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Marneus Calgar
5x assault terminators all w. TH & SS
LRC w. EA

Darnath Lysander
5x assault terminators all w. TH & SS
LRC w. EA

10x tactical Marines w. multi-melta/meltagun/power fist - rhino
10x tactical Marines w. multi-melta/meltagun/power fist - rhino

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Yay he took my advice and it's better.

I don't like how you sucked out of troops for points and honestly I think Lyasander is a waste I would much rather have Kantor for his bubble.

How about

Marneus Calgar
5 terms
LRC

Kantor
5 terms
LRC

5 TAC- combi melta or combi flamer and razorback maybe fist?

5 Tac repeat the above

5 sniper scouts

5 more sniper scouts

2 attack bikes with MM's

Don't know about PTS but it looks better.

I hope I have the opportunity to play you in GT this year.

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much bettter, less hate

You doubled your combat ability which is great. I'd probably drop calgar for a chaplain and use the rest of the points on multi-melta bikes or speeders but it's much better and will be far more competitive.

Green Blow Fly wrote:I hope I have the opportunity to play you in GT this year.

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As do I...

Cool!

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The army is too small for my liking.
If the enemy can down one LRC the squad becomes stranded. A fast enemy army can avoid footslogging Assault Termies.
Still not a power build. But a nice try.

Your list has many weakness' Low troop, iniative 1 guys, Heavy Assault list which will loose out against Eldar. I think SM should Balance in Tournaments.

The Assault vehicle stance works so keep it.
Drop 1 of the Land Raider Crusader & Guys inside.

5x assault terminators all w. TH & SS
LRC w. EA
Leaves you with this.
Then use Rhino and other mobile troops combined with the Land Raider Crusader to make a spearhead i.e. Sternguard in a Rhino because they have troop killing power and objective winning potential.
Make 2 or more static troop choices for objectives.

I like this list better from a tactical point of view but miss Telion and Chronus. I will stick with this list for the time being and see how it works with some play testing. Thanks for the feedback.

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On a side note I have recently played a couple of games with my BA army (2x Baal) versus dark eldar and have found the Baals to be very resilient versus the dark lance... so I figure the same should hold true for the LRC versus bright lances. Also eldar can't field as many bright lances as dark eldar with the dark lance. I played a 1250 point game versus dark eldar yesterday... He must have had at least 8 dark lances... didn't lose either Baal.

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Telion and Chronus.

These guys hardly pay their points back. Nice gimmicks.
I'd stay away from them.

Telion can be nice, i mean who doesnt love BS 6 ML!

and have to agree, alot better but the low model count is worrying, maybe drop pods instead of rhino's for marines and sternguard instead of terminators in drop pods.

I'd give some of Lysander's mob some lightning claws to get some 1st round kills. One, maybe even two would work

No way I would switch out termies for sternguard. This list is for dealing with nob bikers.

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Ahh just curious how would you counter lash, or a landraider spam?

Well, he has an orbital bombardment, and lots of thunder hammers, though it might be good to give the LRC's multi meltas

Thunder hammers are str 8 and can only glance a landraider.

oops... I should have been more specific, i was talking about Lysander's thunder hammer

Darnath's hammer is S10 and +1 for AP. Both tactical squads pack three meltas... MM/meltagun/combi-melta.

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Has Lysander got enternal warrior or is he immune to instant death?

and hes T4 right.

IMO this list will get destroyed by triple vindicator armys or guard.

Most guard armies have trouble bolwing up a raider now there's 2 and, only 1 of them has to make it to kill everything.

This army laughs at three vindis.

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This list looks much more solid than the last one. Two assault-y squads will beat out one anytime. Chronus and Telion were cool, but i agree with others that their points were better spent elsewhere.

My real question now is how worth it is calgar in this list? Maybe a termy armoured chaplain would be more cost-effective, and free up some room for some more troops. Maybe some scout snipers or something.

I still wouldn't call this a powerbuild, but in the hands of a good general I think it could lay some serious hurt on most opponents. Just make sure to hide those rhinos

I still dont think that this list is particularly a "Power" list. I don't even see it doing particularly well in tournement due to it being so obvious and 1 dimensional.

It's definatly better however with the second LR. How much better?......dunno.

keep the list GBF i would only switch the one assault temy squad with marneus to a shooty termy squad. they can still go into combat but then they would have storm bolters to weeken the enemy mainly hoards. just a thought.

Deathmachine that is not a bad idea at all. Thank you for the advice.

"I still dont think that this list is particularly a "Power" list. I don't even see it doing particularly well in tournement due to it being so obvious and 1 dimensional."



I just hit the IGNORE button.

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So its another...

"I'm gonna post my list but dont be mean to me and say its anything less than perfect or I'll be upset."

....thread.

No, problem.

Might as well hit that ignore button one more time, cause that list is horrible garbage....still.

La la la...

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