Space Wolves and The Thousand Sons

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**Pilau Rice**

the rout wrote:In which one does it say this has anything to with Horus and when?

I will dig it out and find out rout, I'm pretty sure it is in one of the series books or Collected Visions.

I'm at work without access to my arcane lore ...

**the rout**

Ive only browsed C:V so it may be in thier, ive read all the others though and it isnt referenced but if you could find it and let me know that'd be cool, I hate not knowing HH fluff lol

**Pilau Rice**

the rout wrote:Ive only browsed C:V so it may be in thier, ive read all the others though and it isnt referenced but if you could find it and let me know that'd be cool, I hate not knowing HH fluff lol

False Gods p405
'But what of Magnus' asked Maloghurst urgently, 'What happens when Russ returns him to Terra?'

Horus smiled. 'Calm yourself, Mal. I have already contacted my brother Russ and illuminated him with the full breadth of Magnus's treacherous use of daemonic spells and conjurations. He was... suitably angry, and I believe I have convinced him that to return Magnus to Terra would be a waste of time and effort'

So the Emperor had only instructed Russ to take him back to Terra.

Either Russ has chosen not to reveal the contact between him and Horus, as it isn't mentioned in Prospero Burns or Mr Abnett has forgot to speak to Mr McNeill.

Russ then chose to ignore the warning from Hawser. Like I said he wanted to take Magnus out and Horus gave him the excuse

**Laodamia**

Pilau Rice wrote:
the rout wrote:Ive only browsed C:V so it may be in thier, ive read all the others though and it isnt referenced but if you could find it and let me know that'd be cool, I hate not knowing HH fluff lol

False Gods p405
'But What of Magnus' asked Maloghurst urgently, 'What happens when Russ returns him to Terra?'

Horus smiled. 'Calm yourself, Mal. I have already contacted my brother Russ and illuminated him with the full breadth of Magnus's treacherous use of daemonic spells and conjurations. He was... suitably angry, and I believe I have convinced him that to return Magnus to Terra would be a waste of time and effort'

You forgot the evil Muahahahahaaaa at the end of Horus' speech.

**pretre**

Or they are both versions of the events as they really occured. Conversations could be misremembered. Force dispositions are pretty solid.

I still contend that he sent Russ along with the presence of Valdor, the Custodes and the Sisters is pretty good evidence that the Big E intended full sanction.

Others seem to disagree.

**the rout**

Well this is slightly contradictory because in PB Russ doesnt seem like he even wants to kill Magnus, might be a cunning front i guess.... I really love Russ hes such a suave sneaky customer as well as being a violent killy machine, hes like a mix of angron and the lion which is quite a potent mix.

**purplefood**

pretre wrote:Or they are both versions of the events as they really occured. Conversations could be misremembered. Force dispositions are pretty solid.

I still contend that he sent Russ along with the presence of Valdor, the Custodes and the Sisters is pretty good evidence that the Big E intended full sanction.

Others seem to disagree.

He may have sent them in case a full sanction was needed... like an ultimatum of sorts.

**pretre**

purplefood wrote:
pretre wrote:Or they are both versions of the events as they really occured. Conversations could be misremembered. Force dispositions are pretty solid.

I still contend that he sent Russ along with the presence of Valdor, the Custodes and the Sisters is pretty good evidence that the Big E intended full sanction.

Others seem to disagree.

He may have sent them in case a full sanction was needed... like an ultimatum of sorts.

That would mean The Emperor left the decision of sanction up to Russ/Valdor.

**purplefood**

pretre wrote:
purplefood wrote:
pretre wrote:Or they are both versions of the events as they really occured. Conversations could be misremembered. Force dispositions are pretty solid.

I still contend that he sent Russ along with the presence of Valdor, the Custodes and the Sisters is pretty good evidence that the Big E intended full sanction.

Others seem to disagree.

He may have sent them in case a full sanction was needed... like an ultimatum of sorts.

That would mean The Emperor left the decision of sanction up to Russ/Valdor.

Russ may have had a grudge against Magnus but even he would have realised the gravity of the descision to attack the Sons...
He wouldn't have done it if Horus hadn't messed about with him.

**Simo429**

Battle for the fang certainly sheds some more light on the situation (Full review can be found http://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2011/03/battle-of-fang-review.html)

Spoiler: