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praetor24 wrote:Just called in FW's customer's support asking if there are any more Termies coming soon (for the Open Day and the Salute events). They told me that there won't be any (apart the Tartaros' ones), BUT we should be expecting more Marines releases for the Salute.

More Marine stuff by FW? Shocker!

I dunno, I think they're okay. Not amazing or anything, though.

Not a fan, but at least the armpits are lower than the chin on these.

I like these, and am considering buying a squad, except I already own 5 regular Terminators plus a full Space Hulk set, so I really cannot justify the expense.

Cant see FW at work

Can someone post a pic of them?

ph34r wrote:Giant silly storm bolters that look like billy age 12's first conversion where he slams two bolters together to make a storm bolter, or puts his rhino's pintle SB on a terminator to look "cool". I can't even give this a "just 'cause" because it looks awful.

That's because the probably are two bolters smushed together ie. a Combi-Bolter ie. what Terminators had before the Storm Bolter was developed.

These are late Great Crusade designs, so Combi-Bolters makes perfect sense.


And they're not planning another pattern of Termy armour? Then what does this bit mean:

Perhaps the most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnought Armour, the Tartaros pattern shares many systems with the MkIV ‘Maximus’ pattern of power armour, and provides greater mobility for its wearer than the Indomitus pattern with no loss in durability or protection.

Unless that's what they're calling regular Termy armour.

The general style and look is good. High tech feel and smooth lines, but their stance still bothers me. The legs are still too far apart.

Still better than the godawful current plastic terminators though - their legs are splayed so far apart that I reckon they'd dislocate their hips while going for a stroll.


Edit,

Nah. I'm out. The more I look at them the more I don't want them. I really do want to like them. Cotemptor look - good. Weapons - good. Just the stance. God the stance. They look far to posed, like they are doing star-jumps or similar. One even looks he's going dancing. Come on FW. I've always liked what you've done in terms of poses and keeping things to roughly the same scale. Keeping human proportions and movement all relative. But with these, I'd have to suspend a lot of disbelief!

Wonder if we can get a look at the components? Maybe if they are quite modular in assembling, you can assemble them in a bit more of a anatomically correct (and comfortable) pose.

Since they mention the Indomitus is the most common pattern, I can only imagine it refers to the GW standard.

I wonder why GW and FW designers seem to be dead set on making Marines stand in ridculous splayed poses. Must be some kind of design bible they must all adhere to.

I love them. Probably also due to the link with mark 4 power armour.

Each to their own. I like them, but would prefer to consider them a refinement of terminator armour and not a prototype.

Space marine armour is one of the few things where later designs look more advanced than earlier. I would like to think of these suits as very new rather than very old.

We already had prototype terminator armour released before and IIRC it looked very crude.

Orlanth wrote:Each to their own. I like them, but would prefer to consider them a refinement of terminator armour and not a prototype.

Now you've got me thinking about how cool it'd be if FW made the Mk.XIII Power Armour from the Dornian Heresy booklet.

Uhhhhhh.... Wtf......

Just when I was on a very long FW can do no wrong stint... These are pretty horrid IMHO... I love contemptors, but I find the nearly perfect match scaled down chest odd and lazy on a non- dread... Arms are sticking out of his ribs, the dont seem to have changed the torso height too so it went from head in chest termie look to this lol. Legs relatively ok with, but just look like slightly bulked pa. I am ok with the combi bolter/storm bolter look, just think it is a bit mis- scaled...

My worst gripes though are the back and the shoulder pads. The pads are in fact smaller looking than regular PA! This reall makes them awkward to the marine aesthetic IMO... And that backpack is so poorly executed and integrated it looks like he is trying to shoplift a mkiv pack out under his shirt....

Very underwhelming or me... Although I should be thankful, it's the fist time in a while I will be able to resist the siren call of fw!

I like them. It makes the contemptor fit better to the overall look. FW makes it hard not to do a pre heresy army. Must resist...

I... actually quite like these. Not sure if I would run with several Termies of this pattern but a few scattered in and out would look great.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

ph34r wrote:Giant silly storm bolters that look like billy age 12's first conversion where he slams two bolters together to make a storm bolter, or puts his rhino's pintle SB on a terminator to look "cool". I can't even give this a "just 'cause" because it looks awful.

That's because the probably are two bolters smushed together ie. a Combi-Bolter ie. what Terminators had before the Storm Bolter was developed.

These are late Great Crusade designs, so Combi-Bolters makes perfect sense.

Combi bolters make sense. Obviously.

Taking two bolters and sticking them together was not a successful way to accomplish this.

Look at the HH art book combi bolters. Pretty cool right? Every depiction has their combi-bolters as a more crude "double bolter" design, yet similar in size to a storm bolter. Why? Because two full on bolters strapped together looks stupid as hell. Their limp wristed shoulder pads don't help the matter.

Not a fan here either, first FW model for ages that i really do not like.
£36 seems a bit much for five termies that have less detail than the standard ones to me, i think i will stick to the plastics.

In two minds about these.

The upper half look good and the storm bolters look ace!

The legs however, they look terrible.

I think FW is struggling a bit at the moment. The preheresy Marine stuff is technically adequate, but is really adding little that is really new and adventurous. They are playing it safe, if that makes any sense.

This is just as bad as trying to make a Star Wars pre-quel.

For those who may not have started with this company, they are re-releasing the stuff we used to play with, except 5x the price.

This fascination with pre-heresy stuff has worked for GW I guess. I'm not a fan of these bubble terminators or the bubble dreadnought either.

Mini contemptors?

I'll wait till they make other terminator marks

Point of clarification: Terminator Armor always has been called, properly but rarely, called "Tactical Dreadnought armor". This is not new or different.

I don't like contemptors too much, so I guess that's why I don't like these either.

Ouze wrote:Point of clarification: Terminator Armor always has been called, properly but rarely, called "Tactical Dreadnought armor". This is not new or different.

That may be true but I think FW took that to the logical extreme

The biggest thing that kills it for me is the utter and total disregard for how anyone but a headless gorilla would fit inside that armor.

At least with the normal terminators you could maybe imagine someone standing hunched over in the suit taking advantage of the forward put face. With these things there's utterly no way with the head being placed in the 'center' of the suit.

Forge World Newsletter #300


Hi there,
With the Forge World Open Day only a few days away, we can now reveal details of a brand new Space Marine release that will be available to buy at the event; the Tartaros Pattern Terminator Squad. This detailed, multi-part resin kit is available to pre-order now and will be on sale in limited numbers at the Forge World Open Day on Sunday 1st April – and that’s no joke!

Tartaros Pattern Terminator Squad



Tartaros Pattern Terminators: Tactical Dreadnought Armour, or Terminator Armour as it is more usually known, is the most resilient form of personal protection available to the Adeptus Astartes. Originally developed during the closing years of the Great Crusade, and adapted from the heaviest of industrial gear, several types and patterns were developed concurrently.

Of these, the Indomitus pattern is perhaps the most widespread, due to its template being held on key Forge Worlds such as Mars, although Tartaros Pattern Terminator armour is also issued to the Veterans of a Chapter’s 1st Company.

Perhaps the most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnought Armour, the Tartaros pattern shares many systems with the MkIV ‘Maximus’ pattern of power armour, and provides greater mobility for its wearer than the Indomitus pattern with no loss in durability or protection.

The Tartaros Pattern Terminators set, designed by Will Hayes, is a full resin kit that comprises five Terminators, armed with power fists, a power sword, storm bolters, a heavy flamer and enough optional attachments to arm four Space Marines with chainfists. This detailed squad will be available to purchase in limited numbers at the Forge World Open Day on Sunday 1st April, and is also available to pre-order now for despatch from 10th April.

Forge World Events News:
Forge World Open Day, 1st April, Warhammer World, Nottingham

As you can’t fail to have noticed, this coming Sunday is the annual Forge World Open Day and we’re making our final preparations. There’s still time to place a reservation order, so if you want to make sure that we have the exact models you’re after packed and waiting for you, please call the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995.

We’ve got several exciting newsletters lined up for the countdown to the Open Day, so stay tuned to your e-mail for more details

AdeptiCon 2012, 19th to 22nd April, Westin Lombard Yorktown Center, Chicago
Forge World will again be attending AdeptiCon this year, and we are still accepting reservation orders for this popular event. While we will be bringing a huge selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling products, placing a reservation order is the best way to ensure that we have exactly what you want packed up and waiting for you at the show.

You can either telephone us on 011 44 115 900 4995, or send an e-mail entitled ‘AdeptiCon 2012 Reservation’ to forgeworldreservations@games-workshop.co.uk. We will need your name, a list of the items that you wish to order, and a contact e-mail address for yourself by Monday 2nd April.

In the week prior to the event, we will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable, and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event.

Salute 2012, 21st April, ExCel, London
While some of our intrepid staff are across the pond in the Windy City, others of Forge World will be journeying to London’s ExCel centre for Salute 2012. We’ll be bringing a wide selection of our range of books, resin kits and modelling supplies, but due to the limited space that we have available at this event we recommend you places a reservation order to ensure we have exactly what you want, packed and waiting for you.

As with all our UK shows, Salute reservation orders are pre-paid to make the collection process quicker and easier, leaving you with more time to enjoy the rest of the event.

Please telephone the Customer Service team on 0115 900 4995 to place a reservation order. We will require your name, contact telephone number and e-mail address along with the list of products you wish to reserve, and you will need your card details to hand. We’ll need to receive your Salute reservation by Tuesday 17th April, and we’ll process the payment while you are on the phone. In the week before the event you’ll receive a confirmation e-mail containing your order number. This is your proof of payment, and you must bring this e-mail with you to claim your order.

Thanks,
Ead Brown
Customer Service Manager
Forge World

.... meh.

I like them. Then again, I'll have less of an issue with their size as my army is made up of the original beakie marines... which are much smaller than any of the current models. I bet these guys are on-par with the original metal terminators... which are considerably smaller than the current plastic ones. The facing up thigh plates are just stupid (as armor goes), but that can easily be remedied and turned into something more intelligent.

Gitsplitta wrote:I like them. Then again, I'll have less of an issue with their size as my army is made up of the original beakie marines... which are much smaller than any of the current models. I bet these guys are on-par with the original metal terminators... which are considerably smaller than the current plastic ones.

Check the comparison picture in the first post, these Terminators are about the same size as the plastic ones.

I was going to say "pre-heresy" but they have the aquilla on them which was added to SM armor after the dust settled and most of chaos was driven into the Eye. Still, that stormbolter is definately "retro" enough to be called pre-heresy.

Any one else think forge world is kinda dropping the ball on their new models? I didn't much care for their new dread, Or these models. Maybe its just a personal opinion.

Not a fan. I could see it as some form of specialized armor variant, but not terminator armor.