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Dysartes wrote:Nah, the only certain things this year are, as always, death and taxes.

You forgot the GW price "adjustment" in May.

d-usa wrote:Yes, I need more rumors to keep my predictions for the correct rumor alive. Project Prisoner (Dark Angels hunting Chaos Fallen to inprison/torture/save) for the win!

Or, the possibility that Project Prisoner refers to the old TV show 'The Prisoner', with the main character being called 'six'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_Six_(The_Prisoner)

H.B.M.C. wrote:Perhaps they really like the current Marine Codex (it is the most subdued of the Ward Collection), so want to keep it around for a while longer?

I really like the current Marine codex and wouldn't mind keeping it around for a couple more years.

Cadaver wrote:
Funny too, since I was thinking yesterday that the back images were probably the 6th box set cover, and it seems even more likely that is the case with the new DA rumors.

I doubt it's the cover, since so far we've just got a shot of a Dark Angel standing still and facing dead forward. I'd expect the typical giant batlte panorama with a screaming bald/balding man or two in it.

Kroothawk wrote: Why does this contradict Harry?

You're the one that posted the rumors from Harry and Ghost that pretty much said the BT or Tau were next with Tau being done for 18months. I could be getting my wires crossed but I'll blame that on old age if so.

warboss wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Nah, the only certain things this year are, as always, death and taxes.

You forgot the GW price "adjustment" in May.

$75 Land Raiders for everyone! (except the Aussies, we'll go $150 for them)

Brother SRM wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Perhaps they really like the current Marine Codex (it is the most subdued of the Ward Collection), so want to keep it around for a while longer?

I really like the current Marine codex and wouldn't mind keeping it around for a couple more years.

Cadaver wrote:
Funny too, since I was thinking yesterday that the back images were probably the 6th box set cover, and it seems even more likely that is the case with the new DA rumors.

I doubt it's the cover, since so far we've just got a shot of a Dark Angel standing still and facing dead forward. I'd expect the typical giant batlte panorama with a screaming bald/balding man or two in it.

It's definitely the most balanced, best written codex out right now. Unfortunately, it needs a redo because Matt is quite obviously encouraging codex creep, especially amongst the SM codexes. Almost nobody plays the SM 'dex anymore, because Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, and hell even Black Templars do it better.

Tactical Marines need a buff badly, even if they were just given counter attack or the ability to take two special OR heavy weapons. They're so bad compared to Grey Hunters, BA Assault Squads, Grey Knight Strike Squads, and even CSM squads.

Brother SRM wrote:I really like the current Marine codex and wouldn't mind keeping it around for a couple more years.

Plus there comes a point where you paint yourself into a corner with releases. With the last Marine release they had nothing new, so had to invent new units out of no where (Redeemer, Storm, Stern/Vanguard, Thunderfire) just to have new things to release (can't base a release around a re-cut Land Speeder and a Drop Pod). What the hell could they do this time besides turn some of the metal things they released into plastic (mostly redundant in the case of Stern/Vanguard) or invent more new units.

Better to move on and re-do an army that has a bad Codex. BT's make more sense from a model perspective (they have no kits besides the Sword Brethren) but they can at least do a Deathwing Terminator kit ala the Wolf Guard Termy kit for the DA.

Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

You realize that those rules are going to change drastically when 6th actually comes out, right?

75hastings69 just confirmed a DA vs Chaos Space Marine starter kit.

With a plastic Chaos Dreadnought!

Screaming Echo wrote:

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

You realize that those rules are going to change drastically when 6th actually comes out, right?

So maybe you should wait till the new edition comes out to see which ones?

Redemption wrote:75hastings69 just confirmed a DA vs Chaos Space Marine starter kit.

With a plastic Chaos Dreadnought!

Please link to the post/thread where he said this! I'm interested

Brother SRM wrote:

Redemption wrote:75hastings69 just confirmed a DA vs Chaos Space Marine starter kit.

With a plastic Chaos Dreadnought!

Please link to the post/thread where he said this! I'm interested

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331538-Rumors-from-BoK-Release-schedule&p=6060235&viewfull=1#post6060235

There you go.

Screaming Echo wrote:

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

You realize that those rules are going to change drastically when 6th actually comes out, right?

So, let me get this straight.

Fact: The 6e rules are rumored make Nids not only viable, but possibly OP.
Fact: You for some reason interpret "nids were written with 6th in mind" to mean nids will never get a good 6e codex
Fact: You are contemplating shelving your army based on the (likely incorrect) assumption that nids will A. be bad and B. not get another codex for a long time, which you uhh have zero idea about

Conclusion:

Cyrax wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

You realize that those rules are going to change drastically when 6th actually comes out, right?

So maybe you should wait till the new edition comes out to see which ones?

Yeah, I'll wait, but knowing my luck the new rules will probably not fix the overpriced monstrous creatures, the lack of invulnerable saves to defend against the abundance of low ap/power weapons and other such problems with the codex.

There is plenty of entries they could move over to plastic from the SM's. I would be quite happy if they did as a way of celebrating the 6th Edition. At least they could put the Vanilla SM's to bed model wise and concentrate on all the other armies moving forward. There are also a couple of entries that could do with an update e.g. Scouts (rather 1 box set with all options and variation in sculpts) and maybe the Dread to include all weapons. The fabled TDA Cmdr/Libby lit would also be a good move.

I am hoping for to see a plastic Thunderwolf Cavalry kit although they are non codex. The timing could be good though for generating a 6th edition buzz amongst SW fans.

I am also happy to hear the DA's/Fallen will be getting some love being my second favourite army fluff wise. The model support at the moment is pretty pants. Hopefully they will give them some similar box sets to the SW's.

When you think about it there is plenty of little bits & some big bits for SM's? GW could do to generate a 6th edition buzz. I hope they go for it across the board.

Redemption wrote:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331538-Rumors-from-BoK-Release-schedule&p=6060235&viewfull=1#post6060235

There you go.

Awesome, thanks!

Chimaera wrote:
I am also happy to hear the DA's/Fallen will be getting some love being my second favourite army fluff wise. The model support at the moment is pretty pants. Hopefully they will give them some similar box sets to the SW's.

You really think that? The current DA models are very, very nice. Lots of details and options, and not quite as overblinged as BA bits. A Deathwing Terminator box would be pretty cool though.

Wonder if Cypher will be in the boxed set as a promotional model, much like the characters in the AoBR and Island of Blood boxes.

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:

ph34r wrote:

Screaming Echo wrote:Wait just a god damn minute... No 6th edition Tyranid Codex because it was "written with 6th edition in mind"?

So I'm stuck with this codex for another Edition which could last, what, 5 years?

Nope nope nope. If these rumors are true, which I'm hoping to god they're not, I'm shelving the Nids and never looking back.

You realize that some nid builds are borderline broken in the new rules, right?

You realize that those rules are going to change drastically when 6th actually comes out, right?

So, let me get this straight.

Fact: The 6e rules are rumored make Nids not only viable, but possibly OP.
Fact: You for some reason interpret "nids were written with 6th in mind" to mean nids will never get a good 6e codex
Fact: You are contemplating shelving your army based on the (likely incorrect) assumption that nids will A. be bad and B. not get another codex for a long time, which you uhh have zero idea about

Conclusion:

For starters the rumors aren't fact. The rules you see in the leaked 6th edition has already been rumored to have changed a lot. Secondly, have you not read the rumors in this thread stating that none of the 5th edition codecis would get updated in 6th edition because they were already written for 6th? Thirdly, I'm contemplating shelving my army because it's become so stale to play over the past few years that not seeing a new codex for another few years isn't really lighting that spark for me to continue to play them.

So from what I've read so far, yes, I'll most likely shelve them. IF all the rumors are true. Unless 6th edition fixes a lot of problems, that is.

Redemption wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Redemption wrote:75hastings69 just confirmed a DA vs Chaos Space Marine starter kit.

With a plastic Chaos Dreadnought!

Please link to the post/thread where he said this! I'm interested

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331538-Rumors-from-BoK-Release-schedule&p=6060235&viewfull=1#post6060235

There you go.

Cool - Hope they're good kits.

DA - Ravenwing - bikes redone?

puma713 wrote:Wonder if Cypher will be in the boxed set as a promotional model, much like the characters in the AoBR and Island of Blood boxes.

I kind of doubt that, if only because they kept the captain and warboss in AoBR generic.

The real question is, if the new starter marines are DA, will the new face of noobie marines be robed?

I can see eldar coming before 6th edition, IIRC thats what has happened the past few editions I think... :S

Great news for my friend who plays both DA and CSM but terrible news for me...if true.

DA getting a two year leap over BT? Going to be some SM flame wars over that.

I see Tau and Eldar now fighting for Fall 2013 since the trend would suggest either BT or C:SM after CSM...again assuming that this is all true.

My only hope is that 6E bears a passing resemblance to the leaked PDF and the new rail rules are for real...plus a good FAQ. Speaking of which I thought I read that both the BT and Tau FAQs were NOT updated this last go 'round.

If it weren't for the WD cover mystery I'd say there is some mis-information being spread concerning the next SM release...to what end, who knows.

puma713 wrote:Wonder if Cypher will be in the boxed set as a promotional model, much like the characters in the AoBR and Island of Blood boxes.

lets hope so

Hastings statements on the starter box:

75hastings69 wrote:

which will give some credibility to the rumor of the 6th ED starter being DA vs Chaos

Interesting

Fingers crossed...DA's and CSM.

Not "just" CSM

Demons too?

No

Cultists / Traitor Guardsmen perhaps?

Glad to see you back in rumor-mongery, Hastings.

Not back in, just lending credence to this as I know it's correct.

No, there are rumors that may be complete fabrications about BT, Tau, Eldar, and Chaos. Strangers on the net don't trump White Dwarf.

Agreed (etc. etc.)

I wouldn't think that these are the entirety of this year's possible releases - books perhaps, but I'd be surprised if there weren't one or two waves.

Correct (ish )
(...)
I don't know if the spine images are anything to do with DA, 6th starter or the 25th year of 40k but I do know that most of the stuff posted is correct. 6th starter does indeed feature DA and the forces of chaos, including a nice plastic chaos dread

Screaming Echo wrote:For starters the rumors aren't fact. The rules you see in the leaked 6th edition has already been rumored to have changed a lot. Secondly, have you not read the rumors in this thread stating that none of the 5th edition codecis would get updated in 6th edition because they were already written for 6th? Thirdly, I'm contemplating shelving my army because it's become so stale to play over the past few years that not seeing a new codex for another few years isn't really lighting that spark for me to continue to play them.

So from what I've read so far, yes, I'll most likely shelve them. IF all the rumors are true. Unless 6th edition fixes a lot of problems, that is.

*sigh*

You really, honestly think that GW is going to sit back and only update;
Dark Angels
Black Templars
Chaos Marines
Tau
Eldar
Orks
And leave it at that for the next 5-6 years?!!

Seriously? No way is GW going to;
a) Go an entire edition of 40k without updating their entire company's flagship army!
b) Leave half the armies in the game 'as is' when there's obvious problems to address within each book.

Marines, BA's, SW's, DE, IG, Tyranids, GK's, Necrons & Daemons may all have to wait their turn for awhile now, but 6 books isn't going to even begin to fill 5+ years worth of 40k releases.
More likely we'll probably, (re hopefully), see at least 4 of the above armies before we see any of the 5th ed books get a looking at. Once the 6 books that still need an update are looked at, hopefully GW will see fit to look into both the 'nids and daemons.

Chaos Dreadnought )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Cool. I'll buy it, mainly for the CSM, but probably in part for the 6th edition rulebook.