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Why not a CHAOS marine, or Primarch. Mortarion in the last throes of agony, or perhap's one of fabius Bile's creations? An astral claw perhaps, or even one of the fallen?

The real answer simply is, we don't know. The description isn't specific enough. It simply says, a giant of a MAN, not a giant of a marine. And Baroque armour simply is esoteric armour, which could be knight armour, so it might even be ward going back to roots and hinting it is sigmar.

Except sigmar is in the old world, not Terra/Earth

2 different places

Matt.Kingsley wrote:Except sigmar is in the old world, not Terra/Earth

2 different places

And a heck of a lot of crossover.

But really, I think we have a Custodes or Grey Knight. Giant of a man? Check. Baroque armour? Check. Rare Enough on a Galactic scale to warrant collecting? Check.

They tick all the boxes!

but, Doctadeth has a point, while it might not be sigmar it is possible it could be a great hero from history.

Think, which of the greatest ancient warriors of Earth were tall and wore baroque armour?

I don't know, but I know some probably have there Ideas...

@Matt

KING ARTHUR!!!

wasn't he a titch?

Doctadeth wrote:Why not a CHAOS marine, or Primarch. Mortarion in the last throes of agony, or perhap's one of fabius Bile's creations? An astral claw perhaps, or even one of the fallen?

The real answer simply is, we don't know. The description isn't specific enough. It simply says, a giant of a MAN, not a giant of a marine. And Baroque armour simply is esoteric armour, which could be knight armour, so it might even be ward going back to roots and hinting it is sigmar.

I don't think they would consider marines different species entirely from humans. Augmented yes.... but still the same basic build. Not to mention they fight for the Imperium of MAN. I think it is a primarch, why else would it be worthy to be a trophy?

DeffDred wrote:Well... the 2 unknown primarchs are refered to as "the lost" and " the purged".

Maybe thats where "the lost" turned up.

It makes sense. Maybe GW is holding him in reserve (Fluff wise) if they need to launch another SM varient codex.

Coolyo294 wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Handless dorn?

Nope, the IF have his remains encased in amber.

I believe that is no longer considered to be cannon.

I doubt its one of the lost primarchs, im pretty sure they were never found by the emperor but then again my memory sucks so I have no idea.

I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!) but I think its more likely to be Khan or Vulkan.

Thatguy91 wrote:

Coolyo294 wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Handless dorn?

Nope, the IF have his remains encased in amber.

I believe that is no longer considered to be cannon.

Canon. 1 n.

I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

Amen.

Deadshot wrote:
Canon. 1 n.

Isn't Dorn MIA according to new fluff? And that IF actually have his powerful but not his body?

I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

Amen.

I believe the only parts of Dorn that have been recovered according to the new fluff is one of his hands, his armor and his weapons. So it cant be Dorn as he wasnt wearing his armor when we went mia.

I was pretty sure Dorn died where's this new fluff coming from?

Dorn's definitely dead, sources vary as to whether the Imperial Fists recovered his body (Ian Watson's Space Marine) or only his hands (Index Astartes).

Thatguy91 wrote:

Coolyo294 wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Handless dorn?

Nope, the IF have his remains encased in amber.

I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

Jealosy is an ugly emotion

The space marine novel and its re-release are no longer considered canon, therefore Dorns body has never been recovered nor does he have a confirmed time and place of death. Only a skeletal hand, his armor and his weapons were found in a escape pod by the Imperial fists. He may very well still be alive, considering what the IW did to lysander they may have Dorn inprisoned somewhere to torture his mind and body. I doubt Perturabo would have his rival simply killed on the spot without a few millennia of agonizing torture.

It's not a Marine at all, the Orks have been getting more clever with there schemes. What I wouldn't give to see an Ork jump out of the armor screaming, "It's a trap!" Ackbar-esque.

I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

How original.

How many internet cool points is that worth these days?

Thatguy91 wrote:


I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

I will also give you an amen, but that's only till that stupid piece of fluff saying that all marines wish to be Ultramarines is crushed under heel turned to dust to never be touched again.

King Pariah wrote:

Thatguy91 wrote:


I would like for it to be Rowboat Girlyman just because I dislike him and the Ultramarines ( can I get an amen?!)

I will also give you an amen, but that's only till that stupid piece of fluff saying that all marines wish to be Ultramarines is crushed under heel turned to dust to never be touched again.

^ This. Me no Likey.

Also, @ CT GAMER

Im not sure, how many cool points is pointing it out worth?

Thatguy91 wrote:

Also, @ CT GAMER

Im not sure, how many cool points is pointing it out worth?

200, which finally gives me enough to buy an Ultramarines fanny pack. Thanks.

Damn. I want that fanny pack, right now I only have the Ultramarines keychain.

My pleasure. Hit me up if you need any extra. I have plenty of overused comments left.

He has to be a primarch. My guess is one of the lost two primarchs. I say this because of two things a) his description b) the fat that he remains nameless. There is a lot of dramatic irony within the 40k universe. If you look hard enough you can find the exact location of almost everyone even if they are considered lost among those within the universe itself, except those two elusive, cryptic bad boys.

Well after reading through all the pages, another possiblity of who the person is, has anyone though about Someone important from the Former Fire Hawks/Leigion of the Dammed Chapter, they appear when needed whos to say they didnt appear during a necron engagement and Tranzyn captured the one he liked the most.

It isn't the "Purged". Being purged he's almost certainly very, very dead.

Thatguy91 wrote:The space marine novel and its re-release are no longer considered canon, therefore Dorns body has never been recovered nor does he have a confirmed time and place of death. Only a skeletal hand, his armor and his weapons were found in a escape pod by the Imperial fists. He may very well still be alive, considering what the IW did to lysander they may have Dorn inprisoned somewhere to torture his mind and body. I doubt Perturabo would have his rival simply killed on the spot without a few millennia of agonizing torture.

I take it that's from one of the novels? The IA article makes no mention of escape pods, nor of Iron Warriors, for that matter.

Not sure where the info on Dorn is from, I cant remember where I have read it. Lysander's story with the Iron warriors is from the new SM codex.

that giant of a man being a primarch is plain wishful thinking, any space marine sergeant, captain or chpater master fits the that. could even by a grey knight... and if Trazyn fancies him, that guy could be Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex as he fits the "gaint of a man in baroque armor"..

Thatguy91 wrote:Not sure where the info on Dorn is from, I cant remember where I have read it. Lysander's story with the Iron warriors is from the new SM codex.

Unless you can source it, I find myself dubious as to its authenticity, it's definitely not in either of the only two accounts of Dorn's death I can think of, i.e. Index Astartes II and Fantasty Flight's First Founding.