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Dizzler is saying that Hive fleet Leviathan defeated the Ork Empires where they were held in stalemate...

Golden Sabres wrote:Dizzler is saying that Hive fleet Leviathan defeated the Ork Empires where they were held in stalemate...

Oh yeah, that was in Planetstrike. But that was one planet. That wasn't a comment on the Hive Fleets victory as a whole, in fact they are still very much tangled up in that mess.

Dats what I was tinkin!

Unreal Toast wrote:Eldar are the good guys and the good guyz always win !!!

But seriously....

Are there any good guys in 40k? Doesn't it all depends on what side of the gun you are standing on

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:Nids eat each other all the time, they fight each other constantly and break the losers down into biomass. This ensures only the strongest nids are surviving and to make sure they keep evolving, that much i know for sure.

What i am curious about though if it's known that all 3 tendrils follow the same hive mind? If they dont theres a good chance of a massive nid civil war once they collide. just speculation though.

I still don't buy this at all, there is only one Hive Mind that controls all the tyranids as the Synapse are an extension of this intelligence. Ok, I'll go along with that they might fight any tendril that has maybe lost its connection to the hive mind and that it will also absorb the wounded and infirm organisms in its ranks, but other Hive Fleets, no, sorry.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Both Male. Wraith constructs don't count right?

Indeed and nope, the Eldar always were a bit what, fruity?

One thing with the Eldar though, when they all die, they will form into Ynnead right? After that, what happens? (Besides telling Slaanesh to shut the up and sit in his corner)

Pilau Rice wrote:

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:Nids eat each other all the time, they fight each other constantly and break the losers down into biomass. This ensures only the strongest nids are surviving and to make sure they keep evolving, that much i know for sure.

What i am curious about though if it's known that all 3 tendrils follow the same hive mind? If they dont theres a good chance of a massive nid civil war once they collide. just speculation though.

I still don't buy this at all, there is only one Hive Mind that controls all the tyranids as the Synapse are an extension of this intelligence. Ok, I'll go along with that they might fight any tendril that has maybe lost its connection to the hive mind and that it will also absorb the wounded and infirm organisms in its ranks, but other Hive Fleets, no, sorry.

Dont buy what? That nids dont eat each other all the time? Because thats a line straight from the codex, the rest of it i was having fun speculating since i dont remember there being proof of only one Hive Mind for ALL tyranids.

I'm going to have to throw my hat to to the Orks here. The Eldar before the fall were the undisputed rulers of the galaxy (all fluff supports that), they put down the necron threat putting them into statsis and even they couldn't get rid of the green tide.

I don't think if they were at the height of their power they'd have much of a problem handling the nids. Hell one craftworld did hold out against a full hive fleet invasion, even though it is now a shadow of it's former self.

El-dred wrote:I'm going to have to throw my hat to to the Orks here. The Eldar before the fall were the undisputed rulers of the galaxy (all fluff supports that), they put down the necron threat putting them into statsis and even they couldn't get rid of the green tide.

I don't think if they were at the height of their power they'd have much of a problem handling the nids. Hell one craftworld did hold out against a full hive fleet invasion, even though it is now a shadow of it's former self.

Eldar didn't put Necrons in stasis,the Enslavers did it.
Necrons are last race standing,if everything fails(which I rather doubt) they can go to another galaxy.

More likely their c'tan stargods starve and die, and they go to sleep and become mindless drones as time goes on, new life starts up, and they're pushovers for that new life. Which is probably Orks.

If Necrons Phase Out breaks and no longer applies, Orks could make some sweet gear from living metal

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:If Necrons Phase Out breaks and no longer applies, Orks could make some sweet gear from living metal

Now THAT'S orky know-wots.

Melissia wrote:More likely their c'tan stargods starve and die, and they go to sleep and become mindless drones as time goes on, new life starts up, and they're pushovers for that new life. Which is probably Orks.

There are plenty of stars in the galaxy, I don't think they'd starve plus being around since the creation of the universe means they probably know what's what in the grim dark future of the 41st milennium.

I love orks. Although I think that if they survive everything else, they'd have no one to fight, except themselves. Most likely, ork civil war would break out and all orks die. the end.

El-dred wrote:I'm going to have to throw my hat to to the Orks here. The Eldar before the fall were the undisputed rulers of the galaxy (all fluff supports that), they put down the necron threat putting them into statsis and even they couldn't get rid of the green tide.

Actually, they could get rid of the Orks. In fact, I bet all Orks near the old empire would have been eradicated. Craftworld Biel-tan actually has a falcon variant, designed to sterilise Orks worlds, making it impossible for them to release spores.

A thing sbout tyranids:
Yes. They fight each other. This is done for two reasons:
1)To absorb the weaker's DNA.
2) to develop new tactics. As of the 5th edition codex, they do have tactical toughts.
Also, the point of the Tyrainds is they can take the same amount of resources in a planet in weeks that would take us millenia to do. Each planet can only produce a finite number of resources; the water you drink has been recycled over and over. The tyrainds just take the water, and instead of naturaly recycling it they recycle it...IN SPACE!
Pro: Speed. As mentioned, tyranids can quickly move from one planet to another, using a minimum amount of energy.
Con: Recycling process isn't as efficiant on board the hive ships.
Personally, I believe the Tyranids have worked out the easiest way to preform an action, like it could be easier for them to fight than it would be for us, using less resources to do so.

I have to go with Necrons. After nids eat everything and move on to the Dimension where the Jonas Brothers are good, and Dane Cook is funny, the Necrons will just wake up and do the robot for eternity.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I love orks. Although I think that if they survive everything else, they'd have no one to fight, except themselves. Most likely, ork civil war would break out and all orks die. the end.

Ork fight and wage full on war with each other ALL the time, do it to fight, to loot, and to stay sharp. Orks can eradicate other orks from a world, theres no desire to, in fact they wouldnt want to if fighting orks was all they had left.

Eldar Win!

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:
Dont buy what? That nids dont eat each other all the time? Because thats a line straight from the codex, the rest of it i was having fun speculating since i dont remember there being proof of only one Hive Mind for ALL tyranids.

Yeah, that they fight each other all the time - I don't agree with that. Maybe I am interpreting what you are saying wrong. I agree with the eating part though

About the Hive Mind - P6 Codex Tyranids

.. for each Hive Fleet is but a splinter of one greater assemblage, acting under the instructions of a single monstrous and unfathomable Intelligence - the Hive Mind ...

They are controlled by a single entity and are extensions of this. Creatures that are severed from the hive mind, sure, wounded creatures, I wouldn't call this fighting but making use of something redundant, sure. But actual fighting - I can't find any reference to this. Maybe I am missing this in the Codex.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again: 'Nids eat the Galaxy.

I agree. The nids devour everything on a world which would pose a problem for the orks.

Pilau Rice wrote:

NeedsMoreDakka wrote:
Dont buy what? That nids dont eat each other all the time? Because thats a line straight from the codex, the rest of it i was having fun speculating since i dont remember there being proof of only one Hive Mind for ALL tyranids.

Yeah, that they fight each other all the time - I don't agree with that. Maybe I am interpreting what you are saying wrong. I agree with the eating part though

About the Hive Mind - P6 Codex Tyranids

.. for each Hive Fleet is but a splinter of one greater assemblage, acting under the instructions of a single monstrous and unfathomable Intelligence - the Hive Mind ...

They are controlled by a single entity and are extensions of this. Creatures that are severed from the hive mind, sure, wounded creatures, I wouldn't call this fighting but making use of something redundant, sure. But actual fighting - I can't find any reference to this. Maybe I am missing this in the Codex.

Maybe last edition.

I voted tyranids they're almost infinite in number and can consume entire planets. Its only my opinion anyway

Orks DUH!


These threads pop up from time to time and its ALWAYS down to Orks and Nids. Kindda silly but hey, it happens.

Klawz wrote:Maybe last edition.

Sure it was like that then too, but he is referencing the current codex.

KingCracker wrote:


These threads pop up from time to time and its ALWAYS down to Orks and Nids. Kindda silly but hey, it happens.

We got necrons too.

Generally , people don't pay attention to the motivation of the contenders and assume orks, nids , necrons or any other suggested stay in this galaxy.
Nids = leave when its to lifeless. Won't stay for the 'last meal'.
Necrons = have no itnerest to kill the food of their Ctan completly, go to stasis to await repopulation.
Orks = have a good chance, but could be distracted from fighting outside this galaxy and leave too.

1hadhq wrote:
Orks = have a good chance, but could be distracted from fighting outside this galaxy and leave too.

Eh?

Emperors Faithful wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
Orks = have a good chance, but could be distracted from fighting outside this galaxy and leave too.

Eh?

Ya, That made no sense. Pretty Sure Orks aren't leaving the Galaxy anytime soon.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
Orks = have a good chance, but could be distracted from fighting outside this galaxy and leave too.

Eh?

Ya, That made no sense. Pretty Sure Orks aren't leaving the Galaxy anytime soon.

Orks are fungi. Fungi expand. If there are more orks somewhere else, and the fun to be had there is greater, why should orks stay?
Orks are as free from 'home sweet home' , as nids, necrons, eldar, etc as they go where they like.

There would still be plenty of other orks in the galaxy to krump.

I believe it says it the necron codex that the Nightbringer cultivated whole races in order to feed on them. Does this mean creating the entire race? If so couldn't the C'tan do that in order to create slave races on which to feed?

1hadhq wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

1hadhq wrote:
Orks = have a good chance, but could be distracted from fighting outside this galaxy and leave too.

Eh?

Ya, That made no sense. Pretty Sure Orks aren't leaving the Galaxy anytime soon.

Orks are fungi. Fungi expand. If there are more orks somewhere else, and the fun to be had there is greater, why should orks stay?
Orks are as free from 'home sweet home' , as nids, necrons, eldar, etc as they go where they like.

Dude, going to the next Galaxy isn't like crossing the street. The nearest galaxy is 2.5 million light years away.