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It's a simple return on investment. The invest a minimum of effort($€£¥) and it earns them tons of $€£¥. They have zero incentive to change it. If it ain't broke(returns) don't fix it.
   
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Warhammer + is a long term investment for me of $60. The type that will be worth it in the long run or not. (Sometimes I get burnt, like eternal crusade)
   
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 Overread wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I'm not getting it. I might wait for a year and then by a single month to binge watch everything. That's about it.


And that's totally fair and clearly GW think many will that. Which is why they bundle in things like the models and the vouchers to encourage people to remain subscribed. Of course if you don't want either of those things then the service has much less value.

Alongside it you've also got app-access which is a good boon and, again, if you use it its worth the cost; but if you don't or if you feel the apps aren't any good (the 40K one seems to have some issues); then yep its got less value.


A discount voucher means nothing when their 3rd party retailers can offer upwards to 20% off their webstore prices.

The unique model is the only interesting thing.
   
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Jarms48 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I'm not getting it. I might wait for a year and then by a single month to binge watch everything. That's about it.


And that's totally fair and clearly GW think many will that. Which is why they bundle in things like the models and the vouchers to encourage people to remain subscribed. Of course if you don't want either of those things then the service has much less value.

Alongside it you've also got app-access which is a good boon and, again, if you use it its worth the cost; but if you don't or if you feel the apps aren't any good (the 40K one seems to have some issues); then yep its got less value.


A discount voucher means nothing when their 3rd party retailers can offer upwards to 20% off their webstore prices.

The unique model is the only interesting thing.


Unless maybe you use it on something that has a preorder bonus that's only through the GW website, on a collector's edition that can be tough to come by on 3rd party retailer sites, etc.
   
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Jarms48 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I'm not getting it. I might wait for a year and then by a single month to binge watch everything. That's about it.


And that's totally fair and clearly GW think many will that. Which is why they bundle in things like the models and the vouchers to encourage people to remain subscribed. Of course if you don't want either of those things then the service has much less value.

Alongside it you've also got app-access which is a good boon and, again, if you use it its worth the cost; but if you don't or if you feel the apps aren't any good (the 40K one seems to have some issues); then yep its got less value.


A discount voucher means nothing when their 3rd party retailers can offer upwards to 20% off their webstore prices.

The unique model is the only interesting thing.


a) they can't really offer 20% on webstore items(their own discount they get from GW is nearly zero on those. Were they offer 20% discount on those they would pay more to GW than they get from you.)
b) you buy 25$ with free shipping with 10$ discount, you pay 15$. You paid 15$ for 25$, 40% discount.

You were saying something about 20% discount? Try 40%.

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I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've purchased something off the GW webstore.

If the voucher worked on FW then maybe it would make more sense(for me at least).

+ just doesn't have ANY value to me. I've spoken with my friends that are aware of 40k and gave them the speil for wh+, unsurprisingly ZERO of them had any interest. Whereas, when astartes and other indie animations were coming out they were interested/excited. The fact it was behind a paywall now just kinda turned them off.
   
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you buy 25$ with free shipping with 10$ discount, you pay 15$. You paid 15$ for 25$, 40% discount.

Yes, but for $25 you can buy basically some paints and accessories. For space marines, 25 bucks gets you the 2015 commander kit, the cheapest Primaris model is $35. $25 is basically nothing in GW pricing terms.
   
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GW - makes loads of Primaris Lt sculpts.

Battle Report - keeps using the same model

Sound mix is a little off on the Iax battle report. Some of the voice over sounds a bit muffled.

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Cronch wrote:
Yes, but for $25 you can buy basically some paints and accessories. For space marines, 25 bucks gets you the 2015 commander kit, the cheapest Primaris model is $35. $25 is basically nothing in GW pricing terms.

For the $35 model it is still a ~29% discount. And can you really say you have enough paints, like... ever?

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a_typical_hero wrote:
Cronch wrote:
Yes, but for $25 you can buy basically some paints and accessories. For space marines, 25 bucks gets you the 2015 commander kit, the cheapest Primaris model is $35. $25 is basically nothing in GW pricing terms.

For the $35 model it is still a ~29% discount. And can you really say you have enough paints, like... ever?

I can, but also I'd rather order the paints directly from LGS than from GW, a least part of the money goes into local economy this way + wider selection than just GW paints (which are fine, but limited pallete)
The voucher might be an incentive if you buy directly from GW on the regular, but if you don't,you're paying money to pay a bit less money at the most expensive storefront out there. You pay 10 pounds to get a 10 pound discount on top of the actual price of whatever you're buying, you still end up giving GW extra money on top of the subscription. I could just...not pay 10 pounds for the 2 months sub and spend that 10 pounds directly with a store to get what I want. It's a small bonus if you already think the sub is worth a damn, if you don't you gain nothing from it.
   
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I used my previous “spend X, get a voucher” voucher to get £10 off the Delaque Champions set. Brought the cash price down to £16, and I still qualified for free shipping.

So, that was pretty welcome.

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 Ghaz wrote:
Everyone could use another painting handle (at least I know that I could use a few more)...


I’ve got 5 normal ones and a large model one. Sometimes I think I could use another though.

Can’t paint without them now. So nice.

   
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Todays upload was a really good Angels of Death episode. Some good character development, finally see who is pulling the strings on the enemy side, and great action.

Spoiler:
Mephiston! Pretty cool scene, but his hair was weird.




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Agree with you about the hair.
It did seem to let down an otherwise awesome scene.

Really liked the frenetic action and cutaways of the battle towards the end.

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 Ghaz wrote:
Everyone could use another painting handle (at least I know that I could use a few more)...


I’ve got seven of the small and one of the large… Could probably use a couple more larges.

 
   
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Anyone else having problems with the tv app. They took my subscription money yesterday but now its saying my subscription is expired
   
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I knew the Chaplain was toast the moment the episode started. Sad no space battle in this one.

Yeah so we're, what, four episodes into Angels of Death and whilst it is fun and certainly impressive for a one-man band (minus voice-acting and music, both of which are stellar), this is not the type of professional animation one puts as their first foot forward to entice people to buy into yet another streaming service in a world crowded with unnecessary streaming services. And the sound design is anaemic at best. The bolters sound more powerful than the Heavy Bolter. The chainsword sounded like it was behind a wall.

I think it's loads of fun, but it's still... I haven't got a better word right now... amateurish.

"Bet you couldn't do any better!!!"
"It's not a streaming service!"

Yeah I've seen what else they're offering. It doesn't help the argument.

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well, that's partly because the quality is a massive mishmash.

The art and the modelling are pretty damn solid. But the sound design is quite a mess and the writing is bland and fairly bad.
   
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I did feel that the battle felt very quiet. Not in a "here's some backing music and low volume" kind of quiet to build atmosphere but more in a "we don't have enough/the right sounds" kind of quiet.

Which is odd, the combat last time was solid, if floaty in artistic/sculpting style; still pretty solid. This time it felt very hollow like they'd set the scene up with way too much for them to cover and then just didn't sort of cover it. They could have gone for some music or flashbacks or a few other tricks to cover that shortfall; indeed it almost feels like that's what they were going to do and then didn't

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I've been really enjoying the battle reports, much clearer as to what is going on then a lot of the ones on YouTube. Normally they are either excruciatingly long and every roll is dissected to the nth degree or they are blink and you miss it and a narrative never builds. The WH+ ones seem to strike a nice balance with enough human interaction not to seem stale but a nice clear presentation to the game itself.

I do think that GW were silly to promote this so heavily as a streaming service initially. As a multimedia subscription for £50 a year it's really pretty good but as a streaming service it's lacking right now. That initial push as a pure streaming service has understandably become the predominate perception of the service.
   
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Feels like an audio drama with visuals, but without credits
   
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If they ever shout out at each other "PEW PEW!" during a BR, I will instantly subscribe.
   
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I'm not opposed to marines dying, quite the opposite given the odds. But I feel like in the recent episode they all died in stupid ways. I'd expect more of a slog where smaller injuries build up or preoccupation with one foe leads to being struck down by another. Not 'ima stick mah hed in dis hole even tho we had enhanced visuals thru our helmets two episodes ago, ahh mah head's off am ded.'

Though the episode did a (perhaps unintentional?) excellent contrast between the charisma-8 pep talk of Mephy and the charisma-18 GSC one.

Tallonian4th wrote:
I've been really enjoying the battle reports, much clearer as to what is going on then a lot of the ones on YouTube. Normally they are either excruciatingly long and every roll is dissected to the nth degree or they are blink and you miss it and a narrative never builds. The WH+ ones seem to strike a nice balance with enough human interaction not to seem stale but a nice clear presentation to the game itself.

I do think that GW were silly to promote this so heavily as a streaming service initially. As a multimedia subscription for £50 a year it's really pretty good but as a streaming service it's lacking right now. That initial push as a pure streaming service has understandably become the predominate perception of the service.
Good points here, and well put.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I knew the Chaplain was toast the moment the episode started. Sad no space battle in this one.

Yeah so we're, what, four episodes into Angels of Death and whilst it is fun and certainly impressive for a one-man band (minus voice-acting and music, both of which are stellar), this is not the type of professional animation one puts as their first foot forward to entice people to buy into yet another streaming service in a world crowded with unnecessary streaming services. And the sound design is anaemic at best. The bolters sound more powerful than the Heavy Bolter. The chainsword sounded like it was behind a wall.

I think it's loads of fun, but it's still... I haven't got a better word right now... amateurish.

"Bet you couldn't do any better!!!"
"It's not a streaming service!"

Yeah I've seen what else they're offering. It doesn't help the argument.


Spoilers?
   
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a) they can't really offer 20% on webstore items(their own discount they get from GW is nearly zero on those. Were they offer 20% discount on those they would pay more to GW than they get from you.)

Retailers actually can give a 20% discount for gw webstore items, but they will be earning just a few %. They can give a reasonable 10%, though

   
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Apologies if this has already been covered, but is there a set time when the new episodes go up on a Wednesday?

I've just watched them in the evening so far, but happen to be off work today, and was a bit confused/annoyed that today's are not available yet...

 
   
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Around midday, I think?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Scratch that….it’s past midday and still no new upload!

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I just refreshed and the new episodes are there now. So maybe its 1pm not midday

 
   
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Just had a survey monkey from GW regarding W+

Fairly limited feedback options, but then I can only answer the lead in questions one way, so there may be more.

I requested remounting of classic battle reports, mentioned Andy C and Jervis as a dream team (I appreciate at least one is retired!)

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