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**Smarteye**

I've allways thought the Maiden was good. Check out some of the Lahmian Vampires as well. The one holding the snake is nice.

**Cadichan Support**

JohnHwangDD wrote:

That's not a "M-16". It's an Autogun / Stubber slug-thrower. In Necromunda, they use such things, as Las-weapons are rarer and more expensive.

Lasguns?!?!?!?! Rare!?!!?!
If flashlights are rare i wonder what the stats of those are?

**Tri**

Cadichan Support wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:

That's not a "M-16". It's an Autogun / Stubber slug-thrower. In Necromunda, they use such things, as Las-weapons are rarer and more expensive.

Lasguns?!?!?!?! Rare!?!!?!
If flashlights are rare i wonder what the stats of those are?

I play Dark Heresy, and Las-weapons have a lot going for them. You can recharge their packs easily any where; even heating them in a fire works though it does degrade the packs. They also have good range and accuracy, and are easy to repair.

**Ifalna**

These things were just.. urgh. I had so many. I dug out my old chaos army and showed them to my friends recently, there were hysterics. Remember the mutation sprue with the giant arms that made no sense and left you with models you could not possibly line up? Or even just trying to work out the skeletal structure needed to pull those poses in that armor while having necks coming out of their mid chest. Fantastic.

**Phototoxin**

They were one of the first multi-part kits though..

**Ifalna**

Really doesn't change how hideous they are or how long it took for them to get an update that made them look remotely humanoid :(

**Grey Templar**

dang, they must have pulled the ork pose concept out of those guys.

**Da Boss**

I remember thinking they were cool when they came out, but looking at them now I can only conclude I was insane at the time.

**Grey Templar**

Cadichan Support wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:

That's not a "M-16". It's an Autogun / Stubber slug-thrower. In Necromunda, they use such things, as Las-weapons are rarer and more expensive.

Lasguns?!?!?!?! Rare!?!!?!
If flashlights are rare i wonder what the stats of those are?

it's ok.

in Necromunda Bolters are blast weapons

**insaniak**

Cadichan Support wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:That's not a "M-16". It's an Autogun / Stubber slug-thrower. In Necromunda, they use such things, as Las-weapons are rarer and more expensive.

Lasguns?!?!?!?! Rare!?!!?!
If flashlights are rare i wonder what the stats of those are?

It's a comparative thing. Lasguns aren't that rare, but they are more difficult and expensive to produce, which makes solid-ammo auto-weapons a little more common in the Underhive.

in Necromunda Bolters are blast weapons

Is that a recent change? Because they aren't in my rulebook.

**Howard A Treesong**

Ifalna wrote:http://www.bluemoonminiatures.com/ChaosWarriorsRegiment1.jpg

These things were just.. urgh. I had so many.

Why did you need a lot? The points costs at 5th edition when these were released were colossal, you could make a 2000 point army with a couple of units some cavalry and a lord.

I got a few out recently and painted them up.

And the knights...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/howardtreesong/DSCF1825.jpg

I quite liked them myself. Brings back memories, these were £10 for a box or 12 I think. It was start of their multipart plastic regiments that have continued to today. They are a bugger to rank up though, but the modern ones look a bit too organised and regular.

**Ifalna**

I had a few units with different marks, so for wysiwyg I had more than one unit with different schemes.

**VikingScott**

Cadichan Support wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:

That's not a "M-16". It's an Autogun / Stubber slug-thrower. In Necromunda, they use such things, as Las-weapons are rarer and more expensive.

Lasguns?!?!?!?! Rare!?!!?!
If flashlights are rare i wonder what the stats of those are?

Gameplay difference is a difference in the ammo roll. Lasguns are more reliable and less prone to jamming in the middle of a fight than an autogun.

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Grey Templar wrote:
in Necromunda Bolters are blast weapons

Not in my rulebook either.

**Henners91**

@Ifalna

Nice Dwar-

Oh, wait...

Dear Lord.

**burad**

The slaves' faces look like 60-year-olds who have had too much plastic surgery.
Too big implants, and too much nip & tuck too.
Like old porn stars desperately trying to look young.

**Aretak**

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**blood reaper**

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440231a&prodId=prod900122a

**sebster**

VikingScott wrote:Gameplay difference is a difference in the ammo roll. Lasguns are more reliable and less prone to jamming in the middle of a fight than an autogun.

The lasgun has a -1 save modifier as well.

in Necromunda Bolters are blast weapons

Not in my rulebook either.

He's likely thinking of shotguns firing shot, which used the 1/2" template in the original rules. Something that never affected play once in the decade or so of me playing the game.

**Balance**

Bolt Weapons are, generally, hard to get in Necromunda, as I remember. Very expensive and running out of ammo on your shiny new bolter was a definite risk. I think I tended to stick with Lasguns and went with numbers over a few guys with better weapons.

**EmilCrane**

Anyone else think the new storm raven is butt ugly? Its like the Valkyrie and the Thunderhawk had a slowed child.

**AlexHolker**

EmilCrane wrote:Anyone else think the new storm raven is butt ugly? Its like the Valkyrie and the Thunderhawk had a slowed child.

Judging by the five threads across two forums I've seen, I don't think you're alone.

**Grey Templar**

EmilCrane wrote:Anyone else think the new storm raven is butt ugly? Its like the Valkyrie and the Thunderhawk had a slowed child.

it's just "Special" and mommy Valk and Daddy Thunderhawk love it very much.

**veritechc**

Grey Templar wrote:
EmilCrane wrote:Anyone else think the new storm raven is butt ugly? Its like the Valkyrie and the Thunderhawk had a slowed child.

it's just "Special" and mommy Valk and Daddy Thunderhawk love it very much.

Am I missing something. Did they put out a picture of the Stormraven?

**VikingScott**

Not officialy. Someone managed to get the picture as it was accidently on gw's site.

**terribletrygon**

VikingScott wrote:Not officialy. Everyone managed to get the picture as it was "accidently" on gw's site.

Fixed that for you.

**VikingScott**

That's fair too. But usally they don't reveal anything until it's released.

**Grey Templar**

here is the photo for those who are interested

**Henners91**

It's just too tall and unbalanced, the front is so tall!

**aka_mythos**

After the beautiful Dark Eldar models I almost joined the cult of "GW can do no wrong," at least model-wise... then I saw the Stormraven and my faith was destroyed.

The simplest things would have been to lower the engines and wings. Replace the turret with a razorbacks' and lose the intake tower.

**Grey Templar**

i like that turret, it's really streamlined.

a Razorback turret would stick out like a sore thumb and make it look even more clunky.