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Anung Un Rama wrote:Off to an interesting start with the paint job, can't wait to see the finished product.

How do the dwarfs fit in the fluff and will they be blue as well?

Yea that's the plan. Or at the very least maybe normal flesh tone and blue warpaint, i still need to sit down and write up some lore for these guys. It's all just a mess of ideas in my head right now.

The more i see it the more i hate how blue he is actually. I love that it's pretty striking but it's not scary, just loud. I'll test things out when i can sit down and paint again.

Well, you're obviously not done yet with the skin tone, but I can see how blue skin can be tough. I don't use blue a lot, so I wouldn't even know how to begin.

I gues I'd go for the skin tone from the the Thor movie, though I don't know how I could pull it off.

I just need to make it lighter, keeping the darkest part reserved for the shady bits. Ideally he'll be more of a pale blue overall rather than the current OMGWTFBLUE!!.

Amazing work here, I am glad to see the start of your first painting and am excited to see you do the tartan.

Dude these are amazing your skill with green stuff is unbelievable.

More updates and more pics!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, less blue.

No, it's a perfect start. I would suggest looking at glaciers for some inspiration with the big guys skin.
Something like this:


And, with the same in mind, but closer to the ground, for the "dwarfs", something with a bit more gray in it:


Just my taste for snow giants with icy skin, but I think gray, or an earthier tone would be good for the base of the dwarfs. It supports the fluff of the dwarfs, as coming from under the ground, and the fluff of the gnoblar as being whats left in the wake of the glacier and what's around the giant's feet.

They are looking great. I like how that shield is coming out.

The shield looks brilliant and I love the Big Hammer for nocking a few heads together.

The blue skin is definitely striking and if you stick with it please no white hair or you will be massacred with smurf and smurfette jokes forever.

I agree with the good green, whitish skin, using blues or shadow grey in the recesses a bit like the first pic..... make the eyes bright ble a la the skin now, with a white or silver pupil/iris whatever its called. and use a grey/white for the hair.

The earthy colours would really stand out on the clothes then.

Being from the far north, would you think it would be like here? 6 months daylight, 6 months perpetual darkness? The darknes or cave dwelling would lend itself to a white almost glowy/translucent skin (white with tiny blue veins across the skin or something)




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Are they GW dwarves?

More work done:



Sucks because all my paint was ruined (old GW caps) so I'm having to piece together a new set and often i don't realize I'm in need of a color until i reach for it. So it's been slow going but I'm having a lot of fun. Hopefully i can get my command (the 3 done so far) finished and painted sometime next week so i can get a feel for the colors, etc.

So for this guy, you can see my attempt at the tartan, I think the pattern itself may be too small. Having pants like this guy will not be the norm however so ill have more than just a bandolier to try it on. I think the orange will come through more with a larger pattern on the kilts. I keep trying to lighten his hair too, it;s too yellow and not enough blonde so i may start over. The fur on the boots and cuffs i base coated shadow grey but I'm thinking i need just straight dark grey or even black and going to a light grey/white.

FearPeteySodes wrote:More work done:



Sucks because all my paint was ruined (old GW caps) so I'm having to piece together a new set and often i don't realize I'm in need of a color until i reach for it. So it's been slow going but I'm having a lot of fun. Hopefully i can get my command (the 3 done so far) finished and painted sometime next week so i can get a feel for the colors, etc.

So for this guy, you can see my attempt at the tartan, I think the pattern itself may be too small. Having pants like this guy will not be the norm however so ill have more than just a bandolier to try it on. I think the orange will come through more with a larger pattern on the kilts. I keep trying to lighten his hair too, it;s too yellow and not enough blonde so i may start over. The fur on the boots and cuffs i base coated shadow grey but I'm thinking i need just straight dark grey or even black and going to a light grey/white.

Yeah, I would like to see the tartan on a bigger area, but it looks like a good start from what i can see. You also have the benefit of large models, painting tartan on human sized models can be pretty tricky. The bandolier seems kind of stiff for being fabric, and I think it might be tough to get the pattern perfectly aligned down it's length like that.

I love the skin highlights that you added though, and you didn't even mention them in your post. For shame!

I'm loving this project! Keep the updates coming!

Cheers,
Rawson

The Blue looks great. Don't worry, he looks much more hardcore than a smurf

Loving the great blending, really nice work there.

even though id rather them be skin color seeing as they are frost giants i would work it to more of a greyish white look for skin the rest looks nice but im thinking that the hair might be too light.. hmmm not sure though

I'm loving the skin colour personally, different, brilliantly effective, tells the story... perfect.

I remember seeing this show a while back, I think it was Bear Grills or something, where they were climbing through icebergs and they pointed out that some are 'marbled' due to water feezing VERY quickly at different temperatures, which freezes the water in different colours. Thought that could be a real cool addition to the paint scheme, if you don't mind my 1- pence worth? Here's a picture to show the effect, ignore the fact that it's mostly white though:

Thanks for the feedback guys!

I love the idea of the grayish dwarves! I'll totally experiment with that. I experimented on the guy above with purple ink as well in one section and thought it looked kinda neat, so i may use some subtle variations in hues in the giants too.

The dwarves i got are actually from the Avatars of War line. I'm really excited because I'm such a huge fan of their stuff but never thought to get them because i like converting my characters too much. With the GW relaunch its actually pretty darn close to the same price too.

@Kitch - That's a really interesting effect! I don't know how i would implement though as i feel i would be explaining why one of them has a giant line in him every game. But the general idea kinda plays into what i said above about the skin tones.

Also, my Winter Basing Kit came from Skullcrafts and i must say it looks pretty sweet. I've always halfassed my bases though so this will be interesting to see if i can make it look good.

So tonight i experiment!

This is absolutely the most impressive P&M blog on dakka. The level of modification, work ethic, and quality of your figures is absolutely awe inspirint. Your greenstuff kung fu is strong, dragon warrior.

Exalted, subscribed, and lurked, permanently.

Absolutely top shelf work PeteySodes.

Wow, Cottonjaw I'm very flattered! I'll do my best to keep it interesting for you!

FearPeteySodes wrote:@Kitch - That's a really interesting effect! I don't know how i would implement though as i feel i would be explaining why one of them has a giant line in him every game. But the general idea kinda plays into what i said above about the skin tones.

Hey, I never said it'd be easy, lol

Still, knew it'd be a bit of a pie in the sky idea anyway lol

FearPeteySodes wrote:

I don't know if it's been said yet, I didn't read every post, I'm lazy, but I am getting a Dennis Rodman vibe off this guy! (Maybe some crazy tattoos and color streaks in his hair? )

Anyway, great GS stuff man! I can't wait to see more!

So glad to stumble on to this blog. Great stuff, and very inspiring!

Random update:

I'm bored at work with limited options and no glue (idiot) soooo i thought i would for a change of pace post what i have for my next model:



It's time to break up the Ogres, so i figured i should do a Character now that i have some if the size/techniques hammered out. Hence, the Rune Shaman (Butcher)! Now I cant draw for crap really but I think it gets my ideas planned out and organized. I didn't plan on sharing sketches but like i said, I'm bored.

I also like seeing my ideas from brain->paper->model->finished product. It's either really satisfying or a document of how impulsive i am...

He is looking good. But just from the drawing im noticing a few things

1. He looks a bit scrawny, im not saying he should be large cos i know thats your thing. But just muscled up a bit. I dont think old and frail really works for Ogres, arent they Cannabalistic? wouldnt they chow on the weak? (Sorry if im getting the fluff all wrong)

2. I like the idea of the grey base, but think it should be washed blue. Just for the tinge. Or maybe do the final highlight with Ice Blue (GW paint).

3. I dont really like the idea of the bushy brow covering his eyes. It doesnt feel right to me, by all means try it out, but i dont think it will work.

4. The runes falling from one hand to the other is a sweet idea. i love it! But it may be hard to do, i would recommend having the runes in one hand, with the other waving about it while he chants mumbo jumbo.

5. I love your army. I love everything in and about it. Great work. I salute you!

This thread is amazing!

Truly wonderful sculpting on every individual model and conveniently the Ogres have really shifted over to an "ice age" frosted look in the new book.

Can't wait to see the finished paintjob on your first model for this army. I already like what I see for it though!

Will be following!

I like the scrawny idea. I think it would make him scarier! What's scarier than a huge, musclebound, rock weilding giant? The little teeny guy that he's afraid of!

I think a little grey in the skin tone would make him look older, but don't stray too far or he will look like a different species (especially if he is a significantly different size).

I also think it would be tough to do the runes like you've drawn them, but you could try to get some really fine wire or fishing line and string them up, but I don't think you have the space, even with ogres. Maybe you could just have a few more runes and could model a continuous strand falling from one hand to the other.

What do you think about some sort of animal skull on his head, like a boar or something? That would give a pretty sweet shaman look!

Lastly, I think he needs a weapon somewhere...

Hmmm, I seem to be overly opinionated this morning...

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Rawson

Interesting concept. I'm sure it will be very enlightening to see how you can pull this off.

Looking forward to seeing this next guy

I'm wracking my brains as to how he's gonna pull off tumbling runes though

S_P

Have you considered doing him more white or crystalline?

I am staeling an idea from the Chaos Dwarves here... their spell casters i think turn to stone or iron as they age. The eldar farseers also turn to wraithbone as they age.

What about a similar concept for the rune shaman.. as he ages he becomes more in tune with his surroundiings to the point that he is becoming a part of it i.e. turning to ice.

I would check beanos space wolf thread, he had runes on his dreadnought (he took silver at Games Day USA) he could give you tips on where he got them or how he did them.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/266156.page

Here is the link.

How long does it take you to sculpt one of these guys? Just in the green stuff stage?

Rawson: Rest assured he'll have some type of weapon I'm sure. As for the runes I'm thinking of emulating the Ork bit that have the spent casings diagonally corner to corner going up and down. Something like that.

Dantay: I love that idea! I guess what i meant by grey rather than blue was just the base color. The blue on the giants is so vibrant if i could mute that a bit but maintain the same general tone that would be what i had in mind. I actually did some basing last night and it turned out great actually fairly similar to Beanos' fantastic dread (i hope )! I plan to get some of the Vallejo Water Gel too to do some quality icicles because i have plans.....so many plans...

Ahem...but yea, I'll totally play around with that!

Kitch: Hard to say, i haven't timed it and i don't have lots of time to really sit down and grind it out like i want too. If i HAD to guess for the sculpting i would say roughly 3-5 hours not including curing as i generally will walk away and do something else. I could be super off though, I'll try and keep the time in mind on my next one.

Thanks for the ideas and encouragement guys!

You got me thinking about the falling runes. Why not run a piece of thin thin thin wire from one hand to another in an exagerated zigzag pattern then you could drill a small hole the same diameter as the wire through a small piece of plasticard in the shape of the runes.
Then you simply thread them on and put a small drip of superglue on the inside of the hole.

This should achieve a pretty cool falling rune effect. But the obvious downside is a piece of wire running from his hand to the other one. You could, in theory, paint the wire the same colour as the robes, which would look reallly really cool. But alas you would still have the same problem from people looking at it from the side.

Infact, this is an idea i way very well try it on something.

-Tekeino

Secret weapon do brass etch runes, iirc.