Genestealer Game 4: 40k Leagues Under the Sea

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**Thor665**

Also, just as a general note - in my opinion most good conversation has dried up right now. I'm fine with a lynch within the next few days, how about we pretend deadline is Friday or something? I see no reason to drag this out for six more days unless we have good conversation going. It's pretty obvious what the choices are right now, everyone should choose and say why they chose that way.

**Lord-Loss**

I think I'm fine with a Vulkan lynch, not sure about a Drk_Oblit lynch.

**Thor665**

I'd say vote him then, then all the Vulkan wagon has to do is convince two of the Oblit wagon to float over.

@FERRETT - vote.

@ARHEINER - (if you're around) your current vote is meaningless, please pick a real wagon.

@VULKAN - why are you not voting for Drk_O at this point?

LL, you clearly prefer Vulkan. Unless Vulkan is suicidal he'll end up preferring the Drk_O wagon. That puts both wagons at 5 votes each.

@EVERYBODY VOTING DRK_O AND VULKAN!
I want you to list your top two lynches (really just your second lynch since I'll presume you're voting your top). we need to figure out which of these wagons is going forward this phase.

By anytime Friday if Vulkan's wagon has six votes I will hammer him because I think we're not getting any more worthwhile conversation today and also because I find Vulkan a reasonable lynch target.

**Deff Dread red Edition**

Well, my number 1 for a lynch today is Vulkan(rather obvious, but still, you did say two lynches). He has acted in the manner I had expected him to, random votes, or unvotes. Coupled with ill explained reasons for these, he also shows disinterest in the game, IMHO.

My second for lynch would be Shas'O, the rubbish(sorry to be a bit harsh)he has been posting, doesn't help anyone. I feel this could be a deliberate scummy ploy, to generally muck up conversation now and again.

The only reason why Drk_O isn't on my list is actually because I am half way to believing he is scum. I feel it better to keep him around and affirm my suspicions, and just perhaps find his partner before moving to lynch him.

**Thor665**

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:The only reason why Drk_O isn't on my list is actually because I am half way to believing he is scum. I feel it better to keep him around and affirm my suspicions, and just perhaps find his partner before moving to lynch him.

::insert shocked wide-eyed emoticon here::

**Deff Dread red Edition**

A face like this perhaps....

I realize that was quite badly worded, I meant that he was indeed on my list of those whom I suspect, and he ranks fairly high. However, it helps nothing to simply lynch him and still be left with no clue as to who his partner is. Then again, I'm all for lynching him and finding that out through more discussion.

**Lord-Loss**

unvote: Shas'O
Vote: Vulkan

I've made my decision, Shas is second on my suspects list.

**the_ferrett**

Insofar the likelihood of guilt of both of both parties is the same. Why should I vote one over the other?

**Thor665**

the_ferrett wrote:Insofar the likelihood of guilt of both of both parties is the same. Why should I vote one over the other?

Because we need a full simple majority to have a lynch, otherwise we have no lynch which is not good for town. If we lynch we have a chance of lynching scum, if we do not lynch then we have no chance of that happening.

Insofar as you feel they are both of absolute equal guilt - why is it so difficult just to pick one and vote for them?

**BishopGore**

Vulkan has become my top suspect due to his change in play style. I would list Ferrett as my second highest suspect, he won't vote for anyone and he's dancing around most of the questions asked.

Sorry for the short post just spent 3 hours going through another mafia game and now my brain is deep fried *sizzle*

**the_ferrett**

Because I will not throw good salt after bad.

**Thor665**

the_ferrett wrote:Because I will not throw good salt after bad.

Okay, so basically you're saying you don't believe either of them are worth voting for at all? If you had to pick someone to vote for who would it be?

Also, how do you think your methods in the game thus far will help us catch Genestealers?

**the_ferrett**

I don't. I understand my methods thus far have been... sub-par. Mainly its fear of you tbt. And I would be sitting on someone if I had a suspect. Any suspect.

**Lord-Loss**

But if we think as the rest of the town as using the normal scum hunting technique and then compare it to yours. Our's is alot more succesful, you're only making yourself seem suspicous.

**Thor665**

If you fear me then shouldn't you be voting Vulkan since I seem to want Drk_O lynched?

If you have no suspects do you at least have a player(s) you trust (like at least maybe n0t_u who is an uncontested claimed Inquisitor?). You can vote with them the way they're voting in the hopes their suspicions are more accurate then yours.

Heck, even if for some insane reason you refuse to vote at least explain *why* you don't think either Vulkan or Drk_O is worth voting.

The worst thing you can do is clam up and not offer thoughts. There are multiple examples of people trying this in Genestealer games here and they almost always end up lynched for it.

**the_ferrett**

Fear makes me hesitate rather than act irrationally, Who do I trust? Usually noone. I usually ask enough questions to elliviate my fears. Its not that neither of them is worth voting for. Indeed the evidence for both side is compelling and I suspect both will be dead come morn, its just... neither side is more compelling than the other. And no that doesn't mean you just randomly bandwagon. That means you ask more questions. Like why is Drk_O MORE guilty than Vulkan and visa versa.
(BBL Classes)

**Thor665**

...or it means you flip a coin.

I have presented my case on Drk_O and it includes why I am voting him over Vulkan - you either buy into it or you do not. LL and Bishop Gore have done the same for Vulkan, again, you either buy it or you do not.

Also, if your solution is a need to ask questions why in the universe am I having to chase you around the yard with a stick demanding info? Shouldn't our positions be reversed?

**the_ferrett**

*Shakes head* I have no idea.

**Thor665**

I now strongly support a ferret lynch.

**the_ferrett**

I now firmly believe you're wrong.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Wrong in what way? Is he wrong simply because he feels that you along with Drk_O and Vulkan are prime candidates to be lynched? From the looks of things a couple people agree with him that you should be lynched, you're certainly stammering about rather uselessly, cluttering the thread with posts that can only act as a smoke screen for the genestealers. Similarly to what Drk_O does, something that earns you no points with me.

**SagesStone**

Second on my list is Drk_O.

But being the Inquisitor my list is a bit longer than that, as I have to think of who would be a good target for investigation and would have to go through everything to figure that out

**Thor665**

Voting consideration

n0t_u lists second as Drk_O
BishopGore lists ferret as his.
LL & DDRE list shas'o as their second.
Thor665 & Brother Stynier list Vulkan (though at least for me both ferret and DDRE are now in hot contention too, but I don't see us getting either of those wagons.)

At least half of the current Drk_O wagon sees Vulkan as a reasonable lynch. I'd like to hear from shas'o and Fifty on this question as well but it doesn't look like any of the Vulkan wagon (besides n0t_u) are down with the Drk_O wagon whereas the reverse is not true.

Vulkan - if you are town please vote for Drk_O (heck, if you are scum you should vote for Drk_O as well, as it's the only thing likely to save you at this point)

shas'o & Fifty - please weigh in on the 2nd preference question.

n0t_u - If Vulkan shows up and votes Drk_O would you change your vote to lynch Drk_O?

If Vulkan hasn't voted by tomorrow I will change my vote - as I've said, we're going nowhere right now so we might as well lynch and get some new info on the table.
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Thor's Last Will & Testament
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If I am not around tomorrow due to horrible death these are some things I wish considered.

ferret - why will this bum not vote? Find out, and force him to give opinions.

n0t_u - you *must* discern if he is the real Inquisitor. DEMAND a counter claim from everyone else (if you get one then you know you've got a real Inquisitor and a real scum - lynch one of them, and if you're wrong lynch the other next Day). Also, DEMAND his investigation results. If there is no counter claim I would reasonably trust him (90%), but keep an eye on him (especially by Day 3-4) as it might be a scum trick.

DDRE - "I want to keep Drk_O alive because he's scum and I want to find his partner" WTF! Keep an eye on him.

Vulkan/Drk_O - whichever isn't lynched is *not* cleared, keep pressure on them. Demand opinions.

BishopG - if we lynch Vulkan and Vulkan flips scum I will not be in support of a BishopG lynch, if Vulkan flips town I think BishopG will need more looking at. A weak read, but I want it out there, the above reads are all stronger.

shas'o - personally I think everyone who wants to lynch him is reading him wrong. Still, force him to keep talking and offering opinions so maybe you can decide if I'm just being dumb or not.

**Deff Dread red Edition**

I think your twisting my words there a bit mate. The above message was meant to convey that he was high on my list of suspects and not actually scum. It, in all honesty, was a post born of a tired mind still coping with doing English homework.

What I said was that I was half way to believing he was scum, and that I thought that before putting in a vote for him, it would be better to actually get more evidence to validate my suspicions.

**Fifty**

((Sorry, been trying to balance working, socialising and filling in job applications... Not been reading this as a result, but hopefully people still feel my average posting throughout the thread so far has been of sufficient quantity))

My first preference is currently Drk_O. I see Vulkan as a reasonable alternative. Shas'o is also a decent alt.

I also feel a Friday lynch would be reasonable.

**Gornall**

Current Vote Count:

0- Thor
0- DDRE
0- Lord-Loss
1- Fifty...................(Arheiner)
5- Vulkan_Hestan....(Dark_O, DDRE, Not_U, BishopGore, Lord Loss)
0- Arheiner
0- BishopGore
0- Brother Stynier
4- Drk_Oblit............(Thor, Fifty, Shas'O, Brother Stynier)
0- Shas O'vera
0- Ferret
0- Not U

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

**Gornall**

I just prodded Arheiner. If he hasn't posted by Friday at 6:00 PM EST, then he'll be removed.

**Lord-Loss**

I'm voting Vulkan Gornal.

**the_ferrett**

That puts Vulk at 5. 2 left to lynch.

**Lord-Loss**

Going to vote yet Ferret?