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I don't think traxking strats/ploys etc is too much of a chore in KT2. You got your 3 cards, plus your handful of faction specific ploys. And with only 3CP at the start of a game, up to a maximum of 7CP if you never spend a CP before the last turning point.. nowhere near the clusterflock of 40K
   
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Yeah, I've just been able to look at the book since yesterday, but I am more favorably impressed than I thought I would be with it. I still think the movement symbols are unnecessary and stupid, since they specifically tell you that you can break up or combine any symbols, but I like the stratagems and equipment more than the implementation in 40K. A freaking widget with 1", 2", 3" would have served precisely as well. I can't find any point anywhere in the rules where the symbols do anything that inches do not do (especially since you always round up or down to whole numbers).

The factions that have a specialized Kill Team are just way more interesting, though, than the ones in the Compendium. It may actually be a bad sign for AdMech that they are getting rules in White Dwarf. I suspect that the factions that are getting new models in the quarterly KT releases won't show up in the magazine, and the ones with no release planned are the ones that will show up there.

I also think that KT 2021 would have benefitted immensely from a designer's commentary on Warhammer Community. It really feels like it was, even more than 40K, deliberately designed as the pivotal moment of a larger battle. It is almost the counterpoint to Necromunda, where a lot of the game is jockeying for position, establishing or denying lines of sight, waiting out your opponent, etc. This game would be TERRIBLE if that was what it was trying to be. Instead, it basically assumes everybody has already gotten into position, and this just the deciding seconds of the firefight.

If you want lots of maneuvering and positioning like Necromunda, or even lots of back and forth like 40K (attempts), this is not the right game.

 
   
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I wonder if the symbols are a stop gap from an earlier version of Kill Team development ~cough~Fireteam~cough~ You know in early development when the game used 2” hexes instead of free movement.
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/16/gen-con-tau-pathfinders-rumble-with-all-new-novitiate-sisters-in-the-first-kill-team-expansion/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=40k&utm_id=Twitter&utm_term=40k&utm_content=40kChalnath16Sept21

Kill Team: Chalnath with SoB & Tau

Kill Team: Chalnath contains a full complement of Imperial ruins to fill your killzone, with plenty of Vantage Points and Obscuring terrain.

Inside the box, you’ll find a Rules Manual that includes nine new missions, covering everything from broadcasting propaganda to launching missile strikes against your opponents. The book also contains expanded rules for both squads in the box, with a whole host of bespoke Strategic Ploys, Battle Honours, and more – like we saw for the two factions in the Kill Team: Octarius launch box.

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Anyone received the new White Dwarf with the Ad Mech rules yet? I usually get my subscription copy early but hasn’t turned up yet.

My local Tesco has broken street date and has it up for sale.
   
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Not too taken With the noviciate design. It’s a bit too low tech for my liking.

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Gathering the Informations.

Aeneades wrote:
Anyone received the new White Dwarf with the Ad Mech rules yet? I usually get my subscription copy early but hasn’t turned up yet.

My local Tesco has broken street date and has it up for sale.

Lucky you....I can't even order it until October!
   
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Aeneades wrote:
Anyone received the new White Dwarf with the Ad Mech rules yet? I usually get my subscription copy early but hasn’t turned up yet.

My local Tesco has broken street date and has it up for sale.


The scans are online, so someone has.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Aeneades wrote:
Anyone received the new White Dwarf with the Ad Mech rules yet? I usually get my subscription copy early but hasn’t turned up yet.

My local Tesco has broken street date and has it up for sale.


The scans are online, so someone has.


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Recycling old models and terrain is a bit lame (but not unexpected) after Octarius but at least the Sisters are nice. Someone pointed out the potential Sisters of Sigmar conversions for Mordheim and that is an option I have to seriously consider.

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Sisters and Tau are both new, only the terrain isn’t.

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 Nostromodamus wrote:
Sisters and Tau are both new, only the terrain isn’t.


The Tau are an upgrade sprue with the existing kit.
   
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This terrain is otherwise out of print so there's some value here for people who missed it, probably even more so for those who have some and want to expand.

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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Nostromodamus wrote:
Sisters and Tau are both new, only the terrain isn’t.


The Tau are an upgrade sprue with the existing kit.


Indeed.

Warhammer Community article wrote: This is an update to the existing T’au Pathfinder kit, which comes with a comprehensive upgrade sprue to add a great number of options to an already-flexible squad. There are new heads, weaponry, upgrades, and all the gadgets a high-tech team of incredibly skilled operators could need.


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/16/gen-con-tau-pathfinders-rumble-with-all-new-novitiate-sisters-in-the-first-kill-team-expansion/

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poor-man (woman) sister is a huge meh, awkward pose and they couldn't even bother to design a Sister-pattern Autopistol. You can't be that lazy to even make 1 pattern when Tzaangor have 3 different patterns for that gun.

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I could see myself getting one of these boxes, and then trying to find someone selling a second set of Sisters + some of the terrain sprues.

Is it weird that the thing I'm happiest about the most is the Sector Imperialis archway sprue coming back?

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I’ve still got the big building, less the statutes on sprue.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve still got the big building, less the statutes on sprue.
I have all of it still on the sprue!

But only one archway sprue... I need more...

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I knew it would happen, but I'm annoyed the rules for the kill teams are in the terrain box, and not in the kits themselves.

I'll just to have to find other ways to get the rules I need, I guess.
   
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wonder how much the new Kill Team core box will be considering they cut out some of the terrain? Wonder if Chalnath will be $200 USD as well. Also the orks and death korps boxes will be releasing solo so we should get a view of what those boxes will be.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve still got the big building, less the statutes on sprue.
I have all of it still on the sprue!

But only one archway sprue... I need more...


These days I look at my archway thing built out of 4 of them built into a square and cringe. So many better uses, but thanks to the original kill team starter I had so many spare at the time.

What I really miss is the 3 wide wall panel sprue that only appeared in the Sector holiday set. Maybe that will reappear in the next box set? Or even better some chaos or eldar buildings like the ork shantytown. Too bad this one passed up the chance for a set of T'own buildings.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve still got the big building, less the statutes on sprue.
I have all of it still on the sprue!

But only one archway sprue... I need more...


I think mine include the archway.

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I don't think the new KT box can cost the same as Octarius. No core rules, no tokens, no cards, no barricades or gauges.. I'd wager it will end up costing about the same as a 40K Battleforce box.

I like that the SoB are boobplateless, but want to see the sprues in order to know just how flexible the new kit is.

I'm at two minds regarding the Pathfinders. I love the new upgrade sprue, it could spice up any T'au infantry unit with the new heads & accessories. but at the same time, the old sculpt of the kit, especially the legs, still look derpy.
   
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Very disappointed with the Sisters - do not like the headgear on any of them at all - and agree they look more at home in Fantasy than 40k. Is a bummer because I was hoping they'd come out with a small mixed box of Sisters at some point that I could have picked up for fun.
   
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Overall I find these recent news refreshing, we will have 5 proper Killteam lists out soon, 4 with an individualized model range. 2 of them are xenos and none are Mureens. I know the sky is falling. I'm happy that after so much Marine on Marine action, this design team dares to go with a different approach. In many regards that is. Also they uphold what the main 40K line betrayed, that 2021 would be a Xenos year. a 7/10 for me on the first look.

The sisters look different, but I do not really see it that problematic. Apart from some of the facial structures, I really like the design. It's feminine and muscular without going into the boobplate territory of over feminisation.
It's different, especially on the headgear. But then I don't see a problem for long time players, since about any of the models has at least one model in the current range that is close enough to replace/count as with. Maybe thats the only real issue, they do not look that different as individuals in gear compared to the DKoK or Ork kit. Also as already mentioned, Fantasy players have some nice conversion posibilites. I really like that we are getting access to Novitiates. Were there ever models for that? So that is a plus on the fluff side.

T'au are effectively only getting an upgrade sprew. I think the design fits in nicely with the current range (any wonkyness aside) and let's face it, they won't get a redo of Pathfinders for a long time.

Completely new Xenos terrain would have been best, but at least it is an otherwise unavailable kit. It is a bit bland though, the Ork terrain has lots of details comparatively.

Again, I really like that Killteam is at least feeling different and so far it feels for me more like the design team got a pass to do what they love, instead of doing what is best based on marketing/sales analytics.

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Have we heard what Kill teams 5 and 6 are going to be?

I know the Rangers are a pretty good bet, but I wasn't aware of anything actually stating that.
   
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Oh, we're getting Not!Scouts to go with out Not!Predator in our Not!Space Marines. Neat!

A little more seriously, I appreciate getting a new Sisters unit. I'll appreciate it even more if it ends up as our second Troops choice and allows for a little more variety in army building.

As for the execution, I'm not immediately thrilled by what I'm seeing. On the other hand, I'm not seeing anything necessarily standing out negatively either. Seems like a kit I'm going to have to see more of before I have a firm opinion on it. What I do have an opinion on is the color scheme. It's horrid. Normally I just acknowledge that 'Eavy Metal style isn't for me and move on safe in the knowledge that it's just a paintjob and my models will look pleasing to me, but in this case the color scheme actively gets in my way when I try to figure out if I like the models. It's really hard for me to see past it.

For the specific bits shown, I'm less interested in the Kill Team specialists and am getting a best of Sisters equipment vibe from them that's even stronger than what I got from the Death Korps. Not enough normal guys to make the special guys actually look special, and not enough uniformity for a force that I would generally describe as very regimented.

And the color scheme sucks.

 tauist wrote:
I like that the SoB are boobplateless..


Well duh! Can't have boobplate if you're not wearing plate.

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 Geifer wrote:
Oh, we're getting Not!Scouts to go with out Not!Predator in our Not!Space Marines. Neat!


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New Sisters - nice ( although we do now have the first world problem of Marine style constant releases! So new unit straight after Codex....)

I quite like the models too and some nice new options (and probably could make some nice Sisters of Sigmar)

I like the theme - faith and close combat vs Technology and Stealth

The Tai models are ok but ughh that burst cannon drone - is that really the best they could do?



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 Mr Morden wrote:
New Sisters - nice ( although we do now have the first world problem of Marine style constant releases! So new unit straight after Codex....)

I quite like the models too and some nice new options (and probably could make some nice Sisters of Sigmar)

I like the theme - faith and close combat vs Technology and Stealth

The Tai models are ok but ughh that burst cannon drone - is that really the best they could do?





Not that it really changes your point but the drones aren’t new, they’re part of the existing Pathfinders kit.
   
 
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