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My 2 cents:

In order of Cool to Lame:

1.) Codex: Soccer Hooligans
2.) Codex: Zombie Robots
3.) Codex: Boring Marines
4.) Codex: Emo Marines
5.) Codex: Zergomorphs
6.) Codex: Ghostbusters
7.) Codex: Deep Dark Secret Marines
8.) Codex: Space Crusades
9.) Codex: Pink Squiggly Stuff 'n Horns
10.) Codex Space National Guard
11.) Codex: Space Commies
12.) Codex: SuperNuns
13.) Codex: Space Furries
14.) Codex: Space Twilight
15.) Codex: Space Elves
16.) Codex: Emo Space Elves with Cool Models

Soccer hooligans being CSM? Come on...

No, Orks being soccer hooligans, emo marines being CSM.

Emo marines are surely more Dark Angels.

Emo Marines are totally CSM. Sitting in their room crying that their daddy doesnt love them.

ChaosGalvatron wrote:Emo Marines are totally CSM. Sitting in their room crying that their daddy doesnt love them.

Unfortunately, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THEM LIFE IS PAIN.

Their pain is crawling in their skin, from a wound that cannot heal.

Their problem is that they had a really bad breakup 10,000 years ago. but due to the Eye of terror it feels like only yesterday.
So they are been all stalky to the imperium ("what are you doing? have you met someone else? do you really think guilliman is good enough for you?") and they have this new relationship. but it is really abusive. And they say that Chaos will change. But how many times can they walk into a door?

Well, iv read the whole thread and I actually don't mind it. I just got back from work though and the thread is only an extra page. CMON PPL !!!

My 2 cents, Eldar better be near the top. Great fluff, great play style, great look. Not perfect but most codex's have issues. Eldar could use some character fixes and updated mini's.

Anyway, write more Melissia. Now. And make me pie.

So every single cookie cutter SM codex is still to go?

ChaosGalvatron wrote:So every single cookie cutter SM codex is still to go?

DA is next, and BT has already been done, but Vanilla, BA, and SW are somewhere up the list, yes.

oops. didnt notice the BT got covered already.
Maybe part of their problem is that so much of their fluff/rules have been integrated with the normal SM.
When they first came out they were a true Crusading chapter and felt special

ChaosGalvatron wrote:oops. didnt notice the BT got covered already.
Maybe part of their problem is that so much of their fluff/rules have been integrated with the normal SM.
When they first came out they were a true Crusading chapter and felt special

I kind of feel like they're the most "different" of the four "deviant" codices in the way they actually function on the tabletop.

With chapters like BA, SW, and DA, only very specific parts of the codex are radically different. They all still have Tactical Marines, Assault Marines, Rhinos, Razorbacks, Predators, Land Raiders, Land Speeders, Terminators, etc - and most of them work in very similar if not identical ways.

On the other hand, BT doesn't have Tactical Squads - they have combined squads of up to 10 power armored Marines and five Scouts. They don't have Veterans, they have Sword Brethren, whose Terminators can take more than one heavy weapon. They don't have Predators with interchangeable bits, they've got Predator Annihilators and Predator Destructors. They have very few of the normal HQ options, and a few all of their own. They have Vows.

Some of these are throwbacks to 4th edition, but that doesn't change the fact that that's how they are.

BT are, in my opinion, the Space Marine chapter with the most flavor.

One of the many reasons they're my favorite Marine codex.

Ouze wrote:My 2 cents:

In order of Cool to Lame:

1.) Codex: Soccer Hooligans
2.) Codex: Zombie Robots
3.) Codex: Boring Marines
4.) Codex: Emo Marines
5.) Codex: Zergomorphs
6.) Codex: Ghostbusters
7.) Codex: Deep Dark Secret Marines
8.) Codex: Space Crusades
9.) Codex: Pink Squiggly Stuff 'n Horns
10.) Codex Space National Guard
11.) Codex: Space Commies
12.) Codex: SuperNuns
13.) Codex: Space Furries
14.) Codex: Space Twilight
15.) Codex: Space Elves
16.) Codex: Emo Space Elves with Cool Models

At the very least I am providing a list which describes what I like about the armies, trying to focus on that instead of just the stupid memes.

I hate memes.

A midterm tomorrow, but I'll try to work on it after class during breaks in study.

SaintHazard wrote:

ChaosGalvatron wrote:oops. didnt notice the BT got covered already.
Maybe part of their problem is that so much of their fluff/rules have been integrated with the normal SM.
When they first came out they were a true Crusading chapter and felt special

I kind of feel like they're the most "different" of the four "deviant" codices in the way they actually function on the tabletop.

With chapters like BA, SW, and DA, only very specific parts of the codex are radically different. They all still have Tactical Marines, Assault Marines, Rhinos, Razorbacks, Predators, Land Raiders, Land Speeders, Terminators, etc - and most of them work in very similar if not identical ways.

On the other hand, BT doesn't have Tactical Squads - they have combined squads of up to 10 power armored Marines and five Scouts. They don't have Veterans, they have Sword Brethren, whose Terminators can take more than one heavy weapon. They don't have Predators with interchangeable bits, they've got Predator Annihilators and Predator Destructors. They have very few of the normal HQ options, and a few all of their own. They have Vows.

Some of these are throwbacks to 4th edition, but that doesn't change the fact that that's how they are.

BT are, in my opinion, the Space Marine chapter with the most flavor.

One of the many reasons they're my favorite Marine codex.

Fair enough. i only just got back into 40k. but i bought the BA codex and the SM codex and it seems like most of the special BT stuff has been absorbed by the normal SM's. Having said that i dont have the BT codex, so cant compare.
I liked BT they were the Teutonic Knights of 40k (in both color scheme and flavour)

SaintHazard wrote:
On the other hand, BT doesn't have Tactical Squads - they have combined squads of up to 10 power armored Marines and five Scouts.

Just a minor quibble.

They can take up to 10 scout armored marines if the take 10 power armored marines in their crusaider squads.

The scouts can't outnumber the power armored marines when you make the squad, and you can have 10 power armored marines per the entry in the codex.

For grins, I'll run a pair of 20 man squads and throw in a chaplain with 3 cenobyte servitors in one squad. Righteous Zealing 1d6+3" is fun.

Oh, cool. I misread the codex then, my bad. Thanks for the correction.

In any case, my next Marine army (if there IS a next Marine army) WILL be BT.

If I were to start a Marine army, it would probably be Grey Knights, but that depends on how their spring codex works out.

Are you ever going to rate a codex again?

Melissia wrote:If I were to start a Marine army, it would probably be Grey Knights, but that depends on how their spring codex works out.

Pew Pew...more codex mock up/ranking IMO.

And I was dissapointed that you simply ignored that creepy guys internet advances towards you on the previous page...

I think her ignoring him speaks volumes.

Melissia wrote:If I were to start a Marine army, it would probably be Grey Knights, but that depends on how their spring codex works out.

If they made them plastic, I'd be all over it like stink on a monkey.

I would just like to say that Tau are not Communists. After all, they have a Caste system.

It seems to me they operate more like the Feudal States of Warring Era Japan. When a Shogun defeated another Shogun, he would often try to coax the samurai under his enemy to join him. That's what the Tau remind me of.

I would just call the tau "asian", seeing they have influences from both India and Japan.

Yes. "Asian." That's a form of government.

CSM are getting a pretty raw deal ITT. Even the lame "BT are okay but not really" argument is more convincing, IMO.

Th3ee Legged Dog wrote:
Pew Pew...more codex mock up/ranking IMO.

And I was dissapointed that you simply ignored that creepy guys internet advances towards you on the previous page...

I laughed out loud at this.

WarWizard91 wrote:

Th3ee Legged Dog wrote:
Pew Pew...more codex mock up/ranking IMO.

And I was dissapointed that you simply ignored that creepy guys internet advances towards you on the previous page...

I laughed out loud at this.

Lol
i couldent help it sorry
I liked the Tau mainly because of there under dog position in 40k. for some reason i always end up playing the under dog guys.

Arschbombe wrote:

Gorskar.da.Lost wrote:I spot a mistake!

Canis is actually not, as people commonly believe, Latin for "wolf." It actually means "Dog." His name is Dog Wolfborn, people!...

Dogs are canis lupus familiaris. Wolves are canis lupus lupus or some other variant of canis lupus. So canis just means canine and includes all the canines: dogs, coyotes, wolves, etc. Essentially canis wolfborn = wolf.

Yes, but the Romans used it to refer specifically to dogs, as in domestic, not wolves.

Now you are talking about the scientific use of Latin for names of species and genera versus the actual Roman use of Latin.

Also there are three adjectives, canine (dog-like), lupine (wolf-like) and vulpine (fox-like).