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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:08:44
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Forgeworld added the new Tartartos pattern Terminator armour to their site:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/TARTAROS_PATTERN_TERMINATOR_ARMOUR.html
Matches the Condemptor Dreadnoughts pretty well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:16:43
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Plastictrees
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I think they look alright. Not all that special. Sword and heavy flamer are pretty cool though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:17:15
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Mini contemptor dreads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:22:09
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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Well that's... not what people would have expected from Pre-Heresy Terminators.
I honestly don't like them. They just look like up-armoured Marines, not like proto-Terminators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:28:26
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Very much an anti-fan here. They look worse than normal terminators in my opinion. Not surprising that they gave them a "relatively" low price point, I doubt they would sell at "premium" pricing. Too many of their design features scream "just cause". Power cutlass? just 'cause Thigh armor hangs up instead of down for no reason? Just 'cause Leg armor looks like two cylinders stuck together with blobby feet that have less detail than the plastic kit? Just 'cause Tiny ass weird shoulder pads? Just 'cause Giant silly storm bolters that look like billy age 12's first conversion where he slams two bolters together to make a storm bolter, or puts his rhino's pintle SB on a terminator to look "cool". I can't even give this a "just 'cause" because it looks awful. Weird back power plant thing? Wtf is going on here? Why would you design this that way? They took terminator armor, looked at the back and said "this looks too normal. what if we jammed a whole fething mk4 backpack in there so it sticks out with a bunch of cables and crap" Mk4 helmets in terminator armor? Cool. Collared terminator armor? Cool. Both at the same time? fething slowed. Those helmets cannot turn in there. The "proportion fail" is HORRIBLY obvious with these models. The kit includes the "never include" option of heavy flamer, so in reality this kit contains 4 full terminators. The torso connection is flat and contains a million cables which means it's hard to lift to relieve the "awful proportions" problem, and oh, you can't make your terminators posed in any direction other than "hurr durr straight ahead arms wide to the side" The torsos look cool. The crotch armor looks cool. The greaves look cool aside from the upper legs and feet. The PFs look cool and the shoulder pads were so close to looking cool. I give this kit a 6.5/10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:28:54
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They're fairly small. I'd expect them to be even bulkier than the modern terminators.
I'm fairly ambivalent about them tbh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:29:22
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I really do not like them.
They just do not have the bulk that a Terminator should have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:30:07
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Plastictrees
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Well that's... not what people would have expected from Pre-Heresy Terminators.
I honestly don't like them. They just look like up-armoured Marines, not like proto-Terminators.
I dont think that these will be/ are suppose to be the pre-heresy Terminators.
FW does a rather good job sticking to existing artwork when it comes to pre-heresy stuff.
Looking back at some of the art though ... the pre-heresy dread labelled pics to show the contemptor though, so maybe you are in fact right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:30:26
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Krazed Killa Kan
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H.B.M.C., I don't see them as "pre heresy".. the FW blurb says the "most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnaught Armor".
Is TDA a pre-heresy thing, or is that simply the formal name of Terminator Armor?
Edit: ninjad by a lot, whups..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:32:00
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Not feeling them, but I like the storm bolters (I suppose twin-linked bolter is more accurate) a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:32:39
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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I really like that TDA. Still not as nice as Kabalite armour
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:32:39
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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porkuslime wrote:H.B.M.C., I don't see them as "pre heresy".. the FW blurb says the "most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnaught Armor".
Is TDA a pre-heresy thing, or is that simply the formal name of Terminator Armor?
Edit: ninjad by a lot, whups..
It's just the formal name, nothing new.
I don't think these are supposed to be pre-heresy either, but that doesn't stop them from looking bad for whatever they're supposed to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:34:25
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Calculating Commissar
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TDA is the full name for Terminator armour. From the description these are one of the pre-heresy TDA types... so potentially there are more coming
I kinda like them... kinda. The legs look a bit weird, but I do like the torsos and heads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:34:57
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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porkuslime wrote:H.B.M.C., I don't see them as "pre heresy".. the FW blurb says the "most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnaught Armor".
Is TDA a pre-heresy thing, or is that simply the formal name of Terminator Armor?
Edit: ninjad by a lot, whups..
TDA is the "formal" name. And pre-heresy would always be "the most advanced stuff", since it came from "before" Imperial Technology started to regress, the era of Imperial Jet-Bikes and whatnot...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:35:51
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Perhaps the most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnought Armour, the Tartaros pattern shares many systems with the MkIV ‘Maximus’ pattern of power armour, and provides greater mobility for its wearer than the Indomitus pattern with no loss in durability or protection.
Can these sweeping advance?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:36:47
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Yep, but your 3+ save on 2d6 gets downgraded to a 4+.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:38:01
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Contemptornators! I quite like them! While they do not match my idea of the big, cumbersome termie of now, they seem a little more realistic compared to today's. Those complaining about proportions, compared to what?! They are at least the same if not better proportioned than the plastics.
Darn you FW, another thing to add to the ever-growing basket of stuff!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:40:17
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Commander Cain wrote:Contemptornators! I quite like them! While they do not match my idea of the big, cumbersome termie of now, they seem a little more realistic compared to today's. Those complaining about proportions, compared to what?! They are at least the same if not better proportioned than the plastics.
Darn you FW, another thing to add to the ever-growing basket of stuff!
The thing is that with the normal terminators, they are so far from form fitting or normal marine armor that it's harder to recognize how bad the proportions are.
With these, the similarities to marine armor are stronger, and it's way easier to notice how goofily small his torso must be to fit between those giant tubes of thighs and his standard SM helmet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:45:00
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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Forgeworld
Tactical Dreadnought Armour, or Terminator Armour as it is more usually known, is the most resilient form of personal protection available to the Adeptus Astartes. Originally developed during the closing years of the Great Crusade, and adapted from the heaviest of industrial gear, several types and patterns were developed concurrently.
Of these, the Indomitus pattern is perhaps the most widespread, due to its template being held on key Forge Worlds such as Mars, although Tartaros Pattern Terminator armour is also issued to the Veterans of a Chapter’s 1st Company. Perhaps the most advanced form of Tactical Dreadnought Armour, the Tartaros pattern shares many systems with the MkIV ‘Maximus’ pattern of power armour, and provides greater mobility for its wearer than the Indomitus pattern with no loss in durability or protection.
The Tartaros Pattern Terminators set, models designed by Will Hayes, is a full resin kit that comprises five Terminators, armed with power fists, a power sword, storm bolters, a heavy flamer and enough optional attachments to arm four Space Marines with chainfists.
Please note that these models are not compatible with our range of Terminator Shoulder Pads.
This detailed squad will be available to purchase in limited numbers at the Forge World Open Day on Sunday 1st April, and is also available to pre-order now for despatch from 10th April.
So yes, this kit is not pre-heresy, simply a more agile variant of the normal TDA. I have to say, the models seem to match this description perfectly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:45:14
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like 'em, but then I'm a massive fan of Mk IV armour.
If they come out with a CC variant, my Salamanders army will gain a squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:46:23
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Really don't like them. But I can see a conversion using their torsos and legs and arms from the plastic terminators potentially looking sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:47:44
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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I like this is pretty cool if i got any i would make them a bit taller with placticard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:47:51
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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ph34r wrote:Commander Cain wrote:Contemptornators! I quite like them! While they do not match my idea of the big, cumbersome termie of now, they seem a little more realistic compared to today's. Those complaining about proportions, compared to what?! They are at least the same if not better proportioned than the plastics.
Darn you FW, another thing to add to the ever-growing basket of stuff!
The thing is that with the normal terminators, they are so far from form fitting or normal marine armor that it's harder to recognize how bad the proportions are.
With these, the similarities to marine armor are stronger, and it's way easier to notice how goofily small his torso must be to fit between those giant tubes of thighs and his standard SM helmet.
Oh I never said that they were well proportioned! Simply not as bad as I had expected they would be
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:48:57
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Calculating Commissar
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Commander Cain wrote:Originally developed during the closing years of the Great Crusade,
So yes, this kit is not pre-heresy, simply a more agile variant of the normal TDA. I have to say, the models seem to match this description perfectly!
Think you'll find that the Great Crusade was *before* the Horus Heresy... which makes it one of the Pre-Heresy TDA variants
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:52:50
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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endtransmission wrote:Commander Cain wrote:Originally developed during the closing years of the Great Crusade,
So yes, this kit is not pre-heresy, simply a more agile variant of the normal TDA. I have to say, the models seem to match this description perfectly!
Think you'll find that the Great Crusade was *before* the Horus Heresy... which makes it one of the Pre-Heresy TDA variants 
I was under the impression that it was talking about TDA in general with the first paragraph...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:56:14
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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At first glance, I quite like them. They'll make a decent Terminator command squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:56:56
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just called in FW's customer's support asking if there are any more Termies coming soon (for the Open Day and the Salute events). They told me that there won't be any (apart the Tartaros' ones), BUT we should be expecting more Marines releases for the Salute.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 10:59:38
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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praetor24 wrote:Just called in FW's customer's support asking if there are any more Termies coming soon (for the Open Day and the Salute events). They told me that there won't be any (apart the Tartaros' ones), BUT we should be expecting more Marines releases for the Salute.
Nice one! Was hoping for some of the older termie variants but hopefully the other releases can sate my appetite!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 11:04:59
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Calculating Commissar
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Commander Cain wrote:I was under the impression that it was talking about TDA in general with the first paragraph...
True, it could be. I guess we'll never know for sure unless it gets included in a future book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/27 11:08:20
Subject: Forgeworld Tartaros pattern Terminator armour
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think they rock! But then, I really like the Contemptor Dreadnought and these remind me of them.
I'll have a unit of 10, I think.
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