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Breotan wrote:I was going to say "pre-heresy" but they have the aquilla on them which was added to SM armor after the dust settled and most of chaos was driven into the Eye. Still, that stormbolter is definately "retro" enough to be called pre-heresy.

You don't allow for the possibility that the Aquila was added later?

PapaPiggy wrote:Any one else think forge world is kinda dropping the ball on their new models? I didn't much care for their new dread, Or these models. Maybe its just a personal opinion.

It's probably just personal opinion. I like the Contemptor Dreadnought and these. I hate the look of the Stormraven and the Dreadknight, but a lot of people seem to like them. I would buy the Stormraven if my Black Templars get it, though.

Right, I really don't know what to think on these new Termies, on one hand i really want to like them as they're new and different than what we have, and we all love something new in this hobby right? and good on them for giving them a mk4 reference, but they just don't scream buy me! I actually prefer the standard termies, they appear meaner and more armoured than these guys, the new ones have next to no details and actually look a bit boring not to mention the legs look like they haven't been finished yet, I do like the idea of different helmets and the high collar but overall I'm not going to buy anything that price that looks so ordinary considering the scope and workmanship FW have in the majority of their mini's which i love.

I'd have liked them to include an assault cannon with the kit.

lol mini contemptors

Cant say i care for these at all.

Not impressed. They just look like fat Marines, not Marines in advanced armor.

I dunno...if you squint a bit, you can see some similarities with the old mk.1 miniature. Kind of...



An updated version of Mk.1 power armor is what I really want to see from FW.

Maybe that's what they're trying. Maybe this is the 'modern' version of that type of Terminator armour.

I'll be buying a few (5-10) to put into a themed 500 pt list.

The only reason is that they look like little Contemptor Dreads. Other than that, they're Ok borderline Eww.

Uriels_Flame wrote:This is just as bad as trying to make a Star Wars pre-quel.

For those who may not have started with this company, they are re-releasing the stuff we used to play with, except 5x the price.

This fascination with pre-heresy stuff has worked for GW I guess. I'm not a fan of these bubble terminators or the bubble dreadnought either.

What old models do these look like at all? Also, old designs with modern aesthetics and competent sculpting isn't exactly the same as the old models. If you put a modern Forgeworld Marine next to the 80s GW lead sculpt, you'll laugh your ass off at how goofy and mutated the old one looks like.

PapaPiggy wrote:Any one else think forge world is kinda dropping the ball on their new models? I didn't much care for their new dread, Or these models. Maybe its just a personal opinion.

Not really, no. The Contemptor has been received very well. My only big qualm with this kit is that it comes with a heavy flamer instead of a more useful heavy weapon, like an assault cannon. I like it, but don't love it.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Maybe that's what they're trying. Maybe this is the 'modern' version of that type of Terminator armour.

I hope not. I'd hate to have to think so poorly of their abilities.

I'm a fan of them. Never like the "bulldog" helmets or the high shoulders of the standard ones and think these are definitely better. But then I like the Contemptor so it could just be that bias coming in.

They look like they have sticks shoved way up there power armor. i like the armor but the pose is stupid.seriously walking space men with stick up there you know what.

I really like the look of them, it looks a bit as if they tried to recreate terminator armour from scratch (lorewise).
I noticed if you look at the recently released Asterion Moloc model you can see he also wears a personalized version of the Tartaros Pattern.
Which isn't a big surprise when looking at the name of the new pattern and the look of Asterion's armour.

I... want to like these. But I hate pretty much everything about them.

Well, the helmets are cool. And the twin bolter's neat.

I think that these look pretty awesome! But I'll stick to converting GKs for my pre-heresy armour post-heresy Word Bearers.

Kaime wrote:Mini contemptor dreads

Thats exactly what I thought, and I love them. Between these, the new Minotaurs dudes, and the Decimator FW is gonna destroy my bank account.

several types and patterns were developed concurrently

There you are, then - the Tartaros pattern was developed at the same time as the Indomitus.

Seems like these are just truescale marines. I give it a pass.

I like them and they are priced the same as regular termies.

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:I think that these look pretty awesome! But I'll stick to converting GKs for my pre-heresy armour post-heresy Word Bearers.

Funnily enough I was thinking they would make for some awesome Grey Knights

kronk wrote:

PapaPiggy wrote:Any one else think forge world is kinda dropping the ball on their new models? I didn't much care for their new dread, Or these models. Maybe its just a personal opinion.

It's probably just personal opinion. I like the Contemptor Dreadnought and these. I hate the look of the Stormraven and the Dreadknight, but a lot of people seem to like them. I would buy the Stormraven if my Black Templars get it, though.

I completely agree. Love these and the Contemptor, hate the Storm Raven and Dreadknight.

I don't mind them if I was going to use them as some sort of Artificer Power Armor, but not Terminators.

They are far too sleek to fit with the mythos, and plus, their faulty anatomy is even more pronounced. Evidently when you get promoted enough to wear TDA, they cut your arms off and you run the suit by mind-impulse. Because especially with these models, there is no way their arms can fir into the arms of the suit.

There used to be a theory that the normal TDA armor is run off min-impulses, with the marine's arms crossed in front of his chest underneath the armor. These models could never do that.

Of course, if you are running a pre-Heresy army, you could always use these new Terminators as a robot maniple (squad)............

I like them as well as a variant but I did not have any pre-conceived notions as to what I wanted to see... either.

I like 'em and look forward to adding a squad(or 2 if they release a melee squad) to my Deathwing army.

I really like the look of these, just like I liked the contemptor dreads. Seeing as these only cost a couple of bucks more than a GW terminator squad, I'll most likely start a Deathwing army if they release a melee squad.

I like the way the heads/cowls look but the rest of the model is straight up boring as many others have said, regular terms look better.

I like them better than the Kubuki mask-looking, standard ones.

Really don't like these. Totally prefer GW's terminators. Thumbs down.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Maybe that's what they're trying. Maybe this is the 'modern' version of that type of Terminator armour.

I think its a bit of an amalgamation of the the three proto-terminator miniatures. It kinda has that torso, with sorta the shoulder pads of this guy:

and the helmet and rear side detail of the third one:

The legs arguably generic but also arguably similar in different ways to all three as well.

I think they're alright. Me I sculpted my own version of the that Mk1 terminator to use with the modern legs. So I have my own pre-heresy terminators already.