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...And?

A book and a skull with a staff isn't an uncommon symbol. Nor is the fact that he's using a "pSYCHIC looking attack" proof of anything.

A member of the Adeptus Mechanicus can be a psyker. There's nothing stating that they can't be, it's just very very rare/unlikely that the powers would survive given the extensive bionic replacements they'd probably have.
As an aside, do notice the patterns on the hem of both robes.

Pretty identical, huh?

I'm going to call White Robey Guy neith an Inquisitor, nor a member of the Mechanicus. He lacks symbolism for eith of the two. I'm calling him a Sanctioned Psyker.

Too well-groomed/dressed for a bolt magnet.

Plus, there's no Commissar following him around.

what where the tech priest has a gear pattern and the character in white has a checker pattern at the bottom of his robs and nowhere else.

Also the fact that the character in white robs so far has displayed none of the characteristics that an average 40k player would make him think that the character is an adeptus mechanicus. The lack of gear iconography on his clothing and weapons so far has made me think he is not part of the adeptus mechanicus.

Where as the chracter in tan and red is a very obvious member of the adeptus mechanicus.

Why are you so goddamned stubborn about this? He doesn't have any Admech qualities about him aside from a robe, which is obscenely common. If there were the crenelations trimming on the cloak, sure. If he were more machine than man, sure. If he had a servo arm, sure. Hell, if he had a single Adeptus Mechanicus sign on him I'd give it to you. He does not. I think it's pretty obvious he's an Inquisition type.

Here's another picture where he's wielding a sword:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/890201/warhammer-40000-dark-millennium-online/images/warhammer-40000-dark-millennium-online-20100820100516628.html?page=mediaFull
Admech always use axes, or at the very least weapons showing their iconography. The dude might not be an inquisitor as I originally said, but he's sure as sugar not an Adeptus Mechanicus guy. Besides, many pictures show one Marine, the Admech dude, a Guardsman, and captain holy robes here.

E: Might as well continue this spergy rant for a little longer - it's important to have simple visual shorthands for just about everything in a game. When you run into a party you should be able to say "This guy's the caster, this guy's the tank, this guy's the healer" and so on. By having really diverse looks to the same class, you just create confusion for people playing. Marines will have more bling and different color schemes, but always maintain the same silhouette, for example.

Which is exactly the point.

Vigil isn't restricted to Codex units. They get to use the entirety of 40k's background. That's why we've got a Guardsman operating by himself, heavily geared, as an infiltrator.

The Wiki is kinda informative, and not informative at the same time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dark_Millennium_Online

MUST HAVE INPUT!!

I too read somewhere, but forget where, that Nids are the PVE...Which totally makes sense and logical that you can't play as a Nid since there are no "individuals" amoungst the hive.

Brother SRM wrote:Why are you so goddamned stubborn about this? He doesn't have any Admech qualities about him aside from a robe, which is obscenely common. If there were the crenelations trimming on the cloak, sure. If he were more machine than man, sure. If he had a servo arm, sure. Hell, if he had a single Adeptus Mechanicus sign on him I'd give it to you. He does not. I think it's pretty obvious he's an Inquisition type.

Novices have very little in the way of bionics. They're more man than machine. Look at the Tech-Priest Enginseer in the screenshots. He has virtually no augmentations, beyond his servo-arm and what looks like a single bionic arm. More than likely, bionics and the "mechanical upgrades" will most likely be tied in with character advancement and equipment.

Here's another picture where he's wielding a sword:
http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/890201/warhammer-40000-dark-millennium-online/images/warhammer-40000-dark-millennium-online-20100820100516628.html?page=mediaFull
Admech always use axes, or at the very least weapons showing their iconography. The dude might not be an inquisitor as I originally said, but he's sure as sugar not an Adeptus Mechanicus guy. Besides, many pictures show one Marine, the Admech dude, a Guardsman, and captain holy robes here.

Ad-Mech don't "always use axes". Enginseers do.
Electropriests, the branch of the Priesthood that supports other Adeptus Mechanicus priests in battle, carry no axes.

THQ and Vigil work closely with GW making sure they stay close to cannon of the 40k universe giving a yay or na on how far they can stretch the cannon. I'm also pretty sure that GW would have something to say about an admech character that looks nothing like a member of the Admech.

PCG: How much involvement has the Games Workshop staff had in the making of the game?

DA: Games Workshop is the master of Warhammer 40,000, they have spent decades building up, what I believe to be one of the best science fiction IPs of all time. The job of translating that IP into an MMO setting is largely left up to our team, but Games Workshop does a wonderful job of providing us all the appropriate feedback and information to ensure that what we make remains true to the universe they have created. As an avid fan of the setting, I wouldn’t want it any other way.

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/warhammer-40000-online/a-20080502174245201051 <- full article

Brother SRM wrote:
Why are you so goddamned stubborn about this? He doesn't have any Admech qualities about him aside from a robe, which is obscenely common. If there were the crenelations trimming on the cloak, sure. If he were more machine than man, sure. If he had a servo arm, sure. Hell, if he had a single Adeptus Mechanicus sign on him I'd give it to you. He does not. I think it's pretty obvious he's an Inquisition type.

Exactly, the white robed character has no iota of Ad-Mech iconography on him, nothing nada, not even a single gear.

Kanluwen wrote:

Novices have very little in the way of bionics. They're more man than machine. Look at the Tech-Priest Enginseer in the screenshots. He has virtually no augmentations, beyond his servo-arm and what looks like a single bionic arm. More than likely, bionics and the "mechanical upgrades" will most likely be tied in with character advancement and equipment.

And they would have Ad-Mech iconography on their person from the start in some form no matter how much they changed, while our white robed character has no Ad-Mech iconography at all.

fox-light713 wrote:THQ and Vigil work closely with GW making sure they stay close to cannon of the 40k universe giving a yay or na on how far they can stretch the cannon. I'm also pretty sure that GW would have something to say about an admech character that looks nothing like a member of the Admech.

Okay. You're not getting it, obviously.

Adepts of the Mechanicus?
They don't start off looking like a mechanical-man monstrosity. They start off looking just like you or I do. Depending on the branch of the Mechanicus(of which, there's multiples...including one which actually deals with genetics and creating vat-grown clones and fleshed implants for damaged individuals. They also supervise the production of most servitors). I'm giving you an alternate explanation as to what that individual is. Is it possible he's some kind of Inquisitor or Sanctioned Psyker?

Sure. But everything's pointing me towards Tech-Priest.

White robes=perfectly acceptable, given that the robe colors for Adepts of the Mechanicus...are rust-red and pure white. So that's a big 10-4 on the Tech-Priest train.
He looks as if he's got implants over his flesh--which, again, indicates to me a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus(specifically: the Electropriests. Who have implants over their skin that builds up electrical charges). That's another box ticked off under "Mechanicus".
As for the book...Electropriests go into battle chanting litanies, while building up their electrical charges to unleash upon the enemy.
Another box ticked off for Mechanicus.

Staff with a skull on it? Go look for the Skullz "Adeptus Mechanicus Magos".
Tell me what he's wielding, okay? Because it sure ain't an axe.

Don't want to look?


I rest my case.

Necrosis wrote:No matter how times you post, someone will always not read your post and say it's the Inquisition.

Oh, I read it. It's not a tech priest. Tech priests don't have purple psychic stuff. Tech priests have blue lightning like in the other shot they gave us.

We don't know definitively that tech-priests "don't have purple psychic stuff".

Kanluwen wrote:

Well for starters the Adeptus Mechanicus Magos has Ad-Mech iconography plastered all over him making him easy to identify as an Ad-Mech member.

Point out one item on the White robed character that can be clearly identifiable as Ad-Mech to make him a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Because I can see no Ad-Mech iconography on him

Kanluwen wrote:

Novices have very little in the way of bionics. They're more man than machine. Look at the Tech-Priest Enginseer in the screenshots. He has virtually no augmentations, beyond his servo-arm and what looks like a single bionic arm. More than likely, bionics and the "mechanical upgrades" will most likely be tied in with character advancement and equipment.

They don't start off looking like a mechanical-man monstrosity. They start off looking just like you or I do. Depending on the branch of the Mechanicus(of which, there's multiples...including one which actually deals with genetics and creating vat-grown clones and fleshed implants for damaged individuals. They also supervise the production of most servitors).

He looks as if he's got implants over his flesh--which, again, indicates to me a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus(specifically: the Electropriests. Who have implants over their skin that builds up electrical charges). That's another box ticked off under "Mechanicus".

And they would have Ad-Mech iconography on their person from the start in some form no matter how much they changed, while our white robed character has no Ad-Mech iconography at all nothing nada, not even a single gear. It would be like him saying 'Ok I'll join the Ad-Mech but I'm not going to weir any of their Iconography'. Its comparable to joining a Sports team and not weir anything with that teams logo or colors on it.

these IG physkers also have implants over their flesh, and they also have staffs

And there's no implants on that character model that suggest he's a Psyker--because Psykers only have implants on their scalps. They're designed to amplify the Psyker's power, while also making sure that they don't fry their brains in the process.

They're not something you'll see skipped out on a Psyker character.

As for the lack of Mechanicus iconography...
Take a good, hard look at the easily recognizable Techpriest.

He has exactly one cogged skull on him. That's it. That's not exactly being inundated with symbols.

Oh, and by the way?
Notice the pattern on the shoulderpads for that white robed character. It forms a helix.
Y'know...a genetic symbol.

fox-light713 wrote:[picture of guy in white robes]

Yeah, that is definitely not admech.


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Kanluwen wrote:And there's no implants on that character model that suggest he's a Psyker--because Psykers only have implants on their scalps. They're designed to amplify the Psyker's power, while also making sure that they don't fry their brains in the process.

They're not something you'll see skipped out on a Psyker character.

As for the lack of Mechanicus iconography...
Take a good, hard look at the easily recognizable Techpriest.

He has exactly one cogged skull on him. That's it. That's not exactly being inundated with symbols.

Oh, and by the way?
Notice the pattern on the shoulderpads for that white robed character. It forms a helix.
Y'know...a genetic symbol.

lol, what? There is no helix anywhere. He has no admech symbols. He has inquisition style shoulderpads. He uses purple psychic powers. Probably a psyker inquisitor.

MAYBE HES SOME SORT OF HIGH RANKING PRIEST?

But he is missing his beard

He has no Inquisition markings, at all, by your same reasoning.

Bulky shoulderpads are not "Inquisition style shoulderpads". For that matter, the more militant Inquisitors(which is what you'd see here) don't wear robes over their armor. They'll wear cloaks, sure. But not full on robes like that. We also don't know that the purple is "psychic powers". It could be damned near anything.

But if Inquisitors, either way, were to be a playable class...it would have been announced. Inquisitors would be a -huge- draw for players.

ph34r wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:And there's no implants on that character model that suggest he's a Psyker--because Psykers only have implants on their scalps. They're designed to amplify the Psyker's power, while also making sure that they don't fry their brains in the process.

They're not something you'll see skipped out on a Psyker character.

As for the lack of Mechanicus iconography...
Take a good, hard look at the easily recognizable Techpriest.

He has exactly one cogged skull on him. That's it. That's not exactly being inundated with symbols.

Oh, and by the way?
Notice the pattern on the shoulderpads for that white robed character. It forms a helix.
Y'know...a genetic symbol.

lol, what? There is no helix anywhere. He has no admech symbols. He has inquisition style shoulderpads.

There's plenty of Olive Branch Skulls and regular sculls, but no cogged skulls, and that looks nothing like a helix on his shoulders.

Why doesn't someone just send an email asking what he is?

But then this glorious argument will end!

Personally I dont think he is ][ or Ad-Mech due to lack of Iconography, but I've got no clue as to what he actually would be...looks like some kind of priest though, does the Ecclesiarchy field any military types that fit the bill?

He also doesnt appear to be wearing much in the way of armor under those robes

del'Vhar wrote:But then this glorious argument will end!

Personally I dont think he is ][ or Ad-Mech due to lack of Iconography, but I've got no clue as to what he actually would be...looks like some kind of priest though, does the Ecclesiarchy field any military types that fit the bill?

He also doesnt appear to be wearing much in the way of armor under those robes

He reminds me somewhat of an Imperial Confessor or perhaps some sort of Missionary that accompanied the Imperial Expedition.

Kanluwen wrote:He has no Inquisition markings, at all, by your same reasoning.

Bulky shoulderpads are not "Inquisition style shoulderpads". For that matter, the more militant Inquisitors(which is what you'd see here) don't wear robes over their armor. They'll wear cloaks, sure. But not full on robes like that. We also don't know that the purple is "psychic powers". It could be damned near anything.

But if Inquisitors, either way, were to be a playable class...it would have been announced. Inquisitors would be a -huge- draw for players.

Only mention I've seen of Inquisitors so far is from this interview. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-17-thq-on-everything-interview?page=2

What does being an Inquisitor mean? That's down the road somewhere. I always say too much in these things, but I get excited.

Kanluwen wrote:
But if Inquisitors, either way, were to be a playable class...it would have been announced. Inquisitors would be a -huge- draw for players.

IT'S 3 YEARS AWAY!
They have plenty of time to get everything straight.

Lord of battles wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
But if Inquisitors, either way, were to be a playable class...it would have been announced. Inquisitors would be a -huge- draw for players.

IT'S 3 YEARS AWAY!
They have plenty of time to get everything straight.

Well aware of how far away it is.

But let's face it: if they were to say, right now "Inquisitors are a playable class"...then there would be a lot more people interested.

Honestly, if I were a betting man?
The Inquisition will be a faction you'll be able to gain renown with, and requisition better and better equipment from them via that . Then we'll see equivalents of that for each race(Orks get a renowned conglomeration of Mekboyz, Eldar get artifact weapons, etc etc).

lol@kanluwen.

He was using psychic powers, therefor either he's an Inquisitor or a Sanctioned Psyker, or he isn't a part of the Imperium of Man faction. Yes? Yes.

He isn't a priest, as a priests "powers" (insofar as one can call them that) would be shown using white, transparent, or gold-- at least, not an Imperial priest. A priest of Chaos could very well use such things, but he has no symbols of chaos on him.

He isn't Mechanicus, that much is obvious. NO mechadendrite, he uses a sword, he uses psychic powers, he has no mechanicum symbols, he has nothing to indicate his loyalty to the organization.

He isn't a Guardsman, obviously, given the armor that looks like piecemeal carapace and robes, and the colors are off for most Guard regiments. Is he a Space Marine out of power armor? I doubt it, he's using powers and there's no bolter weapons.

So an Imperial Psyker (yes, they use swords-- via force weapons) or an Imperial Inquisitor are the two most likely classes. Not all psykers look disheveled, dirty, and so on.

Leonus wrote:Evreyone seems to be using WoW as an example of bad graphics. I'd just like to note that they are actually improving the graphics all the time. The golden part of WoW is that it can change the requirements DRASTICALLY between top tier and bottom tier graphics settings.

Yeah, I prefer to use WoW as an example of bad gameplay instead.

hmmmmm. I have an idea. How bout we wait until actual information is released about it instead of devolving this thread to useless bickering about "OMG DAT GUY IN WHIT ROBEZ TOTALLY NOT ADMECK."
"NUH UH, HE TOTALLY ARE !!!!"

and having it get locked?

Melissia wrote:So an Imperial Psyker (yes, they use swords-- via force weapons) or an Imperial Inquisitor are the two most likely classes. Not all psykers look disheveled, dirty, and so on.

Leonus wrote:Evreyone seems to be using WoW as an example of bad graphics. I'd just like to note that they are actually improving the graphics all the time. The golden part of WoW is that it can change the requirements DRASTICALLY between top tier and bottom tier graphics settings.

Yeah, I prefer to use WoW as an example of bad gameplay instead.

Oh no! Melissia is being reasonable! Quick, someone bring up Sisters of Battle/Witchhunters!

Also, I like WoW graphics. The gameplay is pretty damn good too. There's a reason it has 11 million players: it's fun.

Lord of battles wrote:IT'S 3 YEARS AWAY!
They have plenty of time to get everything straight.

But that's what is fun about it, we get to speculate!

That what me and Kanluwen have been doing Speculating! he may be Ad-Mech, he may be an Inquisitor, or a plan old Physker who knows!

I just hope that SoB will be a playable class for the Impirium of Man. If not, I'll be a SM scout.

Dare I say.....

50 DKP minus!

ph34r wrote:Also, I like WoW graphics. The gameplay is pretty damn good too. There's a reason it has 11 million players: it's fun.

Hear hear. There's a lot of content and it's good content. Players of all types are catered to and they've got a wealth of options for both PvP and PvE.

Now then, are there any good Dark Millenium fansites that track these interviews and other information blurbs?

Melissia wrote:lol@kanluwen.

He isn't Mechanicus, that much is obvious. NO mechadendrite, he uses a sword, he uses psychic powers, he has no mechanicum symbols, he has nothing to indicate his loyalty to the organization.

Sorry, do you know exactly what Magos Genetors look like?

Because they do not have mechadendrites, and there's nothing to suggest those were psychic powers, etc etc. It's all idle speculation, but given that they showed him right as the voiceover states "Tech-Priests"...I'd say it's a good bet he's a Tech-Priest.

Kanluwen wrote:but given that they showed him right as the voiceover states "Tech-Priests"...I'd say it's a good bet he's a Tech-Priest.

Wrong actually. When they show this guy the voice bit is already over. And then right after that (but before saying and showing Space Marines) they show the commando-ish Guard. The obvious conclusion would be that after showing the Techpriest they decided to sneak in some previews for the other non-SM classes. Unless you're trying to tell us that the Guard dude is also a Techpriest