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2015/01/22 22:06:21
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
Quick wiki search says the comic crossovers were -
Aliens vs. Predator vs. The Terminator
Painkiller Jane vs. Terminator
Painkiller Jane vs. Terminator: Time to Kill
RoboCop versus The Terminator
RoboCop vs. The Terminator
Superman vs. The Terminator: Death to the Future
Surprised at the lack of Batman or Judge Dredd crossovers.
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2015/01/22 22:09:42
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
Barzam wrote: Didn't Terminator cross over with both Aliens and Predator at some point(and probably Batman, Superman, and Judge Dredd as well)? I fully expect someone to homebrew crossover rules.
adamsouza wrote: The fluff appropriate Time Travel mechanic is every time it looks like the Resistance Player is about the win, you reset the game back to turn 1
Time isn't linear... its wibbily wobbly timey wimey. ^_^
2015/01/22 22:22:52
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
So, the most important question is who is sculpting the models and how do they look? Do they have the poor GW-esque proportions of most of Warlord's other figures?
Hi guys, thanks for your comments (well, most of them!). As Warren said, we are unfortunately bound by legal obligations about what we can and cannot show, and when. It is definitely not our choice, but it’s not something we can change.
Would I not want to show more stuff? Am I not very excited about the stuff we’re making and cannot wait to show it to the world? You bet I am! And I’m chomping at the bit to be allowed to do so… and we are putting as much pressure as we can on the giant corporations we are dealing with to be allowed to show more. Sadly, of course, this is an ‘ant vs boot’ kinda relationship, as Loki would put it… and we are the ant!
To ease the pain of people that have missed the live show, all I can do, until the time we are allowed to make the video public again, is to answer a few questions here…
Thanks for your cooperation… Oh, wait, wrong movie!
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Barzam wrote: Well, thanks to Crooked Dice, you can actually have a Terminator vs Timelords battle. How awesome would that be?
One-sided. For reference, see the premise of Genesis of the Daleks.
And unlike Arnie, when the Time Lords go back to stop Skynet happening, they do it right!
I shall have to check out this game, though.
As much as I love Doctor Who, he destroys ALL of the Daleks, and sometimes Cybermen, about once per season, and they still keep coming back. The only things that stay dead on Doctor Who are the Companions.
Also, I think a T800 would just shoot the Doctor in the face the first time he pointed a sonic screwdriver at it.
Terminators are comparable to Cybermen, and we know that ONE Dalek would be easily sufficient pest control for millions of Cybermen (such a funny scene).
Dr. Who defeats the Daleks, so transitively, the Terminators have zero chance against the Doctor.
Taarnak wrote: So, the most important question is who is sculpting the models and how do they look? Do they have the poor GW-esque proportions of most of Warlord's other figures?
Enquiring minds want to know...
~Eric
"River Horse is proud to announce that the Terminator Endoskeletons and the Resistance soldiers are going to be sculpted by veteran sculptor Bob Naismith and produced by renowned UK company RENEDRA LTD."
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2015/01/23 18:26:14
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
(wonder how much they've had to pay to guarantee production in time for the movie release)
Bob Naismith does some great stuff, but also some phoned in work (not sure whether its how much is paid or how interesting it is for him that makes the difference) so I'll have to see what the final results look like
2015/01/23 20:47:57
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
judgedoug wrote:
"River Horse is proud to announce that the Terminator Endoskeletons and the Resistance soldiers are going to be sculpted by veteran sculptor Bob Naismith and produced by renowned UK company RENEDRA LTD."
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Renendra is a big plus
(wonder how much they've had to pay to guarantee production in time for the movie release)
Bob Naismith does some great stuff, but also some phoned in work (not sure whether its how much is paid or how interesting it is for him that makes the difference) so I'll have to see what the final results look like
What a terrible, terrible decision. Well, it saves me money at least...
If they sell the rulebook separately you can always use the Copplestone terminators (either the originals sold by EM-4 or the newer ones sold by Copplestone Castings). Human forces should be pretty easy to source, whether you want rag tag civilians, military/paramilitary o a mix.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
2015/01/23 22:22:07
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
A lot of his sculpts are hit and miss, I would guess depending on the paycheck.
As for plastics, he sculpted RTB01 plastic mk6 beakie marines box set, the original plastic Warhammer skeletons (Skeleton Army box set), the plastic Advanced Heroquest models (heroes, skaven, men at arms)...
more recently, he sculpted the Mobile Infantry plastics for SST, which, while cast in a weird plastic, are pretty great (and a bit fiddly, lots of parts). And the Warrior Bugs, which I love. Also the Mantic plastic Orcs are personally my favorite orcs on the market.
I think some of his most recent work in metals would be Blackwater Gulch.
Automatically Appended Next Post: OH! He also sculpted all of the Gripping Beast plastics! Saxon Thegns, Dark Age Warriors, Vikings.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmm, also possibly the Fireforge plastics, too. Trying to confirm.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and of course the Mantic zombies and ghouls.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
2015/01/23 22:26:54
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
Those Gripping Beast minis are fantastic! Not sure about Blackwater Gulch though as I'm not familiar with that game, can anyone post some examples of his work from that?
CptJake wrote: If they sell the rulebook separately you can always use the Copplestone terminators (either the originals sold by EM-4 or the newer ones sold by Copplestone Castings). Human forces should be pretty easy to source, whether you want rag tag civilians, military/paramilitary o a mix.
And with the greatest of respect to those Copplestone terminators (i've owned about 30 of them), I think we can probably safely expect the sculpts for this game to be a fair improvement over those minis.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, yeah, now that I'm googling, he's probably the most prolific plastic contract sculptor for our hobby on the planet, wow. Even the old Combat Zone plastics from the 1990's and the Void 1.1 plastics are his.
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2015/01/23 22:47:28
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
Pacific wrote: Those Gripping Beast minis are fantastic! Not sure about Blackwater Gulch though as I'm not familiar with that game, can anyone post some examples of his work from that?
CptJake wrote: If they sell the rulebook separately you can always use the Copplestone terminators (either the originals sold by EM-4 or the newer ones sold by Copplestone Castings). Human forces should be pretty easy to source, whether you want rag tag civilians, military/paramilitary o a mix.
And with the greatest of respect to those Copplestone terminators (i've owned about 30 of them), I think we can probably safely expect the sculpts for this game to be a fair improvement over those minis.
I was replying to a guy who seems to dislike the Naismith as a sculptor, just offering alternatives.
I have some of the Blackwater Gulch figures, I like them. I also have some of the Gripping Beast plastics and like them a lot too.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
2015/01/23 23:25:12
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
Alright so Bob Naismith's known plastics sculpting experience includes (in rough order from oldest to newest)
Rogue Trader mk6 Marines, Squats, Imperial Guard, Orks
Warhammer skeleton army, Fantasy Regiments
Advanced Heroquest
Combat Zone infantry
Void 1.1 infantry
Starship Troopers Mobile Infantry and Arachnids
Mantic Orcs, Zombies, Ghouls, (maybe more?)
Victrix (several kits)
Gripping Beast Vikings, Saxons, Dark Age Warriors
Warlord Games (several kits)
Fireforge (some if not all)
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2015/01/23 23:26:24
Subject: Re:Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
cavatore said: On January 23, 2015
Hi, here goes:
1.In what form will the leader of the machines be in the terminators’ army? The humans have John Connor, so will there be a miniature of the leader of Skynet?
Unfortunately, the leader of Skynet is Skynet, which is AI software… which does not make a good model! There are gonna be big bad guys though, but some are secret I’m afraid…
2. Will there be the full range of terminator model types from all the movies or just Genisys and T1 and T2?
Just Genisys actually. That’s what we have the licence for. But most cool stuff is in there.
3. The T1000 can shapeshift, will that ability be in the game? Apart from creating knives and stabbing weapons, will they be able to disappear as the surface of the floor or become molten and enter through barred areas and holes in defenses?
They certainly have some entertaining deployment rules… and are sooo tough to kill…
4. Can you only play the game in the future war, or can you play it in 1980′s Los Angeles too?
Both. But the centre of the action is obviously the war against the machines – as humans without plasma weapons are not very well equipped to deal with terminators…
5. Will there be Arnie’s reprogrammed Terminator in the game?
There will be a ‘good’ Arnie, yes…
6. Can you win every battle by capturing a terminator, reprogramming it and sending back to the 1800′s and kill Charles Babbage, the “father” of the computer, and stop all possible creations of a future, homicidal artificial computer intelligence? Or, if you play as the machines, can you win by sending a terminator to kill Sarah Connor’s great, great, great, great, great grandparents?
Not exactly that, but you can send agents back in time to try to change the future (i.e. getting a re-roll…) and the other player can send his agents to kill yours (i.e. trying to stop you getting a re-roll)…
7. Can you create your own alternate timeline in the game?
Not literally, but I assume that you could in a campaign… or is it that you create an alternative timeline every time you play a scenario and the result is different from the ‘historical’?
8. Will there be special minis of Kyle Reese, Lance Henriksen’s cop, the police chief, Dr Silberman, and Bill Paxton as a punk?
The corresponding Genisys actors, of course, if the character appears in Genisys…
9. Will the miniatures be multi-part plastics which will allow for cool conversions (terminator skulls and arms on human bodies)?
Core troops are dry-fit hard multipart plastics produced by Renedra and sculpted by Bob Naismith.
Characters and other bits and bops are resin or metal, and sculpted by…
10. Will there lots of skulls; both human and terminator to litter the battlefield with?
Every terminator frame has two terminators and a ‘crawler’ – a terminator that had its legs blown off… crawlers can be used in the game, and spare ones can be turned into rather nice terrain!
Bob Naismith has done some good sculpts, even though I would not rank him as one of my favorites. He ceirtanly is old school.
One of the reasons that he was chosen is probably that he has a huge experience for sculpting for Renedras process, which probably speeds things up and makes everything go smoothly. A less experienced sculptor might need a lot more corrections and changes made to the sculpts to make them suitable for plastic production. With Bob Naismith, River Horse probably figures that they will get sculpt that works for plastic right away.
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2015/01/23 23:40:39
Subject: Terminator Genisys Miniature Game - Coming Summer 2015
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