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I dont like em. I think they look better porportioned than regular termies but they just scream Mini Contemptor. I dont really like the Contemptor.

TAKE MY MONEY FORGE WORLD, TAKE IT!!!!! >:3

damn those things look cute ^_^

The only thing out of place with these are the shoulder pads, (which match the style of shoulder pad the new Minotaur character has as well.)

They would look great with regular terminator shoulder pads, or even the "pre heresy style" ones that some of the 3rd party companies are making.

I actually kind of like the mini-contemptor look of these models. I'll keep up hope they'll make a couple other variants including the bulkier terminators from the heresy era I always imagined. I'm probably not going to pick them up unless they give us some weapon packs with th/ss, lc, assault cannons, cyclone missles etc.

whitedragon wrote:They would look great with regular terminator shoulder pads, or even the "pre heresy style" ones that some of the 3rd party companies are making.

"Please note that these models are not compatible with our range of Terminator Shoulder Pads."

Unfortunately, you'd probably need to custom make those.

Looks like crap. The only thing I actually like is the way the exhausts look. Poses are boring, the heads are boring, legs are boring.

And those shoulder pads....

They remind me of grey knights, cool... but not great.

I personally hate these.

I love the RT era inspired models forgeworld makes. I love a lot of stuff about forgeworld.

I REALLY want to like these. I really really do. But they don't feel like 40k models to me. My first thought on seeing these was they are made an outsider who doesn't know 40k very well. I don't like them in the slightest.

I wonder how compatible they are with the current terminator arms. Could be some cool conversions from this stuff.

I really like the weapons, helmet, arms and torso, also on the back, but I have to admit that the shoulderguards look out of place and the proportions could be better.

The more I look at these the more I don't like them.

Lets start with actual flaws before I get to my opinions.
The eye ridge (where a human's eyebrows would be) isn't centered. Thus giving the models the impression of smirking.
The fact that no living human could wear those suits due to the fact that your shoulders would have to come out of your ears. Terminators have always been bad at this but these kits take it to a T.
The eagle is REALLY badly sculpted. Every one of them the chest eagle is off center and very "globby" sculpted. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a greenstuff casting of another one.
The left and right shoulderpads are sculpted different. Notice the gap between the "Ball" and the shoulderplate is different on each side.
You only get 4 bolters. Yeah you're FORCED to use the Heavy Flamer they give you because you're not given another bolter arm. This means should I choose to field, oh I don't know, say cyclone missile launchers or just bolters... I'm buying 3 sets.

Opinions:
Poses. Why is one dancing? Why are others holding their arms at 45 degree angles? Did these guys to to the same school of thought that crazy stupid over the top poses are the only way to work (I'm looking at you new vampire ghoul things).
Backpack on a terminator?! REALLY? Nothing screams defensive armor like "Unplug this thing right here and I'll be useless."
Thigh plates. Why is it a separate piece? That implies movement. No human being can turn himself 90 degrees to the left or right, it just simply isn't done.

I really really REALLY want to like these but every time I go back to them I just find more and more problems. Are they fixable? Everything but the proportions probably, but its not really worth it for the amount of money forgeworld charges. I can only assume that some character will come out later wearing this armor that will look amazing and maybe I can get a few of him. Or maybe they'll resculpt then wehn the CC and other weapon options come out. But until that time consider this to be the only forgeworld marine release I simply do not like. To me they look to much like some companies attempt at "Genetically Engineered Future Space Knightly Soldiers"

Hmm, legs look like 1970's cybermen walking, and thats not fancy walking.

I don't get all the complaints. This is the first release that has given me pause or note to even come to Dakka and post in the past like 4-5 months!

These are not the pre-heresy terminators we all wanted, but let's face it, they are pretty cool and you can swap out the Mk IV helmets for crusader style helmets etc.. to make some very cool conversions.

We know based on precedent , FW is going to release multiple options and weapon packs for these guys. Also, you could convert normal terminator weapons to work, so no sense in whining about only a Heavy Flamer.

If any recent release would get me to spend money on FW/GW, it would be these bad boys. I can confirm however after a long conversation with a friend up in Nottingham that at present, there are NO plans in the near future to do any more variants of terminator armor.

If you want pre-heresy armor, it might be next year.


Cheers,


Will

I really wanted to like these...

We all knew FW would be doing Terminator armor variants at some point.

I was hoping for something closer to this though:



Still holding out hope for something along those lines to be released eventually.

I do like the Heavy Flamer variant though!

Alpharius wrote:I really wanted to like these...

We all knew FW would be doing Terminator armor variants at some point.

I was hoping for something closer to this though:



Still holding out hope for something along those lines to be released eventually.

I do like the Heavy Flamer variant though!

I agree, those would have been much cooler. Next year.

Alpharius wrote:I really wanted to like these...

We all knew FW would be doing Terminator armor variants at some point.

I was hoping for something closer to this though:



Still holding out hope for something along those lines to be released eventually.

I do like the Heavy Flamer variant though!

While not a fan of that style of Terminator armor, I'd kill for some over-under storm bolters.

Then Forgeworld can have my money next year,this year it still goes to Max-Mini

Eisenhorn wrote:Then Forgeworld can have my money next year,this year it still goes to Max-Mini

What does max-mini have to compare to FW? o.O

I think it's interesting. These could well be the most if-not-reviled-then-at-least-deeply-disappointed-in FW releases of all time. Variant Terminators should have been an easy slam dunk for sculptors who have already done a dozen kits of Space Marine variants.

Agreed!

A rare swing and miss/misjudge from FW...

I guess FW wanted to get away from the "legs with rebar" look and they did that well enough. I think I dislike the shoulders most because they deviate so much from the current norm. Still, I might get some to do as Sergants or such.

The hate and dislike has nothing to do with the models. It has to do with you all expecting a different release in terms of terminators. For most people anyways.

Agamemnon2 wrote:I think it's interesting. These could well be the most if-not-reviled-then-at-least-deeply-disappointed-in FW releases of all time. Variant Terminators should have been an easy slam dunk for sculptors who have already done a dozen kits of Space Marine variants.

You're right in a sense, I think.

The problem isn't that "Oh it's variant Terminators--yawn!".
The problem is that the revilement/disappointment is stemming from "It's variant Terminators--but they don't look like the artwork that I wanted them to look like!".

For the record?
I don't like them myself; but that's more because I don't really like the Maximus helmet to begin with and the idea of a Terminator with an exposed powerplant is silly.

Foda_Bett wrote:
I can only assume that some character will come out later wearing this armor that will look amazing and maybe I can get a few of him.

Well, the new minotaurs character is wearing this suit. Only problem is that it would cost 150 quid to make a 5-man squad of him!

Pretty bland over all

Kanluwen wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:I think it's interesting. These could well be the most if-not-reviled-then-at-least-deeply-disappointed-in FW releases of all time. Variant Terminators should have been an easy slam dunk for sculptors who have already done a dozen kits of Space Marine variants.

You're right in a sense, I think.

The problem isn't that "Oh it's variant Terminators--yawn!".
The problem is that the revilement/disappointment is stemming from "It's variant Terminators--but they don't look like the artwork that I wanted them to look like!".

For the record?
I don't like them myself; but that's more because I don't really like the Maximus helmet to begin with and the idea of a Terminator with an exposed powerplant is silly.

Not forgetting those of us who dislike the stance and posing of them. I mean look at this one. He's practically dancing - anyone fancy a jig?

IdentifyZero wrote:The hate and dislike has nothing to do with the models. It has to do with you all expecting a different release in terms of terminators. For most people anyways.

Uh... No it doesn't. It has to do with the ugly miniatures.

whitedragon wrote:The only thing out of place with these are the shoulder pads, (which match the style of shoulder pad the new Minotaur character has as well.)

They would look great with regular terminator shoulder pads, or even the "pre heresy style" ones that some of the 3rd party companies are making.

That is what I was going to say, get some max mini shoulder pads and mix and match and these have potential. They also look like they might be a nice base for true scale marines if the head is not attached.

I cant believe anyone was surprised by the 'mini-contemptor' look. Wasn't it obvious?

TACTICAL DREADNAUGHT ARMOR = scaled down dreadnaught

I will say that the biggest detractor for me is the tiny shoulderpads and the awful maximus helmet. A mkiii helmet would have been infinitely better.

I will stick with Maxmini shoulderpad and head swaps to get the older feel from my terminators. (Which can be viewed in the link in my signature)

SickSix wrote:I cant believe anyone was surprised by the 'mini-contemptor' look. Wasn't it obvious?

TACTICAL DREADNAUGHT ARMOR = scaled down dreadnaught

Note that Terminators have always been called that, yet regular termies don't look like washing machines on legs.

FWIW, these are kinda growing on me.