Crazyterran wrote: I was looking at weather top, and was like 'dang, thats cool'.
Oh, its 255 quid?
'Dang, thats cool, and i cant wait to see someone else get it!'
Saw prople saying in the LotRFB that it has been selling on ebay for like £600 since it went OOP
It was £200 last time it was available for sale, which made it about $336 back with the old exchange rate... and it's £255 now which makes it $318 nowadays thanks to the low low exchange rate so it's cheaper for us in the USA
Good god I am starting to get the feeling that FW want nothing to do with BB the unpainted close ups look awful they have not even cleaned the model up.
Ordered Morg, although I am ordering everything Blood Bowl at the mo, he looks a little small, but I'll reserve judgement until he's on my work bench.
My Varag arrived yesterday, he looks great close up, really fits in with the Orc team, but I guess that's the point, but I'd agree he looks odd when comparing him to his older figure.
I'll wait for the plastic ogre and convert my own Morg. The official version is a little too 80s for my taste.
The dwarves on the other hand are splendid and somehow manage to look an order of magnitude better than they did in the film, despite being the exact same design.
em_en_oh_pee wrote:These others just look like early 2000s models.
His Master's Voice wrote:I'll wait for the plastic ogre and convert my own Morg. The official version is a little too 80s for my taste.
A sculptor at Forgeworld who can't seem to move on from other people's decades-old styles... I'm getting that funny feeling again.
The dwarves on the other hand are splendid and somehow manage to look an order of magnitude better than they did in the film, despite being the exact same design.
I think because they're in toy form, and even somewhat restrained compared to GW's recent styles.
You'd think I'd be front of the queue for sheep minis, but shoved into the Middle-Earth setting I can only think "AAAH NOOO AAAH..."
H.B.M.C. wrote: I heard that they had the choice between putting out that terrain piece again, or publishing the new IA... so they chose the terrain piece.
I'm just not sure whether to laugh and say 'well sarcasm'd', or stay hyped and hope for it to be released next week :(
Say that three times in a mirror and someone from FW will appear behind you and delete all the concept work on Dorn, forcing them to start from scratch.
Sod the books, give me the spear welding dreadnought already :p
And while they are at it, some concept/design pics of custodes terminators wouldn't go amiss.
Say that three times in a mirror and someone from FW will appear behind you and delete all the concept work on Dorn, forcing them to start from scratch.
Are there any rumors known about what HH Characters are still to come from forge world and what not. Especially now GW is producing primarchs in plastics.
These shields will go into my cart ... I will probably only paint like two Terminators but so what ... also FW should put out Cataphractii shoulder pads for IF and other chapters which do not have some yet ...
It's a mistake I make all the time, and it's a shame because "not" and "now", when swapped, completely change the meaning of the sentence in every way.
.... kinda reminds me of one of the earlier version of Talisman where one of the "special abilities" of the Beastman character was " may not wear a helmet"
Fireball wrote: These shields will go into my cart ... I will probably only paint like two Terminators but so what ... also FW should put out Cataphractii shoulder pads for IF and other chapters which do not have some yet ...
While I'd normally decry the degree of Marine-centric releases, this would be a good series to get finished off - for both types of HH terminator armour.
reds8n wrote: .... kinda reminds me of one of the earlier version of Talisman where one of the "special abilities" of the Beastman character was " may not wear a helmet"
If the default is that wearing a helmet is OK, being restricted from wearing one d9es make the character special- isn't that heading just used for all the things that break the default assumptions?
So pretty! I need all the shields. I will make a praetor with 2 shields that specializes in shield bash as he plays a lot of D&D on down days.
Those asscannons are meh. Rather simple, I guess. I suppose that makes sense as these are the prototype ones that fail on occasion, but I don't care for them.
kronk wrote: So pretty! I need all the shields. I will make a praetor with 2 shields that specializes in shield bash as he plays a lot of D&D on down days.
Those asscannons are meh. Rather simple, I guess. I suppose that makes sense as these are the prototype ones that fail on occasion, but I don't care for them.
They are not available for the imperial fists.
i want like 20 of them but a little bummed hey are right handed only.
kronk wrote: So pretty! I need all the shields. I will make a praetor with 2 shields that specializes in shield bash as he plays a lot of D&D on down days.
Those asscannons are meh. Rather simple, I guess. I suppose that makes sense as these are the prototype ones that fail on occasion, but I don't care for them.
They are not available for the imperial fists.
i want like 20 of them but a little bummed hey are right handed only.
are their left handed ss arms?
The Assault Cannons? Yea, they are available to Imperial Fists.
On the other hand, yay... resin ammo feed bending. What a pain!
I find a hair dryer makes that a breeze, just glue one side of the feed, heat once to get it fitted, heat second time to let it relax into a more natural curve.
Those shields and Assault cannons look fantastic. I think I will be needing to get a set of each and two Cataphractii Terminators squads to arm them with. Too bad they didn't release them for Tartaros.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Those shields and Assault cannons look fantastic. I think I will be needing to get a set of each and two Cataphractii Terminators squads to arm them with. Too bad they didn't release them for Tartaros.
Well, thankfully Tartaros can't take Vigil shields anyhow.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Those shields and Assault cannons look fantastic. I think I will be needing to get a set of each and two Cataphractii Terminators squads to arm them with. Too bad they didn't release them for Tartaros.
Well, thankfully Tartaros can't take Vigil shields anyhow.
Damn, you're right. That is stupid! Oh well, I can get some Cataphractii to put them on though. That also doesn't excuse the Assault Cannons.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Those shields and Assault cannons look fantastic. I think I will be needing to get a set of each and two Cataphractii Terminators squads to arm them with. Too bad they didn't release them for Tartaros.
Well, thankfully Tartaros can't take Vigil shields anyhow.
Damn, you're right. That is stupid! Oh well, I can get some Cataphractii to put them on though. That also doesn't excuse the Assault Cannons.
Well if tartaros could either shields should be differently priced for armours, notably, or there would be no reason for cataphractii with shield.
I'm surprised it took this long to sell out honestly. I ordered mine as soon as I could as I was worried about it selling out. I've been waiting so long for it I didn't want to wait again!
Nurglitch wrote: Reaper Autocannons are still Heavy 4 Twin-Linked in 30k, right? What do these have going for them beyond basic Assault Cannons?
Heavy 2 Twin-Linked. The fact they will hit more often and are higher strength is the trade off for lower strength, rending, and a minimal chance of failure on the Assault Cannon.
I'm getting more and more annoyed with GW's and FW's stocking policies, how can they possible underestimate how many books they'd need but these amounts? Not only that but they are doing this with so many items to create artificial scarcity its really getting irritating. I wanted some of the Iron warrior dice, but thought I'd wait until inferno got released to not get gouged on shipping twice, but now now the IW dice are no longer even listed and most of the other dice have sold out as well. And now the book is sold out (although temporarily, but with GW you never know).
MoD_Legion wrote: I'm getting more and more annoyed with GW's and FW's stocking policies, how can they possible underestimate how many books they'd need but these amounts? Not only that but they are doing this with so many items to create artificial scarcity its really getting irritating. I wanted some of the Iron warrior dice, but thought I'd wait until inferno got released to not get gouged on shipping twice, but now now the IW dice are no longer even listed and most of the other dice have sold out as well. And now the book is sold out (although temporarily, but with GW you never know).
MoD_Legion wrote: I'm getting more and more annoyed with GW's and FW's stocking policies, how can they possible underestimate how many books they'd need but these amounts? Not only that but they are doing this with so many items to create artificial scarcity its really getting irritating. I wanted some of the Iron warrior dice, but thought I'd wait until inferno got released to not get gouged on shipping twice, but now now the IW dice are no longer even listed and most of the other dice have sold out as well. And now the book is sold out (although temporarily, but with GW you never know).
Rick Priestley (I think) talked in an interview about how GW was almost bankrupted because they printed too many books at one point... I think his example was Gorkamorka. There's a very good reason to print conservatively.
The reason that a lot of the FW legion dice are unavailable is because the company that made them proved to be unreliable, and FW has been unable to order more. Now it looks like they're searching for a new supplier.
It's a different situation than with the limited run GW dice.
MoD_Legion wrote: I'm getting more and more annoyed with GW's and FW's stocking policies, how can they possible underestimate how many books they'd need but these amounts? Not only that but they are doing this with so many items to create artificial scarcity its really getting irritating. I wanted some of the Iron warrior dice, but thought I'd wait until inferno got released to not get gouged on shipping twice, but now now the IW dice are no longer even listed and most of the other dice have sold out as well. And now the book is sold out (although temporarily, but with GW you never know).
Whilst I fully sympathise with your point, don't forgeworld charge a percentage of the cost as postage not a fixed amount, so it makes no difference if you order items separately or together...? (Unless you spend enough to get the free shipping offer)
MoD_Legion wrote: I'm getting more and more annoyed with GW's and FW's stocking policies, how can they possible underestimate how many books they'd need but these amounts? Not only that but they are doing this with so many items to create artificial scarcity its really getting irritating. I wanted some of the Iron warrior dice, but thought I'd wait until inferno got released to not get gouged on shipping twice, but now now the IW dice are no longer even listed and most of the other dice have sold out as well. And now the book is sold out (although temporarily, but with GW you never know).
Rick Priestley (I think) talked in an interview about how GW was almost bankrupted because they printed too many books at one point... I think his example was Gorkamorka. There's a very good reason to print conservatively.
Or they could be doing small first prints, waiting for the web to point out all the errors, then correcting those in the second batch (who am I kidding, there will be no corrections).
Mymearan wrote: Rick Priestley (I think) talked in an interview about how GW was almost bankrupted because they printed too many books at one point... I think his example was Gorkamorka. There's a very good reason to print conservatively.
He was specifically referring to printing too many international versions of a product, which sold no where near as fast, leaving them with tons of unsold stock.
Mymearan wrote: Rick Priestley (I think) talked in an interview about how GW was almost bankrupted because they printed too many books at one point... I think his example was Gorkamorka. There's a very good reason to print conservatively.
He was specifically referring to printing too many international versions of a product, which sold no where near as fast, leaving them with tons of unsold stock.
Point still stands though. Books sitting in warehouse a) cost money ordered b) costs money while sitting there. Not good for the company.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Also, no sign in Inferno of rules for the Custodes Heavy Dreadnought, which is irritating (they did the same with the Taghmata book!)
Huh? FW page claims both dreadnoughts have rules in the inferno.
My focus is not on painting bigger models but that new Custodes contemptor will be bought. I got my hands on the exclusive Custodes Tribune and I will add that Contemptor as well. Beautiful miniatures and I cannot wait to see what they have in store regarding Custodes Terminators.
Between that and some of the typos/missing stuff (Misericordias have no rule) it's just as well the background is pretty ace.
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Fireball wrote: My focus is not on painting bigger models but that new Custodes contemptor will be bought. I got my hands on the exclusive Custodes Tribune and I will add that Contemptor as well. Beautiful miniatures and I cannot wait to see what they have in store regarding Custodes Terminators.
2+/4++, Can Overwatch and Sweeping Advance, but not run.
When the web guys were uploading the new Contemptor to the website they carelessly downloaded a virus that deleted all the Cyraxis master files (and nothing else, weirdly) before they could go to print. It's going to take them a few months to have one of those data recovery firms piece it back together, hence the delay.
Fires Of Cyraxus Fact #1
Did you know that since Fires was announced, GW has released two or more new armies, three campaign books, and a supplement? Forgeworld has released two new Horus Heresy books in that time as well.
Verviedi wrote: Fires Of Cyraxus Fact #1
Did you know that since Fires was announced, GW has released two or more new armies, three campaign books, and a supplement? Forgeworld has released two new Horus Heresy books in that time as well.
To be fair, FW has also released 5-6 Heresy Books and several IA books since Inferno (or at least what became Inferno) was first announced back in 2012/2013 (can't remember which).
And at least 5 new sheets of decals (most likely more, I've lost track) have been released since those for House Vyronii were showcased
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The one month I have no money, and don't need any FW goodies.
Haha yeah. Last month put like over 1000€ to FW. No way I can order now. Especially since I go to Japan in 3 weeks meaning a) my savings are so low if I order stuff from FW I have no emergency reserves b) packet would arrive probably when I'm out of country...
Ah well. Odds of winning would have been bad anyway.
BrookM wrote: It probably has something to do lottery laws again or the like.
In the US, we have lotteries in just about every state. And casinos and stuff. Really, not sure why the US was excluded. Likely it just makes the contest easier on them.
FW are really making it hard to hold off on starting a Custodes force. Inferno selling out may have been a blessing in disguise as far as my wallet and pile of shame is concerned .
BrookM wrote: It probably has something to do lottery laws again or the like.
In the US, we have lotteries in just about every state. And casinos and stuff. Really, not sure why the US was excluded. Likely it just makes the contest easier on them.
So does almost every other country/state in the world, not to mention that it wasn't so much the US was excluded, but that it's a UK only thing, so everyone was excluded. It's actually quite common for the giveaways and contests to exclude quite a few places (with Australia being one of the main ones mind you, especially for GW) due to rules/law clashes.
Rick Priestley (I think) talked in an interview about how GW was almost bankrupted because they printed too many books at one point... I think his example was Gorkamorka. There's a very good reason to print conservatively.
Got my copy of Gorkamorka as a freebie with a one year WD subscription.
LightKing wrote: so i hear that Horus Heresy: Inferno is FW best book in it's HH series
is this true?
I think it's the fastest selling, has quite a few units with rather good rules as well as having 2 of the most popular legions along with custodes in it added to the fact that it's been delayed from meaning to be book 2 over the last ~3 years, but it's also chock-full of spelling mistakes, copy-paste errors, poor rules wording, missing information and publishing errors like having warhammer world tourists as reflections in some of the page backgrounds, so take your pick on what you consider "best".
LightKing wrote: so i hear that Horus Heresy: Inferno is FW best book in it's HH series
is this true?
I think it's the fastest selling, has quite a few units with rather good rules as well as having 2 of the most popular legions along with custodes in it added to the fact that it's been delayed from meaning to be book 2 over the last ~3 years, but it's also chock-full of spelling mistakes, copy-paste errors, poor rules wording, missing information and publishing errors like having warhammer world tourists as reflections in some of the page backgrounds, so take your pick on what you consider "best".
Pressure of the customers for more stuff leading to rushed production maybe?
I wouldn't be too surprised if the Custodian Terminators are going to be a plastic kit. Writing on the wall rumor wise seems to put them as eventually getting their own faction for 40k
I love seeing all the forgeworld stuff for sure, but resin isnt the material for me either.
So the more Custodian stuff that ends up in plastic the better. And if we get real lucky after the Cadians finish getting squatted we'll get some new Solar Auxilia inspired guard models*.
(* though I would rather live in a world with TONS of guard formations in plastic, Cadian pattern guys included. But its hard to see just what is gonna happen to them now.)
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wouldn't be too surprised if the Custodian Terminators are going to be a plastic kit. Writing on the wall rumor wise seems to put them as eventually getting their own faction for 40k
Bah. While it means cheaper number of models in army is so small price with resin isn't too much of an issue anyway and resin results in higher quality details. Not nice :(
Nah, you don't need the likes of Dorn or Alpharius. Just like we don't need that next Imperial Armour book or those decals. We need other things for people to whine about.
So, I was reading through the rules for Inferno and I noticed something awesome. The Spear Dreadnought has A LOT of attacks. 4 for being a normal dreadnought, +1 for having two dreadnought close combat weapons, and another +1 when you add in the Spear. As it is worded, you do NOT give up a dreadnought close combat weapon when you add the spear, unlike the sword and shield dread.
That's 7 attacks on the charge, any 6's to hit are D-strength, and it has a good amount of ranged attacks as well. Add into that the front armor of 13, WS and BS 5, and an invulnerable save and this thing is a beast.
Sure, 240 points is expensive, but for some reason I think this dread might be worth it. Now if only they had 40k rules.
Just got my contemptor today which is nice and early. It is STUNNING. Top 3 kits FW have ever done.
The spear is completely handless so you can make your model with the non spear option. It has the three gun options for each arm and there are multiple hands designed with the spear or no spear in mind.
Well done FW, top tier kit this one. Cannot wait to get stuck in.
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wouldn't be too surprised if the Custodian Terminators are going to be a plastic kit. Writing on the wall rumor wise seems to put them as eventually getting their own faction for 40k
Bah. While it means cheaper number of models in army is so small price with resin isn't too much of an issue anyway and resin results in higher quality details. Not nice :(
The plastic Custodes are detailed enough IMO ... leave Resin to special characters (Valdor!?). Plastic Custodes Terminators would be awesome!!!
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wouldn't be too surprised if the Custodian Terminators are going to be a plastic kit. Writing on the wall rumor wise seems to put them as eventually getting their own faction for 40k
Bah. While it means cheaper number of models in army is so small price with resin isn't too much of an issue anyway and resin results in higher quality details. Not nice :(
The plastic Custodes are detailed enough IMO ... leave Resin to special characters (Valdor!?). Plastic Custodes Terminators would be awesome!!!
Agreed. Plastic terminators means more money to spend on SAggitarum upgrade kits, dreadnoughts, and vehicles. And the somewhat overpriced Pallas. Like the model, but both the size and number of parts for 60GBP is rather disappointing, compared to the slightly larger Caladius. The Coronus on the other hand is a lovely model. easy to build, well detailed, and larger than I expected. From the pictures, I expected it to be the size of a Land Raider, but it is basically a grav-Spartan.
Now waiting for the bikers, Saggitarii, Caladius Annihilator, and Moritat to make another order.
The problem with the rat ogre is that someone has been trying to use NMM techniques for skin tone and it just looks weird. Skin does not normally have specular highlights like that…
It was hyperbole. I know it's only march, but when the book was already delayed an entire year since it was supposed to be out early last year. It doesn't seem like they are very serious about it.
Gamgee wrote: It was hyperbole. I know it's only march, but when the book was already delayed an entire year since it was supposed to be out early last year. It doesn't seem like they are very serious about it.
"It was hyperbole"
"But it wasn't, I was serious"
Mind picking one buddy? Besides, it's not really like the game needs more Tau. Don't get me wrong, I understand that FW is under a separate schedule, but even they should realize that the game could use other things.
They announced the damn book nearly a year ago, and we've heard nothing since. The game needs more than just Spacemarinespacemarinespacemarine. And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Just give us something. Throw together a teaser trailer with some random art and give us a vague date of "Summer 2017" or "Winter 2018". Not silence and an endless horde of power armor.
The pragmatic business side of things would make me think 30K stuff probably outsells most Tau, Tyranid, etc. purchases from FW so they're smart to concentrate on the booming market.
Verviedi wrote: They announced the damn book nearly a year ago, and we've heard nothing since. The game needs more than just Spacemarinespacemarinespacemarine. And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Just give us something. Throw together a teaser trailer with some random art and give us a vague date of "Summer 2017" or "Winter 2018". Not silence and an endless horde of power armor.
Ironically, there's also Space Marines in Fires of Cyraxus.
They took everyone off Fires of Cyraxus to finish Inferno (which had a hell of a lot longer than a year between it being announced and released btw). If I remember correctly, it wasn't far off being done at that point. So it shouldn't be too much longer.
I heard that the delay on the Moritats was caused by a fire at the studio. They still managed to get the Moritats ready for release, but sadly the fire claimed every printed copy of Fires of Cyraxus, resulting in a whole new print run needing to be commissioned (but only after the 2nd and 3rd print run of Inferno).
Verviedi wrote: And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Well, originally it was AdMech v Tau, but then it became Red Scorpions (feat. AdMech) vs Tau.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I heard that the delay on the Moritats was caused by a fire at the studio. They still managed to get the Moritats ready for release, but sadly the fire claimed every printed copy of Fires of Cyraxus, resulting in a whole new print run needing to be commissioned (but only after the 2nd and 3rd print run of Inferno).
Also saw the destruction of their Alpharius and Dorn models, so sad.
Verviedi wrote: And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Well, originally it was AdMech v Tau, but then it became Red Scorpions (feat. AdMech) vs Tau.
Could Fires of Cyraxus be delayed due to 8th edition? That'd be a good thing for us, right... would be terrible to have it get released and immediately be out of date.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I heard that the delay on the Moritats was caused by a fire at the studio. They still managed to get the Moritats ready for release, but sadly the fire claimed every printed copy of Fires of Cyraxus, resulting in a whole new print run needing to be commissioned (but only after the 2nd and 3rd print run of Inferno).
Verviedi wrote: And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Well, originally it was AdMech v Tau, but then it became Red Scorpions (feat. AdMech) vs Tau.
Yes, and underneath those copies of FoC was all the House Vyronii decals too...
H.B.M.C. wrote: I heard that the delay on the Moritats was caused by a fire at the studio. They still managed to get the Moritats ready for release, but sadly the fire claimed every printed copy of Fires of Cyraxus, resulting in a whole new print run needing to be commissioned (but only after the 2nd and 3rd print run of Inferno).
Verviedi wrote: And half the book is Mechanicus. Don't forget that.
Well, originally it was AdMech v Tau, but then it became Red Scorpions (feat. AdMech) vs Tau.
Sigh. At least there is some AdMech. All I want is moar Mechanicus stuff, dammit!
And fluff... sweet fluff.
I don't even care if there are Red Scorpions. The presence of Marines may motivate FW to get it done faster.
As much as I hate to say it, at that moment they appear to be pretty underwhelming.
It sucks because we got a cool dread, primarch, and heads, but this seems like it might be a repeat of the IW torsos which also look like knock offs. I there are elements I like but I was expecting something more like this.
Maybe they'll look better with a paint, or maybe they just chose the ugly duckling on the bunch to photograph but we'll see.
I want to like the moritats but I hate those big ammo feeds / cables on the pistols, look dreadful and spoil the gunslinger image completely. Really like the terminators, though.
Actually I forgot, there is a pic of the painted squad floating around...
*rummages through the internet*
Here
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They definitely look better painted, just something seems off maybe it the helmet, but it might grow oonme by the time they're out and if not its easy to do a headswap.
Bull0 wrote: I want to like the moritats but I hate those big ammo feeds / cables on the pistols, look dreadful and spoil the gunslinger image completely. Really like the terminators, though.
On the contrary, I like it a lot. It visually states what the Moritat is capable of - firing a lot of times without stopping. I'm curious about a belt-fed bolt pistol option, though.
Bull0 wrote: I want to like the moritats but I hate those big ammo feeds / cables on the pistols, look dreadful and spoil the gunslinger image completely. Really like the terminators, though.
On the contrary, I like it a lot. It visually states what the Moritat is capable of - firing a lot of times without stopping. I'm curious about a belt-fed bolt pistol option, though.
That isn't on the contrary, I wasn't giving your opinion
I just noticed, the bottom right tyrant had a cybernetic leg, that's pretty nifty. The more I look at them, the more I start to see things that I like. With just abit of plasticard plating and greenstuff cabling I think they can really improve and have that feeling they can wade through fields of fire.
Now I'm all excited to get my hands on them, that didn't take long!
It is the furrowed brow on the helmets that is unnatural to me. It makes them look too angry. I know they are traitor legions and all but that pointed brow gets me.
Generalstoner wrote: It is the furrowed brow on the helmets that is unnatural to me. It makes them look too angry. I know they are traitor legions and all but that pointed brow gets me.
Looks a lot like the Ralph McQuarrie version of Vader's helmet.
i think the helmets are my favorite part of the Siege Terminator sculpts they look really mean...
a full squad of cyclone launchers is pretty cool, too...
i wonder if an Ultramarine version would have a tamer, more traditional helmet design, though???
i have a feeling that they would, and then both sides would be happy...
i love the over-the-top look of the Moritat weapons!!!
i can't wait to get a pair of these
FW always makes me happy...
until i have to prep the casts for painting, that is :(
I love those Siege Tyrant helmets, they've got a little bit of stahlhelm, and a lot of skull going on. They're the first Iron Warriors unit I feel Forgeworld has gotten "right" with the Heresy.
Bull0 wrote: I want to like the moritats but I hate those big ammo feeds / cables on the pistols, look dreadful and spoil the gunslinger image completely. Really like the terminators, though.
On the contrary, I like it a lot. It visually states what the Moritat is capable of - firing a lot of times without stopping. I'm curious about a belt-fed bolt pistol option, though.
That isn't on the contrary, I wasn't giving your opinion
It was in reference to the cables/etc "spoil[ing] the gunslinger image completely". It's an artefact of when I started that post, as that was all once sentence at first, but I think it still makes sense the way it is (even if "on the contrary, I like it" doesn't work on its own).
"So I was at the Las Vegas Open this weekend and there was a Forgeworld both. I spoke with the event Director from gams workshop and was asking him lots of questions. He wasn't able to tell me a ton about the book but when I said that I really hopped we would see more modles then what have come out in the last year he said There is a very high probability that we will see new modles from the Tau. Then I said I hope there not fast attack and he said you will be happy." ~ Chris in the Social ATT Forum FEB 07 2017.
This is star date March 14 2017 and these are the continuing adventures of the forum dakka. It's continuing mission to find a non-space marine FW release. This book is approaching mythical status. I wish they would just say yes or no. Delayed or not. All this waiting is killing me and if I knew it wasn't any chance of being soon I would stop worrying about it.
So far I've got a burgeoning Heresy era force, lots of Cult Mechanicus, plenty Skitarii, four Knights and an Ordinatus.
Want moar.
Speaking of moar, must remember to pick up another box of Skitarii. Got the Hoplite upgrade set in need of bodies. And I really want to try Haywiring my Ork opponent's Stompa to death with them....
It's not a space marine kit. Only space marine kits matter now, anything else is "while stock lasts". So what if it's a nice looking model for a popular army, and even one with good rules (IIRC), if they dump the Hornet molds they can free up space for another set of space marine shoulder pads.
The IW terminators are dull ... I will pass on them ... I already have IW Cataphractii shoulder pads and will use them on my plastic termies from the BoC box.
Not sure about the Moritat ... I think one as a Raven Guard will make his way on my painting table ...
Hopefully the second printing of Inferno will be available soon ...
It's not a space marine kit. Only space marine kits matter now, anything else is "while stock lasts". So what if it's a nice looking model for a popular army, and even one with good rules (IIRC), if they dump the Hornet molds they can free up space for another set of space marine shoulder pads.
Think it's more likely that the mold is buggered. Not scrapping it because space marines. Lose the tin foil hat, man.
angelofvengeance wrote: Think it's more likely that the mold is buggered. Not scrapping it because space marines. Lose the tin foil hat, man.
Molds can be replaced. If this was an important space marine kit they'd make a new set of molds from the original master (or even a cast from the existing inventory) and continue production. But because it's only an Eldar kit it's not a priority, and any inconvenience at all means the end of production. And it's hardly "tinfoil hat" when it's pretty clear that, as 30k has become their entire focus, stuff from all the other product lines has been disappearing. IIRC there have even been explicit comments from FW staff about having limited space for inventory and molds, and discontinuing stuff to make room for 30k.
angelofvengeance wrote: Think it's more likely that the mold is buggered. Not scrapping it because space marines. Lose the tin foil hat, man.
Molds can be replaced. If this was an important space marine kit they'd make a new set of molds from the original master (or even a cast from the existing inventory) and continue production. But because it's only an Eldar kit it's not a priority, and any inconvenience at all means the end of production. And it's hardly "tinfoil hat" when it's pretty clear that, as 30k has become their entire focus, stuff from all the other product lines has been disappearing. IIRC there have even been explicit comments from FW staff about having limited space for inventory and molds, and discontinuing stuff to make room for 30k.
If there's demand for Hornets then they'll consider bringing them back I'm sure.
Space Marine stuff gets discontinued too. Lucius pattern drop pod hath snuffed it fairly recently.
angelofvengeance wrote: If there's demand for Hornets then they'll consider bringing them back I'm sure.
Not once models go "sold out" and disappear from the site. That's permanent death, and I can't think of any that have come back from it.
Space Marine stuff gets discontinued too. Lucius pattern drop pod hath snuffed it fairly recently.
That's one of the few exceptions, probably because most people just used normal drop pods as a proxy. Meanwhile model after model from non-marine product lines has disappeared. And support in rules, new products, etc, for anything but 30k has dropped to almost nothing. Aside from a couple Tau releases and a promise that someday there will be another 40k book it's been all 30k for a very long time.
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goundry wrote: You never know if it's that popular they may be porting it over to a plastic kit to go with the new eldar
This hasn't happened in a long time. GW figured out that there's no reason to release a plastic version of a resin kit (like the old Valkyrie, Piranha, etc) that people have already bought when they can make up a whole new plastic kit that nobody owns yet. The only exception is the plastic 30k space marines. And with things like flyers GW has had opportunities to use existing FW designs and rejected them in favor of new (and IMO much less appealing) plastic kits.
angelofvengeance wrote: Think it's more likely that the mold is buggered. Not scrapping it because space marines. Lose the tin foil hat, man.
Molds can be replaced. If this was an important space marine kit they'd make a new set of molds from the original master (or even a cast from the existing inventory) and continue production. But because it's only an Eldar kit it's not a priority, and any inconvenience at all means the end of production. And it's hardly "tinfoil hat" when it's pretty clear that, as 30k has become their entire focus, stuff from all the other product lines has been disappearing. IIRC there have even been explicit comments from FW staff about having limited space for inventory and molds, and discontinuing stuff to make room for 30k.
Well it's case of selling what customers want. If they want more HH than eldar then they would be stupid to sell eldar rather than HH.
angelofvengeance wrote: If there's demand for Hornets then they'll consider bringing them back I'm sure.
Not once models go "sold out" and disappear from the site. That's permanent death, and I can't think of any that have come back from it.
Space Marine stuff gets discontinued too. Lucius pattern drop pod hath snuffed it fairly recently.
That's one of the few exceptions, probably because most people just used normal drop pods as a proxy. Meanwhile model after model from non-marine product lines has disappeared. And support in rules, new products, etc, for anything but 30k has dropped to almost nothing. Aside from a couple Tau releases and a promise that someday there will be another 40k book it's been all 30k for a very long time.
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goundry wrote: You never know if it's that popular they may be porting it over to a plastic kit to go with the new eldar
This hasn't happened in a long time. GW figured out that there's no reason to release a plastic version of a resin kit (like the old Valkyrie, Piranha, etc) that people have already bought when they can make up a whole new plastic kit that nobody owns yet. The only exception is the plastic 30k space marines. And with things like flyers GW has had opportunities to use existing FW designs and rejected them in favor of new (and IMO much less appealing) plastic kits.
Actually a couple of weeks ago the D.Eldar Tantalus went sold out just as I got the funds for one(I am pretty sure I was the only person to notice,poor D.Eldar), I emailed FW a begging letter asking if they had 1 last one left around somewhere. They got back to me saying it was being repackaged and a week later it reappeared.
The dreaded Sold out is not a 100% death sentence, beside eldar corsairs and shadow spectres just show out of stock but still been missing nearly a year.
angelofvengeance wrote: If there's demand for Hornets then they'll consider bringing them back I'm sure.
Not once models go "sold out" and disappear from the site. That's permanent death, and I can't think of any that have come back from it.
Space Marine stuff gets discontinued too. Lucius pattern drop pod hath snuffed it fairly recently.
That's one of the few exceptions, probably because most people just used normal drop pods as a proxy. Meanwhile model after model from non-marine product lines has disappeared. And support in rules, new products, etc, for anything but 30k has dropped to almost nothing. Aside from a couple Tau releases and a promise that someday there will be another 40k book it's been all 30k for a very long time.
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goundry wrote: You never know if it's that popular they may be porting it over to a plastic kit to go with the new eldar
This hasn't happened in a long time. GW figured out that there's no reason to release a plastic version of a resin kit (like the old Valkyrie, Piranha, etc) that people have already bought when they can make up a whole new plastic kit that nobody owns yet. The only exception is the plastic 30k space marines. And with things like flyers GW has had opportunities to use existing FW designs and rejected them in favor of new (and IMO much less appealing) plastic kits.
Actually a couple of weeks ago the D.Eldar Tantalus went sold out just as I got the funds for one(I am pretty sure I was the only person to notice,poor D.Eldar), I emailed FW a begging letter asking if they had 1 last one left around somewhere. They got back to me saying it was being repackaged and a week later it reappeared.
The dreaded Sold out is not a 100% death sentence, beside eldar corsairs and shadow spectres just show out of stock but still been missing nearly a year.
Slinky wrote: DKOK Grenadiers have been "out of stock" for an age too
Technically, there's a difference between things going "out of stock" and being "sold out" :\ Speaking of "TEMPORARY out of stock", FW Corsair upgrade kit's been that way for a year now. And yet, we still hope for Red Scorpions&Mechanicum vs TAU...
That model may be the clincher for me. I have been wanting to play 30K for a while, but couldn't pick a Legion to play (cause they all look cool!). But with that helmet, oh man... I am now thinking Iron Warriors.
I came in here looking for news on the Hornet. Have to say I'm reassured by the story about the D.Eldar Tantalus. I might try emailing FW later about the Hornet myself. Will get back to you all if they reply.
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Surprised nobody got to this yet, a bunch of new Hobbit stuff up today. It's a shame nobody plays the game, the models are certainly better than the AoS trash GW has been putting out lately.
Where's the bait? Everything I said was a sincere opinion: the new Hobbit stuff looks good, the AoS stuff looks like trash, and it's a shame the community seems to have collectively ignored the LOTR games (which are better than WHFB ever was and have way better models than any of GW's other fantasy stuff).
I have no complaints, other than "how is that chest armor staying up?". Dwarves are very good, as well.
Now that I have expressed positivity, I'll return to mentally bitching about FoC.
Why is Forge World wasting time on this dead franchise? It befuddles me. People are clamoring for Fires of Cyraxus, more Heresy models, and Xenos stuff... but here we are, getting models for a game pretty much no one plays.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Why is Forge World wasting time on this dead franchise? It befuddles me. People are clamoring for Fires of Cyraxus, more Heresy models, and Xenos stuff... but here we are, getting models for a game pretty much no one plays.
Siiiiiiiiiiigh.
Because it has quite a considerable following and is far from dead. And makes a pleasant change from yet more marines and heresy. Seriously, getting to boring with the umpteenth marine variation.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Why is Forge World wasting time on this dead franchise? It befuddles me. People are clamoring for Fires of Cyraxus, more Heresy models, and Xenos stuff... but here we are, getting models for a game pretty much no one plays.
Siiiiiiiiiiigh.
Because it has quite a considerable following and is far from dead. And makes a pleasant change from yet more marines and heresy. Seriously, getting to boring with the umpteenth marine variation.
It must be a hit overseas, but I don't hear or see anyone in the States talk about or play it.
Oh it certainly has it following in the states. Off the top of my head there's the DC hobbit league which is pretty much twinned with the GBHL. If you're not interested in the game and don't look, I'm not surprised you don't know about it.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Oh it certainly has it following in the states. Off the top of my head there's the DC hobbit league which is pretty much twinned with the GBHL. If you're not interested in the game and don't look, I'm not surprised you don't know about it.
I am not interested in Infinity either, but I see that getting played and promoted. So that isn't exactly true. I literally have yet to see anyone play Hobbit or hear about any events with it. Must just be for the dedicated player. *shrug*
So a couple of videos from the Horus Heresy Weekender have been uploaded to the Warhammer Community page. Probably doesn't tell you anything you don't already know, but it's interesting.
em_en_oh_pee wrote: Why is Forge World wasting time on this dead franchise? It befuddles me. People are clamoring for Fires of Cyraxus, more Heresy models, and Xenos stuff... but here we are, getting models for a game pretty much no one plays.
Siiiiiiiiiiigh.
Even if it's for a system you don't play, more models means more bitz for conversions.
Every topic has to have a person crying about something getting picked over another thing.
Verv is in this one, Peregrine is in another......
They are as tired of waiting for the ONE thing that will make their life complete, almost as much as the rest of us are tired of listening to them complain.
I'm disappointed in general about FW pushing Marines so hard, at the expense of all else. Even more disappointed at the complete lack of news about FoC, and the rumor that even more marines take spotlight in it. I'll bake myself a Tau/Mechanicus cake on the year anniversary of it being announced.
Erren wrote:And let's not even get started on the Vyronni transfers, that were shown in a completed form in September 2015.
Great, now I am triggered. Thanks!
Verviedi wrote:I'm sure Vyronii will be released with FoC, they're both tangetially related to Mechanicus.
They were more related to the HH4 Conquest release that introduced us to the Questoris list. Or more related to the recent Imperialis Red Book with the Questoris list in it... and it is a HH House, not a modern one.
And somehow they got the Makabius ones out in little time, but Vyronii seems just impossible to produce (despite them being finished).
I understand the frustration. IMHO, they should have started with Angelus instead of doing it as the 8th book.....
However, if you ran a business that made things, and some of those things sold 1000 times more than one of your other things.... which of those things would you make?
TalonZahn wrote: I understand the frustration. IMHO, they should have started with Angelus instead of doing it as the 8th book.....
However, if you ran a business that made things, and some of those things sold 1000 time more than one of your other things.... which of those things would you make?
Soooo, yeah...
I get that when regards models - what to release, what to invest in, how many to produce, scheduling, etc.
I do not get that when it comes to decals, which are literally just printed out to order!
EDIT: I can't be sure you were talking to me. If not, disregard. I am just venting ....again/still.
TalonZahn wrote: I understand the frustration. IMHO, they should have started with Angelus instead of doing it as the 8th book.....
However, if you ran a business that made things, and some of those things sold 1000 times more than one of your other things.... which of those things would you make?
Soooo, yeah...
I severely doubt that a HH book will sell a thousand times better than FoC. It may sell slightly better, yes, but Tau, Mechanicum, Mechanicus, and Marine players are a larger market than HH players.
Peregrine wrote: Surprised nobody got to this yet, a bunch of new Hobbit stuff up today. It's a shame nobody plays the game, the models are certainly better than the AoS trash GW has been putting out lately.
Nice looking models but not enough poses and I'm guessing they're going to be too expensive.
A big part of what made LOTR great (for me at least) was that for the price of a 40k or WHFB army I could buy several forces for LOTR, the models looked good AND even though they were monopose there was usually enough variety that I didn't really mind (infantry typically came with 12 poses, cavalry with 6). Being monopose actually meant a lot less work in putting them together and painting them.
The resin models look nice, but fall down on price and variety of poses.
Imperial Armour 1: 2nd Edition no longer available from what I can see. IA13 also missing? Looks like they may be attempting to clear out older books, maybe ready for 8th edition versions?
My FLGS owner (who has connections to someone who knows a guy who works at FW, or something like that) recently mentioned FW is planning to get to terra sooner rather than latter, with the Battle for Terra coming early 2018. They will then head back and the books after that women will all be before Terra, up until they add to Istvann III again.
TalonZahn wrote: I understand the frustration. IMHO, they should have started with Angelus instead of doing it as the 8th book.....
However, if you ran a business that made things, and some of those things sold 1000 times more than one of your other things.... which of those things would you make?
Soooo, yeah...
I severely doubt that a HH book will sell a thousand times better than FoC. It may sell slightly better, yes, but Tau, Mechanicum, Mechanicus, and Marine players are a larger market than HH players.
Let's not forget that "HH player" isn't a single market, either. Even the few things available to all Legions won't necessarily be attractive to everyone, while faction-specific models have a relatively narrow slice of the market. I can't imagine that 30k Custodes will really outsell all 40k releases combined.
Thank you for that note. So HH: Inferno appeals to players of three different factions (Wolves, TS, Talons) in 30k, whilst Fires appeals to 40k Marine, Mechanicus, and Tau players.
Marines and Tau are very large groups, from what I've seen, so that's even better.
My FLGS owner (who has connections to someone who knows a guy who works at FW, or something like that) recently mentioned FW is planning to get to terra sooner rather than latter, with the Battle for Terra coming early 2018. They will then head back and the books after that women will all be before Terra, up until they add to Istvann III again.
Not happening. Angelus is the next book and that won't be out early 2018, let alone before that in time for Terra to come then.
My FLGS owner (who has connections to someone who knows a guy who works at FW, or something like that) recently mentioned FW is planning to get to terra sooner rather than latter, with the Battle for Terra coming early 2018. They will then head back and the books after that women will all be before Terra, up until they add to Istvann III again.
Not happening. Angelus is the next book and that won't be out early 2018, let alone before that in time for Terra to come then.
Here in Germany lotr/hobbit is more alive than it ever was. Having a look at the tournament schedule it looks as if the TOP4 games in Germany are X-Wing, 40K, 9th age, hobbit. I wouldn't call the game dead - not anymore at least.
Really liking those dwarfs - but then all the dwarfs in the range are beautiful with some outliers like the rangers.
Also I'm happy that I don't like the trolls that much. If there was one without helmet but with club I'd like it
TalonZahn wrote: I understand the frustration. IMHO, they should have started with Angelus instead of doing it as the 8th book.....
However, if you ran a business that made things, and some of those things sold 1000 times more than one of your other things.... which of those things would you make?
Soooo, yeah...
I severely doubt that a HH book will sell a thousand times better than FoC. It may sell slightly better, yes, but Tau, Mechanicum, Mechanicus, and Marine players are a larger market than HH players.
I would guess the HH campaign books are more profitable as they are now £21 more expensive than the most expensive IA book, which was made by combining 3 of the old editions into 1 extra large book. While I can see that the HH are going to be more expensive to produce I do not believe it costs that much more to produce the HH books... Then you have that nearly all of the rules in the HH campaign books are for brand new models, so the HH books are driving new model sales and development, where as FoC will be mostly updated/40k rules for existing models that a large chunk of the buyers' of the books already own.
Doesn't mean as a Mechanicum player I'm not fed up that FoC isn't already out.
I honestly, seriously doubt we'll see Fires of Cyraxus before 8th Edition arrives. It'd be stupidity to release it at the tail end of 7th in addition to being completely frustrating as a player to see it released and then, within months, getting invalidated requiring a FAQ to work with the new edition. And we know how fast Forgeworld put out their FAQs...
zedmeister wrote: I honestly, seriously doubt we'll see Fires of Cyraxus before 8th Edition arrives. It'd be stupidity to release it at the tail end of 7th in addition to being completely frustrating as a player to see it released and then, within months, getting invalidated requiring a FAQ to work with the new edition. And we know how fast Forgeworld put out their FAQs...
I, personally, hope 8th comes soon. If FoC was started for 7th edition, delayed, and had to be rewritten for 8th, that's actually a reasonable excuse for this wait.
If they release a book designed for 7th edition about a month before 8th is about to drop, I'd be even more annoyed about that than I am about the book being delayed for a year.
Oh, of course, I won't murder anyone if Fires isn't released within a certain time frame, and I'm hardly averse to waiting. It could be said that FW, I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed.
That actually gives us hope, because 1/3 of FoC is allowing us to take 30k units in 40k. And there's Space Marines in FoC, so hopefully that makes FW consider working on it more.
VeteranNoob wrote: Managed to hold off on a loyalist army but we need more locally so Angelus is gonna make me collect Dark Angels. ugh, I feel such shame
As you should! The only acceptable wings on a helmet are of the bat variety.
VeteranNoob wrote: Managed to hold off on a loyalist army but we need more locally so Angelus is gonna make me collect Dark Angels. ugh, I feel such shame
VeteranNoob wrote: Managed to hold off on a loyalist army but we need more locally so Angelus is gonna make me collect Dark Angels. ugh, I feel such shame
(although temporarily, but with 
(who am I kidding, there will be no corrections).
