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Because they make a METRIC ton more money off marines than everything else put together.

THats why.

angelshade00 wrote:Still, doesn't that annoy anyone else? Marine-non marine? There are like several hundred chapters in the codex astartes, why not make a separate codex for each of those, and once a year remember that there are other races out there in the cosmos except for the SM. Yeah, that'd be good.

Sorry for the ranting, everyone...

Keep in mind that Dark Eldar players have been literally starved for ( a decade was it? ) before the recent total update.
GW need to release a new update that isnt as highly anticipated.

I cant think of a proper sentence to convey what i want to say , but the closest example is,
If someone have been in starvation mode for too long , introducing too much food for them to eat can harm or even kill the person.

Samething as the customers, our $ and enthusiasm cant really hold up back to back 2 consecutive armies of that magnitude ( well it can, but not without effecting the sale if the case ends up to be either or ).
Not only that , it might effect the Dark Eldar's burst of sales momentum if Necron is in the soon visible horizon. Its better if the 2 xeno armies have a bit of gap in their release , let the customers dry out their wallet completely on Dark Eldar first , replenish $, and dry them again with Necrons. This coincides with GW not wanting to reveal their new releases ahead of time .

Scarey Nerd wrote: If that were true, then releasing GK was a BIG mistake... They were a highly anticipated army and, forgive me if I'm wrong, a lot of people have bought them. A lot. Also, are GW under the impression that every customer will try and buy every army? This isn't Pokémon (Though if they become a new army, I'm in.), we don't try and collect 'em all.

Ah i knew i missed something. No i dont think GK is enough to be a threat to DE sales , mainly because many of warhammer players already have MEQ army of some sort.
Now if its say , Eldar for example in GK's place , that would be a threat.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Because they make an ASS ton more money off marines than everything else put together.

THats why.

That may be due to the fact that 6/16 codexes are Marines, or 7/16 if you count chaos space marines. If they expanded on the other armies, then they'd make money off the other armies due to their prevalence. However, just about every GW business plan seems to be a "Get-rich-quick scheme", so this will not happen.

LunaHound wrote:Not only that , it might effect the Dark Eldar's burst of sales momentum if Necron is in the soon visible horizon. Its better if the 2 xeno armies have a bit of gap in their release, let the customers dry out their wallet completely on Dark Eldar first , replenish $, and dry them again with Necrons. This coincides with GW not wanting to reveal their new releases ahead of time.

If that were true, then releasing GK was a BIG mistake... They were a highly anticipated army and, forgive me if I'm wrong, a lot of people have bought them. A lot. Also, are GW under the impression that every customer will try and buy every army? This isn't Pokémon (Though if they become a new army, I'm in.), we don't try and collect 'em all.

LoL, GW have "stole" £700 releasing GK and probably will "steal" the same amount when they release SoB and probably £250 on necrons since I already have some LOL.

BUT I do actully think SoB might get released before necron since hair was one of the big problems on the SoB and they fix it on the DE so SoB should be released soon because they have planned a release for them for ages.

That could also be said the same for the Necrons.

But necrons are gonna be updated soon for sure because their models are nearly all gone. meaning GW is either getting rid of it or more likely changing and giving the necrons a complete overhaul.

Scarey - not really. 40k has always had the majority of sales be space marines, even before there were so many different books for them.

It's the same as Empire and O&G for fantasy - combined they outsell everything else in the range, despite not having the most competitive books for a good 2 editions now.

Scarey Nerd wrote:That may be due to the fact that 6/16 codexes are Marines, or 7/16 if you count chaos space marines. If they expanded on the other armies, then they'd make money off the other armies due to their prevalence. However, just about every GW business plan seems to be a "Get-rich-quick scheme", so this will not happen.

So we have about 7/16 "Marine" codexes, so why not make Necrons the 8th, and guarantee it will come out? We'll call them Space Ma-Necrons. The basic troops can be Space Marines, just with Necron heads.

Except that early on you had to convert most of your chaos models from regular marines. Artificially inflates the sales when you don't release models for an army that force you to convert those of another.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Assuming the marine - non-marine pattern continues, the next race should be Xenos - meaning Necrons or possibly Tau Empire.

Well if it were Tau that would mean they got 3 books before the Necrons got their fist update

JUSTICE! I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!

LunaHound wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:Still, doesn't that annoy anyone else? Marine-non marine? There are like several hundred chapters in the codex astartes, why not make a separate codex for each of those, and once a year remember that there are other races out there in the cosmos except for the SM. Yeah, that'd be good.

Sorry for the ranting, everyone...

Keep in mind that Dark Eldar players have been literally starved for ( a decade was it? ) before the recent total update.
GW need to release a new update that isnt as highly anticipated.

I cant think of a proper sentence to convey what i want to say , but the closest example is,
If someone have been in starvation mode for too long , introducing too much food for them to eat can harm or even kill the person.

Samething as the customers, our $ and enthusiasm cant really hold up back to back 2 consecutive armies of that magnitude ( well it can, but not without effecting the sale if the case ends up to be either or ).
Not only that , it might effect the Dark Eldar's burst of sales momentum if Necron is in the soon visible horizon. Its better if the 2 xeno armies have a bit of gap in their release , let the customers dry out their wallet completely on Dark Eldar first , replenish $, and dry them again with Necrons. This coincides with GW not wanting to reveal their new releases ahead of time .

Your example is a good one, but still I find that you have not taken under consideration a couple of facts.
1. Necron players have also been totally starved for close to a decade as well. Since 2002 or 03 was it? Can't remember correctly. Plus their current codex is not exactly what you would call competitive...
2. Your thought of $ and enthusiasm not being able to withstand 2 armies one after the other, pretty much suggests that players are expected to actually buy both armies. Which most people would not. I won't at least. Correct me if I misunderstood.
3. And last, following on your example on starvation, seeing it from the marine players perspective, wouldn't codex after codex of marine and marine allied armies have the opposite result? You could say that marine players would become overweight. I know marines sell like crazy and I can understand that, but if I had a marine army, say BA, and there was a new codex like GK coming out, and after a while SoB and then later something else, still I would not have the $, time or enthusiasm to actually get into everything. And I don't think any other player would anyway.
In general, I understand your point, but think this: if GW held a general balance and did not leave some armies 8-10 years behind (DE, Necrons and who knows what else) there would not be the problem of starvation you mentioned above. I believe sales would run smoothly and both GW and players would be happy.

cyberscape7 wrote: JUSTICE! I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!

you picked the wrong game to play then
Based on my experience, unless you play empire your sol. Half the codexes out are empire.

kenzosan wrote:you picked the wrong game to play then
Based on my experience, unless you play empire your sol. Half the codexes out are empire.

I know. It was bullsquig that we got Codex: Nuln, Codex: Averland and Codex: Middenheim before the Dark Eldar got an update.

I've always wanted a Necron army. Had one in Second Edition, and I'm really feeling the pull to start them again now that they're primed to get a new 'dex. May snag some Battle Forces while the gettin's good.

Maybe bad news from Warseer:

BramGaunt wrote:Well, I got some news, no new rumours though, and a bit sad. Apperantly it's neither August nor September. Summer's booked for fantasy appearantly. I still have Necrons for the next Codex, though, which would put sisters to early 2012 in my books. But as they have not been that dependably (to my own disappointment), well.. ah, darn.

CSE wrote:Really?? that's a shock As far as I am aware, Its still set for Aug for the Metal Undead

This one is the hardest. One of my better sources told me directly "No Codex til Fall at the earliest. Possibly no 40k at all. They really want to push Warhammer back to the top. I don't say it cannot happen, I only rely info I get. I know I got peoples hopes up quiet a bit, and I am sorry for that, but I didn't want to keep it back until I got fingers pointed at me when we definatly know what august will be. I would be more then happy if you were right, CSE.

Giving customers more time to digest the DE 2nd wave? :3

SkaerKrow wrote:

kenzosan wrote:you picked the wrong game to play then
Based on my experience, unless you play empire your sol. Half the codexes out are empire.

I know. It was bullsquig that we got Codex: Nuln, Codex: Averland and Codex: Middenheim before the Dark Eldar got an update.

I've always wanted a Necron army. Had one in Second Edition, and I'm really feeling the pull to start them again now that they're primed to get a new 'dex. May snag some Battle Forces while the gettin's good.

i wanted sob army for awhile. my friend wanted necrons. i lucked out and fell in love with blood angels via the books and got a marine army. my third army is eldar and i am hoping for an update but it isnt needed at all. to require a need i feel there has to be 2 things. either you can not make multiple armies (ie footdar/mechdar), you have to have variety otherwise you sell alot less models, or you got so nerfed that almost everyone put that army on the shelf.

kenzosan wrote:


i wanted sob army for awhile. my friend wanted necrons. i lucked out and fell in love with blood angels via the books and got a marine army. my third army is eldar and i am hoping for an update but it isnt needed at all. to require a need i feel there has to be 2 things. either you can not make multiple armies (ie footdar/mechdar), you have to have variety otherwise you sell alot less models, or you got so nerfed that almost everyone put that army on the shelf.

So you got a Necron Allies army?

Anvildude wrote:

kenzosan wrote:


i wanted sob army for awhile. my friend wanted necrons. i lucked out and fell in love with blood angels via the books and got a marine army. my third army is eldar and i am hoping for an update but it isnt needed at all. to require a need i feel there has to be 2 things. either you can not make multiple armies (ie footdar/mechdar), you have to have variety otherwise you sell alot less models, or you got so nerfed that almost everyone put that army on the shelf.

So you got a Necron Allies army?

haha. idk whats gonna happen with the fluff, its been funny reading 60 pages speculating wildly about it

well screw it then. im so sick of the way GW has disregarded this great army for the last 9 years. not to beat a dead horse but... ONLY 1 NEW MODEL IN ALMOST 10 YEARS!!! its pathetic. whats worse is i think im going to hate the new rules and fluff anyway. hopefully i will be given the "option" to play them in thier current for. oh well i guess, this will give me a chance to write more of my own fluff in my "Awakening" story based on the current/only codex necron players will ever see. check it out you all get a chance.

lowmanjason wrote:well screw it then. im so sick of the way GW has disregarded this great army for the last 9 years. not to beat a dead horse but... ONLY 1 NEW MODEL IN ALMOST 10 YEARS!!! its pathetic. whats worse is i think im going to hate the new rules and fluff anyway. hopefully i will be given the "option" to play them in thier current for. oh well i guess, this will give me a chance to write more of my own fluff in my "Awakening" story based on the current/only codex necron players will ever see. check it out you all get a chance.

as to the model/codex thing, if it aint broke. i mean my friend won 7 out of 10 matches with necrons in 4th. 5th he only played em twice

as to the fluff, thats pretty much how i feel.

Kroothawk wrote:Maybe bad news from Warseer:

BramGaunt wrote:One of my better sources told me directly "No Codex til Fall at the earliest. Possibly no 40k at all...

I guess GW wants Warpath to succeed as much just as Mantic does, so they're clearing their schedule to make sure there aren't any distractions for the sci-fi fans.

My gut tells me that we'll see Necrons this year (or another 40k Codex, if Necrons get bumped). I know that's not scientific, but as of late I've learned to heed my own gut feelings. Too much money is left on the table by ignoring 40k for half a year, and while Second Waves do generate interest, nothing invigorates a game like a new Codex/Army book release.

As for the change to the Necron flavor text, I don't see any obstacle standing in the way of those that want to play their Necrons as a pre-revolt army. Honestly, when I first heard that they were deposing the C'Tan I too was disappointed, because I've always found the C'Tan to be far, far more interesting than the Chaos Gods. But on the other hand, the C'Tan aren't completely gone (just fragmented). Beyond that, the Necrons will have done something that no other race in 40k has done; cast off the shackles of the cosmic force that enslaved them. They will still be an army of Undead Robots, and now they get the tagline "We killed our own gods. What chance do you have against us?"

So not August then? Oh well, gives me more time to save the pennies.

SkaerKrow wrote:They will still be an army of Undead Robots, and now they get the tagline "We killed our own gods. What chance do you have against us?"

Yes! Oooooh YEAH!

Praxiss wrote:So not August then? Oh well, gives me more time to save the pennies.

+1

Also, I just started warmachine (as many others seem to be doing), so I have that to tie me over now as well.

Praxiss wrote:So not August then? Oh well, gives me more time to save the pennies.

Nothing I've seen says that Necrons can't be August. We'll have to wait until the WD back page in July shows up.

Not amazingly fussed. i feel that the less excited i get, the less disappointed i'll be when WardFest hits the Necron universe.

I still have my growing IW army to tweak and expand.

Kevin949 wrote:

Praxiss wrote:So not August then? Oh well, gives me more time to save the pennies.

+1

Also, I just started warmachine (as many others seem to be doing), so I have that to tie me over now as well.

Yep pretty much the same boat here. It comes when it does and I'll be happy. For now, I've got Skorne to build and figure out.

Well, seeing as White Dwarf is releasing Sisters of Battle, guess Necrons get a back seat til at least October to November. I'd be a monkey's uncle if they get it by September.

Pretty sure you don't have any secret access to White Dwarf, Falkor. The whole "SoB in WD before Necrons" thing is just yet another rumor, no more true than any other rumor.

Darkjediben wrote:Pretty sure you don't have any secret access to White Dwarf, Falkor. The whole "SoB in WD before Necrons" thing is just yet another rumor, no more true than any other rumor.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/360/367867.page#2923411 says otherwise