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less then a day left, vect taking the lead on this one.

also.... *bump*

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

King Pariah wrote:Maybe best HQ Entourage for the next one?

Does that include the HQ character that goes with them?

A full Necron Royal Court is an obscene thing. Not sure what other entourage can take it.

SoulGazer wrote:

Lord Rogukiel wrote:

King Pariah wrote:Maybe best HQ Entourage for the next one?

Does that include the HQ character that goes with them?

A full Necron Royal Court is an obscene thing. Not sure what other entourage can take it.

Damn, you caught me.

vect wins match 4. next, abbadon vrs grimaldus.

i dont really use grimaldus... but ive heard abbadon is just a beast. since im not familiar with eithers rules, ill sit my opinion out on this one.

Abbadon hands down, he is a CC monster.

Ran the mathhammer, Abaddon kicks the crap out of the G-man most of the time. I did lose the will to live around the 4 bonus attacks though. They're a pain in the butt to work out.

polls opened

I'm torn now. I suggested Grimmy but I know Failaddon will kick the crap out of him like 80% of the time...

Decisions, decisions...

I vote Eliphas the Inheritor

In all seriousness, this shouldn't even be a contest. Failbaddon the Armless will krump Grimmy like there's no tomorrow

As much as I love Grimaldus, he doesn't compare. He's a terrible unit. Abbaddon wins. Waay too much instant death for that 4+ invuln to hold off...

But he can get back up.... and if you allocate properly then he only take 1 wound to save. But even so, he certainly needs a buff.

last couple of hours.... looks like abbadon has this one well in hand.


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abbadon wins this one.

mephiston and sanguinor are next.

Any thoughts on this one? I think sanguinor might have a little edge due to his getting back up fun, but meph is also pretty hardcore as well.

I rather like the Sanguinor for this one.

Mathwise, the Sanguinor should take this. Transfixing Gaze doesn't affect him, and he can reroll all failed hits and wounds on Mephiston.

The more Mephiston uses his Psy powers, the greater chance he has of periling himself as well.

I'd have to give this to the Sanguinor, but it would be a loooong fight, thanks to them both having a 2+.

The Crusader wrote:But he can get back up.... and if you allocate properly then he only take 1 wound to save. But even so, he certainly needs a buff.

Little late but...

With Grimaldus, he only gets back up once, then he's done. He's not like Celestine or Thawn. If he was, it might be different.

As for Sanguinor vs Mephiston.

Sanguinor is meant to kill characters. It's what he does, and he does it rather well. I'm going to have to go with him on this one.

Amanax wrote:

The Crusader wrote:But he can get back up.... and if you allocate properly then he only take 1 wound to save. But even so, he certainly needs a buff.

Little late but...

With Grimaldus, he only gets back up once, then he's done. He's not like Celestine or Thawn. If he was, it might be different.

As for Sanguinor vs Mephiston.

Sanguinor is meant to kill characters. It's what he does, and he does it rather well. I'm going to have to go with him on this one.

Under 5th edition rules the Sanguinor and Mephy usually go toe to toe. Not much in it, but The Sanguinor does come out slightly on top overall.

I'm not sure about 6th edition rules now. I think anyone with a powerfist or thunderhammer in terminator armour could give The Sanguonor a good beating now that powerswords have been nerfed.

DarthOvious wrote:

Amanax wrote:

The Crusader wrote:But he can get back up.... and if you allocate properly then he only take 1 wound to save. But even so, he certainly needs a buff.

Little late but...

With Grimaldus, he only gets back up once, then he's done. He's not like Celestine or Thawn. If he was, it might be different.

As for Sanguinor vs Mephiston.

Sanguinor is meant to kill characters. It's what he does, and he does it rather well. I'm going to have to go with him on this one.

Under 5th edition rules the Sanguinor and Mephy usually go toe to toe. Not much in it, but The Sanguinor does come out slightly on top overall.

I'm not sure about 6th edition rules now. I think anyone with a powerfist or thunderhammer in terminator armour could give The Sanguonor a good beating now that powerswords have been nerfed.

Possibly, but these battles are taking place in fifth edition rules

The Sanguinor gets this one by the tip of its nose. It's kinda close but at the end of the day, the Sanguinor comes out on top.

Not so sure about Mephiston's rules, but I think the Sanguinor should get this one, considering he Needs 3's to hit, 3's to wound with 5 attacks, and gets to reroll all failed hits and wounds.
Also, Sanguinor is fluffwise meant to be the epitome of Blood-Angelness, so gonna have to vote for him.
Speaking of voting, is it just me or has the poll not gone up yet?

I'm curious why Lelith hesperax isn't in any of the listings, her rules means she's liable to have 8 attacks + on most of the people listed and offers no armour saves at an int 9 ws9 o.o

Sasa0mg wrote:I'm curious why Lelith hesperax isn't in any of the listings, her rules means she's liable to have 8 attacks + on most of the people listed and offers no armour saves at an int 9 ws9 o.o

I'm not too familiar with Lilith's stats, but isn't she only s3 t3?

If that's the case, some of the heavy hitters in here would be able to simply shrug most of her hits before even considering an invul save. If they start at range, a good shot may just kill her outright. That'd be my guess... still it's odd she's not up there.

she is but she does have a 4+ invuln and very few actual characters go beyond toughness 5 at best. for most there toughnss 4.

Thats hitting on 3's for most, 4's-5's for pretty much everyone running with about 8 attacks on average with no armour saves. If at least 3-4 connecting with wounds in a single turn, rather possible would make her enough to be pretty well positioned within the list I would have thought. Not to mention she counts as having a shard net and impaler which reduces her opponents attacks by 1 in the process.

So her profile without charging is 5 attacks +1 atk per difference in weapon skill, no saves allowed, -1 attack to enemey anda 4+ invuln at I9

xD has got to place her somewhere in that list

The reason why she's not up there is a) didn't get nominated or b) didn't get enough votes to participate in the deadliest character showdown.

yea check page one for all the nominated characters and their final talleys for making into the competetion.

as for polls, trying out a diffierent aspect then last round, that has a few days of discussion before hand to hash out the mathhammer and whatnot. will probally just default to opening poll right away for the next one, and perhaps just making the poll go for 5 days instead of 3. but for now, since this is how we started its how we shall finish.

(as a side note, yea lillith has a ton of attacks, but her low str means she wounds on 5+ with most things, 6+ on t5 or better, and has virtually no shot vrs MC. combined with her own t3, and no EW - she gets one shotted by pretty much just about everyone out there either by range or melee.)


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polls opened

only 4 votes so far...would like to see a few more votes on this one.

Voted Sanguinor.

Sanguinor wins this match,

next up, Draigo vrs Celestine!

let the debate begin...

This is a really interesting match up. On one hand you have draigo, mister beat stick himself. On the other, you have an initiative 7 character who doesn't reliably die.

Here's a question for you, because this makes a difference. ARe you just aiming to kill celestine once, or does she have unlimited turns to get back up?

she follows normal rules. so if she goes down, gets a chance to return, as often as needed. once that fails shes done. the same would apply to any other character with a chance to return to the fight. you dont win untill you win, and a win requires the other guy staying down.