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Wasn't Summer of Magic, more DE and Tomb Kings 2nd wave pegged for August? I'm personally more expecting September-October for the 'crons.

tetrisphreak wrote:Tesla will probably be akin to the IG punisher, tyranid devourers, DE splinter cannons, etc -- High volume of fire with an average strength and little or no AP. This is all supposition, not confirmed, but according to Yak's posts for every 6 'to hit' you get 2 free extra hits. That means potentially you will hit more targets than you have shots, which is awesome, but we yet don't know the profile of the gun. It might be assault 1, 12", but i think more likely it'll be in the realm of Assault 2 18". We will hopefully get some more rumor confirmations about that, i'm glad I don't glue my green rods into my gauss flayers just in case the color is the guns differentiating factor.

Im painting my gauss tubes, So I can either wash them in the correct color, or make the bases or just tell my opponent this unit has X upgrade. extra hits on rolls of 6s eh....now THAT could be a cool special rule. Specially if the unit teleports within range of the enemy to unload on them. Might not be so hot against hordes, Id rather have volume then a chance for more hits, but against MEQs, that might be the butter zone

I think "Incoming!" is due tomorrow

Just read the 5/5 update... this sounds fantastic. Must resist...

KingCracker wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:Tesla will probably be akin to the IG punisher, tyranid devourers, DE splinter cannons, etc -- High volume of fire with an average strength and little or no AP. This is all supposition, not confirmed, but according to Yak's posts for every 6 'to hit' you get 2 free extra hits. That means potentially you will hit more targets than you have shots, which is awesome, but we yet don't know the profile of the gun. It might be assault 1, 12", but i think more likely it'll be in the realm of Assault 2 18". We will hopefully get some more rumor confirmations about that, i'm glad I don't glue my green rods into my gauss flayers just in case the color is the guns differentiating factor.

Im painting my gauss tubes, So I can either wash them in the correct color, or make the bases or just tell my opponent this unit has X upgrade. extra hits on rolls of 6s eh....now THAT could be a cool special rule. Specially if the unit teleports within range of the enemy to unload on them. Might not be so hot against hordes, Id rather have volume then a chance for more hits, but against MEQs, that might be the butter zone

Well essentially getting 3 hits for every 6, and only missing on 1's and 2's, if the gun is assault 2 then 7 models in my test rolling get between 14 and 16 hits every volley of fire. At strength 5 ap -, or even strength 4 ap - that's going to take between 7 and 10 orks out every time they shoot, so I say not so bad against hordes at all actually. Again this is all just guessing, but if the weapons pan out like that I like it. A lot.

I do not think that different colours will mean different weapon types. A gauss flayer will remain so, these other weapons must have different designs etc and would probably not be wielded so easily. Bolters, lascannons, meltas are not simple colour switches a particle gun will look different to a tesla gun.

Logic aside I personally think the necrons need more variety not to the degree to dilute their personality but what they currently have pales in comparison to peers and I do not think that rod colours to show different types of weapons will not do the necrons justice.

To that end, Mar, the new guns should be included in an accessory sprue or be wielded by immortals as an alternate to the gauss blaster (new plastic kit would be great for this!)

I have a lot of faith in GW plastics since recent releases, maybe I am easy to please but their newer stuff like the Dark Eldar look amazing so I think they will give all this new necron stuff justice. Also the Grey Knights plastics proved that they can create good quality versatile kits so I reckon we won't have a problem with 'getting our hands on' these fancy new weapons of mass destruction! I can't speculate where and how we will see these new weapons but I faith!

just to quote what was said earlier, not word for word and i dont wanna look through 40 pages of posts:

we wont see multi color rods packaged with the models. this does not mean colors wont represent different weapons though.

If Necron warriors are now 12 points just because they have a 4+ save instead and have a 5+ WBB then Fire Warriors better be getting a point decrease.

ZeroSamurai wrote:If Necron warriors are now 12 points just because they have a 4+ save instead and have a 5+ WBB then Fire Warriors better be getting a point decrease.

Possibly but we are neither in a position to predict much of anything within the tau codex nor is this the place I am afraid.

I am hoping for an E-mail this monday

RutgerMan wrote:I am hoping for an E-mail this monday

Im hoping for an E-mail in arround 5 hours

necr0n wrote:

RutgerMan wrote:I am hoping for an E-mail this monday

Im hoping for an E-mail in arround 5 hours

I dont think they are that punctual, besides I wont be able to check until the afternoon ... Cant wait

I'm hoping to get married to a beautiful woman tomorrow, but instead I have an assessment. Funny how things (don't) happen, huh?

To be fair people who have thought about this incoming e-mail have based it on past occurrence and facts so I can see their perspective. You marrying a women tomorrow seems like a desire you plucked from fantasy! I just have a bad feeling the e-mail is not coming but then maybe I just do not want to get my hopes up. If we look at the grey knights incoming e-mail however many months before their release it gave next to no information so in that regard I do not see us learning anything knew.

Maybe simple confirmation will be sufficient.

i hope for an email this month, but then again i always think broadly even with evidence of past events you still never know how tomorrow will turn out.

I have said it before on this thread, and on another thread a few weeks ago: I would NOT like varied colored rods for my Necrons. At least not having to take them in order to have different effects. Imagine one unit of, say, 10 Warriors wielding green colored weapons (Gauss), then the unit next to them yellow (let's say Tesla) and then the next unit red (Particle or whatever). Not cool. Or even worse, a unit of 10, wielding 6 Gauss 2 Tesla and 2 Particle (if that is possible, of course). Even less cool.
But I admit that is just my opinion. I will still play the Necrons anyway, but I believe it will ruin the grim look of the army (making them look kind of like a circus in my opinion). But then again it may be just me.
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As nice it would be to get an e-mail, so we don't have to worry about it not happening, I feel like they would probably wait until after we get the email about the summer of flyers first.

Soulx wrote:As nice it would be to get an e-mail, so we don't have to worry about it not happening, I feel like they would probably wait until after we get the email about the summer of flyers first.

Correct me if I'm wrong (which is possible) but I think that Murderous Skies we saw on the last page of WD was only the second wave Eldar...

angelshade00 wrote:I have said it before on this thread, and on another thread a few weeks ago: I would NOT like varied colored rods for my Necrons. At least not having to take them in order to have different effects. Imagine one unit of, say, 10 Warriors wielding green colored weapons (Gauss), then the unit next to them yellow (let's say Tesla) and then the next unit red (Particle or whatever). Not cool. Or even worse, a unit of 10, wielding 6 Gauss 2 Tesla and 2 Particle (if that is possible, of course). Even less cool.
But I admit that is just my opinion. I will still play the Necrons anyway, but I believe it will ruin the grim look of the army (making them look kind of like a circus in my opinion). But then again it may be just me.
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Indeed I share this view exactly, I am a firm believer that the different coloured rods if they exist are purely cosmetic and if they are not a cosmetic choice I seriously see myself bending the rules!

I think the game has become so vehicle-centric with every new codex that every army I play against starts off on the field with just transports and vehicles... Giving Necrons a plethora of vehicles and monsters just ruins the feel of an undead horde slowly approaching and massacring you.

Mar wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:I have said it before on this thread, and on another thread a few weeks ago: I would NOT like varied colored rods for my Necrons. At least not having to take them in order to have different effects. Imagine one unit of, say, 10 Warriors wielding green colored weapons (Gauss), then the unit next to them yellow (let's say Tesla) and then the next unit red (Particle or whatever). Not cool. Or even worse, a unit of 10, wielding 6 Gauss 2 Tesla and 2 Particle (if that is possible, of course). Even less cool.
But I admit that is just my opinion. I will still play the Necrons anyway, but I believe it will ruin the grim look of the army (making them look kind of like a circus in my opinion). But then again it may be just me.
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Indeed I share this view exactly, I am a firm believer that the different coloured rods if they exist are purely cosmetic and if they are not a cosmetic choice I seriously see myself bending the rules!

Well said. I don't mind the idea of different colored rods, but I DO mind it if they are not, as you so accurately pointed, simply cosmetic. In such a case bending the rules might be the way to go... I know that at least the folks in my local store will not mind one bit...

I really can not see them being more then cosmetic if they do come that way. I enjoy the freedom of the hobby to be able to make my army, my models my whatever the colour, look and all the way I want them. I just do not see GW removing the freedom of a look to me and no rules come to mind where a unit or piece of equipment has to be a certain colour to be valid. A bad example but even aspect warriors whom have fluff stating they are (at least normally) a specific colour scheme is still viable if I decided to paint them all bright pink!

Mar wrote:I really can not see them being more then cosmetic if they do come that way. I enjoy the freedom of the hobby to be able to make my army, my models my whatever the colour, look and all the way I want them. I just do not see GW removing the freedom of a look to me and no rules come to mind where a unit or piece of equipment has to be a certain colour to be valid. A bad example but even aspect warriors whom have fluff stating they are (at least normally) a specific colour scheme is still viable if I decided to paint them all bright pink!

It's not pink, but your comment reminded me of this.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/212519-.html?m=2

King Pariah wrote:

It's not pink, but your comment reminded me of this.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/212519-.html?m=2

I laughed, then I felt bad for laughing.

King Pariah wrote:

Mar wrote:I really can not see them being more then cosmetic if they do come that way. I enjoy the freedom of the hobby to be able to make my army, my models my whatever the colour, look and all the way I want them. I just do not see GW removing the freedom of a look to me and no rules come to mind where a unit or piece of equipment has to be a certain colour to be valid. A bad example but even aspect warriors whom have fluff stating they are (at least normally) a specific colour scheme is still viable if I decided to paint them all bright pink!

It's not pink, but your comment reminded me of this.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/212519-.html?m=2

That's...cutely disturbing...

That picture has won the internetz for me it amused me greatly!

It reminds me of the Flower-Powered Necrons...

Bear in mind, I haven't finished (or played) my Necron army, but the Necrons have attracted my attention for better than 10 years of visiting my flgs.
For me, there is strength in the Necrons being without individuality. No special weapons to micro-manage, yet a depth of strategy. There is an elegance in the design of the 2nd edition Necron army... an elegance that is missing when I look at the complexity of systems of the SM, for example.

My wish and hope... that the Necrons maintain an elegance of design. Too many units and too many options destroy that IMHO.