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If you think about it, only one faction in the whole of 40K is even close to "Good" and that would be the Tau Empire. And maybe, just maybe, the Eldar.

Think about it-

Followers of the Emperor (Humans) Are sole content on destroying anything alien, heretic or machine; What I'm saying is, essentially, the Emperor is right-winged.

Next are the Necrons who, quite obviously, are evil. Set out to destroy all life, anyone who calls them good needs help. And if you ask me, they are most likely to come out on top.

The Orks live for war and killing, and are bred for the fight.

Tyranids are, by instinct, ferocious. Some may argue they are not evil, but... no. They have supposedly consumed galaxies, and the universe is better off without them.

Chaos is hell-bent on blowing up, burning, ripping and shooting everything. The living embodiment of evil, down to the last stinking Nurgling.

Dark Eldar are the pirates of space, with a sprinkle of witchery and a slight hint of chaos. You simply can't call them friendly.


As for the Eldar, they fight to save their dying race, only to save the craftworld.

And the Tau, they only fight to bring peace. But in the 41st millennium, guns speak louder than words.

What do you people think?

Tau kill anyone/anything that refuses to join the cause of the Greater Good.

Meaning, everyone else.


They're just as bad as the Imperium in some ways, except they're not also trying to kill each other because one of them might be an unregistered psyker or alien...


But I do agree, in the Grimdark of 40k- Tau are about as close as you could come to "good" in the sense of black&white morality.

The Imperium of Man is "good" in the sense that they're trying to preserve humanity, however misguided and quite likely corrupt they all may be.

It all depends on your human point of view. To orks, they are the only good because they are always willing to do 'propa fightin.'

But yeah, from a westernized moral standpoint, I'd rather live with the Tau than anywhere else in that universe, just based on the apparent benevolence of their mantra and their fair(ish) society.

Commie says what? Enjoy sterilization and work camps.

What? Better than annihilation and death camps. / Joke

But yeah, even the Tau have their not so pretty side. They have to enforce their policy somehow, right? I remember a reference in a DoW game that the human populations of the conquered worlds just kind petered out after a few generations, but I haven't actually read any hard fluff on forced sterilizations or work camps. I was under the impression that humans were allowed to go on with their lives so long as the contributed to the Greater Good (which is an ultimatum really).

Well, their birth rates dropped of precipitously because most were segregated into gender-specific "re-education camps", where they are shown to be fed wholesale to giant monsters. And then the voice strongly implies there may have been some biological/chemical trickery going on as well.

You "forgot" to tell that it was mentioned in a non-GW product ... in a parallel universe where the planet is won by Tau (didn't happen in the 40k universe) ... narrated by an Imperial narrator .... as the third likeliest version why females separated from males don't get so many children (ask Mom and Dad where babies come from )

So you "forgot" an awful lot, just for some Tau hatemongering. Happens when hate is stronger than reason.

I would say that the nids are the least “evil” race. They

have no emotions, therefore no conscious,

therefore they are incapable of making a decisions

based on morality, therefore are incapable of being

evil.

Interesting supposition. Saying a Tyranid is evil is like saying a lion or shark is evil. No matter how many people they devour, they are merely following their instincts with no malicious intent. The Tyranids just happen to be a lot better at it. hmmm... I'll buy it!

Start a poll of who is the least evil race and I'll choose Tyranids. (Notice: least evil, not most benevolent. Being not evil does not make one good.)

Hmmm but the Tyranids are being guided by the intellect of the hive mind who suppresses their natural instincts and makes them do stuff like bum rush an IG gunline. I suppose the question would be, is the hive mind following its instincts, or is it a malicious conscious independent entity.

And for some reason I just got a mental image of an evil ancient psychic shark using telepathy to coordinate his sharkling attacks on a surfer beach.

Tau are "good" in the sense that they stick "Join us or" before "die".

'Nids aren't evil, just hungry.

Yeah nids aren't evil, they are just a bunch of bugs on steroids travelling on spacships who just happen to have the munchies.

Go my team, boo your team!

Tau hive cities look nicer than human ones.

Orks Are not evil they are just following their genetic programing.

I don't get it, most people have already decided that Tau are the least grimdark race, why bother making a thread making a case for them?

Everyone else has motives, Nids can't help being hungry and under the Hive Mind.

Eldar will murder anyone else to keep their race alive, therefore Evil.

The only "good" races are the Nids and Orks, because neither actually has any sort of morality.

It is, quite clearly, Dark Eldar.

Whatever, depends what you define as "evil" doesn't it? The Dark Eldar are not actively helping Chaos, therefore they are not as evil as other races.

I'd quite happily live on a Craftworld, seeing as they'll avoid wars unless the strands of fate tell them so.

well i had a tough choice between Nids and Tau.

Tau are "good" but just a little socially racist (or speciesist? )

but the tyranids will stop at nothing to consime the galaxy.

I think i'd rather live under Tau's misguided socialism than be consumed by a thousand drooling jaws devouring the souls of the innocent.
Juss sayin'....

The Imperium and the Tau are not all that different, except they use different methods of population control
"re-education camps" v.s. "exterminatus"
juss sayin'.....

The orks actually. They dont fight for any other reason than fighting itself. The Tau I'd call as evil as chaos to be honest with their ethnic cleansing (tricking people into being sterilized if the empire want to control their population by lacing drugs in their food supplies).

Please stop quoting DoW as canon. It is not a GW-released product and any storyline in the game is irrelevant because it is different for each and every race.
There are also other explanations for the birth rate dropping than "chemical sterilization" that the ~imperial~ voice implies.


I would agree that Orks are not necessarily evil or malicious, they're effectively just having fun in their own way... They even respect other race's warriors that best them (see: Yarrick and Ghazzy).
To best analyze them, they're children. They're playing and having fun how they were programmed and raised to have fun.


Every other race is serving a somewhat sinister purpose, it's just that Tau have a more positive air of "uniting all races in peace and harmony".


Tyranids may not be naturally evil, but the Hive Mind seems to be an utterly evil and malicious entity... The simple fact that there are special characters that display some sort of intelligence (Swarmlord) in the book makes a case that the Hive Mind's creatures are somewhat self-aware when they're synaptic and the Hive Mind shows tactics and strategy.
The only case for Tyranids not being evil is that without the Hive Mind's influence the little buggers revert to animal instinct.


Dark Eldar are evil in the sense that they delight in perverse activities and slavery. Generally evil, but they do try to avoid any sort of feeding the chaos gods (does hiding within the warp prevent your actions giving them power?)...


Eldar are evil in so much as they are trying to preserve their race and are very aloof and secretive. They're only evil because they care little for the affairs of humanity and do little to outright help when their farseers witness future events and do little to stop tragedies.

I think Tau because they say 'join us or die.'

Whereas;

The Imperium say 'worship the emperor human or die heretic/xenos/witch'
The Dark Eldar say 'Be tortured then die'
The Tyranids say 'Yum, food'
The Eldar say 'be manipulated by us and then die'
The Orks say 'Lets have a fight lads - time for you to die!'
The Chaos Gods say 'Join us and burn in hell for eternity!'
C'tan say 'Yum, souls'

PS. Well, I guess the Orks aren't THAT evil in retrospect. Still, I think they are more evil than Tau because they will fight (and try to kill you) anyway. Again, unlike Tau; the only race that will give you (no matter what species) a choice OTHER than dying!

I think that you want to apply modern (western) morality to the world of Warhammer 40k. And if we want to do that, then sure. Although your original post seems to indicate that 'right wing' is synonymous with evil. Which...it isn't. I'm sorry, but in a world with orks who want to kill me for fun, C'tan who want to kill me for my soul, Eldar who want to kill me because they think I am a psychopathic primitive, Dark Eldar who want to enslave and then kill me, and Tau who want me to work for them in their little brainwashed cult, I will happily side with the 'right wing' side that thinks that the concerns of the human race should come first.

But hey, that's probably because I'm a human. If I were a Tau (or an ork or necron) I would probably think differently.

Orks, as they are not 'evil' in anyway.

It has been mentioned before that orks are like children when it comes to being evil. Children sometimes break toys when they're playing, sometimes orks break bones/ skulls/ tanks/ etc... when they are playing.

They have no evil intent other than finding a good fight and stomping on some 'eads.

In_Theory wrote:Tau kill anyone/anything that refuses to join the cause of the Greater Good.

Meaning, everyone else.


They're just as bad as the Imperium in some ways, except they're not also trying to kill each other because one of them might be an unregistered psyker or alien...


But I do agree, in the Grimdark of 40k- Tau are about as close as you could come to "good" in the sense of black&white morality.

The Imperium of Man is "good" in the sense that they're trying to preserve humanity, however misguided and quite likely corrupt they all may be.

not trying to kill each other? are you kidding? have you never heard of O'Shovah? he hates his own empire as much as he hates the orks

Ultramarines are the least evil of course.

Seriously poll sucks without a cupcake option.. I am disappointed op.

not trying to kill each other? are you kidding? have you never heard of O'Shovah? he hates his own empire as much as he hates the orks

Maybe YOU should read some fluff once in a while. Farsight doesn't hate other tau at all...

That blade that he has isn't necessarily good for his health and the Farsight Enclaves are not known for their aggresivness against other tau. It is prety much much a 'I don't need you anymore' kind of thing with a kid and his parents.

you just proved what i stated by saying that