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**Luke_Prowler**

I don't know what's worse: that I've seen these same arguments in the defense of making insulting of 40k players, or that I've seen these same arguments in the defense of insulting gay people.

Well, the first one is more hypocritical and the second is just sad.

**DeathReaper**

Shadowbrand wrote:Imo, grow some thicker skin bronies or else you will always just be prodded at to see you over react.

1000% this.

I have a friend that makes fun of peopls armies/paintjobs/list composition just to see them get upset.

He once, while looking at a "well painted army" (His words), made fun of the red and green Xmas theme Eldar army just because he knew it would get a rise out of the owner of said Xmas Eldar.

There is an old saying, that is a good phrase to keep in mind:

Those that mind do not matter, those that matter do not mind.

No matter what you do, people will make fun of you. Especially if you do something that is out of the norm (AKA Something people think is stupid.

E.G. being a guy and playing with barbie dolls, or watching MLP, etc.

**Shadowbrand**

Finally, somebody who shares my opinion!

And I thought we had gone to the dogs...Err ponies.

**Dravenguild**

Some advice for the youngins in general, water off a duck's back man.

Thicker skin, ignore it. Sure I may think you're paint scheme is godawful but you have every right to ignore it as I do to say it.

Not that I would off the bat, I will not make hasty remarks of scorn and I'm a pretty tolerant person, though if your ilk decide to invade more of my interests with your damn girls show I may be slightly perturbed.

**carlos13th**

Ignore them. They are being idiots and insults thrown at you like f*g show how pathetic some of these people are. Its like many of the Xbox Live community.

I love that quote btw Death Reaper. Ive not heard it put so succinctly before.

**Castiel**

I think the complaint is that the abuse came from a GW redshirt. He is there to make patrons of the shop feel comfortable and to provide help to customers, yet he insulted an army, that looks like it has a really nice colour scheme IMHO, purely for the reason that the inspiration for the name came from the MLP world. This behaviour from a person in his position is unacceptable.

**Melcavuk**

The GW employee had no right to make an insulting comment over anyones paintjob. At the end of the day you were using GW miniatures painted with GW paints, so you're army was fine as is. I have no experience with MLP and short of having pictures of pink horses all over the marines would have just thought it was a unique paint job. That said if it was pink horses I would have been shocked and likely found it out of place... but it's you're army, at the end of the day if it doesnt fit into "my" 40k thats my problem. (If I can overlook unpainted/armless unassembled marines then I'd be stupid to not overlook pink pony marines)

**Xenocidal Maniac**

I feel like I have stumbled upon some weird, alternate version of the internet here. Did I not get the memo? What in seven hells is going on around here?

Is this some kind of thing? Grown men watch my little pony? And why am I suddenly seeing a lot of avatars that vaguely resemble stylized My Little Pony characters?!

Seriously, uh, I can't even comprehend what is going on here. Is there some kind of weird underground fan scene for a 30 year old cartoon?

And why would anyone theme Space Marines after them?

I feel like I did the first time that I discovered that "furries" existed.

**ZebioLizard2**

Xenocidal Maniac wrote:I feel like I have stumbled upon some weird, alternate version of the internet here. Did I not get the memo? What in seven hells is going on around here?

Is this some kind of thing? Grown men watch my little pony? And why am I suddenly seeing a lot of avatars that vaguely resemble stylized My Little Pony characters?!

Seriously, uh, I can't even comprehend what is going on here. Is there some kind of weird underground fan scene for a 30 year old cartoon?

And why would anyone theme Space Marines after them?

I feel like I did the first time that I discovered that "furries" existed.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

**Hazardous Harry**

Kaldor wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
Kaldor wrote:If you're going to incorporate something as stupid as MLP in your 40K, you'd better expect the blowback. Doesn't mean they were right, but you gotta expect it.

Just sayin.

...and ignorance and judgement rears its ugly head (reported). How is a white and gold scheme with a military symbol not appropriate for space marines?!

What someone does in their own time is their own business. But if you're going to do it in a public arena, then you'd better expect public commentary. And not all public commentary will be nice. In fact, the further you deviate from the 'norm', the more that negative feedback will grow.

Hell, as a customer I'd hate to be in a store that was full of adult fans of MLP. I'd hate to see MLP incorporated into 40K armies. And if a store condoned that kind of MLP content, however tacitly, I would not patronise it, and I'm certainly not alone here. It's downright creepy. As a customer, I'd appreciate store managers quietly asking customers to leave their MLP influences at home, or take their patronage elsewhere. There's no need to be rude about it, or do it in public though.

TL;DR - Don't come crying to the internet when people call you out for doing stupid things.

Are you serious?

1) Celestial Marines. A cool name. And people instantly think of Celestia, instead of the actual meaning of the word? Grow up. The paint scheme didn't even remotely resemble anything MLP.

2) Even if a person is playing an army that is obviously MLP inspired (which this was not) it is entirely their business. You don't have to play against their army, but it's their money and they can spend it however they want, and paint the models they've spent money on however they want. It takes a special sort of insecurity to be unnerved by someone who clearly likes MLP, and even moreso that they've painted their army a peculiar colour.

So not only was the GW staffer being insensitive and pig-headed, he was also dead wrong.

**Xenocidal Maniac**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Xenocidal Maniac wrote:I feel like I have stumbled upon some weird, alternate version of the internet here. Did I not get the memo? What in seven hells is going on around here?

Is this some kind of thing? Grown men watch my little pony? And why am I suddenly seeing a lot of avatars that vaguely resemble stylized My Little Pony characters?!

Seriously, uh, I can't even comprehend what is going on here. Is there some kind of weird underground fan scene for a 30 year old cartoon?

And why would anyone theme Space Marines after them?

I feel like I did the first time that I discovered that "furries" existed.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

I am literally speechless.

I don't even know how to react to this or to the OP.

I think I'm gonna just pretend I never saw this thread. I think it's better that way.

**ZebioLizard2**

Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Xenocidal Maniac wrote:I feel like I have stumbled upon some weird, alternate version of the internet here. Did I not get the memo? What in seven hells is going on around here?

Is this some kind of thing? Grown men watch my little pony? And why am I suddenly seeing a lot of avatars that vaguely resemble stylized My Little Pony characters?!

Seriously, uh, I can't even comprehend what is going on here. Is there some kind of weird underground fan scene for a 30 year old cartoon?

And why would anyone theme Space Marines after them?

I feel like I did the first time that I discovered that "furries" existed.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

I am literally speechless.

I don't even know how to react to this or to the OP.

I think I'm gonna just pretend I never saw this thread. I think it's better that way.

You'll never escape it's Pastel colored aura!

Have fun with that though.

**Reality-Torrent**

Bro, I'm confused.. Didn't you say the store-owner was present? If he was, wouldn't he correct his employer or fire him right of the bat? No matter, I can't see why your chapter would be "gay" to even label it as childish and/or "my little pony" style is moronic. I wouldn't give that store my money again and I would inform the store-owner of what transpired and the reason to why he WILL NOT see your money again.

**unmercifulconker**

That employee had no right to say those things. If you don't mind me saying, I am not a fan of mlp and I am sure some gamers feel the same and will criticise, everyone criticises. But for that to come from an employee, did the manager see hear and see this? That is a disgrace, its their job to sell products and encourage and inspire gamers to try new things or get new players in, not to insult someones work.

Still, you should still go back there and ignore the douchebag, if he is even there still.

edit: I would seek words with the douche who made the comment, seems he was brown nosing the employee.

**SagesStone**

Hazardous Harry wrote:
Kaldor wrote:
Lobukia wrote:
Kaldor wrote:If you're going to incorporate something as stupid as MLP in your 40K, you'd better expect the blowback. Doesn't mean they were right, but you gotta expect it.

Just sayin.

...and ignorance and judgement rears its ugly head (reported). How is a white and gold scheme with a military symbol not appropriate for space marines?!

What someone does in their own time is their own business. But if you're going to do it in a public arena, then you'd better expect public commentary. And not all public commentary will be nice. In fact, the further you deviate from the 'norm', the more that negative feedback will grow.

Hell, as a customer I'd hate to be in a store that was full of adult fans of MLP. I'd hate to see MLP incorporated into 40K armies. And if a store condoned that kind of MLP content, however tacitly, I would not patronise it, and I'm certainly not alone here. It's downright creepy. As a customer, I'd appreciate store managers quietly asking customers to leave their MLP influences at home, or take their patronage elsewhere. There's no need to be rude about it, or do it in public though.

TL;DR - Don't come crying to the internet when people call you out for doing stupid things.

Are you serious?

1) Celestial Marines. A cool name. And people instantly think of Celestia, instead of the actual meaning of the word? Grow up. The paint scheme didn't even remotely resemble anything MLP.

Cool enough name for a successor chapter of the Crimsion Fists to take the name, though they called themselves the Celestial Guard. Coincidentally their scheme looks like a bit of a mix of the two OP mentioned; the guard one he described and the marine one he posted.

**Hunterindarkness**

n0t_u wrote:

I dig those myself. Purple is the color of royltry after all.

**Kaldor**

Hazardous Harry wrote:
Are you serious?...

... it is entirely their business. You don't have to play against their army, but it's their money and they can spend it however they want, and paint the models they've spent money on however they want.

Yes they can. And I'm free to express my own opinions on it as well.

This is the real world, you don't get to do whatever you want in public without public comment.

**Hazardous Harry**

Kaldor wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Are you serious?...

... it is entirely their business. You don't have to play against their army, but it's their money and they can spend it however they want, and paint the models they've spent money on however they want.

Yes they can. And I'm free to express my own opinions on it as well.

This is the real world, you don't get to do whatever you want in public without public comment.

And I'm free to point out that your opinion is bigoted and insecure. As well as horrible, horrible business practice for a store.

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Hunterindarkness wrote:
n0t_u wrote:
*image*

I dig those myself. Purple is the color of royalty after all.

Seconded.

**ZebioLizard2**

Kaldor wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Are you serious?...

... it is entirely their business. You don't have to play against their army, but it's their money and they can spend it however they want, and paint the models they've spent money on however they want.

Yes they can. And I'm free to express my own opinions on it as well.

This is the real world, you don't get to do whatever you want in public without public comment.

And of course people are free to express their own opinions on your public comments as well.

I dig those myself. Purple is the color of royalty after all.

I find it funny, that color is the exact color of one of the ponies in the show. I wonder if that would count as being a MLP army.

**Hazardous Harry**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:

I dig those myself. Purple is the color of royalty after all.

I find it funny, that color is the exact color of one of the ponies in the show. I wonder if that would count as being a MLP army.

That would mean that they've been infiltrating GW before the show was even released. By the Emperor, the MLP insurgency runs deeper than we could ever have suspected!

**Kaldor**

Hazardous Harry wrote:And I'm free to point out that your opinion is bigoted and insecure. As well as horrible, horrible business practice for a store.

You can say whatever blows your hair back, son. Doesn't make MLP fans any less creepy and strange.

And I can tell you right now, a store that prevents adults from indulging in MLP is a store with a much, much safer atmosphere as far as parents are concerned and one full of MLP fans is one I'd never enter.

**Reality-Torrent**

MLP stands for?

**ZebioLizard2**

Kaldor wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:And I'm free to point out that your opinion is bigoted and insecure. As well as horrible, horrible business practice for a store.

You can say whatever blows your hair back, son. Doesn't make MLP fans any less creepy and strange.

And I can tell you right now, a store that prevents adults from indulging in MLP is a store with a much, much safer atmosphere as far as parents are concerned and one full of MLP fans is one I'd never enter.

Yes because people continually speaking in strange, grammatical incorrect tongues (Krump da gits!), continual references to "Burn the Heretics", references to bigotry, hatred, and outright violence done upon others for the sake of blind faith, along with Xenophobia, graphical death, and all the violence summed up with a crowd of people screaming BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD or WAAAAAAAAGH! that can be heard several stores down.

Yes, because people who play Warhammer are perfectly safe with kids!

MLP stands for?

My little pony. Current generation anyways.

**Reality-Torrent**

Yeah but what does it mean? It's not like people are bringing in a bunch of small horses to fight. What is "MLP" of making a space marine chapter?

**ZebioLizard2**

Reality-Torrent wrote:Yeah but what does it mean? It's not like people are bringing in a bunch of small horses to fight. What is "MLP" of making a space marine chapter?

Read the original post, The guy had a marked up coloring scheme planned out (Gold and white, with the Fleur De Lis as a symbol) and was showing it off, but the people there recognized it from the show as the other goddess ( he had little flags on his imperial guard tank that was the mark of one of the goddesses in the show), so they recognized his scheme as being based around the other. Thus insulting him.

Basically they are just being insulting over a paint job that wouldn't be really recognizable unless you know about the show in general.

**Reality-Torrent**

Hold on here.. That symbol is a common symbol and is not owned by or solely used by any children show. A different color scheme is not only allowed by GW but encouraged.

So the real reason that people use words like "creepy" when trying to insult him is basically because they hold a fascination for MLP which they are gravely ashamed of? How else would they know of what you speak?

**Joey**

I don't see what's particularly gay/effeminate about the OP's colour scheme.
I also don't see why you didn't just report the guy?!?

**ZebioLizard2**

Reality-Torrent wrote:Hold on here.. That symbol is a common symbol and is not owned by or solely used by any children show. A different color scheme is not only allowed by GW but encouraged.

So the real reason that people use words like "creepy" when trying to insult him is basically because they hold a fascination for MLP which they are gravely ashamed of? How else would they know of what you speak?

He could speak of it, if someone asked "Is that from MLP" he could go with an affirmative if he felt it, and if they asked or he continued on they could potentially learn.

As for the creepy comments, that'd just be Kaldor being Kaldor.

**Hazardous Harry**

Kaldor wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:And I'm free to point out that your opinion is bigoted and insecure. As well as horrible, horrible business practice for a store.

You can say whatever blows your hair back, son. Doesn't make MLP fans any less creepy and strange.

I'm not your son, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, friend.
I'm not your friend, mate.

And I can tell you right now, a store that prevents adults from indulging in MLP is a store with a much, much safer atmosphere as far as parents are concerned and one full of MLP fans is one I'd never enter.

So you have guys that collect factions that indulge in Blood Sacrifices and an Authoritarian Regime that resembles the Spanish Inquisition after taking a crash-course on how to grim-darkify things up. Yet you think parents are going to be worried about the guys who watch kid shows?

Reality-Torrent wrote:Hold on here.. That symbol is a common symbol and is not owned by or solely used by any children show. A different color scheme is not only allowed by GW but encouraged.

So the real reason that people use words like "creepy" when trying to insult him is basically because they hold a fascination for MLP which they are gravely ashamed of? How else would they know of what you speak?

**Agen**

Squidmanlolz wrote:You were plenty justified, the guy was being an arse hat of royal magnitude.

Uhm, you may want to re-do that post..., I don't see anywhere in the OP's comment about getting critisized over the paint scheme or chapter's name...