Why I Hate The Dark Eldar

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**kuro_khan**

I don't actually hate the Dark Eldar, they're my favorite army, but I'm seeing a lot of anti-DE hate on the forums whenever we talk about wanting a new codex. I'm trying to find out why.

PLEASE no flaming

. Just trying to understand people.

**Roze**

I love them! i would like some better looking models though.

**adielubbe**

Under a good player, they are devastating :O

**Demogerg**

I hate them because in over 12 years of playing warhammer I have never played a game against them.

**MeanGreenStompa**

What are these 'duckuldar' of which you speak? I have never encountered that race on the field of battle.

**SilverMK2**

My friend used to play them and used to do really well too.

Never played against his army though.

I am rather indifferent to them. At the moment, their models and fluff does not really grab me as much as those of other armies, so I don't think about them too much

**devilfluff**

Why can't I just "like" them?

Love is too strong a descriptor for my feelings.

**Che-Vito**

kuro_khan wrote:I don't actually hate the Dark Eldar, they're my favorite army, but I'm seeing a lot of anti-DE hate on the forums whenever we talk about wanting a new codex. I'm trying to find out why.

PLEASE no flaming . Just trying to understand people.

I like them, would play them if I could get ahold of some models, and think that they (and other 3rd Edition Codexes), should all be updated BEFORE anything else... (sorry Tyranids, IG, Vanilla Marines, and Chaos...)

**H.B.M.C.**

I'm indifferent.

Though I think the game is better with them than without them.

**Sarigar**

I just don't like most of the models.

**starbomber109**

It's not that I hate them, I actually like what their force looks like (tons of skimmers with lances! Air Force!) but their models are a big meh.

I guess I'm indiffrent, though I may try something foolish someday.

**ChristmasMarine**

I think its more been an argument of who deserves a new codex first, is where all the hate has been coming from.

Personally, I love the DE, but, as always, its just my opinion.

**JonnyDelta**

I don't know how to feel about them... i look at them and am confused by some of the strange new feelings i experience.

**Daba**

Fluffwise, they should have either been the cool Eldar Corsairs concept from Rogue Trader (complete with 80s hair) or straight out Chaos Eldar.

The current incarnation seems really badly done, and the concept could have been executed so much better.

Also, Eldar originally were all the High, Dark and Wood Elf concepts rolled into one, and they were cool like that (Howling Banshees were virtually Witch Elves in power armour when they were first introduced in 1st edition).

I don't dislike them strongly, but they seem to be a victim of bad decision making from the start.

**Horst**

I think many of their weapons are a bit overpowered. 100 point sniper squads are crazy good.

3 plasma cannon (basically) fast vehicles for heavy support are crazy good.

they were basically made to kill marines.....

**augustus5**

I really love the codex and the fluff for the DE.

I would certainly collect them if they had better models.

**Brother SRM**

I'm indifferent. If they got squatted, I wouldn't really care all that much. The only thing I fear is that if such a thing happens, there will be a veritable poopstorm from former DE players.

If they released new stuff, I'd be happy since there are undoubtedly people who've been playing them for more than a decade with the same ugly models. New toys for everyone!

**sleezesteve**

They're a good army and have a unique play style and backstory and fit well with the 40k universe. Their plastics are passable, they still really do need to be updated but please paint some pants on the bikers. It's the metal models that make the rest of them look awful, except the retinue guys whatever they're called.

**Forgotmytea**

I do like their backstory and style on the tabletop; in fact I used to collect them, only giving them up about a fortnight ago for their craftworld kin. It'd be a great shame if they did go the same way as the Squats, though. I think the main (only?) problem I have with them is the models. There's retro, and then there's they-need-new-sculpts-now ;-)

**JohnHwangDD**

If I knew for a fact that we'd get Admech and Chaos LatD in their place as new GEQs, I'd gladly see DE as the sacrificial lamb.

**Che-Vito**

JohnHwangDD wrote:If I knew for a fact that we'd get Admech and Chaos LatD in their place as new GEQs, I'd gladly see DE as the sacrificial lamb.

I'd love to see LatD come back, and a dedicated AdMech list, as well as Dark Eldar sticking around.
---Of course, I only advocate the creation of lists/armies for 5th Edition *after* all codexes have been updated to 5th.

**RxGhost**

I hate their fluff and models. If they were gone tomorrow I would not mourn their passing.

**RustyKnight**

I think their fluff is pretty meh, and they're possibly the most insignificant playable army in the game. I think the models are ugly as sin. As far as getting a new codex goes, I'm pretty indifferent. I'd hate for some players' armies to be squatted, but I'm not sure if there are enough players left to really merit a codex. I've only ever seen a real Dark Eldar army once in the past two years (I say real because my bro is dabbling with them, but he's had two Raiders and a Raider plus squad box sitting in shrinkwrap on his desk for several months now).

**Doombot001**

I've been wanting to see a Dark Eldar codex for years but nothing happens and I don't even PLAY DE.

I'm at the point now that GW should just squat em. There's no support for them, no new models, nothing. Squat them already. I like my idea of the Webway surrounding Comorragghhhhh collapses, sealing them from the galaxy.

There. Easy, wasn't it? Same thing like the Squats being eaten by a Tyranid fleet.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

I've never seen them, but I only started playing in July, so I guess thats a good reason. But I'm starting a DE army soon, I'm waiting for them in the mail still

I don't see anything wrong with them, their Codex is old, but it still kicks ass, so the codex isn't bad, when they make a new one, they should update some of the rules, put more fluff in, but keep their stats as they are. Models aren't great, but they're not THAT bad. I wouldn't mind if they got updated alittle.

If GW doesn't want to redo DE, they shouldn't Squat them, they can just bring out a modified version of their current codex, fixing instances of rules that no longer exist.

**Che-Vito**

Drk_Oblitr8r wrote:
If GW doesn't want to redo DE, they shouldn't Squat them, they can just bring out a modified version of their current codex, fixing instances of rules that no longer exist.

They've had about 8 million tweaks, changes, updates, etc... over time.
Compiling them all is a bit of work, but at the same time is quite worth it.

**FITZZ**

Dark Eldar were my first army,so I guess I have a "soft spot" for them.
Even though I no longer have that army,or any real interest in rebuilding another,I would honestly hate to see DE get "squated",simply becuase I don't want to see yet another group of gamers,who have invested much time and money get shafted by GW.

**Iron_Chaos_Brute**

They're old, and I hate that they haven't had an update.

**Shaman**

I like the dark eldar alot.. personally Id love to see the Inquistior armies squatted cause they are lame to me.

Grey Knights.. wow super space marines..

Deathwatch haha no codex

Sisters, power armor with tits.. lol.

Although for admech Id squat the whole eldar race and the above mentioned ][ armies.

**kuro_khan**

I'd like people to defend their choice of:
"I don't like the idea of Drow in space (despite the presence of Orks, Elves, Zombies, Ogres, etc...)"

Why can Orcs (Orks), Elves (Eldar), Zombies (Necrons), Ogres (Ogryn), Kobolds (sorta ratlings), and (reaching here) Tarraques (Carnifexs) have a place in the grim dark 40k universe, but no dark elves?