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AresX8 wrote:

Darkjediben wrote:Pretty sure you don't have any secret access to White Dwarf, Falkor. The whole "SoB in WD before Necrons" thing is just yet another rumor, no more true than any other rumor.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/360/367867.page#2923411 says otherwise

That's exactly what I saw. should have posted that when I said it.

This is most.... disappointing. I guess I'll just stick with building my Malal/Malice worshipping CSM...

Yeah, my bad Falkor, I hadn't seen that, thought you were just kinda taking the other rumors into account as fact lol

Well GW gets none of my money for another few months. Just as good then, needed a change of pace from Warhammer.

When I decided to start 40k I immediately chose Necrons, before I learned about the rumors of an upcoming update. I get the feeling GW is doing all they can to stop me from starting that army... And frankly, they are doing an excellent job.
Simply put, totally disappointed. Going to stick with my Fantasy O&G at least there are no annoying Marines there getting updated every once in a while at the expense of all other armies. Honestly, doesn't that infuriate anyone else?

angelshade00 wrote:When I decided to start 40k I immediately chose Necrons, before I learned about the rumors of an upcoming update. I get the feeling GW is doing all they can to stop me from starting that army... And frankly, they are doing an excellent job.
Simply put, totally disappointed. Going to stick with my Fantasy O&G at least there are no annoying Marines there getting updated every once in a while at the expense of all other armies. Honestly, doesn't that infuriate anyone else?

ummmm.........yeah.

Praxiss wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:When I decided to start 40k I immediately chose Necrons, before I learned about the rumors of an upcoming update. I get the feeling GW is doing all they can to stop me from starting that army... And frankly, they are doing an excellent job.
Simply put, totally disappointed. Going to stick with my Fantasy O&G at least there are no annoying Marines there getting updated every once in a while at the expense of all other armies. Honestly, doesn't that infuriate anyone else?

ummmm.........yeah.

Good to know. And what angers me the most, is the certainty that, even if Necrons get released in November, the next codex will again be some Marine chapter or something...

I dont think so.. Most Marines have a fairly new codex, so..

Codex: ultramahriinz!

angelshade00 wrote:Good to know. And what angers me the most, is the certainty that, even if Necrons get released in November, the next codex will again be some Marine chapter or something...

I think it's unlikely we'll see another Marine chapter in 5th edition. By my calculations, in order to fit in the last two/three 3rd edition codecies and the remaining major books* before 6th edition, the release schedule should be:

Necrons, Sisters, Tau, Eldar, Orks, Chaos SM - with Eldar and Sisters taking the place of a MEQ army ***EDIT: I now know Tau are 4th ed, not 3rd***

But if Sisters are getting done next with a WD codex, then it messes the whole thing up (unless GW breaks the pattern they have shown so far) as Eldar would have to follow Necrons and I think that's unlikely as there are no rumours to support it (although it would fit the fluff!). An alternative would therefore be:

Necrons, Eldar, Tau, Chaos SM, Orks

Either way this would probably push 6th edition into 2013 as there just isn't the time to get 4 codecies and a new ruleset in 2012 imo so I'm still open minded and expecting some more hi-jinx from GW

* IMO the major armies are: SM, IG, Tyranids, Eldar, Orks, Chaos SM

Not sure i can afford to have Necrons and CSM both get new armies in the same year.

/gulp.

Don't worry, I'm Australian, if I ever was to buy GW again, I have to choose between eating food and a box of miniatures.

Come to think of it, my missus and I live on $100 a week in food.

A monolith for example, is $110. So 2 adults eat quite nice food for less than a monolith.

12 warriors is $55. So a full 20 man squad costs more than 2 adults eat in a week.

The two of us are on quite decent pay, and even I balk at paying that.

Seriously?!?! A Monolith costs you £71?!?!


Is that through GW or through anywhere?

When I first went to start 40k, I had no idea what army to pick. My friends had already picked Space marines and Orks, and so I had decided not to pick either army. I was at my flgs, looking through all the armies, when I happened to pick up a box of Necron Warriors. A man walked behind me and asked if I played 40k. I said I was thinking about starting and didn't know which army to pick. The man replied, "Necrons is a mans game. Are you a man?" At that moment I picked up Necrons and have been collecting for over a year.

Now, in the future, I realized I picked an army that is in serious need of a new codex and new models, but until the day that happens, I'm okay knowing I play a man's game.

We can really only get it through GW now, independent stockists still have to buy from AUS GW, so usually its about 10% off.

With all UK online retailers now banned, models are more expensive than bills.

Hell I'm on $80k a year, my missus is on $40k a year, and they priced me out of the hobby. I walked past GW Chermside yesterday, and it was empty, bar the one staff member on duty.

Meh, this isnt a price rant thread, so instead, I'm in the process of making my own necrons, out of wire, kneadite, and such. When I make a few, I will cast them, and play with them.

Lucky we dont have a new codex, cos they cost $50 here, and Ive got the EXACT same codex, bought day of release, for $25 (I think, it was a long time ago).

Grim.Badger wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:Good to know. And what angers me the most, is the certainty that, even if Necrons get released in November, the next codex will again be some Marine chapter or something...

I think it's unlikely we'll see another Marine chapter in 5th edition. By my calculations, in order to fit in the last two/three 3rd edition codecies and the remaining major books* before 6th edition, the release schedule should be:

Necrons, Sisters, Tau, Eldar, Orks, Chaos SM - with Eldar and Sisters taking the place of a MEQ army

But if Sisters are getting done next with a WD codex, then it messes the whole thing up (unless GW breaks the pattern they have shown so far) as Eldar would have to follow Necrons and I think that's unlikely as there are no rumours to support it (although it would fit the fluff!). An alternative would therefore be:

Necrons, Eldar, Tau, Chaos SM, Orks

Either way this would probably push 6th edition into 2013 as there just isn't the time to get 4 codecies and a new ruleset in 2012 imo so I'm still open minded and expecting some more hi-jinx from GW

* IMO the major armies are: SM, IG, Tyranids, Eldar, Orks, Chaos SM

Ummm, I'm pretty sure the only codexs left for 5th edition are crons and sob. After necrons come out, then they'll release 6th edition, nerfing necrons yet again, and following that the rest of the ocdex's will update(after space marines of course)

cyberscape7 wrote:Ummm, I'm pretty sure the only codexs left for 5th edition are crons and sob. After necrons come out, then they'll release 6th edition, nerfing necrons yet again, and following that the rest of the ocdex's will update(after space marines of course)

****Edit: Just checked and Tau are indeed 4th ed so sorry for the note below****
Tau are running with a 3rd edition codex, so it would be really weird to not update them as it would leave them as the only 3rd ed codex not updated in 5th*. Eldar, Orks and CSM are all 4th edition codecies and major armies so I can't see them not getting done in 5th edition unless they're the first codecies in 6th (v.doubtfull). If GW don't do a new CSM codex, a lot of people will be annoyed to say the least as it's possibly the most dull book out there plus loads of their models are overdue an update. Although Eldar and Orks don't need new codecies, neither did 'Nids so I see no reason to think they wont get one in 5th - depends on whether GW see them as major armies like I do.

But like I said, I wouldn't be suprised if we see some shenanigans of some sort and the timescales would fit better if one or two of the armies I think will be done for 5th are dropped until 6th. If it was: Sister WD, Necrons and CSM before 6th, that would fit really well.

* SW, BA, DE and GK were all on 3rd edition codecies if you ignore the BA pdf

And don't forget Dark Angels and Black Templars.

An FAQ update does not a 5th edition codex make.....at all!

Steelmage99 wrote:And don't forget Dark Angels and Black Templars.

An FAQ update does not a 5th edition codex make.....at all!

Ya, but at least they got even that!

Steelmage99 wrote:And don't forget Dark Angels and Black Templars.

An FAQ update does not a 5th edition codex make.....at all!

They've got 4th ed codecies and are minor armies, so I doubt they'll get updated until 6th - same with Chaos Daemons. Plus BA, SW, DE, GK and Necrons will probably not get an update in 6th IMO

Tau Empire is 4th edition
Eldar is 4th edition
CSM is 4th edition
Orks are TECHNICALLY 4th edition, as are Daemons, however BOTH were written for 5th edition rules.

BT and DA are 4th, but I HIGHLY doubt they will get a 5th edition release - too niche

Grim.Badger wrote:But like I said, I wouldn't be suprised if we see some shenanigans of some sort and the timescales would fit better if one or two of the armies I think will be done for 5th are dropped until 6th. If it was: Sister WD, Necrons, Tau and CSM before 6th, that would fit really well.

GW's promise a while back was that they would update all 3rd ed. codices before the end of 5th. I very much doubt we'll see any 4th ed codices get updates before 6th launches (keep in mind that's likely, what, 15 months away, tops?). It looks like they're clearing the decks to give them time to work on 6th. So I suspect Necrons will be the last full 5th ed codex, and that we'll see a lot of WFB over the next year along with some 40K 2nd/3rd waves to fill out the schedule. I also figure Necrons will have a 6th ed-friendly codex. FYI, Tau Empire is a 4th ed codex, so no broken promises there.

Somewhat off-topic, but I think CSMs will almost certainly be one of the big tentpole releases in 6th. Low hanging fruit...underachieving sales...easily put into a starter box...nothing not to like there. Eldar could also be a big one. My gut says no new Tyranid codex for quite a while.

The gap between 4th and 5th edition was only 4 years, but the gap between 3rd and 4th was 6 years, and between 2nd and 3rd was 5 years. Why is everybody so gosh darn certain that 6th edition is ABSOLUTELY coming out in 2012? It's not like 5th has any glaring rules deficiencies that need to be addressed ASAP, and GW has put the kibosh on the advanced announcements and rumor mills. It bugs me that everyone sort of takes for granted that those rumors are 100% true.

cyberscape7 wrote:
Ummm, I'm pretty sure the only codexs left for 5th edition are crons and sob. After necrons come out, then they'll release 6th edition, nerfing necrons yet again, and following that the rest of the ocdex's will update(after space marines of course)

That's what I'm afraid of...

Darkjediben wrote: Why is everybody so gosh darn certain that 6th edition is ABSOLUTELY coming out in 2012? It's not like 5th has any glaring rules deficiencies that need to be addressed ASAP, and GW has put the kibosh on the advanced announcements and rumor mills.

Because, the new codices might make some army be more powerful than the mighty MAHREENZ! and GW can't have that...so they'll get to 6th edition quickly to rectify the mistake...

nosferatu1001 wrote:Tau Empire is 4th edition
Eldar is 4th edition
CSM is 4th edition
Orks are TECHNICALLY 4th edition, as are Daemons, however BOTH were written for 5th edition rules.

BT and DA are 4th, but I HIGHLY doubt they will get a 5th edition release - too niche

I believe CSM are 5th, actually.

Keatonic wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Tau Empire is 4th edition
Eldar is 4th edition
CSM is 4th edition
Orks are TECHNICALLY 4th edition, as are Daemons, however BOTH were written for 5th edition rules.

BT and DA are 4th, but I HIGHLY doubt they will get a 5th edition release - too niche

I believe CSM are 5th, actually.

Nope, 4th. Same boat as DA and some other codices when under Jervis Law of giving an army bare minimum in options for easier style of play. One does not understand the Jervis Law, it just is.

angelshade00 wrote:
Because, the new codices might make some army be more powerful than the mighty MAHREENZ! and GW can't have that...so they'll get to 6th edition quickly to rectify the mistake...

Marines aren't terribly powerful. They're very much middle of the road.

Kurgash wrote:

Keatonic wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Tau Empire is 4th edition
Eldar is 4th edition
CSM is 4th edition
Orks are TECHNICALLY 4th edition, as are Daemons, however BOTH were written for 5th edition rules.

BT and DA are 4th, but I HIGHLY doubt they will get a 5th edition release - too niche

I believe CSM are 5th, actually.

Nope, 4th. Same boat as DA and some other codices when under Jervis Law of giving an army bare minimum in options for easier style of play. One does not understand the Jervis Law, it just is.

Hmm. Weird. I could've sworn it was 5th... But yeah, you're right. I just checked the Wikipedia article on the release dates. September 2007.

Is it just me, or is anyone else a little peeved that after all the rumours that have been discussed on this thread, dating back to several months ago, sisters are just popping up out of the blue?
I mean, it may be a WD codex, but its still a codex!#

angelshade00 wrote:

cyberscape7 wrote:
Ummm, I'm pretty sure the only codexs left for 5th edition are crons and sob. After necrons come out, then they'll release 6th edition, nerfing necrons yet again, and following that the rest of the ocdex's will update(after space marines of course)

That's what I'm afraid of...

Darkjediben wrote: Why is everybody so gosh darn certain that 6th edition is ABSOLUTELY coming out in 2012? It's not like 5th has any glaring rules deficiencies that need to be addressed ASAP, and GW has put the kibosh on the advanced announcements and rumor mills.

Because, the new codices might make some army be more powerful than the mighty MAHREENZ! and GW can't have that...so they'll get to 6th edition quickly to rectify the mistake...

-2 modifier in CC for every wound you lost by, marines don't take this negative and now don't take any no retreat wounds nor can they be sweeping advanced as normal. -3 per wound if lost against a marine. Fearless units still run from marines and can be sweeping advanced. Terminators now ignore the initiative penalty for power fists and can take assault and defensive grenades....


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Brother SRM wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:
Because, the new codices might make some army be more powerful than the mighty MAHREENZ! and GW can't have that...so they'll get to 6th edition quickly to rectify the mistake...

Marines aren't terribly powerful. They're very much middle of the road.

The issue is that marines have no weakness. Sure they don't necessarily have crazy powerful units (like a c'tan or something) but they just don't have a chink in their armor like other armies.

WEll, the chink tends to be Tactical marines. THeyre pretty poor.