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.. I take it you mean 20;25 yes ?

I must confess to some confusion as to your particular arrangements for this weekend.

...sorry, American time arrangement. Yeah, I mean 20:25/8:25 p.m.

It's weird. I'm down for Saturday then catch a train back up to Edinburgh for my flight back home for Christmas leaving on Sunday . x.x

..so, sorry, you are or aren't here for Sunday then ?

I will not be around for the tournament on Sunday, unfortunately. I've talked to Ketara about this earlier in the thread, and he said he'd have someone come in to take my place.

Gotcha.

..might be a bit tight to grab food before you leave then, but we'll have a few swift jars at least then. Assuming you're leaving from Canterbury West, then I guess we'll meet initially at the Bishops Finger then.

Solves that one anyway.

All right.

I am staying at The Falstaff just outside the West Gate and can give three to four people a lift to/from the university on Saturday morning/evening/Sunday, as long as they can meet me somewhere convenient. PM me if interested.

ChrisWWII wrote:I will not be around for the tournament on Sunday, unfortunately. I've talked to Ketara about this earlier in the thread, and he said he'd have someone come in to take my place.

Basically, we start the day with 14 players, and then drop down to 12 for the Sunday. Lovepug is playing on the Saturday only, in order to balance things out.

Oh jeez. Last night I tried speed-painting my War Walkers whilst watching the Shawshank Redemption. My plan was to have all three done by the time the movie was over.

They look awful, I'm going to have to redo them. This is gonna be tight man! Power-hobbying ftw.

Haha, I know the feeling.

I used to look down on dipping as not very good practice, but this week it shall become my favoured technique!


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Ben, do you have any further details of the remaining missions yet or are they to be a suprise?

Oh, Ben. More questions. (I'm going for Tau, just because nobody else is bringing them, but it's REALLY difficult to fit the army into 500, 1000 etc.)

- Will we have missions by the end of the week? (Or, are there any normal KP ones? Or are you sticking to alloted/special KP variations?)

- Can a Tau Commander add a Crisis Bodyguard unit in the next points jump. Is this the same as adding a dedicated Transport, or does it count as 'changing the squad'. They have separate listings in the HQ section of the Tau codex, but obviously the Bodyguard unit can only be taken with a commander.

notprop wrote:Haha, I know the feeling.

I used to look down on dipping as not very good practice, but this week it shall become my favoured technique!


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Ben, do you have any further details of the remaining missions yet or are they to be a suprise?

It is by the power of magic dip that I was able to shade and varnish 40 Termagants in half an hour last night.

It takes longer to assemble the models than to paint and shade them, using my production line process.

Spent all morning pinning 5 metal models that just would not stay together.

*shakes fist at metal models*

Though I only have 10.5 models to paint, which is a good thing.

If I get them done (very slow painter) then I might add a bit more weathering to my vehicles.

^Fethers! I'm going to try and get a Micron pen I think. That may well speed up the process. I ran out of black wash too, so I'm in a very bad way. I may abandon the Shining Spears and run Warp Spiders instead - at the very lest they're painted.

I reckon I'll be painting the Serpents in the car, on the way down ;-)

My poor Guardsmen are going to look like crap next to all these other awesome looking armies... .

Chris, believe me when I tell you that much last minute effort does not equal awesome looking armies. A fact that I shall prove beyond doubt with my guardmen.

I will just declare myself a power gamer that doesn't need a well painted force because my "game" is what I am all about.

When this proves to also be a fallacy I will drink you all under the table and do a victory samba with all of the warhammer groupies that will surely be attending this event.

It’s always about the groupies

ArbitorIan wrote:Oh, Ben. More questions. (I'm going for Tau, just because nobody else is bringing them, but it's REALLY difficult to fit the army into 500, 1000 etc.)

- Will we have missions by the end of the week? (Or, are there any normal KP ones? Or are you sticking to alloted/special KP variations?)

- Can a Tau Commander add a Crisis Bodyguard unit in the next points jump. Is this the same as adding a dedicated Transport, or does it count as 'changing the squad'. They have separate listings in the HQ section of the Tau codex, but obviously the Bodyguard unit can only be taken with a commander.

1. The new missions are up now! I just added them.

Attrition penalises those who go out of their way to gain advantage in Assassination, and Bombardment allows the losing player to gain a little extra edge in holding objectives, making things a leetle more interesting.

2. Yes you may. I would treat the adding of Honour Guard, Dark Eldar retinues and so on as the same, its adding a new unit, even if you attach them to an independent character.

hmm.. I smell battlemissions.

Also, how do my engineers work in this case? Do they come on where my breaching drill made a hole or do they walk on from the table after they die?

Snarky wrote:hmm.. I smell battlemissions.

Also, how do my engineers work in this case? Do they come on where my breaching drill made a hole or do they walk on from the table after they die?

Errr......I actually have no idea how your engineers work. However, presuming its the same as a Dark Eldar webway portal, and reserves would usually be able to enter through the 'hole,' then they would be able to. If its similar to a drop pod however, then they would only be able to use the effect again if the breaching drill was destroyed in the same turn. If the drill comes equipment for the squad and not as a separate vehicle, then you would be able to use the effect again and deep strike (I'm presuming that's how it works) anywhere on the table.

EDIT: I've just added those clarifications to the mission description.

Well, here's how engineers work:

The drill automatically arrives on turn 2. It may pop up anywhere via the deep strike rules, and smashes anything that's in it's way when it pops up (similiar to the tyranid beasty)

It then leaves a hole behind, which the engineers may choose to come up from any time after (you don't roll for reserves, you simply choose when they pop up -i.e. the engineers are simply waiting in the tunnel)

So it works a bit like the Mawloc (is this right?). I'll bring a FAQ with some of the clarifications with me on the day.

Also for some general viewing, here's the Krieg Army list.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/k/kreig.pdf

Also the FAQ!
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/dkkfaq2707.pdf


An interesting note is that engineers don't buy a Hades Drill, the Hades Drill must buy a squad of engineers!

Okay, its kind of a mesh of the two, so here's the ruling.

If a Hades Drill emerges via deep strike, the hole it leaves behind counts as a table edge from that point onwards for the purpose of Engineer Squads or other Hades Breaching Drills. If a Hades Breaching Drill is destroyed, it must re-enter play in an identical way to a troops choice (so it may deep strike again, emerge from a hole already made, or come on from a table side). However, for the second time, it does not need an Engineer squad to be following it.

I'll add it to the mission.

Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

Oh, I MIGHT drop down just to say "Hi" on the Sunday, btw.

SilverMK2 wrote:Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

That's better than me, right now I have managed to complete.... one engineer.

And I haven't even weathered him yet... I need to get off Dakka and get painting!

Bloody hell, you're cutting it a bit fine.

SilverMK2 wrote:Starting to think I should have used more troops, but ah well

And to update: I've undercoated and white washed 10 of my 10.5 models that need doing

Edit: Also, for "wrecked = exploded" for dedicated transports in Mission: Attrition, Table Quarters, does that mean if a squad is driving around in its transport and suffers a wrecked result, they have to roll for saves etc as if they were inside an exploding transport? Or do you just want the transport removed from the table?

It was mainly because I want them off the table, but rather than confusing the issue and saying that the model is removed, but doesn't explode, etc, I felt it would be simpler to just say it explodes with all appropriate rules applying.

I think I need to start compiling the 40K quiz for Saturday.....

Aaaaargh

And after all that, work has popped up this week. I'll only have friday free to prepare, so I'm not going to get any of my cunning army ideas ready.

So, in the interests of variety.... I'll be bringing the Daemons

(sorry notprop)

yeah,
boooo to daemons!

Just made my Grot lists. I only need to paint up a few deff dread arms and I'm good to go!

Panic.

Just to let you gents know, due to a severe football accident, Mark (Rinkydink), is no longer able to join us this weekend.

Now this leaves us in a bit of a tight spot regarding numbers, as they don't quite match up. I'm currently trying to fix this, but just as a backup, if any of you chaps has a friend that might like to come along, feel free to PM me.

ArbitorIan wrote:Aaaaargh

And after all that, work has popped up this week. I'll only have friday free to prepare, so I'm not going to get any of my cunning army ideas ready.

So, in the interests of variety.... I'll be bringing the Daemons

(sorry notprop)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

If we are as reported one short (sorry Rinkydink - get well soon ) I am quite happy to accept a free win if drawn against ArbitorIan so that he can let his Demons loose on someone else. (i'm semi-serious )

We might be too short. Haven't heard from Brad in a bit, and unsure what's going on with him. We'll attempt to find out as soon as, to level up numbers.