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**Pouncey**

Much as I'm enjoying reading the current debate over whether Custodes or Grey Knights are more killy against daemons...

It occurred to me that I can't remember too many specifics about Matt Ward's supposed crappiness as an author and rules designer - since I presume writing Codexes counts as both. All I can recall from the thread is basically, "Matt Ward sucks," "Matt Ward sucks," "Necrons and Blood Angels bromance, bro," "Matt Ward sucks," "Bloodtide," "Matt Ward sucks," "Bloodtide and Matt Ward sucks," and, "Matt Ward sucks." I think there was a third specific in there, but I might be thinking along the lines of a mention of the entire vanilla Space Marines codex.

Apart from the Bloodtide thing, which was really super duper gross and everything regardless of its fluffwise sense-making, a lot of the thread's content was people complaining about Matt Ward but not really saying much apart from, "He sucks," and maybe a brief mention of one or two things he's written, with no quotations or explanations.

Some people explained their dislike of Matt Ward, but a lot of it did seem to be senseless dislike based on other people's info which traveled by word of mouth through Emperor knows how many people.

As far as I know, the only Codex I have that was written by him was Codex: Space Marines, which I bought for the rules and, admittedly, haven't read the many pages of fluff contained within. There did seem to be a bit of an infatuation with Ultramarines, but that would make sense. In the 3rd Edition Codex, there was a large picture on one inside cover of what was a monstrous collection of Ultramarines, including old-style Land Raiders, Rhinos, and even a pair of Thunderhawks. Just got the old book out. Inside front cover has a pair of photos with the entire Ultramarines chapter represented.

Just had a flip through the army list pages, and man, what a wave of nostalgia...

A lot of the photos in the, "Choosing a Space Marines Army," are from other chapters, but there are plenty from Ultramarines. They even have a short, "How to paint Ultramarines," article, and their, "Painting Space Marines Vehicles," section shows an Ultramarines Predator being painted. I remember back then, as many of you should as well, that we referred to Ultramarines as Games Workshop's poster boys, who got all the attention because they sell GW products. So it would make sense for them to get plenty of attention and reverence in the vanilla 'dex.

Edit: Nevermind, seems I was wrong. Went back and read a bunch of posts, people were indeed mentioning more specific stuff.

**withershadow**

You haven't read the fluff, so you don't know his fanboyism. In a number of instances, he would actually take pre-existing fluff, and throw in a few small edits and extra adjectives to make the subject more awesomz 4 the win!!11!!! (Tigurius' fluff for example, changing from describing him as one of the most powerful psykers, to straight up hyperbole of being the most powerful psyker). And that's only a tiny example in the grand scheme of things.

He has also written the Blood Angels codex, which one-ups the SM codex for being silly, and the Grey Knights codex, which is equally full of silly, though the jury is still out whether its more silly than BA.

**Pouncey**

withershadow wrote:You haven't read the fluff, so you don't know his fanboyism. In a number of instances, he would actually take pre-existing fluff, and throw in a few small edits and extra adjectives to make the subject more awesomz 4 the win!!11!!! (Tigurius' fluff for example, changing from describing him as one of the most powerful psykers, to straight up hyperbole of being the most powerful psyker). And that's only a tiny example in the grand scheme of things.

He has also written the Blood Angels codex, which one-ups the SM codex for being silly, and the Grey Knights codex, which is equally full of silly, though the jury is still out whether its more silly than BA.

That's kinda my point... I haven't read any fluff he's written, apart from maybe a little bathroom reading with the vanilla SM codex. So I can't really judge, although I don't remember my reaction to the Space Marine unit fluff - the entries for individual units with several paragraphs of fluff on them.

On the Tigurius thing, I try to avoid special characters (unless I really like their mini) so I haven't read his stuff yet. But still, seems kinda silly... unless the competition were killed off. Then again, that would probably mean killing the Emperor on the throne. And probably some Eldar dudes.

I also hear a lot of hyperbole like your second paragraph, kinda like I do with some movies, but when I've watched some of those movies, I really don't get why they're so terrible.

I don't have the Blood Angels codex or the Grey Knights codex, and really have no intent of buying them, since I have no interest in playing them, so I can't judge there either.

**Da Butcha**

Pouncey wrote:
withershadow wrote:You haven't read the fluff, so you don't know his fanboyism. In a number of instances, he would actually take pre-existing fluff, and throw in a few small edits and extra adjectives to make the subject more awesomz 4 the win!!11!!! (Tigurius' fluff for example, changing from describing him as one of the most powerful psykers, to straight up hyperbole of being the most powerful psyker). And that's only a tiny example in the grand scheme of things.

He has also written the Blood Angels codex, which one-ups the SM codex for being silly, and the Grey Knights codex, which is equally full of silly, though the jury is still out whether its more silly than BA.

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On the Tigurius thing, I try to avoid special characters (unless I really like their mini) so I haven't read his stuff yet.
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I don't have the Blood Angels codex or the Grey Knights codex, and really have no intent of buying them, since I have no interest in playing them, so I can't judge there either.

Well, lemme just point this out. You have no intent of reading the Blood Angels or Grey Knights codices, but people point out that these are his two most silly works. That's your choice (and I would urge you to, unlike me, save your money), but that right there is why you haven't seen too many specifics about what people dislike about Matt Ward.

So far, if you want to see Ward at his worst, you have to read the Blood Angels and Grey Knights rule books. If you don't, then you aren't going to see why most people don't like him. Similarly, if everyone goes on about how terrible the food is at a new restaurant, and you don't eat there, you aren't going to really get why everybody dislikes it.

It's waaay too time consuming to list specific examples of what offends about Matt Ward's writing, given that it often appears, in multiple places, on every page of the books. Not only is it time-consuming, it probably would fall foul to GW's protection of their intellectual property.

I must now go to bed, as I have stooped to describing Matt Ward's tripe as "intellectual" property. Sigh.

**Pouncey**

Da Butcha wrote:
Pouncey wrote:
withershadow wrote:You haven't read the fluff, so you don't know his fanboyism. In a number of instances, he would actually take pre-existing fluff, and throw in a few small edits and extra adjectives to make the subject more awesomz 4 the win!!11!!! (Tigurius' fluff for example, changing from describing him as one of the most powerful psykers, to straight up hyperbole of being the most powerful psyker). And that's only a tiny example in the grand scheme of things.

He has also written the Blood Angels codex, which one-ups the SM codex for being silly, and the Grey Knights codex, which is equally full of silly, though the jury is still out whether its more silly than BA.

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On the Tigurius thing, I try to avoid special characters (unless I really like their mini) so I haven't read his stuff yet.
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I don't have the Blood Angels codex or the Grey Knights codex, and really have no intent of buying them, since I have no interest in playing them, so I can't judge there either.

Well, lemme just point this out. You have no intent of reading the Blood Angels or Grey Knights codices, but people point out that these are his two most silly works. That's your choice (and I would urge you to, unlike me, save your money), but that right there is why you haven't seen too many specifics about what people dislike about Matt Ward.

So far, if you want to see Ward at his worst, you have to read the Blood Angels and Grey Knights rule books. If you don't, then you aren't going to see why most people don't like him. Similarly, if everyone goes on about how terrible the food is at a new restaurant, and you don't eat there, you aren't going to really get why everybody dislikes it.

It's waaay too time consuming to list specific examples of what offends about Matt Ward's writing, given that it often appears, in multiple places, on every page of the books. Not only is it time-consuming, it probably would fall foul to GW's protection of their intellectual property.

I must now go to bed, as I have stooped to describing Matt Ward's tripe as "intellectual" property. Sigh.

Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

**Kurgash**

He made Dante sad and unwilling to go on, only able to continue the fight because of some prophecy about a Golden Warrior needed at the Emperor's side come the final battle, thinking it's him.

**Pouncey**

Kurgash wrote:He made Dante sad and unwilling to go on, only able to continue the fight because of some prophecy about a Golden Warrior needed at the Emperor's side come the final battle, thinking it's him.

Ookies...

I can see how that makes no sense. Why make him unwilling to go on, only to invent something random, reminiscient of Deus Ex Machina in a non-perilous way, to make him go on? Edit: If the story had a point to drive, then it's contrived at best.

Poor Dante, though. Did he at least get some hugs?

Edit: Starting to make more sense now.

**tgf**

I have this on very good authority, that the issue with Matt Ward is he has advanced Syphilis which actually causes brain deterioration. GW gave him a job out of pity and don't have the heart to tell him he sucks. They are simply waiting for him to die then they will correct his works. Matt Ward should not be hated he should be pitied.

**KingDeath**

tgf wrote:I have this on very good authority, that the issue with Matt Ward is he has advanced Syphilis which actually causes brain deterioration. GW gave him a job out of pity and don't have the heart to tell him he sucks. They are simply waiting for him to die then they will correct his works. Matt Ward should not be hated he should be pitied.

Hrm, then what about Gav Thorpe and Alessio Cavatore or Jervis Johnson and Andy Hoare? Are they positively diagnosed with brain rot for writing two of the blandest books which have ever graced the world of warhammer 40k? Or perhaps Phil Kelly whose Space Wolves are, at least fluffwise, just barely more digestible than Ward's vanilla marines?

Seriously, one can say many bad things about Ward's fluff, some of them are even justified, but when it comes to writing balanced rules with very few useless unit entries he is actually quite good.

**H.B.M.C.**

Pouncey wrote:Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

There's also this, which once you get past the bad language you can see what it's about.

**iproxtaco**

iproxtaco wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
Wow. Care to try and actually back up your arguments?

During a conversation in First Heretic, one character states that you shouldn't bet on a Custode if they ever fought a Space Marine as the two are so alike. So no, they are not half way between an Astartes and the Primarchs, not that possibly being marginially faster and stronger is a massive advantage against Daemons, considering this is what we're talking about, which force is better at fighting Daemons.
Actually, considering the Primarchs are the physical sons of the Emperor, using his own genetic material, and no firm evidence is given about Custodes using the Emperor's, they are not 'closer'. Have any evidence to suggest the Custodes have souls that are not palatable to Daemons? One was used as a sacrifice during a sorcerous ritual on Cadia, they clearly are, whereas the Grey Knights aren't.
It's hinted more that the Custodes are created and not recruited. Therefore, they don't have to prove themselves like the Grey Knights recruits have to.

Fine, 13,000 years, I have been proved wrong.

The Emperor's psychic might does not keep him alive. The Golden Throne does. He protects the human part of the Webway. Without his psychic sheath it's a Warp Portal right on Terra. He protects it and stops the Warp from pouring through. He does not keep the The Eye of Terror closed, and does not even try to. The Custodes DO NOT fight Daemons everyday, unless you can give me clear and hard evidence to suggest the contrary. The Warp portal beneath the Throne is CLOSED, no Daemons can get through. Custodes do not fight Daemons everyday.

If I needed a scout or something to carry out infiltration or fight in a built up area, then yeah. I would prefer the guardsman.
Hmm, the armour buckled in the end though, and still doesn't give as much protection as Terminator with Aegis against Daemons. Better than power armour sure, in-between Terminator and Power, which would be Artificer. Do the have the Aegis? Nope, therefore they are not better protected against Daemons.
Refer to previous point about strength. They are the same, or only marginally faster and stronger, which again, is not that much of an advantage against Daemons.
They can do as much training as they want, for as long as they want, they still don't go out an actively fight, so they do not have as much experience as the Grey Knights. Especially not against Daemons, who the GKs fight their entire lives non stop.

Actually, working together means actually helping each other out, coordinating abilites and tactics, and working coherently to take down their enemies. The Custodes are described as not doing this at all. Are you saying that it is now somehow an advantage? Ha. Yeah, that's being bunched up, different from working together.
Get S**t done individually, they don't work together to get s**t done, a whole lot less effective than working as a team to do the same thing.

There are no latent Grey KNights psykers, they are all very powerful full psykers, it's a requirment. There is nothing to even hint that Custodes are psykers of any form.

Link does not work, therfore you have no proof. They are not psykers. Their weapons are power weapons at best. Due to them not being Nemesis Weapons, and the custodes not being psykers, Nemesis force weapons are infinately better against Daemons than the Guardian Spears. With attached Storm Bolters loaded with psy-bolt ammo? So much better versus Daemons than the bolters on the Custode spears, and the lasers some of them have. Psycannons? Psilensers? Nemesis Dreadknight? Custodes have none of these. Do they have the Liber Daemonicum( Don't have access to the codex right now)?

So much of that is wrong. So very, very much. But I bolded the most desperately wrong parts.

I will discuss the bolded parts one at a time.

1.
The Custodes were the greatest group of physiologically and psychologically-enhanced troops the Emperor had ever created, ten thousand strong and the best trained, most disciplined and most vigilant watchmen in the Imperium.
Genetically Enhanced, not manufactured. Humans, who are augmented. This quote says it all.

2.
Although once a living man, his shattered, decaying body can no longer support life, and it is kept intact only by the cybernetic mechanisms of the Golden Throne and a potent mind itself sustained by the daily sacrifice of thousands of lives

The GT itself is not what sustains him, it's his mind. Also, the GT is powered by his mind

3. Or you can just blow up the urban zone

4. No, they work as a unit, but they fight independently. They co-ordinate their attacks, but do not fight in formation. They are described as bear, as opposed to the wolf pack of astartes, however the wolf-pack thing is only an advantage when they out-number the bear, and even then wolves will die. here, the bears outnumber the wolves 10:1. They are trained for a different function anyway, so this whole comparison is kinda useless.

5. In the Omnibus it said that most GK are latent, including Alaric, and that it is usually only termies have active abilities. Game Mechanics do NOT equal fluff.

If you make your next post more concise, I'll respond to the whole thing rather than just the most obvious issues, cuz Imma lazy

Some people are pissed as Mat Ward because the Grey Knights are better than the Custodes against Daemons, and because they have near no evidence to suggest the opposite.

Obviously not, else you would try to argue all the points you disagreed with.

1. That's not what it says though, nothing there states they were humans before they became Custodes. Regardless, what does that even prove? They can be as selective as they want, doesn't mean it will ensure quality.

2. Nah, that's not what it says though. Thousands of psykers are sacrificed every day TO KEEP HIS MIND ALIVE. That also doesn't help you in any way with this argument. Good that you conceded the point about the Custodes not fighting Daemons everyday.

3. What if I don't want to blow up the Urban zone? A Hive? Yeah, I'd want a guardsmen.

4. You can't fight as a unit and fight independently at the same time. Each Custode fights his own battle, separate from the other Custodes around him. For the last time, they do not work together or coordinate their attacks. There is no way you can twist or swing that to become a positive or an advantage over the Grey Knights. You realize that we aren't talking about the Grey Knights against the Custodes, we're talking about which is better against Daemons. You're analogy would only work if the Bears were fighting forces that are Wolves compared to the Bear. And yet, they're fighting Daemons, or, other Bears. They only advantage they have over the Grey Knights against the same enemy is possibly being slightly stronger and faster. Not much of one against a fething Bloodthirster.

5. Page number? Actually, it doesn't matter, if that's in the codex then it's no longer true. All Grey Knights are powerful Psykers. All of them. There are no latent Grey Knights Psykers, and I'm fairly certain there never were any. Custodes are not Psykers in any way, shape or form, so have none of the advantages that come from this. All Psykers have active abilities, you can't use out-dated and retconned fluff against the current codex, so in this case, current fluff > old fluff, equation that!

**Pouncey**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pouncey wrote:Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

There's also this, which once you get past the bad language you can see what it's about.

Okay, so, remember earlier, when I said I was ignorant of his debasement of 40k fluff? Now I'm not. Thanks. ^^

I wonder if anyone's burned an effigy of him yet...

**iproxtaco**

Pouncey wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pouncey wrote:Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

There's also this, which once you get past the bad language you can see what it's about.

Okay, so, remember earlier, when I said I was ignorant of his debasement of 40k fluff? Now I'm not. Thanks. ^^

I wonder if anyone's burned an effigy of him yet...

You still are. Thinking you now know what you're talking about because you read a 4chan page betrays your ignorance.

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:
Pouncey wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pouncey wrote:Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

There's also this, which once you get past the bad language you can see what it's about.

Okay, so, remember earlier, when I said I was ignorant of his debasement of 40k fluff? Now I'm not. Thanks. ^^

I wonder if anyone's burned an effigy of him yet...

You still are. Thinking you now know what you're talking about because you read a 4chan page betrays your ignorance.

not really.

**Pouncey**

iproxtaco wrote:
Pouncey wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pouncey wrote:Kay, that makes an astounding amount of sense and everything, but I really have no rebuttal. ^^

There's also this, which once you get past the bad language you can see what it's about.

Okay, so, remember earlier, when I said I was ignorant of his debasement of 40k fluff? Now I'm not. Thanks. ^^

I wonder if anyone's burned an effigy of him yet...

You still are. Thinking you now know what you're talking about because you read a 4chan page betrays your ignorance.

Aww, I think someone needs a hug. ^^ :: hugs ::

Hopefully Matt Ward won't be in charge of the Sisters of Battle Codex. I hate to imagine what sort of fluff he'd write about Battle Sisters being killed in the Emperor's name in their own Codex.

**iproxtaco**

You don't know what you're talking about by reading 4chan, to think that can now peak about Mat Ward and the Grey Knights codex after reading 4chan is laughable, and tells us you are still VERY ignorant. You have no opinion

**Pouncey**

iproxtaco wrote:You don't know what you're talking about by reading 4chan, to think that can now peak about Mat Ward and the Grey Knights codex after reading 4chan is laughable, and tells us you are still VERY ignorant. You have no opinion

Are you okay, dude? Do you need more hugs? :: hugs more ::

Do you have an alternative source I can read from that wouldn't require 35+ bucks a pop?

**iproxtaco**

The Grey Knights codex from a place that sells them for less than that, or torrent it. Or, read lexicanum or 40k wiki they are at least viable. 4chan is not a source. You are still very ignorant to think otherwise. You still have no opinion.

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:You don't know what you're talking about by reading 4chan, to think that can now peak about Mat Ward and the Grey Knights codex after reading 4chan is laughable, and tells us you are still VERY ignorant. You have no opinion

Actually after reading that article it kinda reminded me of the fact that the codex is not bad. no no no no.
ITs Terribad.
Its history seems like it was written by like a 4 year old.
AT least have someone that isn't a Ultramarines fan write it. OMG ultramarines are written all over the codex.
The grey knights and the ultramarines teamed up against the blooks of the Chaos Forces. Raping and pillaging the chaos forces.
The ultramarines were so awesome they did not have to get their minds wiped. The Grey Knights then followed the codex astrates because they are gakking gits.
I used to love both of those chapters. But now they look like posers. Alaric and Chapters Due are the best characters and book series. Ever. But Matt Ward has no talent, apart from fething up 25 years of history.

plus the grey knights looked really badass before hand. If they put a little bit more time in like making the Dreadknight look this badass.

and not making it look like this......

now when ever I face them with my tau I have this similar reaction....

The Grey Knights should be awesome not fanfic.
Not only that but read this....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083661/
Further Proof that Matt Ward has no talent...

**iproxtaco**

Of course it would, it's fething 4chan. Taking extreme and baseless opinions and inflating them times a thousand, until they have no viability.

It would be nice if someone who disliked the codex told us why, instead of just saying it's bad and wishing horrible death on another human being.

That is a fething nice picture though, die puny Tau!

**purplefood**

iproxtaco wrote:Of course it would, it's fething 4chan. Taking extreme and baseless opinions and inflating them times a thousand, until they have no viability.

It would be nice if someone who disliked the codex told us why, instead of just saying it's bad and wishing horrible death on another human being.

Actually this is about why (if we don't like him) we don't like Matt Ward...
He wrote a passable Ultramarines codex.
BA was getting out of hand.
GK is great in some areas but poor in others. The fluff is also confusing and doesn't fit with the older stuff.

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:Of course it would, it's fething 4chan. Taking extreme and baseless opinions and inflating them times a thousand, until they have no viability.

It would be nice if someone who disliked the codex told us why, instead of just saying it's bad and wishing horrible death on another human being.

I dislike it because it is breaking 10 years of history. Mostly with Daemon Hosts and the Daemon Blades. And they lower the grey knights to follow the codex Astrates which my opinion is stupid as hell.

But after reading their lore about the history of the blood tide. I found something.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083661/
I found this after a quick google search.
if your too lazy to read it here is a quick preview....

imbd wrote:An adventurer hunting for treasure in Greece accidentally frees a monster that forces local villagers to sacrifice virgins.

**iproxtaco**

I dislike the same parts in the codex, but my overall like for it outweighs those small niggles. They only have one Daemon Weapon though, and that's not to use as a weapon.

**Pouncey**

iproxtaco wrote:The Grey Knights codex from a place that sells them for less than that, or torrent it. Or, read lexicanum or 40k wiki they are at least viable. 4chan is not a source. You are still very ignorant to think otherwise. You still have no opinion.

Okay...

From Lexicanum's Grey Knight's page:

To battle such enemies as Daemons, creatures that are not of this realm but formed of sorcery and madness, a Grey Knight must embrace the power of the Warp to battle a Daemon with its own weapons. Each Grey Knight is an accomplished, powerful psyker whose psychic presence is anathema to creatures of the Warp. They are trained to channel their psychic energies into a halo of protective wards known as the Aegis. Thusly armoured, a Grey Knight's presence becomes unpalatable to Daemons, making him immune to corruption, able to wield forbidden black magic, harness tainted artefacts and scour blasphemous tomes all without risk of being overwhelmed by the cursed power of Chaos.

Emphasis mine.

Which means that the entire story where the Grey Knights killed Sisters of Battle to obtain their blood to use in a mixture so they wouldn't become corrupted is crap, since they're immune to corruption by their own psychic defences - which do indeed have effects on the material realm, as evidenced by psychic powers that damage and kill things outside the spiritual realm.

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:I dislike the same parts in the codex, but my overall like for it outweighs those small niggles. They only have one Daemon Weapon though, and that's not to use as a weapon.

then why not lock it up on titan and put it behind thousands of protection wards? Instead of bringing it with them where the Crowe COULD DIE! and then oh no another daemon lord is on the loose.

**iproxtaco**

The Blood Angels codex was great, barring some stupid rules, which aren't exactly over-powered, but are silly in concept.

The Space Marines codex was good in most places, but I agree that there is an unnecessary concentration on the Codex Astartes and the Ultramarines, both of which don't really give for very interesting chapters.

The Grey Knights codex is my favourite of the two, I just really like the concept of them, but ironically it's the one I have the most problems with.
Daemonhosts in a Grey Knight army is just wrong. Draigo is just like a fan-made OTT wet dream. The Dreadknight was good in idea, but the model is lack-lustre and doesn't look 40k, although Mat Ward did not design the model himself.

**Nerivant**

Asherian Command wrote:

But after reading their lore about the history of the blood tide. I found something.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083661/
I found this after a quick google search.
if your too lazy to read it here is a quick preview....

imbd wrote:An adventurer hunting for treasure in Greece accidentally frees a monster that forces local villagers to sacrifice virgins.

Uh, that movie has James Earl Jones, who is one of the baddest ass-kickers on the planet, and Jose Ferrer, who played the Padishah Emperor in Dune.

That makes the Grey Knights more awesome.

**iproxtaco**

Pouncey wrote:
From Lexicanum's Grey Knight's page:

To battle such enemies as Daemons, creatures that are not of this realm but formed of sorcery and madness, a Grey Knight must embrace the power of the Warp to battle a Daemon with its own weapons. Each Grey Knight is an accomplished, powerful psyker whose psychic presence is anathema to creatures of the Warp. They are trained to channel their psychic energies into a halo of protective wards known as the Aegis. Thusly armoured, a Grey Knight's presence becomes unpalatable to Daemons, making him immune to corruption, able to wield forbidden black magic, harness tainted artefacts and scour blasphemous tomes all without risk of being overwhelmed by the cursed power of Chaos.

Emphasis mine.

Which means that the entire story where the Grey Knights killed Sisters of Battle to obtain their blood to use in a mixture so they wouldn't become corrupted is crap, since they're immune to corruption by their own psychic defences - which do indeed have effects on the material realm, as evidenced by psychic powers that damage and kill things outside the spiritual realm.

They're immune to corruption of the mind and soul, not corruption of their physical bodies which they had to protect.
Using the blood of the Sisters stopped the Blootide from corrupting their bodies and allowed them to defeat the Bloodthirster at it's source.

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:The Blood Angels codex was great, barring some stupid rules, which aren't exactly over-powered, but are silly in concept.

The Space Marines codex was good in most places, but I agree that there is an unnecessary concentration on the Codex Astartes and the Ultramarines, both of which don't really give for very interesting chapters.

The Grey Knights codex is my favourite of the two, I just really like the concept of them, but ironically it's the one I have the most problems with.
Daemonhosts in a Grey Knight army is just wrong. Draigo is just like a fan-made OTT wet dream. The Dreadknight was good in idea, but the model is lack-lustre and doesn't look 40k, although Mat Ward did not design the model himself.

I completely agree.

But Nerivant, that makes matt ward break a copy right. GW has been sueing people all the time about their copyrights being taken now. If the director read this, he would immediately know GW stole his ideas.
GW is a bunch of hypocrites.

**purplefood**

iproxtaco wrote:The Blood Angels codex was great, barring some stupid rules, which aren't exactly over-powered, but are silly in concept.

The Space Marines codex was good in most places, but I agree that there is an unnecessary concentration on the Codex Astartes and the Ultramarines, both of which don't really give for very interesting chapters.

The Grey Knights codex is my favourite of the two, I just really like the concept of them, but ironically it's the one I have the most problems with.
Daemonhosts in a Grey Knight army is just wrong. Draigo is just like a fan-made OTT wet dream. The Dreadknight was good in idea, but the model is lack-lustre and doesn't look 40k, although Mat Ward did not design the model himself.

There was too much concentration on the Ultramarines...
It would have been interesting for them to show examples of the divisions among the codex astartes.
GK as a codex shouldn't have happened.
An Inquisition codex would be better since GK are just the militant wing of 1 ordo.
Instead we have GK codex with Ordos xenos and Hereticus for some reason.