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Time 2 Roll wrote:They look great. Makes me want to play DE even though fast-moving shooty armies are a terrible match for my playstyle.

cronos and talos are anything but fast and shooty.

Archonate wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Weakest model is the Cronos for me, just because the descripton in the book was a crawling insectoid type thing, but I suppose thats the downside of combining two kits, better that than nothing.

I agree. The Chronos was supposed to be a crawly insectoid robot, and smaller than the Talos... I guess they decided that's the direction they'll be taking Necrons though, and didn't want a unit looking too similar?

I just reread the entry for the Cronos and it doesn't actually say it crawls. It says it "resembles a giant biomechanical insect or spined parasite".

I think the problem is the little sketch they have, which sorta looks like a small version of the model, if it was stretched out and had bladed limbs instead of tentacles, but is probably just some doodle to fill up room on the page.

Foo wrote:

Archonate wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Weakest model is the Cronos for me, just because the descripton in the book was a crawling insectoid type thing, but I suppose thats the downside of combining two kits, better that than nothing.

I agree. The Chronos was supposed to be a crawly insectoid robot, and smaller than the Talos... I guess they decided that's the direction they'll be taking Necrons though, and didn't want a unit looking too similar?

I just reread the entry for the Cronos and it doesn't actually say it crawls. It says it "resembles a giant biomechanical insect or spined parasite".

I think the problem is the little sketch they have, which sorta looks like a small version of the model, if it was stretched out and had bladed limbs instead of tentacles, but is probably just some doodle to fill up room on the page.

I actually hate hat little drawing. I like the idea that Talos and Cronos look similar.


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i gotta say though, with these thigns being so fleshy
why dont they have the altered physice rule that starts them with a pain token...

I award one internet to the first person to Loot one of those fliers into a battlewagon!

Eric

I have to say I'm much more partial to the bat wings on scourges... And I am VERY impressed that GW considered that preference and provided accommodation! I was afraid I'd be forced to put up with feathered wings on my nice models. The feathered wings aren't bad, mind you... But bat wings seem so much more fitting for evil beings who live in the dark, imo.

Archonate wrote:I have to say I'm much more partial to the bat wings on scourges... And I am VERY impressed that GW considered that preference and provided accommodation! I was afraid I'd be forced to put up with feathered wings on my nice models. The feathered wings aren't bad, mind you... But bat wings seem so much more fitting for evil beings who live in the dark, imo.

I'll trade you my bat wings for your feathered wings.

Archonate wrote:I have to say I'm much more partial to the bat wings on scourges... And I am VERY impressed that GW considered that preference and provided accommodation! I was afraid I'd be forced to put up with feathered wings on my nice models. The feathered wings aren't bad, mind you... But bat wings seem so much more fitting for evil beings who live in the dark, imo.

The scourges were really made for you to buy 2 boxes so you have enough heavy weapons and so you can have one with bat wings and one with feather wings.

I use three voids (my proxies are fugly ) in my haemonculus list. I like them I grant they are fragile and a bit spendy, but they've more than made up for that in 'eep' factor against some of my local opponents

Ravagers are 'best' i grant you, but they don't really attact me as much as supersonic jetfighters and fighterbombers

*shrug* Each to their own. I save my competitive lists for tournaments anyway, and run what i please in friendly games

The new models look awesome. I'm going to have to sell the other kidney :(

Lord Scythican wrote:
This one is better:

Yeah that certainly takes the crown. I'd like to think that a conversion the other way might just take it back mind. If I get no takers may just have a go at this one myself just out of curiosity, and I don't play dark eldar.

I was looking for a pic from the classic film as the batplane swoops into the sky creating the batman sign using the moon but couldn't find a decent enough pic on the 'net.

Carlovonsexron wrote:Talos looks... Phyrexian...

Agreed. And I love it.


These models make me want to start DE, and I had 0 desire to do so before. This doesn't usually happen.

With all the extra bits the talos has you can convert your own hemmy and the razorwing may be released as two vehicles like the talos. The whole DE line is very cheap cause if you buy it on the warstore $36 is the most expecive priced DE model. I will be buying four boxes of scourges at $19 a box.

Platuan4th wrote:

Archonate wrote:I have to say I'm much more partial to the bat wings on scourges... And I am VERY impressed that GW considered that preference and provided accommodation! I was afraid I'd be forced to put up with feathered wings on my nice models. The feathered wings aren't bad, mind you... But bat wings seem so much more fitting for evil beings who live in the dark, imo.

I'll trade you my bat wings for your feathered wings.

It might be too son to say as we still haven't seen the Scourges sprues, but the box art show 3 feathered wings and 2 bat wings. If the box includes 5 wing sets for 5 bodies... that'll make the dealing harder. The sprue should have 3 of each to be fair.

There are at least 4 different sets of feather wings if you check all the pics carefully.

lord_blackfang wrote:There are at least 4 different sets of feather wings if you check all the pics carefully.

Hmm... I'm seeing 3 sets. The Squad leader set, the "more spread" set in the DL and Haywire Blaster guys and a "less spread" set in the Splinter Carbine and Heat Lance guys.

Erasoketa wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:There are at least 4 different sets of feather wings if you check all the pics carefully.

Hmm... I'm seeing 3 sets. The Squad leader set, the "more spread" set in the DL and Haywire Blaster guys and a "less spread" set in the Splinter Carbine and Heat Lance guys.

Same.

I am overall really happy with this release.

The Talos and Chronos both take the cake for coolest looking in my book. I'm a little disappointed that they were not packaged together but I probably wouldn't use the Chronos much anyway so it's something I can just avoid buying for now.

The Venom is meh, but I'm so happy that there is a venom model now that I'm preordering six of them.

Absolutely love the Scourges and must get at least four boxes, maybe more.

I have no need for the battleforce as I've already purchased more of everything in there than I will evr need but I wanted to comment on it. As far as Battleforces go, I think that the DE one has a really good mix of models that are actually usable than many others.

I think that so far GW has really knocked the entire DE line out of the ballpark. Both in sculpt and in timeliness of releases. DE really deserved it though, considering how long they sat in limbo.

biccat wrote:Apart from the Talos/Pain engine (almost a complete ripoff of Privateer Press), I love the models. The scourges are particularly nice.

BrassScorpion wrote:I can't believe it, the Scourges are somewhat reasonably priced. After some of the other recent new sets for other armies and price hikes on existing models, it's amazing.

$25 for 5 models is "somewhat reasonably priced"? I suppose compared to some of the latest releases for other armies, but that still seems pretty steep.

Are you ok? with math and etc? Because 15,50GBP is cheaper then even basic Assault marines, and at least 25% cheaper then all latest 5 man boxes for any SMurfs..

People, people, people. I'm not being nasty, I'm just putting this in bold in hopes that people see it.

Fret not, the Talos and Cronos are one set. Why they show them as two separate pages is beyond me, but they are indeed one combined set.

Models are gorgeous, but i liked more - cronos in DE book (some crawling insect)

augustus5 wrote:I am overall really happy with this release.

The Talos and Chronos both take the cake for coolest looking in my book. I'm a little disappointed that they were not packaged together but I probably wouldn't use the Chronos much anyway so it's something I can just avoid buying for now.

Wait. Wut?

The Fragile Breath wrote:People, people, people. I'm not being nasty, I'm just putting this in bold in hopes that people see it.

Fret not, the Talos and Cronos are one set. Why they show them as two separate pages is beyond me, but they are indeed one combined set.

I can't believe I wondered why the sprues were the same until I was told this.

I may just have to resort to a life of crime if it means I can have a Dark Eldar army. Damn I want to field an army of nothing but Talos and Cronos. Damn!

The new kits looks awesome. Especially like the Talos/Chronus and the feathered wings on the Scourges should be useful.

baron deathnyx wrote:With all the extra bits the talos has you can convert your own hemmy and the razorwing may be released as two vehicles like the talos. The whole DE line is very cheap cause if you buy it on the warstore $36 is the most expecive priced DE model. I will be buying four boxes of scourges at $19 a box.

FWIW, 25% off at Miniature Market & free shipping over $75!

The Fragile Breath wrote:People, people, people. I'm not being nasty, I'm just putting this in bold in hopes that people see it.

Fret not, the Talos and Cronos are one set. Why they show them as two separate pages is beyond me, but they are indeed one combined set.

Why they showed them as two separate pages?

Probably so people can see the Talos and Cronos in each setup.

warpcrafter wrote:I may just have to resort to a life of crime if it means I can have a Dark Eldar army. Damn I want to field an army of nothing but Talos and Cronos. Damn!

I've heard that certain jobs pay pretty good.

Exergy wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:[
Exactly: the Dark Eldar plastics seem to immune to the pricing of the rest of GW's lines; Grey Knight "jump infantry" are $33 for 5. The Scourges are the same price as Eldar Swooping Hawks, and the quality seems... higher, shall we say.

Space Marines are a bit bigger than DE though, guess there is more plastic involved or something

maybe its that hellions are so cheap, 16 points a pop and not really any upgrades. You are supposed to run a squad of 20 and if they were $33 for 5 no one would consider them unless they came int he battle force. Like reaver jetbikes....

I think you're pretty much on the money in your last sentence. I don't work for GW, nor do I actually know how they run their business, but it seems that their products are based partially on their in-game cost (roughly speaking). You could say with great certainty that most people will field less Terminators than regular marines. The production costs (designwork, molds, material, shipping, boxing, art etc) are probably in the same region, yet Terminators are almost 2,5 times more expensive than a regular marine. It's probably about wanting a similar return on investment on their various products, or in other words: "You'll be fielding more of the cheap ones than the expensive ones".

I'm very tempted to buy a kit or two just because they look so cool. Maybe I'll get my paws on a box of Hellions in the near future.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Dark_Eldar/DARK-ELDAR-RAVEN-FIGHTER.html

Don't have the Codex, I know this one isn't in it, but is it a decent stand in for either flyer?

The FW Raven Fighter is more styled for the old DE. It'll still make an OK stand-in for either flyer though.

Absolutely loving the Talos/Cronos however as someone edging towards a Haemonculi Coven themed army does anyone know if Wracks / Grotesques are getting their own models?(heard there was another release for June 24th).