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I think maybe a small (for a frost giant) hand-axe could be a good move on this guy. Also, I reckon a belt wouldn't look too bad on the SB.

What's the length of this fella's beard going to be like? Are we talking a comfortable sized growth of face-fungus, or a good ol' knee tickler?

Something like this I hope *hint*



S_P

FPS: I would say give him a shield. maybe put his an axe on his belt, but any great standard bearer will beat down anyone with the standard just to prove his point.

my $.02

Weapon or shield? hm... If he is holding the standard resting against his shoulder than I think it should be a weapon in his other hand. But I like the idea of him battering someones face with the standard.

Which reminds me: Standards aren't always flags. He could be holding anything that the Frost Giants hold special or sacred. It could be a fancy club or something.

On the other hand, the standard bearer is meant to e a hardier fighter, so he could be sporting a weapon as he is skilled enough to use it to parry and strike in the same motion.

OR, have you thought about a weaponlized shield? Something with sharp angles and spikes sticking out of it.

Lots of good possibilities, but I think it depends how you see him holding the standard, and what the standard is.

Ok, reading over the posts again, going with the older, chubbier thing, I think a shield that can easily be used as a weapon and a standard that can be used as a weapon if he need or wants to would be perfect. That way he is protected so he doesn't have to work as hard to stay off a blade (so he's put on some pounds) but he can still nail anything to the floor if it crosses him.

Wow. I'm not sure how I missed this, but this is excellent work!

I like the idea of the standard being some form of significant weapon; maybe a large broken sword that's used as a rallying point to remind them of some past failure? Maybe this older guy is one of the few survivors of a massacre and he's leading the younger generation into battle carrying a reminder of this

Polar bear skin banner coming out of a pack on his back while wielding two small double headed battle axes.

"The GS-fu is strong in this one" Yoda.

Meat cleaver.... big dirty , instant arming meat cleaver . For cleaving heads.

The SB is looking really cool, the way you describe the paunch reminds me of Col. Corbec from the Gaunts Ghosts stories.

As for the primer, no idea what a respray will do, I hope it will come out okay, if you have some chaos black, why dont you use a brush an apply some to a non obvious area (under a foot, behind a shield or something and see how it dries.

I'd say weapon,as he would use it to keep the others in-line or kill any enemies who came at him, the shield would not be so good for that, although it would be representative of his armour save.

I do like the idea of having the weapon and shield on the same arm, but I think that would work if he was holding a long knife behind the shield with the blade just poking out. That way his arm would not look overloaded.

Or give the shield a razor sharp edge so he can swing and hack with it (a bit like the spartans di from time to time in the movie 300)

Thanks guys!

Couple of updates:

Resprayed my first guy and jobs a good 'un. I started painting and I'm happy with the colors so far, nothing pic worthy though as I'm just tooling around trying to remember how to paint.

Here's the pattern for some of the cloth bits I'll be using:



These tartan people are serious about their patterns! Just another thing I've learned from this project. Seriously though i think the burnt orange will make the blue skin pop and it should be a pretty striking look. I have no doubt it'll take some practice to look right though.

I decided to go weapon for the SB, after some mock ups it just looks "right". I found a really cool scenery brick that would make an imposing stone hammer . Also i decided that the raven style banner would be a way better BSB than a unit standard so I'll have to think of something else for this guy. Maybe a vertical hanging banner with various bits, but that's basically the last step so i can wait.

Finished his waistline and codpiece so shoulders will be tonight hopefully. I'll post pics when it's update worthy!

My vote would be a massive Samuria style back banner, with a 2 handed axe remiscent of:

Here's one I prepared earlier! Maybe a double headed stone club? Covered in the gore and brains of a hundred victims!

kitch102 wrote:Here's one I prepared earlier! Maybe a double headed stone club? Covered in the gore and brains of a hundred victims!

Haha that's great! While i can't go GW since they're bulls I'm seriously considering that back banner. Then i can go HW:S as the counts as Ironfist. Plus i think it will look pretty brutal. I think I'll try lining an edge of the shield with a bladed edge. Either way i have to finish the back and shoulders since i can do either pose with the same build, but after that I'll be able to judge it better.

Thanks for the ideas Kitch and Dantay!

YOu're very welcome buddy, though I'm now thinking that twin swords could look just so brutal.

You ever seen a show called Deadliest Warrior? They simulate battles between warriors fom different sides of the world against each other, like nija's vs medieval knights? They had this one on, I think they were Buddhists or monks of some kind, and they had these swords that curled right around at the tip so they could join both together to make one huge sword... trying to find a picture but no luck yet. That would be unique and pretty cool, not sure if it'd be too much of a nimble weapon for such a brute though - wdyt?


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Even better - here's a video of the exactthing I'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzcrJ64yFFU&feature=related

Pretty decent update today actually. I feel bad I've been nickle and diming it lately (blah blah work blah) but i have made some good progress i think.

On the standard bearer front:





Seems like the camera (iphone) is making the hammer comically huge but i like the look in person. This guy is turning out so well to me it's crazy. I don't usually make static poses so i went in feeling pretty uncomfortable but maybe I'm getting the rust off because he's turning out better than i had hoped. I also decided i can do the HW plus the Shieldfist regardless of banner type i use. So the dilemma is thus, which banner type:

The classic and original design for this guy, adding the hand around the banner properly of course:



Or the newly suggested Back Banner, which would require making a harness of some sort:



I'm leaning towards option A just because i think it looks more interesting honestly. The layering of the shield to hand to banner i think adds a lot of depth and is full of character. I also think the harness i would need to make would clutter up the torso. I just convinced myself while typing this...I'll revisit the idea when trying my ironguts.

In painting news, my first attempt at tartan was pretty darn good i think. I think it will look awesome with the colors I've chosen. I have the Bellower totally base coated now and I'm chomping at the bit to dig in tonight. If i have anything good come tomorrow I'll post it, I'd love to get some color/painting critiques.

I just need my Skullcraft Winter Basing Kit to come too and I'll be happy. I can't wait to play around with it, Ogres have so much real estate to work with!

I'm going to vote for banner in the hand, looks better there IMO
Also that hammer is awesome!

Right now, it looks like he has a marshmallow hammer.

Also, any fire-shooting/breathing should be accomplished by the TRADITIONAL NORDIC MEANS.

A tankard of really potent alcohol, and a TORCH.

I'm just sayin'.

--Brian

Beautiful work.

looks dumb on back

I don't like on the back as much as the first pose. That first pose is sick!

Omg, can't wait to see your finished army 0.o

The BSB is looking good. I think you have the right idea about the banner. I think the back banner could work great for one of them, but I think it should be so he can use both hands for fighting.

this is EPIC!

Wonderful Start of something great.
You just earned a spot in my Hall of Heroes (inspirational folder)

Keep up the good work,

Cheers,

Bra'tac

I'm vouching for option a too, it looks cooler and the bottom of the standard looks as though it could be used as a spear, which rocks!

Wow, just came accross this thread today. Your GSfu is definatly strong I can just about manage to give someone a mullet

Looking forward to seeing how this continues to pan out. I think the back banner would be good, but i agree that the harness would clutter up the torso too much, so going for the standard in hand will look much better over all.

You should take loads of pics of the next one you make and turn them into a tutorial!

With the amount of time you're putting in to each model, it's a good thing Ogre Kingdoms is a low model count army

I'm digging your banner bearer. I think you've pulled off the "used to be stacked" look quite well.

The look fantastic! I agree (with apparently everyone) that the hand banner would be best.

Keep it up!

Cheers,
Rawson

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the feedback!

Briancj wrote:Right now, it looks like he has a marshmallow hammer.

Also, any fire-shooting/breathing should be accomplished by the TRADITIONAL NORDIC MEANS.

A tankard of really potent alcohol, and a TORCH.

I'm just sayin'.

--Brian

Beautiful work.

That's a great idea! I'll have to revisit that when the book comes out and i determine whether or not that unit has a place in my army.

haloreach4ever wrote:You should take loads of pics of the next one you make and turn them into a tutorial!

I generally do actually, I guess i just figured they weren't worth documenting. I'll try this and see if people like it.

Rawson wrote:With the amount of time you're putting in to each model, it's a good thing Ogre Kingdoms is a low model count army

Seriously....

These Giants look really aces, man. Loving the thread. Keep up the great work!

Some paint!



So there is a bit of shading on the face and torso but not much. I'm still getting the rust off so i should be able to tighten it up before he's done. Other than the little shading it's just base coat so everything should be pretty drastically lighter when finished. His shield sash will be that tartan pattern i linked earlier as I'd like that to be a common theme. His cuffs and boots will be lined with a dark grey fur as well since i may use a darker armor on future models.

Not entirely sold on the hair yet, but i have to wait until his actual skin tone comes through since he's a damn smurf a the moment. I just don't want to have my whole army just have the classic white hair, I want to mix it up.

Standard bearer:





New shield design for the Ironfist, i think it keeps the Norse aesthetic but adds a unique twist. I think it turned out well and I'll incorporate more on future models. I just need to clean some of the GS transitions, finish his back, Head/neck, hair, and modify his hand a bit to look more natural.

Edit: OOOH! I forgot, i also bought two boxes of these for my gnoblars. Drastically modeling 2 point models would make me cut something vital on myself so i think these with a few tweaks will look awesome:

Nice smurf. Looking forward to seeing the finished version.

Really digging the standard bearer, and am really glad you went with the banner and shield in hand pose. Can't wait to see it done!

Off to an interesting start with the paint job, can't wait to see the finished product.

How do the dwarfs fit in the fluff and will they be blue as well?