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One thing I'm noticing is that GW is doing away with the 360 turnaround on their website. Those were super handy to see the different angles on a model to see how something was painted or how it is supposed to go together.
All I can hope is that they bring that back when they do the new website.
Models look good. Hope they don't sell out in 5 minutes like every other preorder.
They stopped the 360s about a year ago. Real shame as was a great way to see all aspects of the minis that their photography often misses.
Those Australian prices can get straight in the bin. Even with 3rd party retailer discount they are ridiculous. This editions edition finally ends my run of GW. I know I can't compare back to the pricing of the 90s or early 2000s of my youth, but as an adult with a well paid job in today's responsibilities and all other commitments, they've finally managed to price me out completely. All the best to those who can stick with it.
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Every time something is released there are people saying the 360 shots are gone now and I really don't understand why.
Yes they aren't there when stuff goes up on preorder but they are being added later. I don't think there is a release that didn't get their 360 added. For limited boxes it might take until the stuff inside got their general release but otherwise it will get added not too long after release date.
I mean you literally just need to look at the last releases to see that the 360s got added. For example both the Tyranid releases from 4 weeks ago and the Ironjawz stuff from two weeks ago have theirs now. Even Trugg got one even thought its a limited box.
The Cerastus Knights from last week don't have theirs yet but their release date is today so will get added in the next few days
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It's literally the only way he interacts with people at this website.
Matrindur wrote: Every time something is released there are people saying the 360 shots are gone now and I really don't understand why.
Because suddenly stopping something useful without warning is GW's MO?
I thought they had stopped doing them after noticing a lack of them when new releases went up for pre-order, only to realise that they go up little while later. Why they can't have these photos ready for the day people can buy them is anyone's guess...
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Matrindur wrote: Every time something is released there are people saying the 360 shots are gone now and I really don't understand why.
Because suddenly stopping something useful without warning is GW's MO?
I thought they had stopped doing them after noticing a lack of them when new releases went up for pre-order, only to realise that they go up little while later. Why they can't have these photos ready for the day people can buy them is anyone's guess...
Peachy on The Painting Phase mentioned that miniatures painted for the box art were sometimes only painted on the "front", i. e. the angle shown in the photo, to save time. It's possible that is fairly widespread - maybe they commonly use incomplete painted models to get the boxes into print/sales portal, and finish them off for 360s much later after the rush.
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Peachy also talked about, in the last podcast with Louise Sugden, how every damned department has its own photography team, rather than just having a central photography department that takes care of all pictures.
More of the idiotic silo'd nature of GW, where office infighting is so unnecessary.
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Matrindur wrote: Every time something is released there are people saying the 360 shots are gone now and I really don't understand why.
Yes they aren't there when stuff goes up on preorder but they are being added later. I don't think there is a release that didn't get their 360 added. For limited boxes it might take until the stuff inside got their general release but otherwise it will get added not too long after release date.
I mean you literally just need to look at the last releases to see that the 360s got added. For example both the Tyranid releases from 4 weeks ago and the Ironjawz stuff from two weeks ago have theirs now. Even Trugg got one even thought its a limited box.
The Cerastus Knights from last week don't have theirs yet but their release date is today so will get added in the next few days
Consider what happens. New miniatures go up for pre-order that have been advertised for two weeks to three months to create interest. It's oftentimes the first complete look at these models anyone can get. The day pre-orders go up is the time when interest in the models is at its highest. People go check out the pictures and find there are no 360s. They make do and form their opinion on the new models with what's there. If they have no reason to go back to that webpage, whether it's because they decided to buy and have no further use for it or because what they saw didn't convince them to buy and there's no point in another look, the initial state of the webpage sticks in mind. They simply wouldn't know the 360s are added some time later. Thus get the impression GW doesn't do 360s anymore.
I appreciate that you're trying to set the record straight whenever this comes up. I wasn't aware of it either. The thing is, GW are just shooting themselves in the foot handling things like this. It leaves customers with less service when it matters most and with the wrong impression going forward. GW may well have structural problems that suddenly makes it impossible to upload 360s right away, but if they do, they should fix the issue right away. Because on the customer side, the situation looks as stupid as it gets. And I shudder to think that the delay might instead be deliberate and someone's genius idea of improving sales.
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Matrindur wrote: Every time something is released there are people saying the 360 shots are gone now and I really don't understand why.
Yes they aren't there when stuff goes up on preorder but they are being added later. I don't think there is a release that didn't get their 360 added. For limited boxes it might take until the stuff inside got their general release but otherwise it will get added not too long after release date.
I mean you literally just need to look at the last releases to see that the 360s got added. For example both the Tyranid releases from 4 weeks ago and the Ironjawz stuff from two weeks ago have theirs now. Even Trugg got one even thought its a limited box.
The Cerastus Knights from last week don't have theirs yet but their release date is today so will get added in the next few days
Consider what happens. New miniatures go up for pre-order that have been advertised for two weeks to three months to create interest. It's oftentimes the first complete look at these models anyone can get. The day pre-orders go up is the time when interest in the models is at its highest. People go check out the pictures and find there are no 360s. They make do and form their opinion on the new models with what's there. If they have no reason to go back to that webpage, whether it's because they decided to buy and have no further use for it or because what they saw didn't convince them to buy and there's no point in another look, the initial state of the webpage sticks in mind. They simply wouldn't know the 360s are added some time later. Thus get the impression GW doesn't do 360s anymore.
I appreciate that you're trying to set the record straight whenever this comes up. I wasn't aware of it either. The thing is, GW are just shooting themselves in the foot handling things like this. It leaves customers with less service when it matters most and with the wrong impression going forward. GW may well have structural problems that suddenly makes it impossible to upload 360s right away, but if they do, they should fix the issue right away. Because on the customer side, the situation looks as stupid as it gets. And I shudder to think that the delay might instead be deliberate and someone's genius idea of improving sales.
Sure it is certainly confusing for customers how GW does it now but it would still be nice to verify claims that GW stopped doing them a year ago before posting. Especially since it's just a few clicks.
It was just a little rant of mine since I see it for nearly every new preorder and whenever someone tries to clear up that its wrong their answers seem to get drowned under other responses.
And its certainly not the best characteristic of the internet but a rant gets more attention than just a factual answer
Full accounting of datasheet changes (and wholesale removals!):
Hopefully to the surprise of no one (certainly not me), I was right:
H.B.M.C. wrote: Right now a TDA Chaplain can get a Combi-Weapon purely because this mini exists. But that mini isn't on general sale, and the new one has no combi-weapon on the sprue. So it may have lost combi-weapon access in favour of the Storm Shield.
The Chaplain lost his Combi-Weapon option. Hell, so many units have been gutted for options, with inexplicable inclusions in there just for a bit of Chaosistency (Primaris Assault Marines Sergeant w/JP can still have a Thunder Hammer... but not the Primaris Jump Pack Captain). Terminator Captain lost all his options. Most characters can now lead Tactical Squads, because [s]we've always been at war with Eastasia[s] of the removal of Primaris as a title.
Command Squad has to be led by a character - cannot ever be taken by itself - and the weapons/wargear in that unit is as much of a complete gak-show as it looked.
Combat Squads are back! For Tactical Squads. That means the Razorback is useable by more than just Devastators and Command Squads (which don't exist anymore, so really just Devastators). But Tac Squads lost access to Heavy Flamers ('cause the Sternguard kit ist kaput, and the Blood Angel Tactical Squad has been OOP for a long time; actually one of the first First Born kits to remove from the range).
The book has other wild nonsensical changes, like making the Invader ATV crew's Heavy Bolt Pistols into Bolt Pistols. Like, why make that change? Why expend the energy it takes to alter the existing profile of a gun when the two weapons are almost identical to begin with? Especially when they can be part of Outrider squads that all have Heavy Bolt Pistols. Was it necessary to add an additional complication by including a new pistol profile for 1 guy? What kind of insanity or apathy has to exist for such an asinine change to occur?
I can't tell you how many freshly made Terminator Captain with Shield coversions I've seen over the past week alone online.
I bet they're all going to be thrilled /s
I have a hard time taking people seriously when they talk about having to "remember" everything their opponents can potentially do. It's such a weird mentality to me.
Kicking off my reviews of the new Space Marine kits with the new Company Command and Sternguard. The Sternguard are super customizable, probably the most variable Primaris kit yet, but the Company Heroes are quite limited. A few weapon options for the Captain, but apart from that, no weapon or posing options, just an optional bare head for each model.
drbored wrote: The main thing I'm curious about is what can attach to what.
Honestly the biggest question I have is what can Shrike attach to?
Vanguard with Jump Packs and Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs. He's shown in the GMG video.
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Best unexpected change (assuming goonhammer is right): terminator sergeants can swap power sword for power fist.
The long, long legacy of the sergeant being the worst guy in the squad is finally gone.
Huh. Weird callback to the Terminator chaplain getting a relic shield. It... doesn't matter much. His starting wounds are 5 and with the shield its 6, so against most weapons (unless they have a random damage number) it makes no difference. You can do weird Tetris statistics to work out when exactly it would matter, but against damage 2, 3 or 4 weapons, its 3, 2 or 2 hits regardless. It could matter if mortal wounds are invovled (because with a unit he has a 4+ shrug against MW, but.. those are now less common, so... whatever).
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