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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 06:38:28
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I like it
It shows the transition from khornate Champion to Nurgle infested plaguespreading infestobot in a remarkable fashion. Very nice work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 08:56:29
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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The marine looks a bit too artificially half and half. I think there aught to be little green vines or tendril lines spreading from the green to the red and some areas on the green side where the infestation is less thick and the red can still be seen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 09:00:16
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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I second crimsonmicc's idea of an irregular shape between the two "parts"...
Also, depending on whether he's willing to follow Ol'Father Nurgle, you could try and make do as if he tried to remove / cut / damage the Khornate icon on his shoulder pad.
But it's a nice idea!!
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
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"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 11:55:55
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Furious Raptor
Central illinois, about an hour from the capital
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Lol I thought Tzeentch was the god of change and deception?
I like the concept behind that piece. Too bad we don't have double marks any more. Would work great in that aspect. However, with it having both it can be changed either way couldn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 14:06:05
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Definitely like the concept there, as others have said, think it needs to be a bit more irregular, but other than that looks good so far. I'm assuming the guys he brought with him from the 'old company' will get a similar treatment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 15:24:14
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Looking great! I recently got some 2nd/3rd editon plague marines in a trade, and I'm absolutely enamored with them! So much character and charm, it's unbelievable.
I also got five OOP chaos Terminators.....They're so much smaller than recent terminators, it's not even funny
My aspiring champion was both wider and taller than the tallest terminator in the group
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 19:53:27
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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@ everyone- thanks for the feedback. I agree that changes need to be made. First thing I am going to do is change the backstory for him and make his existence in my current army much more plausible. In the past I frequently ran a Khorne / Nurgle force. Blood for the Blood God ran freely, and the final gift of Father Nurgle was bestowed upon all they faced. The two forces fought side by side for (literally) years.
My idea needs to be fleshed out a bit, but essentially it involves a bit of humor. When the Death Guard and World Eater forces split after their last battle as allies, this particular Champion simply loaded his squad into the wrong Rhino and has yet to notice. Nurgle's Rot has taken away their Furious Charge and slowed down their attacks a little but they are tougher for it. And yes, I'm going to add another model to make it a squad of 8.
The stat lines will play out exactly the same, I'm not making any special rules just because I decided to do an odd bit of converting / painting.
As far as the modeling goes, I'll leave the Khornate icons mostly intact. As far as the painting and converting goes... oh wait you know what? *flash of brilliance* This is going to be squad of Chosen. Gear them up for Close Combat. Well... that changes things. Now I'm going to have to rework them quite a bit. But it will be so absolutely worth it. Great. Another project. I really need to stop doing this and finish some things up. But bottom line is yeah, the blend will be more natural.
@ Samus_aran115- Welcome back! That's very cool that you scored those 2nd / 3rd ed Plague Marines. The 2nd ed are some of my favorite models. I'm running low on them though, might be time for me to start looking to trade. eBay has been pretty dry for RT / 2nd ed Plague Marines lately (or I'm looking in the wrong place).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 22:42:14
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:this particular Champion simply loaded his squad into the wrong Rhino and has yet to notice.
That was worth the whole read
I like it!!!
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/23 22:48:49
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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It's all that 'Blood for the Blood God' business see. The poor dears get exhausted with all that shouting and screaming whilst decapitating hundreds of victims. At the end of the fight they can barely stand, let alone make correct judgements on which transport was theirs.
A bit like a bunch of school kids after a day out getting on the wrong coach.
But bloodier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/24 00:24:47
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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monkeytroll wrote:
A bit like a bunch of school kids after a day out getting on the wrong coach.
But bloodier.
If I had some space left, I'd sig that...
[edit : well, with a bit of an arrangement, I can do that, actually.]
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My WiP -affiliated Traitors - War on Tranch : Renegades
The World Tree's offsprings - Various WIPs : Skavens, Tzeentch & Nurgle CSMs, Marine Swap
My first tutorial - Object Source Lighting
What will I achieve in 7 months? : Radio Omid is online
"Squat Hulk- in space no one knows you no longer exist." - Gitzbitah
"Now you're just being silly, everyone knows red paint tastes fasta." - monkeytroll
"Both servers are on different continents so space meteors or thermonuclear war will not be enough take out dakka hopefully." - legoburner
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/24 16:32:26
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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The concept behind the champion is very cool and the back story is the besgt part about him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 02:28:14
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Two face needs to be on the receiving end of a dark lance haha the guy is terrifying. Perfect for nurgle badassery!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 03:16:31
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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this is a great thread, love seeing the old models!
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"Reality is, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"
-Philip K. Dick
Constant Lurker, Slowly getting back into modelling! Someday a P&M Blog link will lurk here! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 04:38:55
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
2nd ed Heavy Bolter. Nothing special about it, just giving it a moment in the Dakka spotlight.
This is one of my favourite old Havoc models. He was a standout from a lot of the others. He had a different backpack from the other Havocs, as well as a bandoleer around his chest and another around the backpack. Not to mention the chain support which really reminds us of the "heavy" in Heavy Bolter. I still have one of these in the blister. I guess I should get it out and paint it up.
Thanks for sharing these old models. I'm really enjoying the thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 07:33:33
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Wow. Don't check the thread for a couple of days and see what happens? Ha.
Thanks one and all for the replies. It's a very gratifying feeling to know that people are enjoying this project.
That said, not much of an update for all the time off I've had. Thursday night was fun, had a 4-way game of Orks and Death Guard vs. IG and Space Wolves. I drank many beers and was informed the next day that we had won. Excellent. My contribution to the game apparently consisted in standing in one place and shooting a lot. I'm a bit fuzzy on details, or much else. For example, I have no memory of this but have been advised that I insisted on doing it:
I've seen worse but eh... some of it is a bit bland. I'll fix it.
In other news, I'm starting to put together that lost squad of Berzerkers as Chaos Chosen and kitting them close combat. I have allowed myself a melta gun though. 4 Power Fists, no Plasma. I'm using models I scored in an eBay auction from many months ago. These were slotted for trade / whatever, they were not going to make it into my World Eaters because I do not like paint job on them and I already have enough Berzerkers to fill that army out pretty well. Now they get to see the battlefield even before the World Eaters do. Ha.
Quick shot of the mess I've made working this project:
I'll get back into the swing of all this soon. The holidays have distracted me, I have other things I have to deal with, etc. But I'll be back with some actual progress soon. It would be nice if I actually finished one of these projects. I need that "I'm getting things done" feeling again because right now it feels like "numerous candidates for the Shelf of Shame". The PIP heads will change a lot of things for sure. Nothing like a completely new project to help distract me!
Again, thanks for looking and thanks for posting! More coming soon!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/26 13:51:21
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Furious Raptor
Central illinois, about an hour from the capital
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Lol Epic drunk battle!
Hopefully my planned battle stays that way; planned. As long as my friend doesn't change his mind like he nearly always does when he visits from college I will get my battle in against him and stomp his SM. The only things i have to worry about that I don't take out too quick/well are his Ironclad dread, termie squads and his new and improved chapter master. One of the best games I had with him was months ago when I nearly tabled his sorry butt in turn three. Only three models left after heavy fire, then bam....Iron clad AND his termies drop in. Owned me by turn five since I have no termies and he destroyed my defiler in CC with the blasted Ironclad and the only other thing that could have taken it that wasn't busy or in in shooting range had been killed by a round of fire that turn from the remaining three marines he had.
Okay back on topic. The Landraider looks nice, even if you added to it while intoxicated, Can't wait to see it 'fixed'.
Oh and I gotta ask...still no PIP heads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 00:21:39
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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No PIP heads yet. If they are not here on Tuesday I'll be sending an email.
Quick update tonight. Had some time this afternoon so I got some work done. The most work was on the Chosen squad. The give a new meaning to "lost and the damned". Ha. I put a decent amount of work into them, but not over the top. More of the story with them is that as they survive each battle they sometimes need armor repaired or replaced, and since their regular armorer is unavailable they make due with what they can scrounge. Some are slowing mutating or showing Nurgle's Rot. Others are unchanged for the most part. They all still have the common root, but they are at the same time different from one another.
Today was a GS day as I was working on the Land Raider at the same time. This is my first attempt at an actual sculpt in a long time. The end result is representative of the idea I had but is not exactly what I was looking for. Practice is in order. Also, I need to get a sculpting tool again. Everything here was done with a VC Zombie scythe and a Chaos sword.
You'll notice that the models already have a lot of paint. They are all recycles. The bits (save but a few gray plastic) are from models that have been taken apart, fell apart, or were in parts when I got them. This is another good example of my making due w/ what I have. Of course it helps that the bitz bin I have is huge.
I think I've found an idea here that isn't going to be found in most Chaos armies, and it does seem at least marginally plausible that something like this could happen. I'm pretty happy with the idea and pretty happy with the results so far. All this from a recycled model that had a Skull Champion helmet I couldn't pop off. Ha.
The Land Raider is looking better. I fixed most of what I messed up and also added some new GS. I'm going in steps because I don't like having to fix fingerprints, and I'm also waiting for some bits to come in (spines and other pointy things) before I really step it up. But I'm genuinely happy with where this is going:
And I changed the front ramp. I kept looking at it and kept not liking it. I was trying to decide what I wanted to put on the top part of the hatch, how to get it to match up correctly, blah blah blah... then without really thinking it through grabbed my saw and took the top hatch off. The bottom hatch closed very nicely after I trimmed off the brackets from inside the track housing.
There's a lot of work to be done yet, but I'm still moving forward and making things happen. Once the holidays are over and things get back to normal I'm hoping that I can get back on a schedule when I have things getting done instead of just being worked on. I'm not sure if I'm going to work on anything else tonight.
That's it for this one. Thanks for reading!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 00:41:22
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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That landraider is fantastic I really like the green stuff also the zerkers turned to nurgal is a fun idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 00:58:31
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Furious Raptor
Central illinois, about an hour from the capital
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I personally like your sculpt on the heads. Not to mention I like the idea of the story behind it, recycling and repairing armour.
The LR does look better still wanting to see it finished and its strange seeing one without the top hatch><
I wonder what is taking the PIP heads so long to arrive?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 01:50:19
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Skalk your Landraider is looking great can't wait to see it completed. The GS looking sick like all nurgle should and thank you for doing the throw back with the RT and early figures they all looking good!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/27 06:49:31
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Awesome job brother!! You are truly blessed by Nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 10:46:17
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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How do!
Hope you had a good xmas matey, looks like that Land Raider got a whole lot closer to Ol' Father Nurgle over the last few days.
Looking at that shot from the front ... maybe this is a tad overambitious but it would be quite something if it looked like a big open maw, disgorging Plague Marines or eating up those who stand before it
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"A heathen, conceivably. But not, I hope, an unenlightened one."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 11:23:42
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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^Likes that Idea^... Tentacles from the top of the hatch and some slavering teeth on the bottom would be awsome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 21:13:40
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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And goo inside, horrible goo. So it actually looks like it vomits Death Guard when it opens.....
Get some Carcass on the go for inspiration
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"A heathen, conceivably. But not, I hope, an unenlightened one."
Eeeeh, wargaming weren't like this back in my day! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/28 22:02:16
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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I would love to see one of them nurgle superheavies, if you GS as much as you did on the landraider, the version in the apoc books would look tame compared to that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 01:04:23
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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@ everyone- wow, thanks for the compliments! There's a lot more coming on the Land Raider. It's without a doubt going to be the new centerpiece of my army once it is done. I've been doing a lot of research w/ what other people have done and have been careful to not exactly replicate what has already been done. The "wart" looking things on top of the Heavy Bolter is an example of that. I wanted to add some dimension and that seems to be decent. I won't overuse it but with the way those came out I'll be revisiting that idea here and there.
As for the front door, there's absolutely no way that it's going to remain stock when everything else around it is looking do awesome. There's some serious GS in the near future. And this time I'm actually drawing it out on paper before I just start slapping things together. I was looking at it the other day and remembered a Space Hulk diorama I saw in WD a long time ago. It was Death Wing vs Chaos. I can't find the issue but I have a good idea of what I want this to look like and I'm going to base my next project on the Land Raider from this.
But on to the big news! *drumroll*....... The wait is over, the patience rewarded... the PIP heads are here! Yaaayyyy!!!
Yes!
Man I ripped into those things like a little kid with a birthday present. Finally after a month of anticipation, of planning out new squads, of wondering when they would actually get here... they are here!
With *great* reluctance I built a fire, fed the cats, took out the trash, stripped the linen for wash, and pretended to visit with my wife for a few minutes before finally stealing away to check out my long-awaited PIP gas mask heads! I grabbed one of the coolest looking ones, grabbed a Plague Marine body, and set the head on the armor.
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Uhm...
Wait a minute...
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Uh oh
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NNNnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are too small!!!
Humor aside, I'm very disappointed. Not w/ PIP at all, it's a quality product that I can use for Necromunda and Traitor IG conversions. I'm just crushed that I've been looking so forward to this and now it's not going to work at all. I know the pics don't truly show it but trust me, the scale is seriously different. There's no way I am even going to consider using them w/ my Plague Marines. It would look completely ridiculous.
So there you have it. Don't buy this range of PIP heads if you're doing Chaos Space Marine conversions. The look awesome on IG though:
*sigh*
Ok, so now that I have been legged I'm not sure what to do next. I suppose I can finish my Terminators and Chosen squads, and work more on my Land Raider. I did work on the Terminators a bit more today during lunch and I have some progress on the Chosen, but I'll tell you that I am not feeling the love for any of those projects the way I was looking forward to those heads coming in. I would have had a squad done tonight because the bodies are done, I just need the heads. I will likely go back and just put regular heads on them and maybe GS a couple for that "gas mask" look.
But not being one to wallow in self-pity for too very long I'm off to do something productive. I think I'll finish the Terminator Heavy Flamer.
Thanks for reading, I'll be back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 01:36:08
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Furious Raptor
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Wow finally here! How long did it take?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 01:50:17
Subject: Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Perhaps you could "beef up" the PIP heads with some GS and guitar strings.
They look really cool...shame they turned out to small.
Enjoying your work,definitely looking forward to more.
EDIT...Something along these lines..sorry for the crap renditions...just an overall concept.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 03:32:19
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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@ zadelistol- Almost 5 weeks.
@ FITZZ- That was a good idea and I tried it. I'm nto going to post a pic of the results. Suffice to say that it did not turn out as well as I would have hoped.
But again, not a total loss. Here's the start of a Cult-
The heads look much more in scale on those models. Here's a comparison of a Cultist next to a Plague Marine:
Again, the pics hardly show the true disparity in scale.
And quoting myself from a previous thread: "On the Gas Mask front, I'm going to go with the PIP and see how that goes. If it doesn't turn out as awesome in real life as I hope I'll be out a few dollars and have an awesome head set for Traitor Guard (which is how they were being used when I first saw them). I'll order them sometime this week likely. "
So really, I have no business being surprised. Wishful thinking I suppose since they were on Catachan models and they are huge compared to regular Guard models. But it is a small matter. I'll set some regular heads on the Plague Marines I had on deck and run through them relatively quick. That will get me back on track with actually finishing something to tabbletop standard instead of having a dozen open projects.
Right now I just need to finish a project. Need that "yay I got something done" feeling again to get me back on the fast track. Been bogging down a lot lately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/29 15:38:51
Subject: Re:Death Guard Plague Marines- old meets new
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
Sorry to hear that they didn't fit dude. Have you tried every design? It looks like some of the more bulkier could fit.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/12/29 15:42:51
monkeytroll wrote:
In the grim darkness of the future there is only boar.
Waagh Nazdreg!
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