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...then why the hate for ultras? I could understand the hate if they were always in the spotlight, but if that's not the case then why?

Well we know that fantasy and lord of the rings just got big releases. We also know that means that the next big release should be a 40k release.
Releases have been going xenos-imperium-xenos-imperium as of late, the only anomaly being orks-daemons.
It is the 25th anniversary of 40k.

Going off of this I would make a guess at BT or DA being the next release for 40k, then may/june being another fantasy army for which I will say dwarves out of sheer random guessing, and august being the 6th ed drop with the starter kit coming out in October. Then that leaves vanilla marines and either BT/DA based on what wasn't done just before 6th and chaos and Tau.

For the record these are just guesses based on the current info swirling around the net.

Is it weird that, as a DA player, I don't want them coming out until after the 6th Ed SM book?

I just don't want to have all my cool new shiny toys completely made redundant by a new SM book (again...).

Ozymandias wrote:Is it weird that, as a DA player, I don't want them coming out until after the 6th Ed SM book?

I just don't want to have all my cool new shiny toys completely made redundant by a new SM book (again...).

I know that feeling. I came back to the game right after 5th came out, wasn't DA's the last 4th edtion book? Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Who is writing the DA Codex by the way?

Why oh why do update rumours have to contradict themselves so often? Black Templars are next! Tau is next! No they arent, Dark Angels are Next! Not quite, Eldar are next!
How is it that we find so much news and speculations from supposedly reliable sources and they always say "xxxxx" army is next while the next source says "yyyyy" army is next? Sure, I'd love to have Tau or Templars soon. We have been waiting a very long time for them. And from my experience, there are more people I know who play Tau and templar than DA. (Tau is a favourite among my gaming community) But whether or not you have waited longer shouldnt be what makes your army the next to update! I love reading rumours and leaks, I just want these "announcements" to not contradict eachother! Why must they torment me so?

ShottyScotty wrote: And from my experience, there are more people I know who play Tau and templar than DA. (Tau is a favourite among my gaming community) ?

I see this often. Who the heck is playing Templar? I have not seen a BT player in years. I go to any GW store in the OC area and I see tons of Dark Angel armies on display and being used as "Green Marines", but never a BT player. Friends from around the country report the same. Where is everyone going that has these damn BT players?

Tau I see a lot of though... they need an update.

H.B.M.C. wrote:As long as the Chaos Dread isn't only available in the starter kit (like Ork Deff Koptas are now)...

They have a separate Ork Deff Kopta currently...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440267a&prodId=prod1060174 (pic below)

It is 33$ though and for that price, if you want 3 then you might as well buy the AoBR. Or better yet, just split with a marine player...

Cyrax wrote:Who is writing the DA Codex by the way?

Every SM book released in this edition was written by Matt Ward.... The only exception was Space Wolves by Phil Kelly. So I'm going to take a wild guess that unless Matt Ward is writing the new edition, He's doing Dark Angles.

combatmedic wrote:

ShottyScotty wrote: And from my experience, there are more people I know who play Tau and templar than DA. (Tau is a favourite among my gaming community) ?

I see this often. Who the heck is playing Templar? I have not seen a BT player in years. I go to any GW store in the OC area and I see tons of Dark Angel armies on display and being used as "Green Marines", but never a BT player. Friends from around the country report the same. Where is everyone going that has these damn BT players?

Tau I see a lot of though... they need an update.

The point I was trying to put was that how long some one has been waiting for an update shouldnt be the reason for them to have an update. I just want the rumors to compliment each other and agree with each other, not contradict everything

From Harry on Warseer:

So me saying there was a Nid wave wasn't good enough for you then.

So Just to be clear.
I have not said that I seen Black Templar minis....
But let me just say BT sculpts have been done and have been done for over 18 months.
They are a bit special ... but then I heard they were done by Juan Diaz and Jes ... so they would be a bit special.
But just because they were done 18 months ago does not mean they are coming anytime soon.
There is so much stuff knocking around for 40K it is not even funny.
I suspect the stuff in the 40K starter set was done at least this long ago .... which may be why there are no new rumours about them.
The Skaven stuff in the Fantasy box set was done nearly 3 years before release.
I remember at the time all the rumours flying around about the which two armies would be in there and nonsense about last minute changes when the armies were set in stone years before.
The same will be true with this starter set.

Which I can not believe we are still discussing .....
If Hastings says it is Dark angels V's Chaos you can be pretty sure it is.
I would bet pie on it!

Oh ... and I posted ages ago to say that the Chaos codex would be the first codex of 6th edition.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?331538-Rumors-from-BoK-Release-schedule/page10

ShottyScotty wrote:Why oh why do update rumours have to contradict themselves so often? Black Templars are next! Tau is next! No they arent, Dark Angels are Next! Not quite, Eldar are next!
How is it that we find so much news and speculations from supposedly reliable sources and they always say "xxxxx" army is next while the next source says "yyyyy" army is next? Sure, I'd love to have Tau or Templars soon. We have been waiting a very long time for them. And from my experience, there are more people I know who play Tau and templar than DA. (Tau is a favourite among my gaming community) But whether or not you have waited longer shouldnt be what makes your army the next to update! I love reading rumours and leaks, I just want these "announcements" to not contradict eachother! Why must they torment me so?

The reality is that GW is all over the map. Nailing anything down is tough as they typically change their release dates often internally. It was my understanding that BT were next but my information came months ago meaning GW may have shifted things around. If it is more than 6 weeks out GW can change their mind heh.

No Chaos until Oct/Nov :(?

Revarien wrote:They have a separate Ork Deff Kopta currently...

I dunno if an ancient Gorkamorka model really counts.

Wait wasn't our sad excuse for a warbuggie a Gorkamorka era model also?

I don't care when it was from, it's one of the worst looking models in the game and I refuse to buy it.
Robogear to the rescue.

I agree 100%. Someone was actuall saying the buggie was a great looking model in the Tyranid rumer thread.

I think in regards to the starter box set is omg..omg..omg...omg.. full homer simpson style.

I'll start saving my £50 now!

feth, I wanted Black Templars. I even bought a bunch of BT stuff in anticipation. Oh well, guess I'll stick with the 4th edition 'dex...

BobTheChainsaw wrote:feth, I wanted Black Templars. I even bought a bunch of BT stuff in anticipation. Oh well, guess I'll stick with the 4th edition 'dex...

Did you actually read the last page or two?

Rumor roundup is this:

BT: new dex, but not in starter set.

DA: in starter box, but no new dex.

Also, you need to watch your language (the filter catches the curse word, but it is visible when you are being quoted).

A starter kit full of marines and guardsmen, count me in! Time to get out the spike remover and get 'a choppin!

d-usa wrote:

Did you actually read the last page or two?

Rumor roundup is this:

BT: new dex, but not in starter set.

DA: in starter box, but no new dex.

d-usa, thank you. I was annoyed after I read the update to the OP, and didn't read any of the more recent comments. You have saved me days of frustration

d-usa wrote:

BobTheChainsaw wrote:feth, I wanted Black Templars. I even bought a bunch of BT stuff in anticipation. Oh well, guess I'll stick with the 4th edition 'dex...

Did you actually read the last page or two?

Rumor roundup is this:

BT: new dex, but not in starter set.

DA: in starter box, but no new dex.

Also, you need to watch your language (the filter catches the curse word, but it is visible when you are being quoted).

I went out and bought 5 upgrade boxes of BT myself, finally able to spend the cash to do so and finally setting down on a SM chapter I love. Maybe Crimson Fists as a second chapter. I'm totally lost on the rumors now though-I thought DA was now next, and BT was no longer a happening thing (in the near future). Time to go back and look at changes...sigh...still want my BT now...

And to the guys saying they haven't seen BT players-I play BT. Come to the middle of New York, and you'll find a BT player! Lol. Idk how many more of us there are, but I play em and love em!

edit-I went back and looked at the first post-it says DA/Fallen in April-ish, and BT won't be til after Chaos (which hits in the fall). So...not sure where you're getting the information in the first page saying BT is getting the new dex-it ain't happening for a while

Maybe this confession is also of importance

ghost21 wrote:I made It up,I wont be posting any more

Kroothawk wrote:Maybe this confession is also of importance

ghost21 wrote:I made It up,I wont be posting any more

Which part did he make up? I think you have to be more specific, Kroot... lol

Well, this was a small post in the thread titled "The credibility of the current wave of rumours ", started when Hastings said 80% of current rumours are deliberately made up and that's the reason why he stopped posting rumours. So have a guess

From the links provided it looks like our more reliable rumor-source stated that the schedule should look something like this:

One codex prior to 6th Edition being released. (Keep in mind that the release of 6th edition is a separate event from the release of the 6th Edition boxed set). Looks like the more relieable rumors point towards Black Templars for this release. Models and codex both if the rumors can be believed.

The started box includes Dark Angels and Chaos (rumors pointing to a CSM/Cultists/Renegate mix). Dark Angels will probably get some new models in the box at least, not sure about any rumors for a whole wave. No new codex for DA though.

First codex after 6th Edition launch (so possibly after the launch of the rules, but before the launch of the box or at the same time as the box) should be the new Chaos Codex then. We have had various rumors of having 3 Chaos Codices (CSM/Traitor Guard/Daemons) similar to WFB (Warrior/Beastmen/Deamons) but personally if the box-set has both CSM and Cultitst then I think we will have one big codex.

That seems to be the rumor roundup as far as I know it. Of course tomorrow it oculd be different.

We currently have two rumor threads talking about the same thing, so the news are kind of fragmented. If you look through the "White Dwarf Picture" Thread you can find some more of the rumors that are from the more reliable source. That might help clear up some confusion.

Ah, I'll jump back over there. I'd much rather have BT next, believe me. Especially since my friend JUST got his Necrons updated, he doesn't need his DA updated as the very next codex!! I haven't actually had a codex update since I got into the game-each army took place after its codex came out. Oh, except my fantasy orcs. Yeah...that's the only army I have that got an update since I picked it up.

Is the starter box actually "confirmed" or is it "confirmed" by rumor-mongers.

Why dont they just put the damn lame Marine codex in the damn BRB.... That way we can at lerast start the ball rolling on armies that actually NEED a new codex.... IE: Most armies OTHER than a space marine Sub chapter etc....