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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 10:18:58
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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I dare say that GW wanted to Hype the next big thing that is Dreadfleet.
Oz GD is this w/e and is the first one in 8 or so years. I dare say that an announcement would be made there as WD is also released that day and the ad for Necrons in Nov would be in WD.
If I was GW; thats what I'd do...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 20:37:10
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Games Workshop remains the company that I would love to love...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 22:10:59
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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But sadly cannot.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:In the grim darkness of the far future, the guy with a rifle is the weakest man on the battlefield, left to quake in terror, hoping the two or three shots he gets do the job before somebody runs screaming across the battlefield to hit him with an energized stick.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440996.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/27 22:40:12
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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So more units fade away from the GW page.
It's not even subtle any more GW!
GOD DAMMIT GIVE ME MY 'CRONS!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/27 23:10:18
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Battleship Captain
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Or at least friggin' tell us about their upcoming release!
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/27 23:22:19
Subject: Necron Codex Gone form GW site UK
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baron deathnyx wrote:Its a shame that the C'tan are going to be weeker. the nightbringer when first released put fear in everybody. Now its the dark eldar that put fear into everybody.
After watching a DE raider force from the old codex beat a friend in 1 and a half turns, i have always feared DE XD
But seriously, necrons DO need an update.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/27 23:23:28
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Yes, they do. I mean for christ sake Gdub, they are still stuck in 3rd ed!!
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:In the grim darkness of the far future, the guy with a rifle is the weakest man on the battlefield, left to quake in terror, hoping the two or three shots he gets do the job before somebody runs screaming across the battlefield to hit him with an energized stick.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440996.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/27 23:25:35
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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Well, yes, that's why they are getting an update. So stop whining and wait a few more months. I've been waiting for 5 years, so my friend can put up a decent fight.
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Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 15:20:43
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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I was hoping for a cryptic (or cryptek) teaser at the back of Oct's White Dwarf, but apparently there's nothing.
I rang subscriptions today to see where my copy is and was told they were posted last Friday, sounds like BS to me.
I also rang my local store to see whether they had it in, but apparently it will be turning up in stores on the 1st Oct.
Still, we know they are coming as the website is almost devoid of Necrons you can order and the codex has been missing since I started this thread. I'm half tempted to try ring up and ask sales where they have have gone in an attempt to get an answer but am pretty sure I will be mugged off...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:14:53
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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GAH!!!
You gotta love when gamesworkshop employees beat around the bush... they have some great marketing training up their...
Called GW America a couple of days ago and Im being told hey yeah I play necrons, unfortunately no info. we just gotta be patient etc, etc...
Call again today, totally different dude, same response damn near verbatim...
I CAN SMELL THEM RISING DAMMIT!!!!!
I NEED EERIE GREEN GLOWING THINGS BESIDES THE ONES COMING FROM THE TOILET!!!!!
ARGH!!!! (goes back to playing dark crusade)...
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"I ayn't so eezy ta kill... heheheh..."
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 19:26:20
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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The only thing I can think of for this is to hype a new release without having to say anything about it as per their new marketing strategy of not announcing anything until 2 weeks prior to release. Pulling 90% of the Necron product from their webpage is a good way to obviously point to whats coming very soon and people will probably be saving up for the eventual pre-order. I mean its been several weeks since everything was removed and still longer until the rumoured release month.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 19:32:56
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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In the November issue of WD, you will find your "new" Necron Codex.
LAWLZ!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 19:36:47
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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WarlordRob117 wrote:GAH!!!
You gotta love when gamesworkshop employees beat around the bush... they have some great marketing training up their...
Called GW America a couple of days ago and Im being told hey yeah I play necrons, unfortunately no info. we just gotta be patient etc, etc...
Call again today, totally different dude, same response damn near verbatim...
I CAN SMELL THEM RISING DAMMIT!!!!!
I NEED EERIE GREEN GLOWING THINGS BESIDES THE ONES COMING FROM THE TOILET!!!!!
ARGH!!!! (goes back to playing dark crusade)... 
It's almost like people who work at big companies sign non disclosure agreements so they don't leak out information or something. What a concept, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 19:41:49
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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I wouldn't read into missing items too much. They may be 'repackaged'. Sisters' boxes went missing for months and then were singles only with direct order only possible. The same with the codex. You might get a pdf or a WD codex isntead. At least you had plastics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 20:29:34
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Brother SRM wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:GAH!!!
You gotta love when gamesworkshop employees beat around the bush... they have some great marketing training up their...
Called GW America a couple of days ago and Im being told hey yeah I play necrons, unfortunately no info. we just gotta be patient etc, etc...
Call again today, totally different dude, same response damn near verbatim...
I CAN SMELL THEM RISING DAMMIT!!!!!
I NEED EERIE GREEN GLOWING THINGS BESIDES THE ONES COMING FROM THE TOILET!!!!!
ARGH!!!! (goes back to playing dark crusade)... 
It's almost like people who work at big companies sign non disclosure agreements so they don't leak out information or something. What a concept, right?
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 20:34:38
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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WarlordRob117 wrote:Brother SRM wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:GAH!!!
You gotta love when gamesworkshop employees beat around the bush... they have some great marketing training up their...
Called GW America a couple of days ago and Im being told hey yeah I play necrons, unfortunately no info. we just gotta be patient etc, etc...
Call again today, totally different dude, same response damn near verbatim...
I CAN SMELL THEM RISING DAMMIT!!!!!
I NEED EERIE GREEN GLOWING THINGS BESIDES THE ONES COMING FROM THE TOILET!!!!!
ARGH!!!! (goes back to playing dark crusade)... 
It's almost like people who work at big companies sign non disclosure agreements so they don't leak out information or something. What a concept, right?
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms... 
Not the most tactful way of getting your point across. I'd consider more family friendly terminology when using public forums as rule of thumb, keep it clean and pretty much nice to look at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 21:48:57
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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i agree, you never know who could be on these forums.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:In the grim darkness of the far future, the guy with a rifle is the weakest man on the battlefield, left to quake in terror, hoping the two or three shots he gets do the job before somebody runs screaming across the battlefield to hit him with an energized stick.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440996.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 00:35:31
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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WarlordRob117 wrote:
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms... 
You're about as tactful as a kick in the crotch. And no, I don't know contracts like that mean dick. I know contracts like that mean you could get fired if you break them. I've signed more than one in my time and didn't break the information because I didn't want to lose the privilege. Also please don't use the word "slow" like that.
If you're tired of listening to robots when you could be assembling, painting or gaming; try building some models, painting said models, or making some friends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 12:41:35
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Managed to have a flick through the new White dwarf. Sadly no hint of necrons, it's pretty much Dreadfleet magazine with sone SoB battle missions. Nothing but dreadfleet on back pages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 13:31:12
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Northern Hemisphere
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Okay so lemme get this straight; the october white dwarf has no mention of new necrons because they're advertising a game that they can "no longer guarantee" we'll get and that has been talked about non-stop since they released the first teaser for it...
LOGIC ERROR!!!
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Ultramarines
The Seventh Brotherhood
Craftworld Kai Fe'
Splinter Fleet Megiddo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 13:42:06
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Kurgash wrote:
Not the most tactful way of getting your point across. I'd consider more family friendly terminology when using public forums as rule of thumb, keep it clean and pretty much nice to look at.
This is excellent advice, I can understand your frustration at the lack of info on the topic but this isn't really the best way to express yourself over this. Turn it down a few notches please. Obliged.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 14:51:21
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
Stockholm Forge District; Skandian Hive Collectives
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Weeell, Independent partners and Premium Stores has not been able to order in new copies of codex: Necrons for the last three months so.. the usual thing is 3-4 months before a new codex pops up. So I'd bet my lunch sandwich on this or the end of next month.
In the end it's all about profit. GW does not withdraw core products unless they are replacing them soon.
... Somehow they have not understood (STILL!) how much money a Great Crusade/Horus Heresy product would give them, or else they would be churning out plastic Space Marine armour variant kits like there was no tomorrow. Because they -Like- money.. and who doesn't.
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I have a little hobby-thread going in the P&M section. Some say it's the best blog on Dakka, some don't agree, most belive it would be better if I finished at least one project some time this century and not just kept starting new ones.
Check it out, you just might like it.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/385168.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 14:55:06
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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STC_LogisEngine wrote:
... Somehow they have not understood (STILL!) how much money a Great Crusade/Horus Heresy product would give them, or else they would be churning out plastic Space Marine armour variant kits like there was no tomorrow. Because they -Like- money.. and who doesn't.
Forgeworld has recently started churning out a lot of the different Power Armor marks, the Contemptor Dreadnought, and the old school Land raider.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 15:31:57
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh sod it, I may as well throw my observations of strange happenings into the rumour mill. My local Hobbycraft had reduced the price of its last remaining copy of the Codex: Necrons to £6.00 the other day. I had to stop some kid from buying it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 16:55:45
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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You should have let him.
The new codex will make us pine for the halcyon days of decent creepy fluff, even if the rules are ok, and there are some great pictures in the current dex
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 17:06:17
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Brother SRM wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms... 
You're about as tactful as a kick in the crotch. And no, I don't know contracts like that mean dick. I know contracts like that mean you could get fired if you break them. I've signed more than one in my time and didn't break the information because I didn't want to lose the privilege. Also please don't use the word "slow" like that.
If you're tired of listening to robots when you could be assembling, painting or gaming; try building some models, painting said models, or making some friends.
reds8n wrote:Kurgash wrote:
Not the most tactful way of getting your point across. I'd consider more family friendly terminology when using public forums as rule of thumb, keep it clean and pretty much nice to look at.
This is excellent advice, I can understand your frustration at the lack of info on the topic but this isn't really the best way to express yourself over this. Turn it down a few notches please. Obliged.
Brother SRM wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms... 
You're about as tactful as a kick in the crotch. And no, I don't know contracts like that mean dick. I know contracts like that mean you could get fired if you break them. I've signed more than one in my time and didn't break the information because I didn't want to lose the privilege. Also please don't use the word "slow" like that.
If you're tired of listening to robots when you could be assembling, painting or gaming; try building some models, painting said models, or making some friends.
Kurgash wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:Brother SRM wrote:WarlordRob117 wrote:GAH!!!
You gotta love when gamesworkshop employees beat around the bush... they have some great marketing training up their...
Called GW America a couple of days ago and Im being told hey yeah I play necrons, unfortunately no info. we just gotta be patient etc, etc...
Call again today, totally different dude, same response damn near verbatim...
I CAN SMELL THEM RISING DAMMIT!!!!!
I NEED EERIE GREEN GLOWING THINGS BESIDES THE ONES COMING FROM THE TOILET!!!!!
ARGH!!!! (goes back to playing dark crusade)... 
It's almost like people who work at big companies sign non disclosure agreements so they don't leak out information or something. What a concept, right?
You and I both know contracts like that mean dick... technically when they go home and tell their spouses about these things, they're breaching said agreements. Plus, some retards already proved that these agreements mean little. Look at the threads concerning Grey Knights rumors and all those pictures everyone said were fake or couldnt possibly be legit... WHAMMO!!! holy hell a high toughness, high strength biped with a GK strapped into it... Im just tired of listening to robots when I could be assembling, painting, and using robots to stomp some living organisms... 
Not the most tactful way of getting your point across. I'd consider more family friendly terminology when using public forums as rule of thumb, keep it clean and pretty much nice to look at.
I can accept Kurgash's attempt at calming me down, as he/she is not a hypocrite...
All Im doing is ranting and raving about something we already agree on, and since I dont make a habit of WUSSY footing through my words (thats for respects to Kurgash), I will ask this question to Red and Brother... How can I take seriously individuals who have avatars that represent the Devil and A man who is bulk of walking, swearing, murdering, fornicating, womanizing, man flesh that is a "perfect" role model as Duke would have it... You guys are telling me to cool it?!?!?! That makes about as much sense as a poorly written script about two mentally handicaped hikers thinking its a good idea to wander around Iran and wonder why they are getting jailed and charged with conspiracy and trespassing.
I have many friends, I have no new necron models to build, paint, and game with, and I have a patience faculty that rivals the incredible hulk... get off my back gents
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 17:35:57
Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Then I suspect you won't be posting on the forum for very long as we don't appreciate or allow such behaviour. We don't want people "ranting and raving".
You guys are telling me to cool it?!?!?!
Yes we are. That's the spirit, I knew we'd get there.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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Subject: Re:Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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reds8n wrote: Then I suspect you won't be posting on the forum for very long as we don't appreciate or allow such behaviour. We don't want people "ranting and raving".
You guys are telling me to cool it?!?!?!
Yes we are. That's the spirit, I knew we'd get there.
Tell you what... when the rules on the forum get updated to include no ranting and raving
and you guys quite the holier than thou smartass remarks... then we'll get there...
Until then... WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!?!
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 17:50:16
Subject: Necron Codex Gone from GW site UK
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Fixture of Dakka
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You do realize they have the authority and ability to enforce what they say right?
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Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 17:59:02
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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However, we have posters who after dreadful starts which made them look terribly moronic and immature, have "graduated" or turned into valued and great forum members.
.. where there's life there's hope eh !?
On Dakka, miracles can happen !
Ave Satannus ! All hail to the Horned One !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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