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in my small gaming community things got alittle out of control and it has ended up that we are now going to play a game of 3 players (Orks, Chaos Marins and Tau) against 1 player (Blood Angels). It will be a 6000 point game meaning my team (im Orks) get 2000 points each and Mark (shredhead gets 6000) he gets 6 HQ 6 Elite 12 Troops 6 Fast Attack and 6 heavy support.

I was wondering who you all think has the advantage the guy on his own who doesnt have to debate with his team mates at all and can make his decissions as the game unfolds or the 3 of us who each have diferent armies and styles of play which in turn means he has to make 3 diferent battle plans and 3 difernt brains.

both Mark and Kenny (kendomasta) are undefeated tho when they have played in the past it has finished on a draw and the chances are it will turn into a grudge match.

I have the advantage. Always have. Always will. Cos i am the best.

moving to 40K discussions as its more appropriate.

That really depends on the lists, if you want the upper hand get together with your teammates and make lists that complement each other.

Edit: Making the pool multyple choice dosen't make much sense now does it

With the right setups, the blood angels are screwed. Each of those three armies has at least two counters to any blood angels list, and with them acting in unison just spells doom for the blood angels.

Railguns on the tanks, cover removing before hand if need be
Chaos with their excellent troops and CC units, plus Lashing units around always fixes issues
Orks with their numbers, hidden power claws, ect ect.

The blood angels player can't really compete that well and most of his forces just won't get into melee or get charged instead.

i think that the chaos/orks/tau have the advangtange because they will have more variety in the army. the chaos/orks can do great things in cc and the tau and blast them to peices from afar.

ye i agree Epil. i have experience fighting against chaos an tua when i was IG... i got wasted, but im rubbish anyway lol

I'm assuming the BA guy has to fill out 3 separate, 2000-pt FOCs, so he might lose a few more points here and there.

Anyhow, triple-BA vs Chaos, Tau, and Orks should make for an interesting game of Apoc.

Why not play as an APOC game?

Apoc or no, I think this problem comes down to the number of sanguinary priest/assault troops units he decides to spam.

It could be a really fun game, if the 3 of you coordinate your lists you could really wreck the BA.
For example you could take Ghazzy and 1775 points of ork boys (8x30 w/ pk nobs basically), bam you already have the numbers to absorb a ton of BA.
Tau fills your gap of ranged tankbusting, so could pack in as many markerlights and railguns as possible, and fill out with crisis suits fitted for anti-meq.
CSM should take 2x lash princes to compliment the ork horde probably. moving hostiles closer into assault range will be key. Aside from that they can bring some solid CC units and pack everything in rhinos to fill in gaps on the map as needed.

Please take pics and do a battle report! Just thinking of the game that it would be has me excited!

I agree, take pics and do a battle rep.

One would think that the variety you guys have should give you the upper hand. I mean youve got the Tau, who are great at shooting, Orks who are fantastic at CC as well as numbers, and the CSM are pretty solid troops to boot. So play to your strengths in the extreme, and you guys SHOULD come out on top.

I think the Coalition have the advantage, mainly for the reasons above; variety!

Tell your CSM to spam LoS & Vindicators!

Coalition forces most definately have the advantage. They have the tools for each job needed (assault, counter assault and heavy firepower).

I firmly believe that orks allied to IG is one of the best alliances you can form in a 40k battle.

Orks and Tau being another. Orks suck at shooting while Tau suck at assaulting kind of evens them out. CSM add durability to them. BA might win, but it might be pretty even.

chances are the game wont happen because all 4 of us work at the same company so we have 9 hours every day to jist bicker and argue lol but if it does i will do my best to write a battle report

having played a couple simliar scenario games i can tell you the lone commander certainly has the advantage. A single max squad of Death Company with a chaplain in tow can murder an ork army all on it's own, Baal preds can be in the tau lines before the tau have even shot and spammed sanguinary guard + the sanguinor + jump pack librarians will not only lock down lash but pummel nearly anything chaos can produce.

Yes the 3 can synergize their list building to give them an advantage but so can the blood angel player, with 6000 points to play with there is alot of ridiculous he could pull off just imagine astorath and 150 death guard with chaplains and he would still have like 2000 points to play with

Your team sounds like its full of ego (so won't work together) so I gave it to the blood angels.

Totally pointless though without more info.

Since its still multiple choice i voted all three

+1 for do a report

You should play realistic communications. The coalition commanders can only communicate by writing notes to each other on a small piece of paper at the start of each turn.

"Those blasted orks have dismantled the radio we gave them?! Jenkins! You're now a runner!"

You don't want to know what the noise marines did with theirs.

i like the notes idae sounds fun.

what sort of info would you like, shaman?

I vote for the coalition.
Orks alone can spam so many crap at 2000 that BA won't get to charge so easily. Every Broadside team can have their own 30 bodies surrounding and protecting them.

Plus if their FOC is normal they get to pick 6 Troops, 3 Elite, Fast and HS slots more then he does.. That is alotta fungus, fish and rotten crap!

Besides I love alliances and I'm biased. Go team freaks (I mean come on, those three working together is just not a everyday sight )!

Another +1 for report from here!

3 heads are better than 1. Units will be used in tandem and to a plan that will crush captin loophole and his Blood fairies ha ha.

3 heads can easily have 2 of them fighting each other...

Tau - Epic Firepower, bad CC
Ork - bad Firepower, Epic CC

that alone if used correctly should be able to kill just about everything.

The CSM will be great as a hunter killer role, killing anything the others cant deal with as well as a extra strong sheild for the tau or a very pointy strong spearhead for the orks

I would agree with the person who said that if the coalition can coordinate properly that it has an edge. If they can't agree on a tactic (and choose a good one) they will lose. With a 6k list that large they can specialise units for each enemy. But even with that the 3 army side will have more options to diversify into and 1 army codex to fight against.

Info would of been like.. say

My gaming group are all WAAC.

We all have the resources to make a variety of lists.

The coalition team are guys that get along together. And plan to coordinate to table BA guy.

Then I'd say group has it.. If the opposite the BA guy.

But it is rare that a group battle works well together. especially with the number 3.

Easy BA have a huge advantage simply because they don't have tau on their side and their army list is almost as good as Space Wolves.

I voted CSM/Ork/Tau simply because they can have so much more variety. If they build lists to compliment each other they shouldnt have too much grief.

Im gonna break the mold and say the BA have the advantage....

Force multipliers, the BAs force multipliers spread across his entire army, Sangy Priests effect every unit on his side of the field, Astorath giving all 6000 points the 50% chance for FnP/FC. where as the KFF bigmek only helps the orks, etc.