed or dropped
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Dr Mathias wrote:I'm not jealous of paintjobs very often, but I have to say that the pj One-Shot Blondie is unreal.
To me, it's actually kind of weird to see painted pics of these models, after seeing just concept art and renders for so long.
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Post by: BrookM
It's almost as if these models are real.
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Post by: Jimsolo
That's the first tattoo I've ever seen on a mini that actually looked good.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Tattoos are hard...
their painter is very skilled
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Post by: Haljin
Hm. If they really do ship troops soon, I might cave and add that Mortaria to my pledge. Would make a good Vindicare assassin, which I would never use, because I hardly play anymore.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Yeah, AR told me the name and I looked her up. She's flipping amazing. If she was based in America I'd inquire about army commissions, but I don't think I'd be up for international shipping for a whole army two ways.
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Post by: Thor665
I just went whole hog and ordered some stuff using the sale and paid for the extra shipping to get the tggks stuff sent on - ended up being about an equal exchange of value there, but getting some of my stuff early will be a pretty solid win for me as I was waiting for the whole shipment prior to this.
Those Fantasy Kurganovas will make pretty solid Inquisitorial henchmen and inquisitors methinks.
Don't know what I'm going to do with the extra bulldog though
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Post by: Breotan
Wow. I can't even imagine painting at that level of detail.
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Post by: Haljin
 Breotan wrote:Wow. I can't even imagine painting at that level of detail.
Then something like http://www.coolminiornot.com/362395 should blow your mind? This guy is an insane painter.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
So heavy troops are in but the regular girls are still a while away? Great...
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Post by: Thor665
They listed the regular Jailbirds and JB Commnd as in also.
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Post by: Mymearan
Are there any pics of the troops?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
 Thor665 wrote:They listed the regular Jailbirds and JB Commnd as in also.
I should have been more precise. No regular KST or IE.
Happy, smartypants?
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Post by: Thor665
Not so much, I've got a lot of regular IE I'm waiting for
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Post by: BrookM
I just noticed that the limited edition Kurganova boxed set has gone up from €31,95 to €48,35 (or €39,95 right now as it's on sale) 
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
The low price made them look cheap and not premium.
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Post by: migooo
Oh how we will miss your razor sharp wit, with the next KS
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I don't know, I might invest a single dollar just to be kept in the loop.
Seriously, though. That box set was a limited run of 500? For all those clamouring on their Facebook page or the campaign comments section, it's anybody's guess as to why those are still out in the wild.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:I don't know, I might invest a single dollar just to be kept in the loop.
Seriously, though. That box set was a limited run of 500? For all those clamouring on their Facebook page or the campaign comments section, it's anybody's guess as to why those are still out in the wild.
I guess they learned from GW how to do LE editions
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Post by: BrookM
I'm glad I got mine aeons ago when they were first up for pre-order. They're nice minis, Charlie included, but they're not €48 nice, I guess they also got that pricing bit from GW.
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Post by: RoninXiC
From the KS comments:
"Oh and don't hold your breath for quality with the wave 2 models. They're even worse than the first wave. No sharp edges whatsoever, which is a shame when you want to drybrush edges on armour for example.
Glad I took the JB snipers. No sharp edges there, only exeption the guns, ah well will have to paint those patiently when I finally get my minis.
If RH ever contacts me and sends me my pledge that is!"
and a picture of a JB trooper in plastic
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=nvlS1L5AwLNKNGM%2FoyVQ34h4l5k2TGxc#.VIhVGjGG8WI
THOSE ARE NOT MINE.
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Post by: BrookM
Well, final day of KS minis going on sale, I'm quite curious to see how long it will take to ship my webstore order and which KS minis will be included with it.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
That doesn't look as bad as the previous description- as far as I can tell anyway.
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Post by: AlexHolker
Dr Mathias wrote:
That doesn't look as bad as the previous description- as far as I can tell anyway.
I agree. It looks fine, just not awesome enough to make up for all the bs it took to get to this point.
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Post by: Jimsolo
RH FB has yet another pic of mounds of boxes. Presumably with minis ready to ship inside of them.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Jimsolo wrote:RH FB has yet another pic of mounds of boxes. Presumably with minis ready to ship inside of them.
You're talking about the people who took a picture of a lensflare and thought it was worth a dozen hashtags, for all we know they could be making an installation for the Tate Modern called "Tears of Backers".
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Post by: Jimsolo
They a.so posted a pic of several rows of characters in blisters ready to ship out.
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Post by: BrookM
Oh boy, maybe my order is in there as well!
I will say this though, not being able to create an account for their regular site and compulsively checking my order status with them is rather annoying.
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Post by: Haljin
Yes, miniature wargaming is indeed a hobby for the patient. However while normally people mean the whole thing about assembling and painting, it really is waiting till various companies fulfill their obligations.
I'm looking at you Wayland, Avatars of War, in addition to RH!
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Post by: BrookM
Ha, I stopped using Wayland after their whole "stocklevel spiel" bit me in the arse twice.
I mean it though, not being able to check in on your order status is somewhat frustrating, but then again, we were testing their new webstore for some time now.
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Post by: Haljin
BrookM wrote:Ha, I stopped using Wayland after their whole "stocklevel spiel" bit me in the arse twice.
I mean it though, not being able to check in on your order status is somewhat frustrating, but then again, we were testing their new webstore for some time now.
I'm still not sure what alternative to use that would offer similar discounts + free shipping (sometimes with extra 5% off). And in the end I think it's all AoW that does not supply any stock because of reasons, so it would not help to order those directly from them either.. And that's non-Kickstarter stuff, so one could argue they are worse than RH.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Photo up today showing parcels ready to mail.
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Post by: Alpharius
Didn't we already see that photo?
#repeat #doubletake #dejavu
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Post by: Jimsolo
Did we? I'm not a big social media guy.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'm not sure though, so that's why I was asking...you?
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Post by: Jimsolo
Lol, in that case I have no idea.
It doesn't matter for me anyway, since I don't get wave 2 until wave 3.
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Post by: RoninXiC
#thewrongexcitement
#dissapointed
#BOXES
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Post by: alanmckenzie
I took up their offer of shipping some of my stuff if I bought something from their store. So I bought a mini that I wasn't too keen on and paid shipping and now I have a bunch of my stuff on the way. Maybe around a quarter of my total.... Maybe.
I was sticking to single wave shipping all the way, but I thought I'd do this just to get some minis through the door.
Still think I'll have a longish wait for the rest (looking at you cyberzombies) but it'll be nice to have something. It's been a long long time.
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Post by: BrookM
 alanmckenzie wrote:I took up their offer of shipping some of my stuff if I bought something from their store. So I bought a mini that I wasn't too keen on and paid shipping and now I have a bunch of my stuff on the way. Maybe around a quarter of my total.... Maybe.
Did you get a shipping confirmation or anything yet? I've ordered mine almost two weeks ago now and not a word from them since.
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Post by: alanmckenzie
BrookM wrote: alanmckenzie wrote:I took up their offer of shipping some of my stuff if I bought something from their store. So I bought a mini that I wasn't too keen on and paid shipping and now I have a bunch of my stuff on the way. Maybe around a quarter of my total.... Maybe.
Did you get a shipping confirmation or anything yet? I've ordered mine almost two weeks ago now and not a word from them since.
Yeah.
I placed the order on the 6th.
Got a shipping confirmation on the 14th.
That confirmation only itemised the mini that I ordered and Deal #3.
I sent them an email asking if they could tell me which of my ks rewards would be included in the package and Mireille got back to me saying that a separate shipping confirmation would be sent itemising the ks rewards. That confirmation duly arrived a few hours later. Apparently the TGG rewards are located on a different system from the the new webstore, which kinda makes sense.
So, yeah, you should get 2 shipping confirmations; one from your recent webstore order, and another detailing which of your rewards have shipped.
So I was around 8 or 9 days between ordering and shipping. Probably wouldn't hurt to ping Mireille a wee email or something.
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Post by: Yodhrin
You're the odd one out it seems BrookM, looks like they're doing the shipments for people who've taken their "offer" and the retail orders before the regular shlubs.
It's fun trying to figure out how many people who're buying at the retail release will be getting models I ordered before I do despite them ostensibly having everything remaining from my selection in stock and my having paid for dropshipping. Hmm, no, wait, "fun" isn't the word I was looking for, what would fit...oh, right, "fething depressing".
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Gotta say I'm with Yodhrin on that one, albeit, even if they start to do retail releases aggressively every month I should get at least some of my stuff before everyone else.
Right?
Maybe?
Guys?
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Post by: BrookM
So, I've paid way too much shipping for a single mini then? Groovy..
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
But what a mini it is, mate!
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Post by: BrookM
Yeah well, either I took a bowl of stupid or things haven't been lain out clearly enough.
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Post by: skarsol
When I spoke to them on their livechat they confirmed I had a wave of models coming with the troops and such, but that if I took advantage of the shipping/discount deal then I'd get the stuff before Christmas. No shipping notifications yet, so I'm not thinking that's going to happen.
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Post by: BrookM
Got a reply just now, I'm one of those special, pain in the arse cases I think. Honestly though, I think they are reviewing every order manually that falls under the coupon criteria, which would explain why it takes some time for people to get their confirmations sent out.
Long story short, soon I'll be receiving some minis! They'll be shipping tomorrow! Yay! 
Also, the last minis, plus everybody else waiting for wave #3 shipping will be seeing them real soon, either late December or early January according to the email I got just now.
Well, looks like I can finally start work on that Imperial Army and that Imperial Navy detachment soon.
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Post by: Thor665
I was pretty happy to see how many minis I'd be getting - a worthwhile speed-up for me and my 'only one shipment' choice during the KS.
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Post by: BrookM
Well, either way, not long now. It will be good to have some models in hand soon, the wait has been a long one.
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Post by: alanmckenzie
Thor665 wrote:I was pretty happy to see how many minis I'd be getting - a worthwhile speed-up for me and my 'only one shipment' choice during the KS.
Yeah, pretty much how I feel about it too. I was surprised that they're able to ship the iron empire snipers but not the troops though.
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Post by: skarsol
BrookM wrote:Got a reply just now, I'm one of those special, pain in the arse cases I think. Honestly though, I think they are reviewing every order manually that falls under the coupon criteria, which would explain why it takes some time for people to get their confirmations sent out.
Long story short, soon I'll be receiving some minis! They'll be shipping tomorrow! Yay!
Also, the last minis, plus everybody else waiting for wave #3 shipping will be seeing them real soon, either late December or early January according to the email I got just now.
Well, looks like I can finally start work on that Imperial Army and that Imperial Navy detachment soon.
Just got basically the same reply saying shipping today or tomorrow. Will be interesting to see if it can get here from France before Christmas.
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Post by: BrookM
I got my shipping confirmation just now, so with a bit of luck it may be here before Christmas. Thankfully the French Postal service is nowhere near as slow as Royal Mail.
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Post by: alanmckenzie
The Royal Mail is alright, I like 'em.
Could be worse, could be Yodel....
*shudders
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Post by: BrookM
Royal Mail is fine and dandy when you're in the UK. It's when they cross the Channel that they tend to feth things up. Two months and counting for some Christmas gifts from the UK. I mean come on, it's not like it's coming from the US or OZ!
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Post by: Ouze
Well, in the defense of the US, our customs people need to check every package from a firearm, and then if there isn't one present, insert a complimentary one before sending it on it's way.
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Post by: BrookM
Huh, my customs must be taking them out again or something, I never got my complimentary gun.
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Ouze quit making me excited for a moment. That would be great.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
It must be a Commonwealth thing. I get really, really fast service from Royal Mail.
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Post by: BrookM
Or maybe they just hate the Dutch. 
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
No one can really hate the Dutch... butter cookies.
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Post by: Yodhrin
BrookM wrote:Got a reply just now, I'm one of those special, pain in the arse cases I think. Honestly though, I think they are reviewing every order manually that falls under the coupon criteria, which would explain why it takes some time for people to get their confirmations sent out.
Long story short, soon I'll be receiving some minis! They'll be shipping tomorrow! Yay!
Also, the last minis, plus everybody else waiting for wave #3 shipping will be seeing them real soon, either late December or early January according to the email I got just now.
Well, looks like I can finally start work on that Imperial Army and that Imperial Navy detachment soon.
I don't get this then; all my remaining stuff was Wave 2. Then it was held up waiting for the Snipers. Now they have the Snipers, but I have no sign my stuff is on the way, they're shipping orders to folk who bribe them with an extra purchase(not getting at you chief, it's a critique of them) or buy retail, and are talking about shipping Wave 3 backer orders?! What the buggery is going on?
Also; you better not be pinching the idea out of my head to use Hilda with the bare head as a Navy officer 
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Post by: BrookM
Actually, Hilda will become the base decoration for one of my Knights, same with Eisenstein when she's released next year. They are both going to be Knight Nobility.
Wolfenstein will become my Imperial Navy officer of choice (acting as a count-as Space Marine captain), along with Doctor Von X becoming an Apothecary.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
This is turning into a hot mess. Oh wait...
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Post by: BrookM
Is it hot or is it..
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Post by: KalashnikovMarine
Hah! Been awhile since we saw that gif
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Post by: BrookM
Well, my track and trace is working, though I am somewhat surprised that the French postal services site doesn't have an English option.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
It's in deference to the Conquest of 1763.
Or maybe they think they are resisting colonization. They are a colonial power, after all.
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Post by: BrookM
While RH has helpfully supplied a link to Google translate it does not sadly translate the whereabouts of my stuff.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:While RH has helpfully supplied a link to Google translate it does not sadly translate the whereabouts of my stuff.
Yeah i checked a few times and i have no clue if it is in transit or still at the (striking) post office.
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Post by: BrookM
The current status is: Secur'Export - Pris en charge
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That's probably a security branch of La Poste that makes sure you're not exporting precious French exceptionalism.
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Post by: 02Laney
My wave 1 arrived today (I'd given up hope of anything arriving before Christmas). I went for 2 wave shipping with no extra bribes to help shipping along. I also decided on spincast everything, which looks like pretty good choice barring a few very minor miscasts.
My wave 1 was...
Charlie, Harry, Jinx
Drusilla Lepic
Extra Lulu
Karmina Noxx
Lieutenant Drakkan
Mimi the radio
Tania tanker
Natasha comms
KST snipers unit
JB snipers unit
IE heavy troops command
IE heavy troops troops
JB regular troops x2
JB regular troops command x2
A ton of bases
A bunch of coasters
Not bad (shame it took so bloody long!). Now the long wait for wave 2 (at least it isn't Robotech, as a ROW backer I'm still waiting - siembieda and co are just total bellcaps imho after the latest retail debacle!)
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Post by: alanmckenzie
Mine arrived this morning also. Now to go through it....
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Post by: Ouze
BrookM wrote:Well, my track and trace is working, though I am somewhat surprised that the French postal services site doesn't have an English option.
I am 100% unsurprised by this, actually.
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Post by: BrookM
 Ouze wrote: BrookM wrote:Well, my track and trace is working, though I am somewhat surprised that the French postal services site doesn't have an English option.
I am 100% unsurprised by this, actually.
Well, ze German post has such an option and when Rackham went tits up the mail service they used (I think it was called Colosmo or the such) also had an English option.
My current status is.. Pris en charge à MAUGUIO LANGUEDOC PIC
Which is something even Bing can't translate.
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Post by: migooo
hmm seems i should have paid for split shipping...
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Pris en charge means accepted by the post office, and Mauguio Languedoc is the location of said Poste office. It's right next to Montpellier.
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Post by: BrookM
You have my thanks good sir.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
The google fu was weak today, mate?
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Post by: Compel
I think this explains it...
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
Has anyone seen any of the troop boxes out in the wild - I haven't seen a single sprue shot for how they ended up cutting up those models for the ball and socket joints. Are the legs attached to the torso? How much of the figure is poseable etc?
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Post by: alanmckenzie
FrothingMuppet wrote:Has anyone seen any of the troop boxes out in the wild - I haven't seen a single sprue shot for how they ended up cutting up those models for the ball and socket joints. Are the legs attached to the torso? How much of the figure is poseable etc?
From the jail birds command squad....
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Post by: BrookM
Just to clarify, I use Bing for translations, not searching. I didn't go full idiot just yet.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:Just to clarify, I use Bing for translations, not searching. I didn't go full idiot just yet.
Bing is only good for pictures, but my tracking says the same.
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Post by: Yodhrin
You are suspicious? Or could you perhaps be jaloux?
Sorry sorry, I don't often get the chance to pull the linguist-nerd routine with Scots
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Post by: Jimsolo
Oh. I thought he actually meant he was suspicious...
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Post by: 02Laney
Iron Empire Sprue Pics... (Edit:heavy troopers)
Command Squad (some bubbles)
Troops Squad (some bubbles)
Apologies the pics aren't great - but hopefully you get the idea.
Cheers
Laney
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Post by: alanmckenzie
I wonder why they were able to send you your iron empire troops, but not mine.
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Post by: prankster
Well, as of a couple of days ago they were still waiting on IE & KST regular troopers and some heroines in metal before handling the wave 2 shipping for drop ship locations. No idea which heroines as I didn't get a list.
Personally, I'm expecting wave 2 to be quite a large box, given I went quite heavy on the troops.
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Post by: BrookM
Just checked my status on the postal site and it arrived in my country two days ago!
With a bit of luck I may have something fancy under the tree yet!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Yodhrin wrote:
You are suspicious? Or could you perhaps be jaloux?
Sorry sorry, I don't often get the chance to pull the linguist-nerd routine with Scots
Yeah, we unfortunately have the unlucky distinction of having to put up with a feminine and masculine for every single fething word. Well. Almost. SO! Happy to know Broetan is a girl. I never realized that.
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Post by: timd
Just for reference as to what is shipping now and what will shipping the final Wave 2, here is what has just shipped:
This shipment includes the following items:
Item # Description Qty
3760210020805 Lady Sigrith, Great Embalmer (IE) 1
3760210020423 #42, Cyber Zombie Bodyguard (IE) 1
3760210020843 Lieutenant Drakkan, Iron Storm Officer (IE) 1
3760210020447 Aaqila Noyakin, Heavy Gunner (KST) 1
3760210021529 Jailbirds Regular Troopers - Command Group 3
3760210021536 Jailbirds Regular Troopers - Troops 2
3760210021703 KST Heavy Troopers - Command Group 1
3760210021710 KST Heavy Troopers - Troops 1
3760210021376 Iron Empire Heavy Troopers - Command Group 1
3760210021383 Iron Empire Heavy Troopers - Troops 1
3760210021543 Jailbirds Sniper Unit 1
My final wave 2 stuff will be:
- Parker,
- Arushka,
- Ludmilla,
- KST Regular Toopers - CG,
- KST Regular Troopers - Troops x2,
- IE Regular Troopers - Troops x2,
- IE Regular Troopers - CG x2.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:Just checked my status on the postal site and it arrived in my country two days ago!
With a bit of luck I may have something fancy under the tree yet!
Mine is still at the post office
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Post by: Breotan
Mathieu Raymond wrote: Yodhrin wrote:
You are suspicious? Or could you perhaps be jaloux?
Sorry sorry, I don't often get the chance to pull the linguist-nerd routine with Scots
Yeah, we unfortunately have the unlucky distinction of having to put up with a feminine and masculine for every single fething word. Well. Almost. SO! Happy to know Broetan is a girl. I never realized that.
Hey, I copied it from a song, so sue me. Also, your excitement over my (incorrectly ascribed) gender is really creeping me out.
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Post by: BrookM
I wouldn't be too worried, it doesn't get creepy until the penguin suits are involved.
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Post by: 02Laney
@alanmckenzie - Sorry those are IE heavy trooper pics (edited) not regulars. I didn't go for the regulars (so you haven't missed out in your wave).
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
Thanks alanmckenzie and O2Laney for sharing the pics.
These look suitably impressive - my fears of crap models after only being presented renders was totally unfounded.
How have you guys found the cast quality with the resin - I went full spin cast resin myself but am a Wave 3 shipper so have no idea when to expect a parcel?
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Post by: BrookM
Got my minis just now, from a first glance the metals are everything you're told to be: excellent sculpts with sharp detail and no flaws.
Righto, I am very happy with these and I can't wait for Christmas to happen so I've got some much needed time off to work on these pretties.
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Post by: 02Laney
The spincast is pretty good close up - nice sharp detail.
Total issues... One mould slip on a jailbird - largish mould line (should be fixable), two missing sections off IE heavy shoulders (bigger issue to fix, but there are enough alternative parts I don't need to bother), shiny, slippy quality to the kst snipers (not washed yet - assuming its mould release stuff -give it a wash) and drakkan has a few tiny bubbles (easily fixed with gs).
That's about it, apart from the usual bendy resin bits that hot water will fix. All in all, I've seen the same (and worse) from Forgeworld and Mierce, and better from Victoria miniatures.
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
Cheers again for the response 02Laney
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Post by: BrookM
Finally had some time to clean up von Stroheim and stick her together. She'll make an excellent addition to the base of my count-as Castigator, I just need to find a more suitable replacement for the original grotesque vulkan cannon. Bit miffed that the pile of skulls is moulded to her foot and coat, but can't be helped I suppose. All I need now is for Elektra Eisenstein to show up soon and I'll have a pilot model for every Knight in my army.
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Post by: Azazelx
Add some putty and turn it into a pile of stones? Or sand putty and flock and turn it into dirt?
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Post by: BrookM
I am a bit tempted to add a serf to the base with a bucket of skulls.
Though I may just do that instead as suggested, while Nobles are warriors, I'd like to keep them noble and less blood thirtsty.
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Post by: Azazelx
Would the pile of skulls be easily removable if the figure was in Trollcast?
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Post by: BrookM
What's Trollcast? Resin? Some form of plastic?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Azazelx wrote:Would the pile of skulls be easily removable if the figure was in Trollcast?
it would be fairly simple to remove as it cuts ok with a blade,
but you'd need to do some resculpting around the leg/cloak simply because of the size of the contact point. Simpler to cover the skulls in greenstuff and turn them into a pile of dirt/rocks
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Post by: BrookM
Decided to stick together Doctor von X, she's a fiddly one, still not sure where the extra manipulator arm with the tea cup is supposed to go. Also, her foot also took some fiddling before I got it right and in a natural pose.
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Post by: Jimsolo
BrookM wrote:Decided to stick together Doctor von X, she's a fiddly one, still not sure where the extra manipulator arm with the tea cup is supposed to go. Also, her foot also took some fiddling before I got it right and in a natural pose.
For someone interested, how hard would magnetize get her options be?
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Post by: BrookM
Jimsolo wrote: BrookM wrote:Decided to stick together Doctor von X, she's a fiddly one, still not sure where the extra manipulator arm with the tea cup is supposed to go. Also, her foot also took some fiddling before I got it right and in a natural pose.
For someone interested, how hard would magnetize get her options be?
You'd need really, really tiny magnets to pull that off.
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Post by: Jimsolo
I have some 1/16 x 21/1000 ones. Think that'd do the trick?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Is anyone expecting the exact same image as last year to usher in the new year?
Place your bets, gentlemen. I'll even wear the penguin suit again if the do...
...so pray they don't.
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Post by: BrookM
Jimsolo wrote:I have some 1/16 x 21/1000 ones. Think that'd do the trick?
I'm sorry, but what kind of measurements are those? 
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Post by: Jimsolo
Inches? 1/16 of a mm would be pretty damn small.
Sorry, I see fractions in tools I assume inches; whole numbers, millimeters.
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Post by: BrookM
Right, all very outlandish to me!
Don't get me wrong, we were taught about inches and feet, but stuff like that, nnnnnnnnnope!
It might work, though her parts, or the parts of every angry heroine for that matter are quite fiddly and small, so expect a lot of swearing and mucking about if you want to magnetize them.
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Post by: Jimsolo
She's probably the only one I'm going to bother with. I like all her options too much to commit to any one configuration!
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Post by: perrsyu
Photo up today showing parcels ready to mail.
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Post by: BrookM
Where? If it's their Tumblr that one's a week old by now and at this point most peeps will have their shinies in hand.
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Post by: Yodhrin
 BrookM wrote:Where? If it's their Tumblr that one's a week old by now and at this point most peeps will have their shinies in hand.
Not dropship people, apparently.
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Post by: Azazelx
It's the stuff that the RH troops are made from. Some form it restic/resin hybrid (in easily understood terms), as I understand it.
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